there could be yes certainly but you never know you know sometimes events happen in the day before they offer so it's really difficult to know but clearly america is behind those doubts that's for sure and is for independent jealousies bit like a robin hood a modern robin hood you match in the watergate scandal a few years ago when richard nixon was. was taken down by the two cellists of the washington post it was before the internet today that the really good of internet is choosing the songs for the independent press and everybody used to watching every field of course all clinton all the water in iraq on the war in afghanistan so this is a sad day for for independent journalism if he is to do us of course it will take some time certainly year if it gets the penalty from the court in the u.k.

to send him to prison a new cave for for a few months or twelve months here. after that what he faces is a life in prison in the u.s. but given the fact that you keep police confirmed that a son's was arrested in relations to an extradition warrant on behalf of the u.s. . can we say that we might expect some kind of a secret indictment to take place within the next twenty four hours or within the next week. aware of anything of the kind but it's very possible it's very possible that speak it's being written at the moment you don't know. the american snowing but it's and he is and the hands of the british police now and he will you know he goes to court in the u.k. to have some time to prepare themselves to filed the documents to get him

extradited to the us but of course high treason and us that's the death penalty i'm sure it wouldn't go to that but he faces life in prison and i hope he has good lawyers. as our correspondent just highlighted julius on just this it a divisive figure you've got those who hate him who are in very powerful positions but then you have these very passionate supporters these people that come out onto the streets and camp outside the embassy and a lot of like prominent celebrities as well who use their voices to call for his freezer is it a case of who screams the loudest that will determine a son and his future i mean we do live in an age where it is power to the people social media has enabled people to have their voices heard you know things can fall out can we can the people he's supportive shout louder then we will dorothy. i think it could play a role to certainly indeed u.k. in europe because it wouldn't play the same way into us in due course not only the

republican mike pompei always off the rim but also to democrats of course we hate his guts for what he did to hillary clinton by revealing all the e-mails that because the squinted the didn't even protect. the state in the washington state the democrats hate his guts so he won't be defended by democrats or republicans when he comes if he comes to the u.s. but in europe of course the voice of the people who tried to defend this new robin hood can be heard and the government the british government will listen to them and could be quite difficult for them to simply extradite a soldier to do without further process. i certainly among the at the main news broadcast is this is that taken president it's the headlines of the day it certainly in the u.k. as well and potentially in the u.s. how about bear in. other news actively covering it.

i mean every person in journalism and everything every person in politics all politicians are watching what happens now so it's going to be it's a new set of course like everywhere else there will be repercussions throughout europe the wave from paris the berlin to process everywhere everybody will talk about here at the european commission i'm sure people are talking about it and and following the news because it's as we talked and things up being decided so. it's it's not clear what the positions will be at the european commission or in the different governments of europe that will have to say something sweden for example where he was accused of rape strange accusations that were dropped since then but may be in sweden the influence of america didn't start that this is you know so it's difficult to know but thirty probably there will be heavy reactions of people

defending a song in europe in every capital. all right thank you so much for bringing us your insight here on our eighteen her national. as the leader of a thank you very much q well amongst the media scrum and london our correspondent polly boyd come as they're waiting to catch sight of judy in a staunch let's cross live to our polly what are we hearing and what are we seeing outside where you are now. but we just cts a glimpse actually we have seen many cars pulling up to the back of westminster magistrates' court here throughout the morning ever since we learned that julian assange has been forcibly removed from the ecuadorian embassy at around ten fifteen london time this morning and just a few moments ago three big police trucks came in here there was quite a scrum chaos police getting quite angry at the many reporters that were trying to conjure and live all of the wiki leaks found but lo and behold some of the

cameramen managed to get some shots of him he was in one of the trucks going into the for now sort of the room here is that the judge has gone to have his lunch and all he is finished having his lunch well then we might see julian a songe we should see him charged here quite swiftly and we're going to give you an eye on what's going on inside the building for you in the time being. poly now apart from a lot of reporters that i'm sure they're waiting for some comment or something to happen to be filmed now what do you see there in the crowd do you see any supporters of julius do you see people ready to protest against the i'm being arrested. not at the moment but i'll tell you why because we were all stood at the back entrance there should be some protesters at the front i would be checking that

we might be moving along that now that. it's an official proceeding getting on and under way although i suspect they're still going to be a media scrum back here. waiting for him to come out and get that picture of him inside the police truck in costa rated now at the hands really of the british authorities so not at the moment i suspect there might be a bit of vigil outside the ecuadorian embassy that is after all where all his supporters have got used to gathering over the past seven years but it all sort of depends on how it plays out what he's going to be charged with we now know that it's a u.s. extradition request that brought the police or not paying to the ecuadorian embassy with the agreement of the ecuadorian offshore it's easy and the president landed in the read news saying that it was because julian assange has been so discussed to us and had breached the times of his asylum we now know that his citizenship his the

ecuadorian citizenship has been revoked as well so all in all a pretty bad start to the day for the wiki leaks founder and we are going to see how it progressed that's indeed to say the least partly boycotters downslide of the courts and is probably going to be there for a few hours more where a song has been called thank you for now polly. ok what's the little update for you now julian a song will be taken to westminster magistrates court this afternoon we understand also ecuador government is reportedly going to provide prosecution with information on two suspected russian hackers over their potential links to judas songs while the plot thickens now doesn't say good morning to the interior minister indeed plenty more response is going to be pouring in throughout the day we've already heard from some of us on g.'s more prominent supporters including edward snowden

and john pilger the journalist and filmmaker british foreign secretary has spoken out calling a song a saying us. and he is no hero and no one is above the law but we probably will be hearing from the u.k. prime minister to resign may later in the day he was probably grateful as be huge distraction given everything that is going on with their exit at the moment possibly be hearing from the u.s. president was wow this is indeed and huge story we'll bring you all the latest on honesty of course yeah well we heard some reaction coming from the. president as well the president who actually gave. him seven years ago now he called the current ecuadorian president lending maranoa the greatest trader in ecuador in latin american history as he allowed the british police to enter our their embassy in london to arrest a son and earlier we saw some really harsh pictures.

being pulled out of the ecuadorian embassy police officers practically dragged him out and shot him into the police and now as we heard from our reporter there standing by the cord he is ready to at least hear was going to happen to him which is still quite a mystery indeed to those extraordinary pitches that madonna was just talking about all of a silent being physically carried out all the ecuadorian embassy this morning by these boy exclusive images captured by r.t.s. roughly video agency and we are hoping to bring you plenty more exclusives throughout the day we're now waiting outside of the court so we understand the song just having something to eat and then we make it more of a glimpse of him but do stay tuned over the latest. information and video.

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prominence will welcome the news of thursday's arrest of the wiki leaks founder julian assange and to raise them a deeply unpopular at the moment over the whole break is it. how will this decision or her show of support for the u.s. how would that affect her popularity do you think. can you repeat the end of the question how will her report do you think that showing the orange support for the u.s. and it's starting to get on challenge well as thanks to popularity. i think it's one of those issues that divides political opinion i think people on my side of the fence generally i mean the waters are very much being muddied to some extent by you know accusations of sexual misconduct from sweden a few years ago charges which have been dropped i think many people many progressives recognize that wiki leaks has done a historically incredibly significant job in terms of exposing incredible scale in

undeniable detail the machinations of basically modern imperial power and i think the key thing to understand about the significance of wiki leaks historically is that there's a huge difference between understanding that things are generally going on so you know that of course the u.s. has all sorts of behind the scenes influence in terms of geopolitics on numerous governments across the world there's a big difference in general when a combined with a plausible deniability on behalf of governments like the you can the u.s. do to begin seeing that and actually having the hard evidence you know having it in black and white in you know e-mail after e-mail cable off the cable showing the interactions between hillary clinton state department for instance and other agencies about you know their attitude to syria and basically saying that you know they want their welfare support but they were basically fine with muslims killing other muslims you know there's all sorts of kind of tina's that has been

a feature of imperial power for many centuries in you know in the u.k. in the u.s. i'm sure in russia you know in any way that there's been power and i think the detail that is conveyed in terms of the crimes of state and the undermining of democracy in countless ways i think has been a huge survey. to freedom in the greatest game of things and so not surprisingly the right wing the reason my represents i mean you know similarly to. even move right wing that donald trump represents not surprisingly they will celebrate absolutely did the rest of us on this but i think it's telling that there was a plausible deniability through twenty twelve that they were actually going to arrest him and extradition charges because when the swedish charges leveled against him he assigned said categorically i will answer these charges the swedish authorities can come across to me here if they give me a guarantee i'm not going to be extradited to to the u.s. i will come to sweden today and of course that that wasn't given but that was

plausible deniability as i say and now we see categorically in twenty nineteen that this was the plan all along to try and get to the u.s. whether the chances of him facing anything like justice especially with a new the new even more partisan right wing supreme court i think are incredibly slim so i for one am wades you know the guardian you know these these sort of liberal progressive voices in the u.k. that are saying absolutely we must stand strong against america and not him to the u.s. i think it would be a terrible travesty of justice and you know yes i should add there are questions about the way unlike edward snowden for instance where he released his information there are genuine moral questions about the way so much information was released on edited by wiki leaks but i think as i say history will judge him absolutely as an incredibly positive force that helped expose the v.a. now that he has power and i hope will be part of move us towards a more genuinely democratic and equal well georget for those who support the songs

and championing the heroes it would have been quite upsetting i expect to see him be a force to be carried out of the embassy this morning it looked very frail only look you know you know it's awful to be honest and he was shouting and being carried out it wasn't very nice to see since then we have received an image of him inside the police van when he's doing a thumbs up to the camera so do you think this is a sign that you know his spirit isn't broken yet you know he's a man with a plan he still thinks he has a case. i don't think the spear is broken and i think anyone hold up mainly in a single room for seven or eight years is going to struggle in terms of mental health especially knowing that you know on the other side of when you walk out that door one day you could end up. killed perhaps i mean there are many in the u.s. that for years have called for charges of high treason which would seem executed i mean if you does go to the us probably i mean i'm not a legal expert but i think the most likely thing is that he will get thrown away

for life you know so obviously he has been a very terrifying situation but i think there's no indication that he has a commitment to exposing the truth of what power does behind the scenes is any is any less now than it did it ever was. you know certainly he looks you know he looked reasonably kind of wild when he when he came out but i think that somewhat to be expected and you know yet it's upsetting but i think as i say the service that wiki leaks and others have done in that alcibiades to expose the way power really works is really vital especially in the context of you know all this stuff we still see in the mainstream media accusing russia and many others who i'm sure like like many so-called great powers do what they can to have influence across the world and you know undermine elections whatever days you know what wiki leaks is showing these calls the u.s. is undermining elections in every single part of the world i mean we know from numerous state department cables you know good i mean when hillary clinton was there but not just hillary clinton effectively talking about how so and so i

propose a new leader of a country. with a fact to be unacceptable to need to be replaced with somebody else you know the end part is alive and well in the more we can expose that the greater our chances of moving towards it to the sane just and compassionate world where we actually start dealing with the very real problems like the fact that we are destroying all the living systems of the planet and we have very little time to turn that around i'm also part of a movement called extinction rebellion which is going to hit the headlines again next monday and i would love us to be able to. really move on to the actual important issues on which our future survival and you know peaceable well being on this planet depend. on the d.n.a. here in the studio i would like to ask you about what do you think about the timing of the around us given the fact that this unprecedented jewel in the sunshine took place only a day after we get leaks out of her in chief claimed that an extensive spying operations was conducted against the sunshine in the ecuadorian embassy and he also

added that the operation was designed to get a sound now let's listen to the we give exaggerator in chief about what was revealed. the extensive spying operation against the u.s. and its work within the ecuadorian embassy building as ours has been living you know sort of the. truman show like situation inside the embassy what we have to establish is that security cameras were used to monitor his every move. quite like this year to see truck administration a few weeks ago we learned that some individuals in spain. where. the information that they had much of told all false documents relating to julian asserts that got a. e-mail there from the individual and to the phones of those.

where he said this material. has a price the prize is from three million euros it was photographs of julian inside the embassy this it to use lopes for the photographs. well do you think that the timing is rather suspicious don't you think that these two events are connected. when i mean for people that don't understand what's going on a little bit behind the scenes there's been a shift in administration in ecuador from. administration that was you know famous amongst progressives around the world for really taking on in some really important ways the near liberal factor right all through doxie that's been ruling the world for the last thirty forty years and doing things the very sort of heretical to us power like trying to take some of the natural resource

wealth of ecuador and actually invest it in a new poll of people in the services they need and that kind of thing is that is very much the threat of a good example to us corporate power you know some somewhat i mean to link it to the u.k. somewhat in the way that the you and it's you know programs of taxing the rich reasonably and paying for normal people to have services you know these things get in the way of the vision of the right wing billionaires the coax and the robot masses who have funding breaks in trump you know because they want to get rid of that as an example for anyone across the world to see and the same in ecuador and so we now have a new new administration and it was mentioned earlier that day a tweet tweeted about you know the treacherous nature of this act by by the now the now leader of ecuador and it seems that you know a he's implicated it appears in ledged money laundering and corruption all sorts of other things so it doesn't seem surprising at all that as the administration

shifted and ecuador is now incredibly dependent on the i.m.f. for loans that are keeping it afloat with the u.s. as the greater contributor it seems not a tool surprising that they've been trying to collect evidence on on julian assange is that they are planning to use in you know a post exhibition case where he can become a you know. for the right wing in the u.s. to. frame themselves as. you know the bastions of freedom and democracy by framing i found just the opposite essentially and that kind of scapegoating the new mccarthyism that it represents and the wider picture in which in which journalists across the world have been under attack like never before in my lifetime i think it's really important to have gotten into the bigger picture and where julian assange and the fight to protect him come into it and it's not just he is relevant to all journalists across the world i would say yeah he's such a divisive figure recently you've got those who love to hate him so where do you think or do you expect the u.k.

media to fall do you think they will rally in support of him. no i mean for anyone that doesn't know the u.k. very well we have a media that is sort of ninety percent roughly you know right wing and you know billionaire right wing billionaire corporate funded so we have you know the b.b.c. that relative to the daily mail and the murdoch press seems kind of relativity progressive but actually is especially when there's a right wing government incredibly constrained in what it can report we have the guardian and the independent which relative to the rest of the sort of center left and the guardian to its credit it's come out great stronger than editorial saying we must be at their own fame but i would assume that the vast majority of the predominantly right wing press will effectively. step in line you know as we meant to is the kind of us who go. behind what america wants and can text realize this in terms of it's very important because obviously if we are to leave

the you you know. viable trading arrangement with you know our nearest partners then we will be incredibly we will affect. the terms america in terms of some sort of horrible trade deal that there will be all sorts of pressure to sign and the right wing media will certainly be behind that in various ways. i would imagine the predominantly right wing media to answer your question will be behind some kind of extradition. the same time i would imagine say the times you know the organs that are kind of center right will have superficially a kind of new position but i wouldn't be surprised if they do fall down on the side if we should extradite him but it will be interesting because there is you know the power in the u.k. does still like to think of itself as defending liberal values in the negative by which i mean you know people should be allowed to do what they were. the savage has no problem you hammering poor people in terms of taking away the things they

actually need to have meaningful free lives but there is still something of a tradition of defending rights and there is obviously a very categorical case in terms of international law to say that the u.s. has not you know there isn't a case that the u.s. is delivering justice in any number of the cycle to terrorism related cases so it will be interesting but i think it will probably end up with the right way and the majority generally falling in line behind the american extradition request george thanks for joining us a nazi international on today but this very historic day i'd have to say especially in the environmental justice campaign i just bought a thank you. and we're getting. published a huge trove of documents revealing war crimes mass surveillance and corruption.

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living with the leaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile colors or. well for those of you just joining us you're watching r.t. international we're bringing you breaking news that this thursday whistleblower julian a song has been arrested and removed but was simply from the ecuadorian embassy in london julie the stanchest been arrested but officers from the metropolitan police at the embassy that we do on a warrant issued by westminster magistrates court on the twenty ninth of june twenty twelve the failing to surrender to the school he's been holed up in the cold in sixty years now wiki leaks says a staunch did not walk out of the embassy story about the invited british police inside to arrest him.