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and ireland it is renegade. and welcome to cross talk for all things are considered. this year the nato alliance is seventy years old is it time now to shut down this cold war relic also liberal media can say sorry and choke on russia gate. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest in moscow he's a political analyst with international and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor of politics first magazine or a gentleman cross talk rules and a. that means you can jump in anytime you want and

i always appreciate marcus i want to talk about nato and i'm going to use the words of nato from the nato secretary general stoltenberg and he addressed congress last week it was a real spectacle and i'm going to ask you and deem it to reflect upon it so let's go to this. we do all this not to provoke a conflict but to prevent complet and to preserve peace not to fight but to deter not to attack but to defend how do we act to that markets go ahead. well nato is an offensive criminal and degenerate organization that is the root cause today of instability in the poconos and in eastern europe in essence way finds in eight hundred you find instability and societal degeneration the americans have used nato you over the last thirty also years to achieve global

dominance and they continue to use nato not just to maintain their global dominance of the two in the hearts the global dominance and who has nato works with over the last three decades or so in order to achieve the objectives set before it by america well nato has worked with organized crime extremists and terrorists they bombed nato bombed serbia for seventy eight days in support of the cause of the so-called kosovo liberation army which was and remains today in a difference manifestation one of the largest and deadliest organized crime networks in the world's indeed cost a very today is a major international hub the whole gun drug and human trafficking in libya nato bombed libya in support of al qaeda and today libya is

a failed state were slaves of libyan territory controlled by if al qaida and i says and also paid in tripoli today there are human slave markets again cag absolutely and so and marcus and we also had the head of nato speaking to congress specifically focusing in on russian let me go to deman here again quoting sultan berg there is no contradiction between their friends and dialogue we do not want to isolate russia we strive for a better relationship with right. but even without a relationship we still need to manage a difficult one how do you react to that first record into the stock or peace institute stock only shoot on the issues of peace russia's defense spending is twenty seven percent of the defense spending of nato was european allies and the spain given if you will put in the united states what would be the percentage of the intensest states that the united states spends i guess about fourteen times

more than russia right so who is it going to again whom you know there was no president in history and not even alexander the great at the act an army that would be at least eighteen times bigger rate second second what are the plans of nato it's not russia sending its ships to the shores of france or britain and when three russian ships recently went to the north sea you remember the u.k. defense secretary said that we will not tolerate any aggression you know one of the issues or i can seize it's open seas it's hundreds of miles from from the u.k. and now we have a group of nato ships going to ship said two thousand two hundred servicemen and three in our death. i dare say even a crane isn't a member of nato the ukraine is even more believe drawn towards russia than nato

and businesses need to have their this is something that people in the west did not notice that the ukrainian president poroshenko said he is going to point missiles at mosque or that he is going to redevelop there all. potential that ukraine had and this would create a totally new situation very tense but a deficit is is a legend for russia. one fifty percent of russia's twenty first century a right a square sickle twentieth century writers are from a despot this is a russian speaking in seaport in the south of ukraine and you have twinky need two ships and three in it preparing for military exercise and would have missed the stoltenberg and all you need to if they chose argument always is that they're projecting stability is projecting stability they'd. have a very tricky way of project instability they promise to force the way for ukrainian ships to the hours of c.

despite russia's religious interest as nato has in that scene see. it's not a deep sea you know all these small vessels can enter it actually there is a breach connect in crimea to the rest of russia so the nato ships if they want to force their way from from there they will have to pass under the bridge you know we've been very very ridges and it's a geopolitical ages to russia but the reason why it was built is very simple the ukrainian government several times allowed electricity to be caught crania despite a contract between crimea and ukraine on you know deliver an electricity to crimea in the soviet times the whole energy system was unified so these are just two examples of the other examples in the lens of the me let me go back to certain words here and. we go back to london here marcus i'm going to continue with the address the very unusual address for a nato head to give to

a joint session of congress here we do not want an arms race we do not want a new cold war but we must not be naive an agreement that is only respected by one side will not keep us safe and i find that really remarkable here i mean who's acting unilateral in these cases here go ahead in london. yes absolutely it is nato that has extended to russia's western borders it is nato its that is attempting to place a cordon sanitaire on lushes western borders i don't see a russian led military alliance on america's borders indeed the only recently some russian soldiers arrived in venezuela at the request of the venezuelan government and look at the response of washington to that developments but it's perfectly acceptable in the minds of american policy for nato to be on russia's western

borders for there to be an american missile system in romania and the poland which is aimed at russia's strategic nuclear deterrent and of course ukraine is the missing piece in the jigsaw for america because ever since the one nine hundred ninety s. the americans have been lusting after ukraine shoot ukraine joining nato then of course russia will be and circles on its western borders and nato aircraft operate in for ukraine could reach moscow in twenty twenty five minutes so that is a very very explicit five five minutes medical oh you know it's just there i feel hundreds of miles away from offical me so i will say it would take them about three minutes so this is the reason why russia said it was a rather line nato membership for ukraine and this is precisely the reason why they agreed and president are shankly toward it if they're going to take lucia the argument nato always makes is that these are sovereign countries and they have the

right to be in military alliances but if the flipside of that is looking at it from russia's point of view is that your expansion is creating instability and a threat to our security they never look at the how the the country that is being targeted how they see things they used to do that during the cold war don't do it anymore. well if if their sole concern to the country is being free to choose their alliances why is the united states congress working on a war on preventing the venezuelan threat to the united states just because a few russian servicemen arrived. legally they have diplomatic relation they are both members of the united nations i mean you can say has the right to american servicemen are in the night they are in ukraine on bases they train the ukrainian troops which destroy the russian speaking population of dollars in the east of ukraine basically the reason why they are korean situation is so dangerous is

because president poroshenko pushed it in the parliament they included the aspiration to join nato in ukrainian in the ukrainian constitution so even if bush loses the election the threat will we have to keep in mind that public opinion polls before the coup in two thousand and fourteen the public was against nato membership but let me go back to mark i'm going to ask the program but also. go back to marcus in london we're missing a key element here and i think you'll get it when i'm again quoting the secretary general and our desires for a peaceful world is simply not enough we must act and invest invest to make it so nato allies must spend more on defense well give me a drumroll that's what it's all about the military industrial complex you've got to bring them to the trough to feed go ahead in london. yes well anyone can talk about has been a peaceful world indeed at all hitler spoke about having

a peaceful well it's but of course the kind of peaceful well that night and of course america is talking about is a well world in which america is dominance and russia is subservience of course to the americans they would love relish the opportunity to go back to the nine hundred ninety s. when russia that's a pro western presence and russia was on its knees and when the round when nato talks about respects and the suffering decisions of government decisions of so great governments well they didn't respect president yet to close its decision in late two thousand and four that seemed to turn economically to russia because what did they do a a few months after that they carried out secure against president yet because it's so that proclamations to respect democracy and the decisions or sovereign governments on worth the paper they're written on care what we're going to go to a short break in a second here when we get back we're going to talk about russia gate and its implications and how the media cannot say sorry i want to thank marcus papadopoulos

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welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered on peter lavelle remind you we're discussing some real news. and now to athens where we have exclusive for he is the director and writer for the duran dot com welcome to the program alex let's talk about the how the media can say sorry and is essentially choking every single day and every succeeding day out of the report was filed and we got the four page summary from attorney general barr i mean it's it's pathetic comes to mind it's sad and it's dangerous because you have a liberal media that is in denial and in a deep deep denial and they keep continue to fight back with no results go ahead

alex. yeah this is this is peter this is the worst election hangover the hangover defeat in history i mean we're three years now two years from the election three years of this of this trump russia collusion hoax and that's what it is it's a hoax it was a hoax from the beginning it's been proven a hoax. barr specifically says there was no collusion he is not recommending that mueller is not recommending any more indictments it's over ok release the three four hundred pages fine no one no one in their right mind expects to see anything different i'm sure the mainstream media the democrats will nit pick and they'll fight a few items to keep this narrative going just a little bit longer but peter they're running on fumes at this point and we all saw what happened that day after barr released his summary what happened to the ratings of rachel bad of c.n.n. of them as n.b.c. tucker carlson and his one hour show got more viewers than all of c.n.n.

come bite that means a significant amount of people mostly i would guess independent voters who are buying into this narrative for two three years that trump colluded with russia checked out of rachel maddow show that they checked out of c.n.n. of cuomo of don lemon of brian stelter they checked out which shows that that this hoax is not believed anymore and my guess is not believed by a large chunk of independent voters and that benefits trump ok demon here but you know we had we had c.n.n. come out in public we can graduate himself his self for its coverage and then we have people surprises that came out. and praised journalists for their investigation of losing in but there's no collusion so i suppose those prices should be returned i think that we should gold how and why they spun it some price

was handed fifteen thousand dollars how it was tended to go on this for the new york times and the washington post it was headed for deeply sourced relend distillery important coverage in the public interest the dramatic going to food the nation's understanding of russian interference in the bill. and sixteen presidential election and deeds connections to the trump can be so this is the moment you know it's connections to the trump contain if i were the american public i would be a mom to my fifteen thousand dollars back and and these people they should pay more you know we russians we don't have this expression but they store with a dime of millions of the euro with the stories that speak of unborn right to rights in the american conservative conflated the indictment and the guilty verdict breached all rules of jauntily as you know basically pushing they did doria way gender on the viewer and the redus and they think these people who got the prize

they should be named now they are mega of a man go back i'm out of so mark months a d. and they're also in hold'em on tom humber and nec ashima are them and to us and greg miller we want our money back from these. americans or we saw glenn greenwald talk with junk ugur over at young turks here it's a fascinating discussion they're both very intelligent guys both media media savvy as well here but glenn greenwald took them to the cleaners. i'm not i awaited him on it's own program go ahead alex yeah and it's one thing to point out peter that they're both very anti trust there with you know standing on the liberal left side of things but greenwald was right from the beginning peter this show you are right we were right from the very beginning it doesn't take a genius to figure out that trump is not

a agent of russia or putin i mean it's when you step back and you say it a couple of times you realize just how ridiculous and how absolutely stupid the whole premise is but people bought into it and now you see people that like chink euchre he's trying to move the goalposts a little so you know now they start to say. it's not so much that we believed it when there was collusion or maybe not even obstruction but now we've got to look into his finances you know trump did business dealings with russia but it's but but alex there's a caviar there they did look into the business connections of paul man of ford ok so they didn't do that their primary target of this investigation they did didn't do that would trump i mean that is moving the goalpost yet it's an absolutely ridiculous premise to believe that mueller is going to investigate all the finances of paul man of fort who was working by the way we said it a thousand times with you grade b. have exacted behalf of the e.u. and on behalf of obama to move ukraine away from russia he was not working with

russia and with putin but it beggars belief to think that there could investigate all the finances of matta fort but trust finances we're just going to you know not touch those just leave them as they are ok but even you what you got the instant reaction was is that there's a cover up going on to cover up and a.g. barr must be involved in it might be involved i mean but this is a symptom of just what is wrong with the media right now because the media they want a conclusion they don't work towards a conclusion using evidence this is been a such an abrogation of responsibility this is pure malpractise and it has a price because as christopher was pointing out here the faith in the media is being destroyed and has been destroyed well basically talk about the color of started immediately we've had to rachel maddow and we've had the new york times what was there in to tory oh no collusion no exoneration so they kept saying

that there was no exaggeration noise in the ration they kept at taken trump but what i'm concerned about in this whole story there are two things first you know these are not in burger continued for two we hears. it's continuing to rock and it's contended seventeen that you're rocking not in berga as we know continued for about a year in a year after the american invasion in two thousand for the new york times published a kind of sound like there was no weapons of mass destruction but still the world is better without saddam hussein you know all that garbage this is the first thing the second thin is just hollow the whole story can be built on nothing you know. nothing you just repeat certain awards without any evidence and you get put it surprise you know that. i mean something you and i have talked

about almost on a daily basis is that the other shoe to drop here and i think by continuing this nonsense of there must be a cover up bar is in on it blah blah blah all this hot air like we've heard for two and a half years but there are and should be investigations into main justice the f.b.i. and even the cia and we all know the names ok and the way the media is acting as if that never never happened and never should be looked into this is another different kind of coverup different kind of hoax conspiracy go ahead in athens. yeah i agree with that i think there are now dots to connect so that there are people that we know that did commit real crimes unfortunately for the mainstream media and for the democrats those crimes are not around trump or trump's campaign and we are starting to see some investigation for some people you have you know people like john solomin sarah carter matt taibbi glenn greenwald these are people who will i think

connect some dots of course you have bart now who is a much better a.g. than sessions ever was and i think he's going to i think he will pursue some things will he get the big fish no i don't think so i think there's going to be some people whether you start with hillary clinton who did collude to rip off bernie sanders from the primary election. a do you think that we will ever get the full story of the origins of the dasi i mean the details of it here because we have a lot of suppositions a lot of claims come in there's some contradictory suppositions out there but if we can get to the origins of the dossier then we get the origins of the hoax go ahead alex i don't know i think i think we kind of know that the dicey originated with brennan and i think we know that mccain had make them grow but we don't know that they're above that but their knowledge of its lack of othen to city bringing it to a pfizer court because that's really the ground zero of all of this here and then

we'll be culpability people have lied lack of candor that is a felony and should be prosecuted go ahead alex i think the most right i think. very much like iraq and w m d's i think we'll have maybe some missions a year or two down the line but i don't think we're ever going to get the full truth i think we're going to somewhat come out you know what this was a pure work of fiction this entire dasi it was completely false we haven't even seen christopher steele peter have you ever seen christopher steele appear appear on c.n.n. or i miss him b c or fox news anywhere i haven't you know he might make character i've never seen a president so hated more than nixon i remember that i was young but i do remember it and so the people that hate this president the most is given him the greatest reelection gift conceivable yes well there is a conspiracy theory in russia that the whole thing was actually start a by secret trump supporters who decided to me the democrats will quite complete

idiots by there is also another conspiracy theory you know let me quote from people on board in the american conservative. anyone with a russian so name has ties to putin and her connections to russian intelligence so the popular joke in russia is that. you know rachel maddow is grandfather so and was mad mad though so she's connected to the russian prime minister medvedev and that means she's in the center or of russian intelligence and then provides us with more reasons to publish the mueller report and see what is behind the scenes of our last thirty seconds go ahead peter i think to make a clue shit what it's all said and for everyone that's watching this is that much of the mainstream media not all of the media but much of it lies they lied about w m d's they lied about libya they lied about syria they're lying right now about venezuela and ukraine they lie about this mueller report let's not forget was it

not bright stelter peter i think six months ago yes i was saying he is going to be the next president of the united states. i want to point out before we leave i want to point out that the duran is doing a great job in covering these stories in iran has always been right many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here see you next time and remember. i think more doogan is an outstanding person because he took on the most powerful agency in twenty four and you'll be to stay if you look at some of the book one.

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