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and we have to pay the costs and the cost might be very expensive as we have been close in bahrain and i'm willing to bet that all the changes that we are fighting for. and. where us legally are you are you in the clear no. no. i am still pending prosecution the case is under investigation i banned from travel and accused of murders. of public property namely military p.c.'s. stealing military weapons. inciting illegal assembly for the purposes of terrorism . so i'm basically accused of beating the hell out of a couple of platoons that weapons and little killing where you are alleged to be a very naughty boy. and a super man also doing stuff that would be impossible for. confronting the p.c.'s
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on my own and so on and i have witnesses that the prosecution with this is have to fight to me being in two places at the same time yet i'm still being investigated so i'm obviously capable of way more you know many superpowers but which is pretty awesome. i had a good reputation and street cred in prison you know people go to prison because they steal cars but i'm being accused of stealing. how do you think you're. particularly interested in meal just the idea that they want to use courts as a tool against activists and as illegitimate you know it's not enough to be able to beat the hell out of them and some have to be able to kill people in fact even when they do targeted killings like we think their target killings they're targeting people who are very crucial on the ground but they're not will noon so they are stuck with this you know the famous act was the limit what do you do about them and i think they are trying to build a legitimacy for using the courts against us and keep. it's backfiring but the they
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are biting the time they mean so that's why the case is still on and that's why i'm still accused maybe they'll eventually manage to tarnish my image enough and they are working on it i'm. being accused of holding crude he views for instance. which again you know what's the current status what's the state of play in brain right now i was a different three different status in tunisia complete revolution complete overthrow of the regime complete and. well it's now and you have egypt musial then you have an egypt which is halfway revolution. not yet completed ugly and desist and the regimes did exist then you have been by they have a vision still exist and walking and did not yet achieved anything but the revolution is this did in the process. of continuing. many people who
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were killed in terms of percentage much more than people lost in tunisia and egypt unfortunately we had a new region ruled by families dictators. tenth of a couple of hundred of years but this comes of from the worth from the american support from the armies they have and from knowledge in a sea from people no other knowledge to me from people but those are really added things that they're ruling us and we can change because nobody wants to talk about . what's what's the present state of play. in egypt you know you. would basically you know these things it was quite surprising that you know that mubarak would fall that quickly the price was high but we thought it would be much and so on so what's happening in egypt is that what we expected should happen like i mean we are. we would have expected that. something.
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over a year. so that year that didn't happen with mubarak is happening with the military and people after the initial moment of thinking you know the military might just decide to. retain its unity and status by not engaging and not to take protecting that he is actually the meat to the is the quote of the regime sort of. against. the revolutionary groups in brain and the people who supported these protests movements embrace being well. to scared to act. a fraction of that pathetic. who's left to still be pushing forward while still a lot of people you have i mean i would be surprised or you should not be surprised to see half of the by any population coming out didn't want to protest it's still happening it's not happening in any of the revolution what none of the revolution
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we had in the history in the past fifty years you would see fifty percent of the population out industry didn't want to protest but you would see in bahrain unfortunately because of the debate the stand of many countries because of the debate a standard of many. candidates like just like i don't like european channels that they don't hide ideas but this is the reality why doesn't al-jazeera just you know positive in egypt doing positive in tunisia in fact i just signed what i need a video should indicate a book if it does include a bit of addition or not for just a little cover to those of you should musically but when it comes to bahrain i just you know what a quote i'm talking about out of because you are not the english are completely doing this was all right it was and said to me do it ok the other week when they would complete silence in fact in many areas that they can decide of the government why why because. they're all from
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a same similar ruling family under similar region and democracy in bahrain means it's going to have an impact of qatar is going to have impact and so you had a beer which has the added we have t.v. channel so why did saudis saying troops into into bahrain and that's i mean this is something the whole world has to speak out and have to condemned what happened but we see in the invasion of saudis to my country with complete silence now the same government sending troops to leave. to fight their g.m. and now that i gave this to syria and i said which i did have to be maybe but when it comes to my brain they were in complete silence was always in the wrong place where they scared all of the shia activists she arranged spreading into saudi know because of these saudis are very influential the united states in europe they have . defeated the interests of united states for the interest of the many european
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countries for the autumn save for the flow of the all year for their mutual interest which many countries are seeing it has more priority than the human rights of the bahraini for example december united states which ask a question not just for syria they are sitting on so bahrain is that is why did the president to defend america and the president even the human rights council saying that he would not talk about bahrain decision because martin is improving itself and doing better whether people as i'm talking to you a few hours ago one man died because of tear gas we have daily basis people are dying it is. fueling the really forces this is what i want to go for them and saying this is what the americans maybe try to buy but that's not enough not of their vision of the group did i read a cable at the time of these bahraini protests about eight months ago. and this year. cable which we have published says that the bahraini government offices came
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into the us embassy and they said look iran is behind these calls for human rights in bahrain and it is it is funneling money and weapons into the rainy and resistance. in the us ambassador writing back to washington said that he saw no evidence that that was true so they keep claiming this is what am i doing this but it. is similar to that at least one cable that was about to meet with one of the government agent goes down atika embassy says that may be receiving funds from the union government in the americans. that's not true they've got nothing to support that do you think this fear mongering about iran is that the primary reason why the west is not some of those they want to behave in a stable if the base in the i mean they want bahrain to be very quiet unstable
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losing been average losing mubarak in egypt under this old is very much you know that there was a telephone call where they had a fight. with obama and when it comes to behind this is that as thing you want to see an evolution on bahrain a few miles from good border which means going to have impact because in saudi arabia that's what this into troops about to take part in the crackdown and killing people detaining people and did they if they can. bloody crackdown with the complete silence all from the international community. they don't want democracy years cut out of what should want to promote democracy in syria and other the font of the world but they don't want democracy and caught up and you have to as people have to chip what you have to share with those government will not accept that to happen. yesterday remember. during the hate. gyptian
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revolution. the head of domestic intelligence. age it was proposed by joseph biden by the state department by hillary clinton to be a sort of replacement for mubarak a compromise figure. and we released many cables about him and his position in relation to israel and the relationship i had states and being so the torture in chief. very quickly after it was a parrot that was not going to succeed. you saw hillary clinton turn around and start to praise. the egyptian revolution and say did in fact the egyptian and tunis revolutions were because of two great american companies. and facebook. you must.
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i mean. we have to be allies that. there's a battle for the narrative. in that evolution is. about ideas as much as they are about you know buddies in the streets and so on and the most improved aspect of this method of negative is to try and that is down that evaluation to being about. that doesn't mean that the don't play an important role in that if we use and they did but the thing is if you. look at you know as a side of the revolution say this is the to evolution everybody is not. and then you please on everything you feel close on how. how much people are willing to use violence to defend themselves to isolate you know what do we use the force. from
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each other and so they went off with a highly educated internet connected youth lead an important role in that if we do and they would for the very tactical reasons they were the symbols of that it would you should because you needed who would love these so you also had this. would still like party and without the drugs and sex but you know you had this wonderful . you know i mean and very inspiring it's sort of a deal there's no aspect of you know a fantasy about it. but if you tell the story you know that's why it's about that is the sort of the egyptian revolution as these wonderful kids good looking well connected kids being into hell yes then you ignoring the would because you would ignoring the bet is you ignoring how much we had to use violence in defense you know we were not sticking to the script that people outside of that if we think that it was going on. he was not just pushing to come american companies he was
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pushing and that it is that is designed to stop that evolution should that it doesn't go deeper than mubarak. you wrote. the square is a legend that would fall if the families of modest stop to believe in it the dream is the alternative to the regime if we let go of it for realistic rationally committed debates that for the right order of priority would perish leave the experts behind and listen to the poets but we are in a revolution but go of the mind and hold on to the dream but we are in a revolution before the course and embrace of the we are in a revolution celebrate the mothers for ideas symbols stories spectacles and dreams nothing is real but their blood and nothing is guaranteed but the. dead pod of the revolution in egypt. has no finish the square. but.
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is the dream finished. there is no articulation of what that dream is it's certainly not. a boring quest in the percentage of democracy with. your nation could go in a war. like the u.k. went without the consent of the populace with. electing the president who promised hope is almost exactly the same as electing the president who didn't promise hope as happened in the us. you know. the dream is. the dream is what makes you work and this is easily and the dream is what makes. democracy that doesn't give rise to. street and occupy london and greek riots and so on. but it's still very much it's still very strong and it still lives there but it is not. it has not been articulated we don't
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have a theory we don't have it so the dream you see it. in moments when you can become political like i managed to do in that article the dream you see in the graffiti and that's why it's been very much tied to the in and to the martyrs i mean we don't just see them as people who died they are immortal. and it is not in their sacrifice but it is in how we see their sacrifice and how we express their sacrifice and how we keep their memory living that we touch what the dream is but i cannot tell you what it is exactly and it is in moments of battles actually that i almost can't touch it like that when we have when we are battling the police there are always these moments of cease fires that don't last for very long i think they're usually the police are feeling the i mean ition and so on and when the police stops fighting we stop medically but in indy's moments you know you find that people have food circles. of fires all over the place because there's fires
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you know people have been using money to cook meals or something like that so these fires become actually like one fire people are sitting around the t.v. suddenly you know street musicians come up out of the blue and you know the people are drinking tea and singing together and so there is a modern state that we are trying to reach and we don't know what it is exactly but this is why we have a good evolution and not just an orderly reform and this is why it doesn't actually matters what the u.s. government once and what he's doing and so on because it's about something that's much deeper and i don't know if we're going to win it this time and i don't know if i'm going to win it in my lifetime but it's enough that i that i you know on an almost weekly basis that i get moments where i can almost touch the view i think in the end of two thousand and ten with z.z. . wave have started tsunami and i think it's going to have it's going to change the
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whole region maybe in very few years stories. going to change those small of the government in the region. which is going to reform. fast and those government too would resist changes i think the tsunami would move the middle move them from their seats those government in the united states or european governments who have relations with debt interest. long strategy into this with those dictators i think they're going to lose a lot of those government was smart enough to have a tradition with the people rather than those dictators i think those would benefit changes i'm very optimistic that just going to happen in our region positive changes in these moments. where they are imprisoned or you're in a situation of being held and. beaten. when you. have to
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maximise elation you do not have control of your physical space you don't have control over your body someone else has your body and you are not at liberty in the most fundamental sense of the word. what do you what do you think about. how do you try to control your feelings to see you through this mode i think if you have a goal if you believed and just off you go. you will come you will overcome those difficulties and you know that. it changes that you are fighting for being there for hundreds of years it's not an easy thing to change to achieve those changes you have to be willing to pay a price and my that price might be your life. and i'm sure those people did
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in the movement and of the type of people who are willing to pay their life to achieve those changes. and it's this last i mean this is my second time to be. to go to prison. and. my fight was this time that i was facing a military prosecutor than a future they couldn't eyes of the legitimacy of the military justice system and so i was sent eventually and we managed to win this major victory and i was sent to a proper measures. and then he still kept me in detention and so there was this moment when i was completely collapsing completely collapsing and i really wanted to be out and attend the birth of my first son. and i couldn't because of that and so. i collapsed and then he was born. three hours leaders my family managed to send me photos of him. and it didn't matter at that
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moment it just didn't matter a little and seen so it's always been. it's always been the experience of being surrounded by love. on a very personal level but also in solidarity you know. i've been privileged and lucky enough that when i go to prison there's a massive massive so that if he if he would in the world and it's usually over very personal fashion did you know the support that you had only outside when you were. mostly through family visits. is an isolation that i that i wouldn't be able to handle and it isn't being put with dangerous criminals in a very crowded cell that they wouldn't be have able to handle but if i was prevented from visits that i don't know how it be able to handle that. that's. going to tell them. you're a father of two i have to you and your father to. tell your children
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to grow up to be an actress like you and me didn't have to put in prison the love you don't have to tell them just by default it's going to happen then move there learn by example yeah i mean my son my daughter know. each protest i just moved him from school because they would have asked the same school from the children of members of. the ruling family and paying high prices may be higher than me because i'm doing my fight and struggle and i'm ready for the reaction but they started growing up seeing the action for a reason they don't know why being did house being. raided at midnight father has been removed from bed and beaten in the front of the. house has been tear gassed maybe more than twenty one year. diff seen things. normal
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children did you don't see their life but they have learnt a lot much older than the age. old of my daughter she's nine years old and my son just become fourteen years of age i mean he used to take part with me in each and every protest since he was five years old and my daughter she never liked the humor of our politics so nothing like that but since i was kidnapped and beaten in front of she become an educator not. an activist and my wife also she's very quiet woman but she's an activist i think the whole family become activists almost more than a thousand members. of. the family did and i mean i think many of them become activists know the whole nation they live in you should have made the whole nation activist imagine buying government stop journalists to get into the country to stop
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the human rights organization to get into the country but most of the people young people become journalists become human rights activists become bloggers becomes internet market opportunities in fact. government of bahrain have made such a young movement which is i think we're going to benefit and the whole arab world will benefit from them and their own evolution as well. you know your son is going to grow up into the new egypt. i had just this thought that like now i need to. bring up my son to hit. in order for him to be to avoid being killed and then i remembered i named enough to. who is a victim of police tortured he died and is there a minute i didn't alexandria two years ago prior to that in relation but his face is means a symbol for that evolution and he did nothing there was you know there was there's
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no way i can protect. it's there's no point in telling in raising my son. to avoid being an activist or even to be cruel to anything like that because it doesn't matter when you have the position the voice is so what and. then it's going to affect you anyway you know injustice is sort and that is going to affect you anyway you cannot get in. you know a good life for your child and this you get into the other child and so. it's not in my hands i can't even do anything about it.
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that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bats and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. when you smell like you took notes this is your. new show the first one to look up new ways to go forward from the truth. as you listen to this who do believe that. if it was national guard down. at the base of the plate you talk a little. bit someone was performed to pull some steam.
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will support school board in these clinics one of the biggest musical yet the middle east because they feel. ashamed you don't live to be a smear. only to see if you. don't follow someone to be mean if the president also wants to let you go it's pretty easy. i remain very much opposed to military intervention i am opposed to it because i fundamentally do not believe it is in the u.s. interest there are several issues at play in venezuela one is the terrible terrible humanitarian state into which venezuela has fallen under the regime of the first of which i wish to know nuclear that alone in my opinion is not
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