justice the u.s. department of justice has just officially made a connection between june and chelsea manning when it comes to the case against weaken leaks what do you make of the timing of julian assange his arrest in the u.k. given the fact that chelsea manning is right now in a u.s. jail i mean it's the a sleek ordinated i think this has been planned for a long time and. government was just looking and making excuses to put him into the hands of the united states government. where he's definitely not going to get a fair trial. i don't think be a rest of julian as phones means the press free to me on the blog the largest scale of things that do you think this is a watershed moment. yeah i think that this is. a really really dark day for press freedom. julian the sun has done more for for free press and the right to know and free information than any other journalist in

the history he's nominated for the nobel peace prize this year and the fact that our administration is extraditing him and charging him for doing journalism is shocking and disgusting they're accusing him of asking chelsea manning for more leaks more information even if he did do you that that's what journalists do they're criminalizing journalism this is unacceptable and nobody should stand for this honestly excuse me for saying but you do a paid to be visibly shaken and very upset by what's happened to julian assange is today. these kind of feelings that you you have this kind of passion you have for joining us on this is sad amongst quite a wide community of supporters what kind of action do you think that his supporters will be taking what do you want to do next. well i mean i can tell you over the

weekend it was actually really beautiful there were everything from greggs supporters and yellow vests to communist and socialist all merging together and chanting together to free julian assad outside the ecuadorian embassy and i would love to see more of that i know lenin marina's going to be in d.c. in five days i urge everybody to go down there and protest his meeting i will have free free julius onj posters for everybody who come and. yet i think people need to get off their butts and they need to take a firm stance against this because our first amendment is at stake and i do wild thing here and many up with a songs would have walked out of the ecuadorian embassy a free man. is it realistic. now he's never going to get a fair trial look what this judge did to john kiriakou it's the same court they

dismissed seventy two motions that john kerry got that filed this judge they're known for pursuing these national security cases and there's not a snowball's chance that if he's extradited here he will have a fair shot there's no way. i understand i'm sorry i don't really emotional pleas please when it's done that a lot a lot of his supporters will be amassing outside of the core we believe there's a small crowd gathering now will you be going there yourself or what kind of action will you be taking post nearly if any and in full support of the protesters who are in london right now oh and i'm glad that everybody can finally see the toll that this is been taking on him in the torture that he's going through in the embassy and i hope that it galvanizes people to get out into the streets in protest. to sondra the statement by the department of justice says that julian assange faces a maximum of five years in prison if you found guilty and it also says and let me

do a quick read out actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties do you see it as a positive sign with the maximum sentence is five years it's not thirty five the like with chelsea manning god in the maximum security prison and also they're saying that the protocol in normally even less than that would you make of that. they don't trust anything that they're saying they can still add charges on. i'm sure that that's their jumping off point but i am not going to be shocked if the end tacked on a ton of charges like they did to chelsea. they're not they didn't spend twenty five million dollars sitting at the embassy it for five years of you know to put him in jail for five years that's just not. i don't think that certain tension are going to stay with us let's face it always hated julian assange but you know the us

that was that there was that when a staunch went into the ecuadorian embassy is very different to the us we have now we have president trump at the helm so how much of an impact has the new president's fairly new president had oh no what has happened today and what will happen to kill innocent well i think julian believes the president trump has ramped up the efforts to prosecute him and i think that he was correct and i i mean donald trump when jeff sessions said that arresting julius andras a priority donald trump said that he was ok with that and i think that he is very desperate to be liked and. this will get him like so i'm not holding my breath for him to do you have. to sandro if we can leaks it played a big role in the twenty sixteen presidential election so to speak and because it

was the web site that published all the trolls of the documents that it got from the d.n.c. from the had d.n.c. server do you see eventually catching up on a sunday and possibly adding to the charges. i mean it's possible. i don't know i'm hoping not but is it also keep in mind there is the full seven week which was the largest cia leak in history. there's a lot of material there really angry about and i i'm sure there's going to be enormous charges that it on and i just hope that they're not espionage act or petri it. i hope he can somehow get a fair trial. i'm not holding my breath i felt the porters like yourself i mean the thing i saw being carried out for simply all the embassy this morning was quite upsetting wasn't he didn't look good he was shouting he was he was being forced into a police van you know no one's going to get in a situation late so we did get

a picture of him and find a policeman giving us thumbs up and mean it assigned to you but his spirits not broken at the still fight left in him you think. well no his fate is a million not broken as i said i visited him just a couple weeks ago and he got into a massive argument with the ambassador and or i wrote about this week you can for him get on their twitter. worrying investors being you agent of the u.s. government. in the u.s. spying on him and all it seems to be true i mean what kind of government allows another another nation to enter their embassy to arrest somebody with asylum it's shocking and i. know you've been trying to break your spirit but he hasn't and i saw it firsthand when i was there he was fighting and. i think he'll continue to do so but i can't see that date for you and for our viewers as well as knowledge is

now in code given another thumbs up to his supporters appearing calm and confident as the judge asked him what his lawyers was bringing you more details on that but for now casandra fact banks journalist and wiki leaks supporter thank you very much for your time you for having me. well according to scotland yard it was the u.s. who requested the extradition of judy no songs and wiki leaks says its over ties to chelsea manning and the unveiling of the iraq war documents and others to top secret information and silence was given asylum in two thousand and twelve after an investigation into rape allegations was launched against the wiki leaks co-founder in sweden well that were those were later suspended in two thousand and seventeen here's a look back now at how the case unfolded. the

government of a cruel loyal to his tradition of protecting those looking for safety in his territory or inside one of his diplomatic missions has decided to give diplomatic asylum to julian a sandwich. there is if you're just joining us you're watching r.t. international we're bringing you breaking news this thursday was a blow and wiki leaks co-founder julian assange was arrested inside the ecuadorian embassy in london on thursday morning after ecuador revoked his asylum police say the arrest was made in part following an extradition request from the united states

which ones him on alleged to computer hacking offenses of songs has been taken to westminster magistrates court we will continue to bring you all of the latest updates as the story develops well the early hour video agency rep exclusively films the moment offices seized in a songs. what . are. the words. well that was a small one and why now jude in a song just sitting in the dock waiting for the proceedings to get underway in

colts meanwhile wiki leaks editor in chief kristinn hrafnsson has been speaking outside of the cold he says julian assange is a rest shows that no journalist is say. didn't. set. any. case. you. would see. that this. was. facing. you think oh excuse. me remind you that. we.

face you want they should thank you for the world. we have. and wish. it would be. this was. your only exercise you can say. right now and get. that. you must to. just say thank you you. don't get anywhere with me say extradition to the states. or even one of them. so this must stop

this must think. scotland yard has said a song has been arrested on a warrant issued by westminster magistrates court in june two thousand and twelve and following a u. s. extradition request while he spent almost seven years inside of the ecuadorian embassy we have our correspondent in london now following all the latest twists and turns polyploid copal you've been there for quite a few hours now we understand that a song is in the dock waiting for proceedings to get underway the latest is that we understand he's pleaded not guilty he did give a thumbs up to his supporters as well what more are you hearing from outside the court that. well there's a rifle in the arrival of the police and the legal team but here we've got quite a spectacle really his supporters the ones that we got used to seeing outside the door an embassy on now we hear there's a bit of a demonstration happening by the front entrance to town we are waiting for

a scientist legal team to emerge from here to see. that those court proceedings are completed now the latest update that i have is that he's been charged to be an assault has been charged over in the u.s. on charges of a computer hacking conspiracy so that's coming from the justice department and proud of his seven year exile inside the ecuadorian embassy today and a son to his legal team had repeatedly policed sons that this was specifically was they fear they fear this extradition intentional for extradition to the united states and it turns out now that the u.s. and the u.k. in ecuador have elected lee played that card against julian assange on which he was forcibly removed from the ecuadorian embassy at around ten fifteen this morning. the external forty seven five hit the british police the metropolitan police to

enter the embassy building and. i mean the chilean assan she did seem to be a preplanned deliberation and to take a listen to what the president of ecuador let him render you had to say about it. on announce that the disk is an aggressive behavior of mr julian the whole style in threatening to kill ration he's annoyed organization i could go on especially the transgression of international treaties have led the situation to a point where this is have led the situation to a point where the asylum of mr a song is unsustainable are no longer viable. and the renders said that it was a sovereign decision to withdraw asylum to the innocent often repeated violations to international conventions and daily life protocols and i think those two issues there are really quite illustratively of the reasons that relations soured between julian assange and his host he had been accused of meddling in international

affairs through his activities as founder and editor of wiki leaks so the next door to start is called softly in the sun just internet access last year and also that it was a somewhat sort of bizarre domestic dispute between the ecuadorian hosts and just on stage gave them a list of conditions to adhere to last year he had to pay for his own food for his own laundry bills he needed to tidy up after i caught that we know is the embassy tactics but its own twitter feed but it was julian assange just pet cats until it was removed as well he needed to clean up his own ball treatment for a sunset and went on to sue the ecuadorian austerities for what he said was infringing his free to him and his right to asylum so we break down every nation save the process year ever since lenin miranda came to power as president and took a much topless dollar against julian assange it's now the british government has

a pretty tough starts. someone said the form of the sound of wiki leaks as well the u.k. foreign secretary jeremy hunt. mentioned today when commenting on someone just like that actually it was the ecuadorian authorities that were kept hostage by a cell and i'm not a solid and kept hostage in the ecuadorian embassy take a listen to what jeremy hunt had to say. but what we've shown today is that no one is above the law julian assange is no hero he's hidden from the truthful is due but also a very courageous decision by president in ecuador to resolve the situation. what's the reason may has said that she was the colemans say the politicians here in the british parliament welcome the arrest of julian the songe so she's expressed that particular message and now joining us on to as i said spend said that inside

the exit door an embassy went and sold asylum that back in two thousand and twelve the charges that have since been brought to take a look back at just how long this saga really is. going to saunter is a bit of a mob mind here in the u.k. at least that pinions very months as to whether he is

a make. a villain or you know a hero in this story. it's one of the reasons it has such prominence there and attracts such a such just so much media attention for his demonstrators his supporters are here demonstrating now waiting to hear what comes out of their school proceedings i think one of the most shocking aspects to this story today and this development is that it was sort of working in conjunction with the u.k. on the u.s. behind the scenes together in order to bring to the songes time during embassy and this political asylum to an end. around this and she's a big supporter julian assange and she said that she's shocked by what's happened rafael correia the former president of ecuador has said that he let him run a is a traitor for what he's done but it really divide divides opinion and we're just

waiting to see what the next legal step will be as soon as the full proceedings variably expect to hear from the two men sondra legal team and it will see what they plan to do next keep on top of rain forest polly was only a matter of time wasn't it before all those protests though supporters of us thought gathered outside of the cold. how big is the crowd at the moment and what kind of things that they have written on that plaque cards that rachel saw one just behind you that said something about the u.s. . might vision isn't that great mickey but i can see free julian assad enjoying one of the pop. if there is a time to polish demonstrates is that the same handful i have to say that tend to show up at the ecuadorian embassy as well some very colorful characters in fact but no doubt this might attract even more people to the polls actually what's

happened today because some people saw a genius on just a bit of a conspiracy theorist and then. it's an opinion that actually well why doesn't he walk free the charges against him and been told no one really you know no one is cooking anything up but he's now been vindicated we now see that the us has in fact you know charged him the justice department had to have something up and we have to see how that plays out but this my attracts more people to leap to his defense what happened today. i came on the on that night thank you very much for those latest details that boyko speaking to his life in london and outside the court where julian assange has just pleaded not guilty the reminder for those of you just joining us now we're bringing you breaking news this thursday is the huge story whistleblower and wiki leaks co-founder julian assange has been arrested inside of the ecuadorian embassy in london that was this morning about ten fifty am i believe

and that was off to ecuador revoked his asylum the british police say the arrest was made in part following an extradition request from the united states which once he is on the alleged computer hacking offenses lessons has been taken to westminster magistrates court where he has just pled not guilty to failing to surrender i will continue to bring the updates as the story develops but now we have egos done up in the studio as supporting. the latest details in this ongoing saga. and lighting as they go states one julia songe four and that is conspiring with chelsea manning basically orchestrating would eventually turned out to be the biggest military leak in u.s. history the biggest leak of secret military documents now they're referring to the documents. referred to the afghan war into the u.s. involvement in the iraq war and what they are saying is that. julian assange is

wanted in connection with a federal charge of. conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified u.s. government computer now they elaborate on this and they're saying that effectively he stayed in touch with the chelsea manning at the time bradley manning ordered classified and secret documents and he encouraged the chelsea manning to provide to basically send as many copies of the docking to copy and why a transfer or just transfer as many documents as possible to the we can leaks for that we can leads to eventually release that now i want to make a brief pause here brief stop and we have in fact we prepared a short clip as to what those afghanistan and iraq document leaks eventually were about let's have a look. but

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wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence sort of. like a hot or cold turkey. but those revelations they had such a tremendous impact all that everybody you know those who love him and chunky and hand and those who believe him to be the ultimate villain but he really doesn't mean so much to many people and you know on the one hand he represents press freedom so this is a watershed moment isn't it absolutely i mean this is that was the thing that sort of kick started the whole the whole thing and eventually led to his seven year you know asylum stay at the door an embassy now i have to update our viewers. because district judge michael snow has just found guilty julian assange of failing to surrender to the u.k.

police now that was that was the thing that was the formal reason as to why the u. k. want to decide still the u.k. from the get go they were saying we want to arrest a son because he failed to appear you failed to surrender to the police to the u.k. police when when the police wanted him and so they've just found him guilty of that so it looks like so basically they're playing out the they're playing out you know following the notes of this of this play and addressing the point that you made that it is a watershed moment for journalists and i'd say it's not just for journalists it's also for activists and for. anything that some people in power do not want to come to the public light and we've had quite a bit of reaction i should say we've had glen greenwald a. an investigative journalist himself a court saying that the u.s. the american charge basically what the americans are saying he's saying that the

department of justice is criminalizing journalism why he's saying that he's saying that because the us accused. a son of encouraging manning to provide as many documents as possible for instance they give this alleged conversation between the two manning saying after this upload that's really all i've got to eat your son allegedly replied that well curious eyes never run dry in my experience this is this is what glenn greenwald is calling the criminalization of journalism because this is basically this is exactly what journalists do with their sources he is saying when a journalist gets a source he tries to get as much information as as it is possible we have john kiriakou a convicted whistleblower in the united states here veteran yes saying that the well a fair trial in the fair trial. in the united states is impossible and they don't call the they don't call espionage for nothing that's been his reaction also

we've said also we have a statement by the us lawyer by the american lawyer for julian assange to school this basically an outrageous case of criminalizing journalism as well because the line of defense now is that julian assange did nothing wrong they're saying the julian a son just spoke the truth he revealed certain facts that eventually turned out to be just that facts the truth so that's what they are saying and that's what julian assange has supporters are saying that the man should not be prosecuted and persecuted for revealing something that actually happened it is interesting isn't it you know because this knowledge isn't the only whistleblower that has revealed some very interesting and john kiriakou for instance who we have on the show regularly he is also a very well known whistleblower but astonished there's something very special about him but he's become the poster boy for leaks isn't he and maybe something to do

with the mystery surrounding him because he was kept in the embassy for so long and people couldn't get their heads around how how he could stay there for over six years and say yeah clearly clearly as the founder of the weekly leaks is of course seen as something somewhat of a ringleader of the whole operation that's and hence the status also by the way we have reaction from edward snowden who called this a dark day for all journalists let's have a listen. images of ecuador's ambassador inviting the secret police into the embassy to drag a publisher of like it or not award winning journalism out of the building we're going to end up in the history books and sanchez critics may cheer but this is a dark moment for press freedom so indeed edward snowden another well it was snowden got asylum in russia no indication that moscow plans to send him away anytime soon so he's got that going for him well not so not so lucky i mean yes he

is he did appear he has just appeared in court just a quick reminder and indeed when you speak of other whistleblowers the case of chelsea manning and i mean mind this the department of justice in the states as just connected the two with its just connected julian assange and chelsea manning because they're both now accused of conspiring in chelsea manning is in jail in the united states should.