first. that alone. is not a justification for an american invasion. after almost seventy years confined to the ecuadorian embassy in london u.k. police dragged wiki leaks editor julian assange from his one safe place him under arrest. not above the law and no hero while the british prime minister and officials praise ecuador for ending. the whistle blowing community branded a dark day for journalism. precent mainstay any journalist can be extradited for prosecution in the united states for having published truthful information about the united states. journalists in. a song now

faces extradition to the united states by the justice department revealed he's wanted for allegedly conspiring to hack a government computer. moscow ten pm just one story throughout the day and that's in a dramatic turn of events after nearly seven years holed up in the ecuadorian embassy in london with the leaks founder julian assange was arrested on thursday morning the whistleblowers now in police custody and potentially facing extradition to the united states where he is wanted on charges of conspiring to hack a government computer video agency capture the moment that a distressed look at the songs was dragged out of the diplomatic compound. think

of. it was the only video agency to film tune in a song being removed from the embassy a number of media outlets initially claimed that the whistleblower left of his own a cold in that he was arrested outside they were forced to change their reporting off our images at least now up following his arrest julian a song was taken to westminster magistrates court where he was convicted of breaking bad in twenty twelve when more of the case reports from central london. paul julian assange just found guilty by a court to the scathing judge inside westminster magistrates court here a little bit earlier on the judge told us saw nj a narcissist to conduct that cost his own self interest and

a song just told they would be sentenced to a later date set up by a video link to the u.k. charges to tree and a saw interest skipping bail back in twenty twelve they carry a month maximum sentence of about twelve months so relatively speaking it's a pretty small fry compared to the looming threat of potential all the charges that he's facing in the u.s. that some more concerning to his legal team we know that the u.s. justice department has unveiled charges of computer hacking against julian assange and there's an expected to be an extradition hearing in relation to that in may as well now as soon as the court proceedings hear what a songes legal team on the wiki expects of us and came out take a listen to what they had to say this sets a dangerous precedent for all media organizations and journalists in europe and

elsewhere around the world this precision means that any journalist can be extradited for prosecution in the united states for having published truthful information about the united states this is what god gave to journalists in our studios jennifer said he said there's a good. we don't want to this to go forward this has to sleep it has to be there to the u.k. government needs to make up for sure that a journalist will never be extradited to united states for publishing activities saatchi to seven years while he's been holed up in the ecuadorian embassy had been saying that he most fear this potential threat of extradition to the usa for the diplomatic cables that he really. as editor of wiki leaks back in two thousand and ten nine years ago today those fears of a staunch being extradited being wanted in the u.s.

base charges they turned into a reality at ten fifteen this morning he was forcibly removed from the dorian embassy waiting spread the last seven years the ecuadorian also artie's hides and allowed the metropolitan police to go inside the embassy where a party treatise on tried to resist arrest and then he was physically bundled up and put in to a police baton and taken into police custody now very soon afterwards we learned that julian assange just political asylum to citizenship had been revoked by the ecuadorian authorities take a listen to what let me read no the president of ecuador had to say about it told. i announce that the discourteous and aggressive behavior of mr julian are shown to give the hostile and threatening declarations of his annoyed organization. on especially the transgression of international treaties to have led the situation to

really kind of boils down to two different issues but it sort of came together over the past eighteen months one is that the ecuadorian authorities didn't like the fact that they said julian assange is interfering in the international affairs in the affairs of other countries through his online activities through his activities as editor of wiki leaks but also there was this kind of domestic disputes bubbling beneath the surface as well last year julian assange was given a list of conditions that he needed to add here to if he wanted to stay on the good side of his the ecuadorian hosts he was told they needed to tidy up after himself clean his bar pay for his own food to pay for certain one three cleanup after his talents which they threaten term leave and subsequently did this relationship really broke down and that's what led to the culmination of this situation at this boiling point this morning when the ecuadorian authorities

allowed the met police to walk in and arrest julian assange on british officials are pretty pleased about what's happened to will welcome the news this morning that the metropolitan police have arrested judy in a song. mr speaker this goes to show that in the united kingdom no one is above the law. but what we've shown today is that no one is above the law julian assange is no hero he's hidden from the truth for years and years but also very courageous decision by president in ecuador to resolve the situation even though there had been attempts to resolve this issue in the background for many years it all came to a. heads with sort of the u.k. ecuador and the us playing this card against julian assigns together i think today we miss the very least of the besieged town of the julian assange.

and we're moving on to perhaps about the front. of an. extradition battle. spoken to the former president of ecuador who granted a song to asylum rafael correia thinks the country's current leadership is out for revenge. i think marino deserves the title of the greatest traitor of history that he could compete with judas the state of ecuador in accordance with international law and guided by its own national pride was simply a ploy to protect the person to whom it is granted asylum and instead they simply gave him up and allowed the british police to enter our embassy just imagine for a moment if it was the ecuadorian police entering the u.s. embassy it was a decision by him or a no if you want revenge for having been accused of corruption or because wiki leaks released documents proving it not to mention other evidence like correspondence bills etc now online so marina is taking revenge on a sound basis and i think the consequences will be even harder because although i

don't want to look ahead the possibility that the u.k. will not extradite julian assange to the united states is very unlikely the united states has confirmed that it's requested the extradition of julian assange he's accused of conspiring to hack a government computer whistleblower chelsea manning the justice department says he could face up to five years in prison. and report. interestingly we have heard from the u.s. president u.s. president donald trump has been asked about the arrest of julian assange and wiki leaks and he gave an interesting answer and that answer is a little bit different than the answer he gave on the campaign trail let's take a listen i know nothing about wiki leaks it's not my thing and i know there is something having to do with julie who saw as i have been seeing would accept and was so on edge and that will be a determination i would imagine mostly by the attorney general who's doing an excellent job so he'll be making

a determination i know nothing really about him it's not my son my deal in life wiki leaks were key leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks it's been amazing what's coming out on wiki leaks leaks the wiki leaks ricky leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks documents wiki leaks i love wiki leaks. it's important to note that essentially you know there is an effort to extradite him now from the u.s. department of justice we have a statement from the eastern district of virginia where they are essentially calling for for the extradition of julian assange for on charges of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion in the indictment alleges that a songe coordinated with chelsea manning and together they tried to crack a password in order to get a defense department information that was classified which wiki leaks eventually published chelsea manning is in the hands of u.s. officials at this time being held and it's important to review what this

information that chelsea manning was able to provide to wiki leaks actually contained let's review some of that information. i'm. not a doctor but if you're going to be. does

the n.s.a. collects any data on the millions of new sort of. wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence or talks like a hot cold server. at this point it's important to note that a number of u.s. intelligence officials have declared that wiki leaks is a basically they're referring to it as a russian the asset and this comes in response to these accusations came in response to wiki leaks publishing the e-mails from the democratic national committee and from hillary clinton's aide john podesta those e-mails were published

now it was widely alleged in the united states that came from hacking those e-mails were acquired through computer hacking however wiki leaks has maintained that they were provided these e-mails from a leaker a leaker provide these provided these e-mails they did not hack in order to acquire that now in addition to a being accused of being a russian asset. has been referred to as being an enemy. by a number of u.s. officials the united states do something to stop mr sausage we're looking into that right now he should be treated as an enemy combatant which should be closed down permanently indecisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty want to do it illegally shoot the son of a this is a man of this grown beyond anything i am aware own ignorance or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing these demons at this point juliana songes not anymore in the ecuadorian embassy and lauded at this point he has been

turned over to you kay officials he is in their custody now the question remains will he be extradited to the united states many observers speculate that if you see ited states he could be facing a lot more than simply this conspiracy of computer intrusion charge that charge only holds the potential for five years in prison it remains to be seen whether or not julian assad will be extradited to the united states where many speculate he could face much more serious charges than simply the computer hacking charge controller see brewing over the arrest i was doing in the studio by our correspondent for more on the case. there is a rest i should say has clearly showcased how much of a divisive figure has become he's got an army of supporters on one hand he's got an army of his own the other one but really with the like humanoid he's won multiple awards for his journalism and that's why some of the most the most vocal bunch i should say were journalists activists and the whistleblower was who have stepped

forward and will boost his support to julian and one of the loudest voices in this quiet was edward snowden a fellow whistleblower who is who was granted asylum and who is still in russia who doesn't seem to be moving him anywhere anytime soon but he has been very vocal along with some other journalists and whistleblowers have a list. images of like with those ambassador inviting the k. secret police into the embassy to drag a publisher of like it on the award winning journalist most of the building are going to end up in the history books and sandra's critics may cheer but this is a dark moment for press freedom the u.s. did not waste any time putting in extradition requests for a sound terrible precedent if journalist a publisher ends up in u.s. jail for iraq war logs and state department cables weiqi leaks is a publisher charges now brought in connection with its material or any attempt to extradite

assange to united states for prosecution under deeply flawed could tell of the espionage act nine hundred seventeen is an attack on all of us. the d.-o. g. cis part of what a science did to justify his prosecution beyond allegedly helping manning get the documents is that he encouraged manning to get more documents for him to publish journalists do this with sources constantly is a criminalization of journalism now if you hours ago i spoke with john kiriakou a veteran whistleblower who felt the full impact of the u.s. judicial machine when it comes to treating men like him what i asked him was why he believes julian assange should be granted a for a fair trial in the states is his answer judge levy brig is a former federal prosecutor. on national security he says for herself she hears my case. judge no master. has ever wanted.

it but i guess it was separate documents that i needed to defend myself. all. i suspect you'll get is. just not be allowed. but if you think it's just journalists or whistleblowers who have been supporting his son she will know we one of the store interest and most vocal supporters of a songe throughout the years of his asylum and now to what were the united nations about when he was holed up in the asylum they demanded in the condemned the u.k. for not allowing for not granting asylum to the freedom of movement he'd been saying that he should definitely be should have definitely been allowed that now they've stepped forward and said that extradition could amount to a human rights violation so if the u.k. was to extradite the son to this could constitute a human rights violation italy and bolivia have already also condemned the handling

of the a sanch case the sort of the man handling of the of the week a leak of the founder of we can leagues and well maybe on a more personal note i should say. pamela anderson who i should i suppose i should describe as is a long distance girlfriend of sorts she also went on a massive twitter round and she did not mince words when it came to describing a world well what she what she hopes to defeat will bring to everyone responsible for what happened to julian astonished today now these are the just some of the supporters of julian assange but of course you have them on the one side of the argument and you have all the bureaucratic and you know the government machine or the u.k. of the united states of some other states as well who have cheered who have cheered and who have praised what happened today but i guess the day to look out to look forward to is may the second. right let's talk about it now with author and political commentator lou rockwell from the website dot com and also steve malzberg

who is a t.v. host and political commentator gentlemen both welcome to the program steve start with you are just posed for both of you if there's one thing that's clear today is that julian of songs is a polarizing figure but steve if you take mr assad his personality out and think about what was released in twenty ten some of those heinous activities done in the public's name what's the wrong that's been done. the wrong that's being done was done by julian a saga i did mostly by chelsea manning who was sentenced to thirty five years in prison is rotting in prison today because she refuses to talk to a federal grand jury but should still be serving that thirty five year sentence in a barack obama didn't commute the sentence wrongfully she would still be in under that sentence you cannot as the indictment alleges in the case of us you cannot commit because spirity to commit computer intrusion which in this case had legibly

he helped manning hack into the defense department of the united states computer system it wasn't just that manning said hey julian assad's wiki leaks here i have these documents or i have these you know computer files whatever here's the password you know not according to the indictment according to the indictment he manning said i need help i can't get the password and that assad helped him get to the d.o.t. files you cannot do that i don't care what it shows we have a country here called the united states of america he compromise sources and methods and diplomats put people at risk you can accept this as a nation you must prosecute these people and subject them to the fullest penalties the law allows. putting troops lives at risk by releasing those cables with it to get the truth out no nobody's life was put in words that's just baloney and of course i think it was a great thing a songe who was

a definitely committed the conspiracy to commit journalism very successfully and i was sorry to see that mr trump who praised him so many times during the two thousand and sixteen election is now claims he never heard of him never reads wiki leaks and i guess he's going to. go ahead and execute him ok we'll see if that's what they plan to the plant life imprisonment in solitary confinement example of thing that went for chelsea manning through. it's an it's this is torture it's a horrible thing and so glad that he that you could got this information out there especially upset about is the you tube of the of the people. the groaners killing people laughing about it yucking it up oh so much fun and then doing what the mafia calls a double tap where they would kill some people then wait till the rescuers came and then they all yukked it up about killing the rescuers so this is we're not supposed to see that kind of thing of course we're not supposed to know what our government

does spite. of them unbelievably evil things that the u.s. government does i'm sorry to say that that's true but the u.s. government is but the way to force not a force for good in the world anymore if it ever was maybe after since george washington was so it's this is a terrible thing julius anja was tortured also when they in the ecuadorian embassy he was released when the when the. when they go four point two billion dollars loan from. the trump signed off on in return for for turning him over they kept him in a little tiny room no exercise not poznan that he was not being fed properly he hadn't yet no one on the telephone personal communication no internet for a very long time this little tiny room when you saw him today being pulled out by the british secret police there was quite something terrible to say yes just to be clear that yes the u.n. panel said that he was a tragedy to tell you the u.k.

government would dispute that and say he was there as a. state given well lou outlined that why do you say that it doesn't matter what was revealed when you just heard that. well first of all. very easy for him to sit there and say the u.s. government is evil the soldiers were evil the soldiers were laughing have you ever worn a uniform sir let's let first i'd like to see every single thing that was revealed put in context what was happening over here to debate what was revealed we're here to debate did this man commit a crime and to defend chelsea manning. you're saying it's acceptable for soldiers to illegally hack in to the defense department of the united states and reveal c. classified information i mean that's just insane if you can't run a country that way you can't run a world that way so out chelsea manning is that despicable criminals of the us should be running the world and so. and if and if in fact

julius did what the united states government said he did he too now no one's talking about the death penalty and no one saw king even about life in prison and right now the indictment under the charges he faces that would be five years in prison i love the fact that my counterpart sits there and just you know says whatever he wants without any facts the m.f.f. the loan you have no facts so that he wasn't tortured in the embassy somebody is tortured he's free to leave i woulda left a long time ago under the conditions you're putting forth he's never claimed he was tortured or that embassy where do you get that i love this everybody is evil except the bad guys in your world there are good guys it's all topsy turvy you even people who are the biggest supporters of mr soames are going to find it a bit of a stretch to think that if he does get extra talented to the u.s. it's only going to be on the technical matter of hacking a computer when people at the n.s.a. and some of the mandarins on capitol hill about seventy has to gestate almost a mind to charge him with once he's on u.s. soil. it was after me or that was that was from lou i mean

it's going to be hard stretch for people to think it's only going to be the computer hacking charge once he gets back on u.s. soil and of course they're going to keep him in prison for the rest of his life and maybe they will execute him the cia director at the time that this all happened advocated executing him. is it possible they're going to execute him i think it's very possible certainly going to keep him in one of these supermax prisons where you see no other person where you're kept in solitary confinement which is a form of torture and it's it's a horrific horrific form of punishment so the u.s. plans to step on him and to make sure that try to make sure that nobody else ever does would like you leaks and julian a son john assigns is a great man and. i think it's horrible that the british are cooperating in this i guess they're going to ship them out to the u.s. . only in may when they have the court hearing already the allegedly impartial

judge has some horrible remarks to make today about his son so in the museum to be sent over and he's going to be punished it's not going to be five years it's going to be the rest of his life and very few people can stand this kind of solitary confinement julian chelsea manning was able to snag other but most people can't stand it that's why there's so many suicides in u.s. prisons steve julian a song john also i was snowed in i suppose in the court of public opinion this is more of a trial about press freedom and the right to blow the whistle on wrongdoing and high agencies office and incorporation so however this plays out whatever happens to julian assange could dictate how people feel about lifting the lid on serious wrongdoing in future. well i want to go back i want to dress up but go back to what the other guest said a while ago about journalists do all this all the time you know saying get me more get me more journal if someone from the new york times or the washington post or

any media outlet here in this country helped someone break in to to somewhere to get information or to hack into a computer they'd be prosecuted you can't do that that's not being a journalist that's being a criminal again if manning had handed them to that would be a different story this has nothing to do with journalism and again as far as whistleblowers whistleblowers who have witnessed something that's fine and if you have information that's fine if you want to put yourself at risk i mean there's always a risk you can't do something illegal to blow a whistle and if you do you're run the you run the risk of being prosecuted and we again you can not put america's security at risk in the name of being a whistleblower that's that's treason and if it's if it's what manning did and many got off very easy thanks to president obama who should be ashamed of itself but

again this quote and doom oh they're going to step on i'm going to put him in jail for life in solitary suicides i mean my gosh and the guy hasn't even been brought here yet he hasn't seen the charges get to have a trial very quickly lou julian assange. he was wanted for questioning on sexual assault and rape allegations by what measure is the journalism. well that of course those charges have been dropped and i don't believe they were true to begin with or they were then not true as stated i don't believe the prosecutors in the us case either we'll see what they have to say one season the custody in the us but it's going to be they're going to have much more to many more charges to make against him and they're going to hang we're going to hang many things around his neck and i think he's a hero he's a defender of the first amendment by the way he's not an american design matter he's an australian but of course they're treating him like he's an american and that they're going to do all kinds of bad things or terrible but it's

a terrible terrible book black day. steve malzberg thanks for your time this evening and i'll say thank you thank you for now back in two thousand and twelve joining us on hosted an interview in discussion series on coming up next we've got another episode of the whistleblowers show with former guantanamo detainee and rights advocate mohsin baghdad also seem correct she who works with communities impacted by the war on terror. i mean julian assange. it is true what he makes of expose the world secrets these documents belong the united states government being attacked by the powerful united states strongly condemn this i question why do people illegally should just go five hundred days now i being detained without charge but that hasn't stopped by. today we are on a quest for revolutionary ideas to can change the world tomorrow or. this week

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