let me see that. many. been totally lost. and they need to. make. at the end of the middle age. you know the. many i used to say that the middle age was cage was exactly the opposite it was a. period . and there was a change of the. change in. the u.k. . but

it's interesting let me focus on this idea. because many historians. believe that. it was. more. for. what i hear you saying is that. there was a need that. you are essentially driven by the. question is that.

has been. the first issue that has been. the need to come back to come back. to the. bank in the public space of. a positive. technological change and the scene. for us. element has been. to the technological. exactly what and where i want to take this conversation forward because many critics of the e.u. have absolutely no issue with europe's past they recognize the enormous success of the european union you often say that reconciliation and peace are its greatest achievements most of the people agree with that they take issue with the ability of the e.u. as a system as a mechanism to move forward to be as efficient as it has to be in present times can

you really do the reunion without changing the way the decisions are made yes be done. deal and exactly what happens. in these middle age with these two elements of innovation. to element of innovation because the good the good in them and creation of the. plastic knology should have been closed in a close region the region and the. driving force of the society that i believe this time was a medicine and the second. for the new world order mr you know that it happened many times in history that something that once was a blessing suddenly becomes a curse everybody agrees that it's certain point of time the consensus model that the e.u. has served it well but now it takes china less time to set up a whole industry and for the european union to come up with a coherent policy don't you think that this mechanism of making decisions by

consensus in this day and age when everything changes by the minute is a bit outdated to say the least. thing that is a bit about that you know but if you compete with china if you if it takes you years just to come up with a policy. that democracy is a very critical system. the least of the ones that allow. to find. killing millions of people that has been the lesson that you know. because there's been a very difficult. and also be. making decisions they don't have to be. people . from the mental freedom. to decide to do. what has been promised by the. simple and they

know just the very beginning. to. a crucial democratic debate and they achieve nothing because they were. even to. the european union especially when it comes to technology and regulation of innovation i are saying the europeans have essentially a choice between either having a democracy or have. a logical society. i think that this is a very good question and this is the main challenge of today because the main of the. two days. and is challenge. is the. reduction in the medium term of the work force and the second is what is called the human. evolution so there could be

a summer following that perhaps tomorrow. will be delegated to human we became the executor and then just much more in the west that we have to find a new way to maintain the human in command of this technology in. your presidency specified three priorities sustainable development peace and culture and all of them strike me as something that europe does better than others it's good at sustainable development better than many other parts of the world it's good that culture is. peace if you want to if there. is a moving forward why do you focus on things that you. instead focus on something that its troubles. i think that the idea to look to the. is first of all i don't see that today europe is the one that is delivering better because for example china has not been a forefront of these ideas sustainability they were not to look to the situation of

climate in beijing just to mention one but today they understood it is the future and they are investing a lot in this so europe has been the inventor of this concept of being the main event. it has been approved by the. banding goes to. the can create. they created enormous business in producing these but other country have understood that these called cities working. the. others agenda of change that will be for fun is for enterprise for me. how exactly can a driver one of the reasons why china is such a leader in all those areas that you mention is because it has streamlined decision making europe again cannot compete. i keep going to the same question can you

deliver that when the win without changing the way the decisions are made in the european union and the way they're implemented i think that. we can. foster. some. mechanism and when we've seen that we can bypass in europe. to judge others because also someone a stall to the center moment it was the night of the. market in china with the change the system of china and finally we discover the market economy that is winning the world is another called very efficient as well in the raising standards for its people lifting millions out of poverty. in europe will never work and also in some part of the of the west europe when they were because the second prize the individual to the collectivity in their work in chinese working from one thousand

is a concept that seems the foundation of china but. is there any middle ground i mean we are talking not a major infringements on human rights or putting people into concentration. camps or simply talking about streamlining policy on technical issues. to compete with china which is not going to sit around and. look for example to the agreement the world today you're. of trade agreement or why the united states. members they negotiate. to delegate to negotiate to today you are. in front of. the want to negotiate. this one example the second example europe has been through does make a. unique case in the story. and to the.

security to buy many and even the chinese. just. example of enormous success. because just the few days ago your own country signed a memorandum of understanding with china and official. at the time. even agreed formally on the new policy. looks like your own country doesn't have much patience. someone can criticize this but you know. very difficult. that being council between

a european. national. playing is no different from the case of. a big. china is a by law to make. because there is definitely concern within the e.u. circles that. is striking out on its own here because it's. not the first country to sign that agreement but it's the largest one of the most important within the e.u. community. this is a challenge. i seem to. go into there's open to this. open these. laws. then this was a. road not all the. european going to china models so

there was these delegations if i didn't it was china camming to europe and to visit and we have also to remember there was a lot of debate the need at the time of the prime minister that can be accused to be an anti utopian as you would know for sure for the role that the u.s. played and continued to play when there was in the plot desist to open an agreement before opening the port of does to the chinese i seem to test to be managed into understood you know european framework and sound. have to be criticised. for my government has done because i'm not so being put into the bed with the parliament that is not open held a document such a debate and a public debate but in any case in the agreement the. deal framework with. relation with china is very open these betty is very clear so is an ongoing debate

i think that we have to find a way to cooperate with china well let me stop you right here we have to take a break now but back in just a few moments. let's learn. i'm greece of the fight. thank you for. the story that's right. slavery. in a world of big partisan. and conspiracies it's time. to

dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back to worlds apart with the president of the european economy and social committee mr i heard you say those who opposed the european project often do without offering anything concrete and yet if we look at the euro skeptics in your

own country they seem to be very raza loued about what they want and what they don't want they put. the supremacy on the national legislation they want to strengthen the tally and culture the national identity they don't want more immigration or more isn't that concrete enough i would look at the days also for me to temper the us saying that they eat to live without being part of the european union and that passed through the measure prize this can only give the notion of one of the last of the other one the was when there was a big good thing. looked like in ninety two again. and again the pounce and the list of why exactly thanks to you if there was you are this time that we doubt belonging to a perspective to go even more unification of more by and they get a glacial demonoid thirty italy will be even less than that that's also a matter of debate because there are some who would tell you the. italian gains of

membership have been much smaller than among other member states because if i'm not mistaken the average g.d.p. growth in italy since two thousand and one was only a quarter of one percent compared to the one point seven e.u. average can you really blame the italians for trying to look at the alternatives for example cooperating with china. i think that when just because. to make from the mental distinction the. fundamental argument for. relation beyond talking about the current government who has the support and the monday from the population i mean. it depends how you were to theo and the demand of people. as well. as of course a diligent team a seat because they were voted in the other were the opposition or the left as in

many european because that is that is a big transition as i was telling there is a problem with the media classify last. so that he is. blaming it on globalization isn't that also part of the problem isn't the e.u. structure. the way defines its priorities isn't that also part of the. blame for the rise of far right parties across europe not only. taking. people off neo liberal economic perspective how been in power for quite some time everyone has to take responsibility in this very challenging time and of course there is a demand in our society due to the be good the normal living and the fact that the past. economic and financial crisis yes we. are going much more coming back on the show at least six in the. but we came out that we

dealt a measure of these two options in any case one issue when i am saying that the many of them only say no and they yes. the magic example and the message they can buy. they say no for three they do not succeed. and you see that from one e r. no. or the. police and the. right wing parties are still despite. in power in italy. in poland. in france it is expected that there are going to consolidate our presence in. the may elections. what is it

in the policies of the. support. i am asking you to be critical. because you are ultimately in charge of. analyzing those trends and you have to take. not only people also people you associate yourself with. the question that was very clear a few years ago. keep keeping. all these not simply. for. the speeches they see that the finally. is not working is not even supported. by the voters and this is mainly important describing that they have. to make.

the most of the raising so much. as not being too. because it. has been in the deepest prizes for you because most of the class is the important part by europe's own decision joint forces of the united states. a decision taken by. some. consequence as. a member is that fair when you are not partaking. partaking in the decision but you all have to

suffer the consequences is it fair. for the. opening such of this year. and the clear strategy to build up. any mandate from the international law. and international law. to prevent this. not been the case in the last twenty five with many of the. many to be very resigned to international conflicts. we need. to invest a very clearly. as

a key to prevent the peace and also to negotiate. the. national. that they're making the three skip let me since our time is running out i still want to ask a question about value because the european union has long position. based on to about a decade ago many central asian countries for example kazakhstan uzbekistan even russia to some extent wanted to deepen their cooperation economic cooperation with the european union but they were told that you know we care a lot about values. you have to build your democracies first then the economic cooperation will depend they all turn to china helping china rise helping themselves certainly do you think it was a smart decision putting value of economic opportunities because china clearly have

seized on those economic opportunities something some would say at the expense of the european union. do you want. to leave that is exactly what. you were was accused. conditionality to the aid that because you cannot me. to say there is no countries being cut off the investment of. the first european union member state that most of them are saying that there's not been a mistake in the time because they need more money with conditionality they look china as an opportunity but today they. are. not. but they want to be. sure you are up in the your puter will be fair enough to understand that these new challenge to build up

a new joint i seem to some mistake it to be very honest has been done in a certain point not only for the economic issue and values but for the international geopolitics that has come back a very strong international space between europe and russia not only with the you also with europe and keep. it in europe and the united states. in this case is much more the responsibility of united states i think if i can say they did the acting leaders you would decide. that europe is becoming the worst enemy if united states senator kerry ask you one more question about value because it's very interesting to me you've been very supportive of president call build a new european. would say that you have to kind of your own house in order before embarking on such grandiose plans when it comes to values what do you make.

that wasn't in. keeping with the. displeasure in the middle class from my point of view big mistake of managing a major decision about taxation on them specifically asking about. you when you have people that. destroying everything on the other hand also have the use of explosive grenades and. mains and kills people we are not seeing that even in authoritarian societies. not seen in the. at least ten fatalities several thousand. and people losing eyes people losing their limbs. you know. to defend that it's fake news i mean.

those protestors have been have a hand that they can defend inside such a violent explosion. that they are very proud of the police is managing this to me has not been the case in general. twenty years ago where the south thing is up and i want to just exactly do to praise the italian police force i'm asking about the french police force because it's a very important question when you're debating values whenever something some street action happens in other countries authoritarian countries in the european book there is always a very harsh criticism on any use of the police but here we are not hearing that forthright. as we have different sorts of information. not. because when there is of course there are also people enjoy them. but they are not so if you are not

a little concerned about how. we. need to be as we had in the past for example you need or at the european level to space to put in just a. decision that we had over the rules and not the least but i think. that we have also said that. that it should be overweight aided to prevent. the security forces to work with. some lesson from the. value. there it's been pleasure talking to you thank you very much and courage of yours to keep this conversation going on our social media pages and hope to see you again same place same time here on

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