the book which i presented at that. time i made it through a time to think and. read are you even i am in england under house arrest now for five hundred days friday on that day so he's no charge ok are you ready to see where i may hope that i was he might only say yeah. i got. spanish you know ok so let's try to see if we can do that are you ready. action what is the ecuadorian perspective on the united states the sort of long perspective of u.s. u.s. involvement i'm not asking for a caricature of the united states but. what dorian people think about the united states and its involvement in latin america and in ecuador. more you say well as ever says the only country that can be sure never to have

a coup d'etat is the united states because it hasn't got a us embassy. in any event i'd like to say one of the reasons that led to police discontent like it was the fact that we cut all the funding the us embassy provided to the police. for and even a year after we took office we took a while to correct this before there were whole police units key units fully funded by the us embassy whose offices in command were chosen by the us ambassador and paid by the us and so we have increased considerably the police's pay how ever as their salaries were coming from somewhere else they didn't even notice we did away with all that there are some who still long for those times which will never come back thought out relating to the us ours has always been a relationship based on affection and friendship got us in the framework of mutual

respect and seventy that i lived in the us for four years have two academic degrees from there i love and admire the american people a great deal your believe me the last thing i be is anti american. i will always call a spade a spade and if there are international u.s. policies that are detrimental to our country or even to that of latin america i will denounce them strongly and i will never ever allow my country's sovereignty to be affected by them. yourself. i mean they made by. your government close the u.s. space mountain. and you tell me why you decided to close this place because they said that here you know as it would you accept having a foreign base set up in your country julian see you. see that there in any case

and see you know if the matter is as simple as i once said you know evening ok it's not a problem to set up a u.s. base in ecuador but if we can give the go ahead as long as we are granted permission set up an ecuadorian military base in miami there is no one issue i think they should agree. are you having a lot of fun with the. i'm glad to hear that you need to. present. the president. why did you want us to release all the cables. we have nothing to hide your wiki leaks have made us stronger as the main accusations made by the american embassy due to our excessive nationalism and defense of the soviet c. of the ecuadorian government imports you put look at indeed we are nationalists and

indeed we do defend the soviet t. of our country on the other hand. a lot about the goals that the national media pursue you you know about the power groups who seek help and report to foreign embassies a bang up we have absolutely nothing to fear let them publish everything they have about the ecuadorian government but you will see how many things about those who oppose the civil revolution in ecuador will come to light things to do with opportunism betrayal and being self-serving and acquire. subsequently you kicked out the u.s. ambassador to ecuador as a result of which he reads publication of cables why did you kick her out it's seems to me it would be easier to go whoa i have these cables from this ambassador i know how she thinks isn't it better to keep the devil you know. she was told

this filled with our against she said she had nothing to say that she was a woman totally against our government a woman of extreme right wing views he still lived in the cold war the one nine hundred sixty s. and what broke the camel's back the last straw was wiki leaks where she wrote her own ecuadorian contacts told her that the chief of the national police was corrupt and that surely i had given him that post knowing he was corrupt so that i could control him say john the lady ambassador was called and asked to give an explanation for the loftiness insolence imperial as she puts on that she said she had nothing to account for and as we hear respects our country we threw around. the test and you are good i say like assuming i'd like to say some months ago after almost a year of inquiry commander hurtado that accused in that wiki leaks cable by the

ambassador was found not guilty of all charges you know saying this shows once again how ill intentioned u.s. officials due to their ill will towards progressive governments that are seeking change my report on anything groundless that based purely on rumors and gossip provided by their contacts who are usually people in opposition to our government to miss this will contact i cannot a moment that's on her part she taught how to hold the atmosphere. president korea had did you find the trion is to deal with they are a big powerful country is are you swapping one devil for another in in doing with the trying to. but you know whether or not i'm a commodity you know her still we don't work with devils at the same venue one comes up to us as a devil we simply tell him no thank you or secondly you can see

a bit of the selling out the snobbery that even the neocolonialism of our elite media when sixty percent of our trade in the bulk of the investment battle concentrated in the us and we were left with no money to move our economy forward it wasn't an issue now that we are the country where most of the chinese investment in the region takes place is suddenly become an issue because the chinese on that talk already looking because they don't have a lot of eyes they're called devils now enough of that you know if even the united states itself is being financed by china you know how wonderful it is that if funds ecuador you know this wonderful that it provides funds for oil extraction mining hydroelectric power stations then we are not only getting chinese funding also attracting investment from russia brazil we have expanded our markets and our

funding sources however there are people who are born with a yoke attached to the neck and who prefer to go on with that level of dependency that's it president korea as you know for many years. i have been fighting a fight for freedom of expression. for the right for people to communicate for the right to publish true information how is it that your reforms will not lead to the suppression of true information where no no no when i'm with julianne but inside. the world julian you are a good example of what the press is like as well as these associations like the into american press association which is simply an association of newspapers in latin america many books have been written about your wiki leaks in latin america

the last one by two argentinian authors featuring a country by country analysis and in the case of ecuador it shows how in a shameless way the media did not publish those cables or news which affected them for instance disputes amongst information and news groups in the end to avoid being discredited they reach an agreement not to air their dirty linen in public i will read you one of the wiki leaks documents the ecuadorian press never published we don't know but get a fact the press feels free to criticize the government and yet it is unable to do so with a fugitive banker and his family business is speaks volumes about where power resides in ecuador or poorly of course we can leaks these other messages are made public by wiki leaks published by the ecuadorian press. this is just for you to see what we face in ecuador in latin america yeah we believe my dear julian so the only

things that should be protected against information sharing of freedom of speech and the comments are those set in the international treaties. in the american convention on human rights the honor and the reputation of people and the safety of people and the state the local naca the rest the more people find out about it the better. but according to you have voiced your fear recurrent in journalists of good faith but these are stereotypical fears that the state may restrict freedom of speech in the me this is hardly ever seen in latin america so i see these are just myths please bear in mind here the media power was and it probably is in the greater here than the political power. you put i mean in fact it usually has self-serving political economic social power and above all the informative power this political moment. is already tell. and it is the big

voters the powerful legislators see the mighty judges the have set the media agenda this this way they have subdued governments presidents and courts. stop a train this image of poor and courageous journalists the same like media trying to tell the truth and tyrants autocrats and dictators trying to hinder that when it isn't true is the other way round the governments trying to do something for the majority of the people are persecuted by journalists who think that by having a pen and a microphone they can direct even their resentment against you so what they often insult and slander out of sheer dislike what they mean these are mass media serving someone's private interests. it's not about anti bacteria it's at least let the world know about what happens in latin america maybe when i took office there were

seven national t.v. channels there wasn't state owned television but they were all private and five of them belong to bankers. yes ear canal is that then it was shown nationality not as you can imagine if i wanted to take measures against banking in order to prevent for instance the crisis and the abuses which are now taking place in europe ok. especially in spain i had to face a merciless t.v. campaign aimed at defending their interests the good of the owners of these t.v. networks who were the bank is how do you get there's no food ourselves let's get rid of these stereotypes depicting wicked governments get us a keating saying like in courageous journalists the news outlets often. use the other way around what you had no money to buy last medicine he had not merely colleagues. they communicate she on foot it went they meant they had to get over these people disguised as journalists trying to do politics to destabilize other

governments so the new change takes place in our region not for fear of losing the power they have always flaunted about. him but i want a. president correct i agree with your market description of the media it worked with like the god in new york times and jewish biegel have censored al material against al to protect. all the dogs like to me from the ukraine who was hiding her wealth in london or big corrupt italian oil companies operating in kazakhstan we have proof of this because we know what the original document contains and we can see what they printed and we can see what they have have removed but it's seems to me that the correct approach to deal with it is to break them up. or to

make it so it is very easy for publishers to enter in to the market. shouldn't you create a system that protects. of entry into the publishing market so that small publishers. and individuals are protected and have no regulation and that these bigger publishers are broken up or are regulated if you look at them not that the masses what we are trying to do julian for over two years we've had this debate about a new communications law aimed at segmenting the radio and television industry that we only want to have all radio and television broadcasters to be private and profit making another third should be nonprofit and belong to the community and the remaining should be state owned not run just by central government also by local

authorities municipalities and parochial bodies when you see people who have not particularly the process is taken two years in all this despite the fact that this order is part of the constitution approved by voting in two thousand and eight despite the fact that the order was up held by the ecuadorian people during last year's referendum nevertheless this new law has been systematically blocked by the big media outlets to pay to it as the guy kill or while the only thing we are trying to do is to make information and social communication and ownership of the media more democratic voice but clearly we face position on the part of the media owners and their lobbyists in the ecuadorian political arena. i spoke to the president of to musea recently. and i asked him was he surprised about how little power

a president has to change things. have you found me the second here said that he said it at that really there was a good melody and the look they have tried to demonize even the concepts of political leadership was one of the biggest crises in latin america during the one nine hundred ninety s. at the beginning of this century during the long and neo liberal night that was the crisis of leadership what is leadership the ability to influence others that is that the past now you can have good leadership using this ability to serve others and bad leadership sadly we have seen a lot of this in latin america the kind of leaders that take advantage of others to pursue their own interests i think leadership if you can is paramount even more so during times of change my so in process can you envisage the u.s. independence without the great leaders behind it can you envisage the reconstruction of year of after world war two without the great leaders behind it

and art in order to oppose these new changes was about by a strong and good leaders they now denounce leadership as tyranny. and evil poorly i will model. the president. then this in hero and this kind of leadership is all the more important julian please let me finish the idea when we are not managing a system in latin america and in ecuador in particular we are not managing the system but changing it because the one we had for centuries it was a total failure because of it we have turned into a region with the biggest inequality in the world a region riddled with poverty and misery having all it takes to be the most prosperous in the universe it isn't like in the us what's the difference between a republican and a democrat i believe there is a far greater difference between what i think in the morning and what i think in the afternoon the maturing parties. and it's only because they are just managing

the system i get them. here we are changing the system and you need leadership digital democratic power in order to change the governance structures and institutions in our country for the benefit of the majority and then i do my duty as it's seems to me that president obama. is unable to control these vast forces that are around him isn't this true for all leadership and how is it that you have been able to change so much in ecuador is that. a sign of a times is it your personal leadership is it your party what is the what is the force that is permitting you to do something that barack obama is not able to do. first address your last question compromise that consensus is something desirable

but it's not an end in itself but i mean to me it would be dead easy to agree to this compromise to this consensus giving up saving in and it will make a lot of people happy but it wouldn't change anything it's absolute that they would please above all the powers that be in this country that everything will remain the same way sometimes it is impossible to reach a consensus sometimes it is essential to deal with things corruption we have to deal with it that abuse of power we have to tackle it lying we have to tackle it i mean social vices such as these so damaging to our society we cannot allow but i met a basis. look at secular what has been achieved in ecuador isn't down to me it would be wrong to think like that it's people who change it's countries that change not just because of their leader the leader might be the coordinator of this change but by and large it's happening because of the will and determination of the nation

what led us to power was the outrage of all the ecuadorian people put on automatic and i think this is exactly what the us people need i think president obama to make real changes in that country young this outrage this occupy wall street movement this demonstration by the ordinary citizens against the system so it needs to be gone stronger more organic more permanent so a bomber that could make the necessary changes to the american system get a kid as he told me. i want to look at where you think ecuador is going in the long term and where south america is going in the long term. it seems to some degree that there's a lot of good things you know there's greater integration in south america the standards of living have been increased the amount of influence that the united states and other countries outside latin american apply to it is also decreasing

but where do you think it's going in ten years twenty years. in the link when you said the u.s. influence is steadily decreasing and as good a moment as why we have stated the latin america is changing from the washington consensus so the consensus without washington. maybe with us and for a consensus consensus we found washington exactly ok. if there were no and this is great as the policies dictated by the u.s. had nothing to do with our needs in latin america but were rather good to the interests of those countries they were cornered into interests in particular if you make an analysis of the economic policy you think modesty apart i know something about it or at times the policies could have been good or bad but they all had

a common feature they all catered to the interests of the big capital and above all financial capital and this luckily is changing what they want i have a great deal of hope but i am very realistic although i know we have made significant progress there is still a long way to go i know that our achievements can be rolled back i know that if we get the same people we used to have ruling our countries everything could go back to what it used to be but we are optimistic at a time when we have to me stress we believe latin america is changing and if we keep on going down that path of change the change will gain momentum not is not just a time of change we are witnessing a change of pox in latin america. in history we have to go on with these policies to introduce economic policies where society rules the market and not the other way around when society life and people turn into merchandise of previous centuries

respecting our indigenous peoples and afro do this latin america will have a great future and it is the region of the future we have everything it takes to be the most prosperous region in the future if we haven't achieved it yet but i say let it pass because of bad leaders bad policies and bad governments i see your problem and this is what is changing in our america here in the us here so look at that. thank you president correa. is really a pleasure to meet you julian at least in this way and cheer up welcome to the club of the persecuted. thank you. take care. thank you. that's something we have to avoid every day that it's.

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it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now. we're watching closely watching the hawks. breaks down. it'll. feel somewhat like it's a more it's this edition. of the first one to open my eyes to go forward from the hundreds. i chose in this four door to class. thing i think it was national guard coming up.

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world markets closed thirty percent some with four hundred to five hundred three first circuit first second and fifth when rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars ai industrial park but don't let the numbers overrule. the only number you need to remember in one one business showed you know ford commits one and only. who. came here where did you work before you came here when you live. in many us states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor the death penalty there are some people because of what they did have given up the right to live among us some even proven. true and how many more

years is it going to take before we as a society realize that this is not working and we actually do something about. geysers financial life until the relatives. close to these if this is a central plank support dying a polygamist kind of problem right now it's a stop to. her. son after over seventy years confined to the ecuadorian embassy in london u.k. police dragged wiki leaks. from his one safe haven and place him under arrest. not above the law and no hero while the british prime minister and officials praise ecuador for ending us on his asylum whistle blowing community branded

a dog day for journalism. precent mainstay any journalist can be extradited for prosecution in the united states for having published truthful information about the united states.