my opinion is not a justification for an american invasion. after times are we going underground as judges rule on u.k. involvement in massacres in yemen and the u.k. backed israeli army prepares for elections after the detention of the younger brother of palestinian icon head to me days after she appeared on this show coming up will british think this was a serious violation of international humanitarian law and stop theresa may allowing the export of british bombs we hear the latest in the aftermath of sunday south africa and the girls elementary school in yemen. just another tool in the

colonialists arsenal we dig up the evidence of an advance civilization last time with bestselling journalist and author graham hancock all of them all coming up in today's going underground but first today is the anniversary of the signing of the good friday agreement and the thirty eighth anniversary of the election to the palace of westminster of the irish hunger strike of bobby sands. and blogger. who the candidate will be sans was elected to westminster while on a hunger strike after arrest in detention by margaret thatcher security forces he wanted those supporting irish unity to be recognised as political prisoners the census name would become synonymous with british imperialism from belfast to have on a test run to washington we interrupt our regular program schedule to bring you the following special report from a.b.c. news washington ted koppel. the twenty seven year old member of the irish

republican army who went on a protest hunger strike sixty six days ago as well what was then called the political wing of. shin fein. overbrook since we caught up with vice president. about the significance of history. three of the signing of the good friday agreement you and your leader in leading a lot of british politicians do you think british politicians have a historic appreciation of the troubles and mary were gone old said something about the sexual state for northern ireland do you think they do i believe that never been never will be i believe that whenever it was the question of the good friday agreement was never part and parcel of anybody's consideration. the british politicians have the people in the peace process that's why we're here because we

start. we need to protect the good friday agreement a lot of people here haven't even ran to the good friday agreement ministers that had responsibility for the situation and have not read the good friday agreement so we need to be the voice and we'll continue to do that and challenge the words required do you think they know there's a certain irony you know if you believe that this week is the anniversary of the signing of the agreement. i don't think that they know what is i don't think they know what's in the best interest of people in the north and i think that whenever they can say practice they didn't take into consideration. we have a we have a good friday agreement and. it's also thirty eight years on tuesday of the election of bobby sands to this building what do you think the legacy it will be sans is in two thousand and nineteen but i think that i think that whenever. we have to continue to have to continue to drive forward we have to continue to.

everybody. we're committed to achieve and we need to keep doing all that we counted . and i will say and ultimately for us to bring about a unification unity referendum that the people have their say on the future of the constitution. do you think you would have seen do you think you would have seen the irony though that is perhaps the unionists the that may bring about a united ireland out of bricks and. you can never speak for the dance but let's just be focused on the fact that we need to protect our protect the end of our land . and that's what our commitment to give us a support thank you. shinn friends vice president michelle anneal speaking to be earlier and while britain is no longer involved in bombing civilians in ireland it is in the world's worst humanitarian crisis in yemen after sunday's u.k. backed mass killing of elementary school girls evidence will be heard today and tomorrow the court of appeal in london against resumes continued to factor a military threat against twenty million people joining me now from the yemeni

capital is journalist hussain albuquerque hussain thanks for joining me for what happened at the elementary school on sunday i know the high court is in judgment now about whether britain is indeed involved in serious crimes against humanity yes sowed the coalition as it has conducted the two strike which you called the strike on that is then. close to the elementary school the called out of schools because of that attack was so close to the schools many children have died either from fear from bannock i thought on some of them or would it would it would enjoy that as well because of the broken window broken glass on of the world because it was a school that have about two thousand five hundred children some of them like jumped from the window on some of them like a fall on the ground and you know other children were running all over them that's why the total number of the civilians that were killed mostly children were thirteen it was about one hundred and nine injured and this number could go up

because there are some schoolchildren who still critically injured the u.k. back to saudi coalition certainly the saudis are saying and i know the nine hundred schools have been targeted since twenty fifteen they say that this is the facilities that are being targeted and in fact judges in the high court in the appeals court right now are saying like they said last last time around in twenty seventeen they're going to have to adjudicate was this really a serious violation of humanitarian law or an accident that saudi claim that the whole thing is a terrorist organization and that they are. taken son a hostage if they are doing so so why are you then thought of those that is the area i mean you can you can fight the host is north of yemen in saga of the border under many military zones a military front line all around the yemen but to target civilians this is the same thing that this already has been from the beginning we remember that the attack on

the funeral the great funeral hole in sanaa that has killed and injured eight hundred fifty civilians that's how the at the beginning they have deny it and they said it was a military target and then they confirmed that and they said we will do an investigation but at the end this war has killed sixteen thousand yemeni civilians by direct strike has over two hundred thousand yemeni civilians have died because of all of the blue kate just in this year two thousand nineteen hundred and fifty thousand new cases of cholera over three hundred deaths of cholera this is directly because of the saudi war conveyed in yemen and as well because of the u.k. are united states is back in and fully back in this war and we have seen the latest report from the daily mail on channel four on as well the guardian about that direct british involvement it was simply ninety five percent of the support that is given to the saudi is actually giving them a boost of the united kingdom stop that i believe they can say stop the war in a matter of days and i have been saying that from the beginning of the war as i

said british judges are twenty seven she said there are no serious violations of humanitarian law as regards the export of arms in fact being folks a trade secretary met with systems after the coup. was the condition as far as you understand it of young girls bombed on sunday night that has not been enjoyed they cannot sleep they cannot. they have. now like some kind of physical condition and we know that war always can damage human being if you want to solve that on go to fight somewhere you will go back to your country and you have some of . symptoms of the war just imagine those little girls in a school to bombs dropped just near the school what i mean if course they would be suffering i think for them for that entire life and i hope. just what i mentioned there when you said about the that it's secretary meeting be a system i mean it should be a human right going to zazen in the united kingdom meet this well being company but

they send that. secret that is because he want to know what will i want to stand affect our pocket is not about the cooperation with saudi arabia is all about our reaction to what's happening in yemen will it cost us money will it effect our money of course it will effect if there is any human rights violation from saudi arabia if you stay silent against it you can make money but if you actually stop stop that and stand with their many civilians this means it will be less money for you but it will save the lives of millions of yemenis to say no because we thank you well with the first pictures from the event horizon telescope released today in the u.s. senate armed services committee holding a hearing on president trump's potential space force tomorrow if he is of a better or for worse humanity is taking its first steps towards a future in space because some of the biggest mysteries facing our civilization today still to be found on earth a new book out now in the u.k.

released later this month in the u.s. alleges that scientists in archeologists after decades of looked more than one hundred thousand years of american prehistory they could reveal the secrets of our species origin and shine a light on the true extent of american colonial genocide the book is america before the key to civilization and its bestselling author graham hancock joins me now graham welcome back to going underground i should ask you we've been told for years yet that there's no point really will archaeological perspective in talking about the americas why is this book so big america before you see it was of long held. view unfortunate to say this about something that defines itself as a science but archaeology is very dogmatic and it was a dogmatic view held for more than fifty years from the one nine hundred sixty s. right through until past twenty ten that the first human beings to enter the americas had come in about thirteen thousand four hundred years ago of course through alaska through and through alaska through the bering ban land bridge and

into and into north america and then into into south america and this was a doctrine it was called clovis first and actually any archaeologist like give you a number of examples like jack jack sunk mars who excavated bluefish caves in the yukon any archaeologist who came across a site where humans were older than thirteen thousand four hundred years was viciously attacked as though the archaeological community was a pack of hyenas they just descended on these dissenting voices and a totally destroyed their careers and were you with i mean with their research you say in the book the editor of nature one of the premier of scholastic because ian said that it was bullying and aggression against people who would want to do exactly terrible bullying and aggression or i often try to try to figure out why why this is and i think that maybe it's maybe it is a natural human instinct to be territorial and if and if your territory is your intellectual territory is a particular idea about the past you're going to tend to resist any ideas that contradict that and if the stronger the ideas are the stronger your resistance is

going to be and this unfortunately is the case that for for more than fifty years evidence of humans in america much older than thirteen thousand four hundred years ago was simply dismissed and anybody who attempted to go that way would not get research funding and would be ostracized by their colleagues and literally have their have their lives ruined and this is most unfortunate it's not how science should proceed because we now know that human beings have been in the americas for tens of thousands of years before thirteen thousand four hundred years ago in fact the latest evidence puts them back more than a hundred and thirty thousand years in the americas and what that says to me is if they were saying before that human. didn't come until thirteen thousand four hundred years ago and nobody should look nobody should dig deeper now we know they were there one hundred thirty thousand years ago that's more than one hundred thousand years of the american story that has not been told entirely because of the dogmatism of archaeology and now reluctantly they're having to accept all of the institutions are accepting well we're sorry we got it wrong but it's not just

a matter of getting it wrong it's a grave responsibility to be the profession that interprets the prehistory of humanity to the modern world and it's a betrayal of that responsibility to be so dogmatic and to refuse to consider any possibility which doesn't fit with one's preconceived notions and you know what the net result is that we're left with one hundred thousand years of north american prehistory which has been completely unstudied and they're only now beginning to study it and the evidence that's coming out both in north america and south america is absolutely stunning all the old preconceptions of being who builders are of the above and as professional class of archaeologists and i know and i know it's very multi-disciplinary this because you're saying not just our village or genetics but yesterday and also the the new science in genetics is one of the things that's breaking the law because because genetic evidence is coming up which can't be explained by the preexisting paradigm for example the preexisting paradigm held

that human beings had only entered america one way that they come up through north asia into siberia across the bering straits which would then a land bridge down through north america and on into south america the problem that d.n.a. has thrown up is that we have a very strong genetic relationship between australasia and aborigines and melanie's in people from papua new guinea and certain tribes in the amazon jungle now if you could find that d.n.a. footprint in central america and in north america as well it wouldn't challenge the existing dogma but you can't you only find it in the amazon and that rules out any possibility that they could have migrated through. north and central america to get to south america they had to have crossed the pacific ocean and furthermore because very ancient skeletal material has been found containing this d.n.a. we know that this happened during the last ice age so they were his horror for archeologists that humans could cross an ocean like the pacific during the last ice age after they regarded it as absolutely impossible. for graham and called after

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football not or else you can think i was going to do. by the way ways of. welcome back i'm still with graham hancock you have made it your life's work to. some of the nine million people who haven't read your books or what. we still don't really understand or officially understand why civilizations of all grew up at the same time in different birds of the earth we don't but that's just a mystery whereas you all over it is to say there is a reason my of my life's work has been to say that there's a forgotten episode in human history and that once we take that forgotten episode into account a high civilization as many of the myths and traditions of the world attest that

existed during the ice age and was destroyed in the cataclysms that brought the last ice age to an end i feel that that's a very neglected possibility not just neglected just absolutely ignored as a possibility and i felt that my role has been to present solid well researched thoroughly documented evidence which challenges that idea because if we are missing a very big part of our story then we don't know who we are we are lost in the modern world and that's why i say it's a grave responsibility to be an archaeologist and to interpret the past to the present because our ideas of who we are come from the story we've been told about that past and now we know that an enormous area of the world the whole of the americas was completely ignored and it may in fact have been the center of the origins of civilization i have a book in my shelves called history begins at soon there in mesopotamia between the tiggers and the euphrates river and that's been the idea of archaeology for

a very long time that civilization began in the middle east in mesopotamia but that idea. and then all over the world but what's what's beginning to change that is evidence much earlier evidence of civilization as we would call it for example go back in turkey and it's pushing the date back right to the edge of the last ice age and those very early sites show evidence of great advanced technology and the only possible explanation as far as i'm concerned is that they inherited a legacy from an even earlier civilization there were of course scholarly archaeologists have long said about your work. ok wear what destroyed it but yes now new evidence which you threw in the book again has emerged or what could have destroyed it a comet and again yes that and the archaeologists hate this idea as well but this idea is coming from more than sixty major mainstream scientists oceanographers geophysicists geologists who have been looking at

a very peculiar lair in the earth that is called the younger dryas boundary layer and it's also called the black mat because it's full of sort of evidence of intense wildfires burning and right at the base of the black are all kinds of minerals and chemicals that can only in abundance be caused by a comet hitting the earth and that's iridium that's melted glass that's carbon my course for us that's nano diamonds which are physically created by the heat and shock of the impact and these are distributed across tens of millions of square miles of the earth's surface and they all date to twelve thousand eight hundred years ago and undoubtedly there was a cataclysm then actually nobody denies that because that's the time that the megafauna went extinct the mammoths die a wall you know the saber tooth tigers the mastodons they all went down at that time and up till now the explanation has been no human beings must have made them must have made them mixed over and over over over hunting although i cannot

conceive of a single hunter gather a group that would willfully wipe out its entire prey prey animal hunter gatherers are actually very protective of the species they hunt they don't they don't wipe them out that's always been a bad idea the notion of the overkill hypothesis and now we have a it's an environmental question police also it also raises environmental questions and then that there are interests that people seek to protect in that area as well but now we have this massive new evidence they've been steadily publishing in major mainstream journals since two thousand and seven the latest papers just came out a month ago in two thousand and nineteen and the overwhelming mass of that evidence just is irresistible we are. must confront the fact that there has been a hidden hand in human history and that hidden hand appears to have been a comet which was originally up to one hundred miles in diameter which came in from deep space from the cloud or the belt and to denote crossing orbit within the solar system began to break up into multiple fragments twelve thousand eight hundred years ago at least four of those fragments hit the ice cap that then covered

greenland in north america causing a massive global cataclysm releasing a huge amount of melt water into the world ocean and bringing global temperatures down suddenly huge dramatic climate change now we know why it happened but it will happen because of a competition i want to get out of the pretty grim implications of why do you think that aside from this in a sense the cover up of. native americans that why would so many people be covering up the evidence of earlier civilizations in the americas i think some people called it a colonial cover up of colonial archeological conspiracist two sides of the story in one side of the story is the way america was conquered by basically anglo saxons and in that conquest of the of the americas what they what they confronted was an indigenous people who had inhabited that realm for tens of thousands of years we now know and the first thing they did was to attempt to exterminate them physically

to get them out of the way and when that became objectionable the next measure was to exterminate their culture to rub it out to pour scorn upon it to say that it was of no value that in a sense the observed and monstrous argument was that the native americans deserved what was done to them because they were supposedly not not capable of any high culture we now know that that's that that's completely untrue and that was a conspiracy that was a conspiracy to destroy native american culture and to legitimize the conquest and the massive theft of land and it carried on into the twentieth century with the so called boarding schools where native american children or. all of them were taken away from their families we've talked about hundreds of miles away and put in schools and taught that their culture was rubbish and indoctrinated with with with with well the actual dog or the wallace broecker but i mean in the book you say that you use the word u.c.l.a.'s president wilkins of the called amazonian cities it was nandan around the sixteenth century sixty thousand population there there

were cities there were there were enormous cities in the amazon this is another piece of the new evidence that's overwhelming the old ideas because the old idea was that there were no humans in the amazon until about a thousand years ago that the amazon although it's a luxury and rain forest has poor soils and that it was impossible for human beings in large numbers to survive there we now know they did and the reason we know they did is tragically because of the clearances of the amazon so much of the amazon has been cut down and in those areas that have been cut down evidence of enormous cities has emerged cities with populations of tens of thousands bigger than london at the same time and not only that but evidence of high science geometric geo glyphs on the earth on the scale of hundreds of meters squares circles they even perform the exercise that we attribute to the ancient greeks of squaring the circle a very very sophisticated geometrical exercise you can see that down on the scale of hundreds of meters in the amazon so this is the point that we are we do have

some of the information from this wiped out civilization because. not everyone was killed by the comet no not everyone there were there were ok just as we live today in a world where there are hunter gather is there a hunter gatherers in the amazon who don't even know we exist there are hunter gatherers in the maybe who live a full hunter gatherer lifestyle they know we exist but they choose to perpetuate to perpetuate their lifestyle they are co-existing with an advanced civilization so called ours and i suggest it was exactly the same during the ice age that there was an advanced civilization on the planet as many myths and traditions suggest that it co-existed with a. to gatherers but who survived the cataclysm in the largest numbers were not the members of the advanced civilization just as i believe we would not survive such a cataclysm today we're not psychic psychologically prepared for a disaster with the spoilt children of the earth we're used to having clothes on our backs roofs over our head plentiful supplies of food in the supermarket you

stop that dead in its tracks and within a matter of weeks there would be traumatic shock and chaos and disorder people from advanced civilizations actually do not have survival skills but people who are hunter gatherers are masters of survival so it's not so not surprising that is the hunter gatherers who survived in the largest number but what i evidence in this book what i document in this book is that there were survivors of a more advanced civilization and they took refuge amongst hunter gatherers and they then tried to teach them what they knew and in hoped to recreate a restart their civilization again and quite apart from the lies you you've exposed i would there was a call them lies i don't think that the archaeologists have deliberately lied i want to be clear about that i think honestly speaking that the majority of archaeologists who held to that old model that has now been completely discredited honestly believed what they were saying to be true they felt that that's what the evidence and then their careers became connected to that idea and they became very reluctant to accept any idea that threatens that and i think it's more that natural

territoriality of human beings rather than a deliberate attempt to hide the truth of the past from us but the effect has been as overwhelming or worse than a deliberate attempt to cover up the past because one hundred thousand years of the human story has just been completely shut down until now and aside from finding out who we are there's obviously trillions spent too and military technology you think we should be spending on so i'm going to protect and serve liberal i certainly do things because it rather they do is one of the things that frustrates and annoys me that we can create massive scientific endeavors we can raise in. norma's amounts of money to fund weapons of mass destruction so that we can invent ever more sophisticated ways to move to one another as a species but when it comes to protecting the earth from environmental threats when it comes to protecting the earth from for example a comet impact we're not interested to tall and the thing is that we could that we could do that and the key point that i really need to make is that that original

giant comet broke up into multiple fragments that caused the cataclysm twelve thousand eight hundred years ago huge bits of it are still in orbit in the torrid meteor stream which the earth passes through twice a year and this is regarded by responsible astronomers as the most grave collision hazard facing the earth at the present time and it doesn't need to be gloom and doom all we need to do is take all that ingenuity all that money all that power that we now put into weapons of mass destruction and turn it towards protection of the earth because these events when they happen are world changing do we really want to see the end of our civilization because that's what's that's what's in the offing unless we do something about this but the good news is we can do something about it my goodness economic interests are already talking about mining asteroids the technology exists to do that you could mine an asteroid you could move it and just finally obviously after if we get past october in the tour then your work has

depended on scholars going out with paper after papers and your last straw and so much new information that has supported your original these year what next you think is very difficult i think we i think we are poised on the edge of what is called in science a paradigm shift i think the monolithic control of the past the dark energy has exercised is being eaten away by new sciences like like like to bet and indeed geology and the result of that is that all the evidence that's coming out shows that the human species is much older than we thought that their ability that their abilities were much more a. then we thought that whole areas of the world that have never been studied by archaeologists a tall may have been the source of an advanced civilization in the past the evidence keeps on mounting up it won't go away i keep thinking i'm finished with this story i thought i was finished with this story in two thousand and two after a book called underworld and then go back to the came along and i needed to write

magicians of the gods and then after publishing magicians of the gods in two thousand and fifteen this just massive amount of new evidence from the americas showing that the whole story of the people in the americas were wrong and that the americas are full of cunningly designed highly scientific monuments geometry astronomy on an extraordinary scale that speaks to enormously sophisticated people . and that's it for the show will be back on saturday when we speak in legendary british political guardian is steve bell whose book before the press council depicting and we kissinger as a judge turkey with a german accent just chill the social media will. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then.

after a tense day of debate leaders of the e.u. member states agreed to give. theresa may until the end of october to secure a deal on drugs that. crisis talks at the u.n. security council see russia and the us lock horns over venezuela with america's vice president giving a blunt assessment to the caracas envoy. with all due respect mr ambassador you shouldn't be here. you should return to venezuela. and tell nicolas maduro that his time is up. it's time for him to go. thank you.