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hello and welcome to cross talk for all things are considered i'm peter lavelle this year the nato alliance is seventy years old is it time now to shut down this cold war relic also liberal media can say sorry and choke on russia again. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest in moscow he's a political analyst we spoke meek international and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor of politics first magazine all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate marcus i. i want to talk about nato and i'm going to use the words of

nato from the nato secretary general stoltenberg and he addressed congress last week it was a real spectacle and i'm going to ask you and demon to reflect upon it so let's go to this. we do all this not to provoke a calm flicked but to prevent complet and to preserve peace not to fight but to deter not to attack but to defend how do we act or that markets go ahead. well nato is an offensive criminal and degenerates organization that is the root cause today of instability in the poconos and in eastern europe in essence way finds in eight hundred you find instability and societal degeneration the americans have used nato you over the last thirty also years to achieve global dominance and they continue to use nato not just to maintain their global

dominance but to end hearts that global dominance and who has nato works with over the last three decades or so in order to achieve the objectives set before it i am erica well nato has worked with organized crime extremists and terrorists they bombed nato bombed serbia for seventy eight days in support of the cost of the so-called kosovo liberation army which was and remains today in a difference manifestation one of the largest and deadliest organized crime networks in the well it's indeed cost a very today is a major international hop the whole gun drug and human trafficking in libya nato bombed libya in support of al qaeda and today libya is a failed state were slaves of libyan territory controlled by if al qaida and nicest

and also paid in tripoli today there are human slave markets again cag absolutely and so and marcus and we also had the head of nato speaking to congress specifically focusing in on russian let me go to deman here again quoting sultan berg there is no contradiction between their friends and dialogue we do not want to isolate russia we strive for a better relationship with russia. but even without a relationship we still need to manage a difficult one how do you react to that first record into the stock or peace institute stock only shoot on the issues of peace russia's defense spending is twenty seven percent of the defense spending of nato was european allies and the spain given if you will put in the united states what would be the percentage let's say ten to states that the united states spends i guess about fourteen times more

than russia right so who is it going to again whom you know there was no president in history and not even alexander the great at the act an army that would be at least eighteen times bigger rate second second what are the plans of nato it's not russia sending its ships through the shores of france or britain and when three russian ships recently went to the north sea you remember they u.k. defense secretary said that we will not tolerate any aggression you know one of these ships or can seize open seas it's hundreds of miles from from the u.k. and now we have a group of nato ships twenty ships and two thousand two hundred servicemen and three in our desks. i dare say even a crane isn't a member of nato get about the ukraine is even more billy drawn towards russia than nato and businesses need to have their this is something that people in the west

did not notice that the ukrainian president poroshenko said he is going to point missiles at mosque or that he is going to redevelop there all. potential that ukraine had and this would create at all to a new situation very tense but a death is is a legend for russia. one fifty percent of russia's twenty first century a right a square sickle twentieth century writers are from a desert this is a russian speaking seaport in the south of ukraine and you have twinky need two ships and three in it. preparing for military exercise and would have missed the stoltenberg and are going to do it if they took his argument always is that they're projecting stability is projecting stability but they are there they have a very clear way of project and stability they promise to force the way for ukrainian ships to their hours of sea despite russia's religio interest as nato has

in that sea hostile sea. it's not a deep sea you know all these small vessels can enter it actually there is a breach connecting the cranium to the rest of russia so the nato ships if they want to force their way from from there they will have to pass under the bridge you know we've been very very ridges as a geopolitical. ages to russia about the reason why it was built is very simple the ukrainian government several times allowed electricity to be caught crania despite a contract between crimea and ukraine on you know delivered an addict research into crimea in the soviet times the whole energy system was unified so these are just two examples that are the examples in the let me let me go back to certain words here and let me go back to london your markers are going to continue with the address the very unusual address for a nato head to give to a joint session of congress here we do not want in arms race we do not want

a new cold war but we must not be naive an agreement that is only respected by one side will not keep us safe and i find that really remarkable here i mean who's acting unilateral in these cases here go ahead in london. yes absolutely it is nato that has extended to russia's western borders it is a nato that is attempting to place a cordon sanitaire on lushes western borders i don't see a russian led military alliance on america's borders indeed the only recently some russian soldiers arrived in venezuela at the request of the venezuelan government and look at the response of washington to that developments but it's perfectly acceptable in the minds of american policy makers for nato to be on russia's western borders for there to be an american missile system in romania and

poland which is aimed at russia's strategic nucular to terence and of course ukraine is the missing piece in the jigsaw for america because ever since the one nine hundred ninety s. the americans have been lusting after ukraine shoot ukraine joining nato then of course russia will be and circles on its western borders and nato aircraft operate in for ukraine could reach moscow in twenty twenty five minutes so that is a very very explicit five five minutes medical oh you know it's just there i feel condor thought of while miles away from waffle of missile say it would take them about three minutes so this is the reason why russia said it was a rather line nato membership for ukraine and this is precisely the reason why they agreed and resonator shank leaning toward it if they're going to take lucia the argument nato always makes is that these are sovereign countries and they have the right to be in military alliances but if the flipside of that is looking at it from

russia's point of view is that your expansion is creating instability and a threat to our security they never look at the how the the country that is being targeted how they see things they used to do that during the cold war don't do it anymore. well if if their sole concern to the country is being free to choose their alliances why is the united states congress working on the war on preventing the venezuelan threat to the united states just because a few russian servicemen arrived. legally they have diplomatic relations they are both members of the united nations american so has the right to know how you can servicemen are in the night they are in ukraine on bases they trained the ukrainian troops which destroy the russian speaking population of dollars in the east of ukraine basically the reason why they are getting the situation is so dangerous is because president poroshenko pushed it in the parliament they included the

aspiration to join nato in ukrainian in the ukrainian constitution so even if bush loses the election the threat will we have to keep in mind that public opinion polls before the coup in two thousand and fourteen the public was against nato membership but let me go back to mark i'm going to ask the program would also. go back to marcus in london we're missing a key element here and i think you'll get it when i'm again quoting the secretary general and our desires for a peaceful world is simply not enough we must act and invest invest to make it so nato allies must spend more on defense well give me a drumroll that's what it's all about the military industrial complex you've got to bring them to the trough to feed go ahead in london. yes well anyone can talk about having a peaceful world indeed at all hitler spoke about having a peaceful welds but of course the kind of peaceful well that nato and of course

america is talking about is a well world in which america is dominant and russia is subsurface of course but the americans they would love relish the opportunity to go back to the nine hundred ninety s. when russia that's a pro western presence and russia was on its knees and when the and when nato talks about respects in the suffering decisions of government decisions of so great governments well they didn't respect president yet a covert sees decision in late two thousand and four that seemed to turn economically to russia because what did they do a a few months after that they carried out secure against president let it go get so that proclamations to respect democracy in their decisions or sovereign governments aren't worth the paper they're written on kero we're going to go to a short break in a second here and when we get back we're going to talk about russia gate and its implications and how the media cannot say sorry i want to thank marcus papadopoulos of money for joining us we're going to go to

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ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see of. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered on peter lavelle remind who we're discussing some real news. and now to athens where we have an exclusive for he is the director and writer for

the duran dot com from welcome to the program alex let's talk about the how the media can say sorry and is essentially choking every single day and every succeeding day after the report was filed and we got the four page summary from attorney general barr i mean it's it's pathetic comes to mind it's sad and it's dangerous because you have a liberal media that is in denial and in a deep deep denial and they keep continue to fight back with no results go ahead alex yeah this is this is peter this is the worst election hangover hangover defeat in history i mean we're three years now two years from the election three years of this of this trump russia collusion hoax and that's what it is it's a hoax it was a hoax from the beginning it's been proven a hoax. bar specifically says there was no colu should he is not recommending that mueller is not recommending any more indictments it's over ok

release the three four hundred pages fied no one no one in their right mind expects to see anything different i'm sure the mainstream media the democrats won that pick and they'll fight a few items to keep this narrative going just a little bit longer but peter they're running on fumes at this point and we all. so what happened that day after bar released his summary what happened to the ratings of rachel bad of c.n.n. of m s n b c tucker carlson and his one hour show got more viewers than all of c.n.n. combined that means a significant amount of people mostly i would guess independent voters who are buying into this narrative for two three years that trump colluded with russia check out rachel maddow show that they checked out of c.n.n. of cuomo of don lemon of brian stelter they checked out which shows that that this hoax is not believed anymore and my guess is not believed by

a large chunk of independent voters and that benefits trump ok demon here but you know we had we had c.n.n. come out in public we can graduate itself is still for its coverage or and then we have people surprises that came out. and praised journalists for their investigation of collusion but there's no collusion so i suppose those prices should be returned i think that we should i should quote how and why they split it's a price was handed fifteen thousand dollars how it was candid to go into this for the new york times and the washington post it was headed for deeply sourced relend distillery important coverage in the public interest the dramatic going to further the nation's understanding of russian interference in the two thousand and sixteen presidential election and deeds connections to the trump can be so this is the moment you know its connections to the drama contain if i were the american public

i would demonic my fifteen thousand dollars back and and these people they should pay more but you know we russians we don't have this expression but they stole the dime. of the euro with the stories that as speed of unborn right to rights in the american consumer. conflated the indictment and the guilty verdict breached all rules that would go on that is that you know basically pushing they did tauriel a gender on the viewer and the redus and they think these people who got the price they should be named now they are mega kind of a man go back i'm out of so mark months a d. and they're also in hold on long term harm and neck ashima are them and to us and greg miller we want our money back home he said. the american public we saw glenn greenwald talk with junk you get over

a young turks here it's a fascinating discussion they're both very intelligent guys both media media savvy as well here but glenn greenwald took them to the cleaners. i'm not i awaited him on its own program go ahead alex yeah and it's one thing to point out peter that they're both very anti trust there with you know standing on the liberal left side of things but greenwald was right from the beginning peter this show you are right we were right from the very beginning it doesn't take a genius to figure out that trump is not it agent of russia or of putin i mean it's when you step back and you say it a couple of times you realize just how ridiculous and how absolutely stupid the whole premise is but people bought into it and now you see people that like chink euchre he's trying to move the goalposts a little so you know now they start to say it's not so much that we believed it when there was collusion or maybe not even obstruction but now we've got to look into his finances you know trump did business dealings with russia but but alex

there's a caviar there they did look into the business connections of paul man of ford ok so they didn't do that the primary target of this investigation they did didn't do that would trump i mean that is moving the goalpost. yet it's an absolutely ridiculous premise to believe that mueller's going to investigate all the finances of palm out of fort who was working by the way we said it a thousand times with ukraine and be have exactly half of the e.u. and on behalf of obama to move ukraine away from russia he was not working with russia and with putin but it beggars belief to think that they're going to best to get all the finances of matter fort but trust finances we're just going to you know not touch those just leave them as they are ok but even you what you got the instant reaction was is that there was a cover up going on a cover up and a g. barr must be involved in it knew or might be involved i mean but this is a symptom of just what is wrong with the media right now because the media they

want a conclusion they don't work towards a conclusion using evidence this is been a such an abrogation of responsibility this is pure malpractise and it has a price because as christopher was pointing out your faith in the media is being destroyed has been destroyed well basically talk about the color of started immediately we had to rachel maddow and we had the new york times what was there in utah audio no collusion no exoneration so they kept saying that there was no exaggeration knowing the ration they kept at taken but what i'm concerned about in this whole story there are two things first you know these are not in berger continued for two years it's continuing to rock to it's contended seventeen that you're rocking not in burger as we know continued for about a year in

a year after the american invasion in two thousand and four the new york times published a kind of quake there was no weapons of mass destruction but still the world is better without saddam hussein you know all that garbage this is the first thing the second thin is. it is. how the whole story can be built on nothing you know. nothing you just repeat certain awards without any evidence and you get put it surprise you know that. i mean it's something you and i have talked about almost on a daily basis is that the other shoe to drop here and i think by continuing this nonsense of there must be a cover up bar is in on it blah blah blah all this hot air like we've heard for two and a half years but there are and should be investigations into main justice the f.b.i. and even the cia and we all know the names ok and the way the media is acting as if

that never never happened never should be looked into this is another different kind of coverup different kind of hoax conspiracy go ahead in athens. yeah i agree with that i think there are now enough dots to connect so that there are people that we know that did commit real crimes unfortunately for the mainstream media and for the democrats those crimes are not around trump or trump's campaign and we are starting to see some investigation for some people you have you know people like john solomon sarah carter matt taibbi glenn greenwald these are people who will i think connect some dots of course you have bart now who is a much better a.g. than sessions ever was and i think he's going to i think he will pursue some things will he get the big fish no i don't think so i think there's going to be some people whether you start with hillary clinton who did collude to rip off bernie sanders from the primary election. a do you think that we will ever get the full

story of the origins of the darcy i mean the details of it here because we have a lot of suppositions a lot of claims coming in there's some contradictory suppositions out there but if we can get to the origins of the dossier then we get to the origins of the hoax go ahead alex i don't know i think i think we kind of know that the dicey originated with brennan i think we know that mccain yeah i make my role but we don't know that there but but their knowledge of its lack of authoring to city bringing it to a pfizer court because that's really the ground zero of all of this here and then we will be culpability people have lied lack of candor that is a felony and should be prosecuted go ahead alex i think the most right i think. very much like iraq and w m d's i think we'll have maybe some missions a year or two down the line but i don't think we're ever going to get the full truth i don't think we're going to have someone come out and say that know what this was a pure work of fiction this entire was completely false we haven't even seen

christopher steele peter have you ever seen christopher steele appear appear on c.n.n. or i miss him b c or fox news anywhere i haven't you know he's that make character i've never seen a president so hated more than nixon i remember that i was young but i do remember it and so the people that hate this president the most is given him the greatest reelection gift conceivable yes well there is a conspiracy theory in russia that the whole thing was actually start a by secret trump supporters who decided to me the democrats will quite complete idiots by there is also another conspiracy theory you know let me quote from people on board in the american conservative maddow anyone with a russian saw the name had ties to putin her connections to russian intelligence so the popular joke in russia is that. you know rachel maddow is grandfather's so and was mad so she's connected to the russian prime minister medvedev and that means

she's in the sound or russian intelligence and then provides us with more reasons to publish the mueller report and see what is behind the scenes of our last thirty seconds go ahead peter i think the make a clue shit what it's all said and for everyone that's watching this is that much of the mainstream media not all of the media but much of it lies they lied about w m d's they lied about libya they lied about syria they're lying right now about venezuela and ukraine they lied about this mueller report let's not forget was it not bright stelter peter i think six months ago yes i was saying he is going to be the next president of the united states. i want to point out before we leave i want to point out that the duran is doing a great job in covering these stories that iran has always been right many thanks to my guests here in moscow athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time remember.

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