the world reacts as wiki leaks founder julian assange faces charges both in the u.k. and the u.s. with many expressing concern that a dangerous precedent has been set by his arrest and he leaks i don't hear in chief to tell us the repercussions. this is a threat to journalists and journalists if we don't with the media world. also this hour germany approves of arms exports just saudi arabia despite the current ban that's according to german media reports. and a military coup sudan's president arrested an emergency rule imposed almost space of twenty four hours we'll look at the roots of the northeast african countries internal conflict.

a very warm welcome to the program from all of us here at our church here in moscow thanks for joining us this hour. from human rights organizations to politicians there's been reaction across the globe to the arrest of wiki leaks co founder julian assange on thursday police officers carried the whistleblower out of his refuge in london's ecuadorian embassy after his asylum was revoked. more on how the arrest has been perceived internationally. killing a songes arrest has been received by outrage and that's clear from worldwide reaction that still coming in now at a pace that is global solidarity and global voices standing with the song for all his past revelations many people say that his work encouraged people to ask what the most prominent political figures can be hiding and the american civil liberties

union that's an organization that defends human rights has faced lee condemned songes arrest any prosecution by the united states of mr. publishing operations would be unprecedented and you should open the door to criminal investigations of other news organizations moreover prosecuting a foreign publisher for violating u.s. secrecy laws was searched am especially dangerous precedent for u.s. journalists who routinely violate foreign secrecy laws to deliver information vital to the public's interest this is also being reiterated by human rights watch and they say that gymnast might now think twice before publishing news of public importance or government scrutiny but if we ten are thoughts now to the trumpet ministrations open hostility to mainstream media the general counsel of human rights watch say that this behavior and this outlook creates

a dangerous environment and best bit of gin this all over the world some say it's a bit of a stretch to call a function a journalist why is that an issue why is that up for debate. well that's quite a bill a real line really between what constitutes as a journalist a publisher or a whistleblower but it seems that it doesn't matter whichever way you look at it in this particular case because this whole situation will be regarded as questioning the freedom of speech and verifying factual information you know if you're either a journalist or a whistleblower but from his supporters in the journalism world on the form and. they can try to edward snowden they say it's a dark moment for press freedom images of what doors and buses are inviting the case secret police into the embassy to drag a publisher off like it's on the award winning journalist of the building are going to end up in the history books critics may cheer but this is a dark moment for president them weekly leaks is a publisher charges now abroad in connection with its material or any attempt to

extradite assange to united states for prosecution under the deeply flawed could you know of the espionage act one thousand nine hundred seventeen is an attack on all of us the dio jesus part of what a science did to just defy his prosecution beyond allegedly helping manning get the documents is that he encouraged manning to get more documents for him to publish journalists do this with sources constantly is a criminalization of journalism there is also a poet school science all of this of course the k. prime minister treason may might find this is a breather to bret's it at the moment we head to resume a speaking in the house of commons praising the met police force yesterday saying no one's above the law however this was strongly opposed by the. position party saying a songe should not be extradited to the united states and that this was all about exposing the us military atrocities in iraq and afghanistan let's take a listen now to both the local and international starts all of this. this whole

story with the persecution and hounding with establishing inhumane living conditions is consigning to oblivion the rights of the freedom of speech and disseminating information that is something that it's absolute if you think that i mean that we are talking about that. war. abuses and violation of human and international right. we absolutely reject the no limit to julian assange just naturalization and the handover of this australian journalist to the united kingdom in a shameful act surrendering our sovereignty the extradition of julian assange is to the us for exposing evidence of atrocities in iraq and afghanistan should be opposed by the british government on thursday we saw julian assange being forced out of the ecuadorian embassy looking reeses be stressed and he was essentially being carried into that place upon which was waiting for him outside this was

offset abruptly revoked his asylum we know that relations between the ecuadorian presidents and the son has been to terry for a long time since he came into power asuncion now faces an extradition hearing on the second of may that will be via video link so the next challenge for him is this next legal action battle but one thing's for sure though this expulsion and the potential consequences has gone as outcry a world wide guarding the issue of freedom speech and human rights. for more on this we're now joined live by craig murry former ambassador and human rights advocate welcome to the program now of course so that wasn't aware of the u.s. extradition request do you barbara. no obviously they're lying. we were all very aware of the u.s. extradition request and. chelsea manning is currently in jail in the united states for the fusing to testify before. a grand jury on the subject so

plainly this is a pathetic lie god they could do it. in so why exactly make that lie what were they trying to achieve with that. but i think you know obviously what a president of a know has done there's a shameful and treacherous thing to do. and it will of course be particularly unpopular with the ecuadorian people to hand over. the sons to be denied to states when the united states has done so much to impoverish and humiliate left in american countries over decades so he's trying to make out he didn't know who he was handing him over to the actions of united states. it's a blatant lie and transparent on. hillary clinton has joked about songes arrest saying he might be the only foreigner that the trump administration would welcome to the us what's your reaction to that joke. where hillary clinton of course.

formed of making jokes about people being killed or people's misfortune in general . she's not a person with any empathy or compassion or any interest at all the human rights or anything except her own interests so it doesn't surprise me coming from hillary clinton but she's a very contemptible person and i don't waste too much time thinking about her. for the last two days we've seen that western media has been talking a lot about behavior at the embassy from late night skate boarding to fights with security workers is there a feeling at all that they're trying to justify or revoking his asylum. yes i mean just plainly has been coordinated between the best use of the ecuadorians and the americans and the ecuadorian side of it has been to put out this entire series of. quite ludicrous lies about julian assange just behavior in the embassy none of

which are true at all so it doesn't it doesn't surprise me it's very sad to see a government like the ecuadorian government behaving in this way but it's part of a. concerted campaign to distract the public from what this is really about and this is really about extraditing something for publishing evidence of american war crimes and they want us to be talking about anything except talking about the american war crimes which being the signage and wiki leaks and chelsea manning the field. exactly a stange is now facing extradition to the u.s. and a five year sentence for conspiracy to commit computer intrusion so far nothing related to the trump russia investigation but do you think that's likely to change if you finally does step foot on american soil. i certainly don't think they'll be anything relating to the russian investigators because there was no connection between russia and we could leaks and no connection between wiki leaks and the

trump campaign so i certainly don't expect extra charges along those lines because there's nothing to be charged for what i do think however is that probably relating back again to the chelsea manning of relations will be a much tougher charge of espionage coming along carrying a potential life sentence thought or even potentially a death penalty. and what's happening here is something very dishonest. and arguably illegal in the united states is going for a comparatively soft charge of conspiracy. only a five year sentence with the hope that will. through the extradition procedures and be accepted as reasonable by a british court but actually once they get their hands on him. every intention of charging him with something much more severe such as espionage and i think we saw.

in the house of commons a wink by saying he could neither confirm nor deny that was the case in order to apply and to question from a tour of the m.p. so plainly a dishonest game is being played with the courts here about the charges that julian would eventually face were he to be extradited to the united states and i thought his lawyer has already said that she's going to fight the extradition request how likely do you think it is that they'll win that fight. it's going to be an extremely important fight because when you think about it what the americans are claiming here is that a journalist cannot publish a leaked government document that would be a tremendous blow to media if the tim none talk about a member in the science at no time in the united states during this process. so what they're saying is that any journalist anywhere near entire world who publishes a leaked american. government document can be extradited to the united states and

tried even the big never been there so this is a very very important fight it's a fight. on principles which i think the british courts will be forced to take into account in this fight we have absolutely must win. craig murry former ambassador and human rights act activist thank you so much for your time and your comments. thank you. journalist and wiki leaks supporter cassandra fairbanks he was one of the last reporters to visit at the embassy has revealed details about his final days there. well at that point things were really bad visited previously and it was friendly and welcoming and it was slowly greeting each visit and this time it was pretty openly hostile he got into a huge fight with the ecuadorian baster after they locked me in a room a heavily surveilled room and tried to force us to have a meeting and there they wanted to search him and searches lawyer before they could

come meet with me none of these things that ever happened before in to any guest not just me in almost seven years he's been there he wanted to meet with me so that he could report on the illegal treatment that he was being you know met with at the embassy at the hands of the embassy and he is the ambassador of working with the u.s. government and said that they were conspiring with the us against him and these are the people who are supposed to be giving him asylum he is released some keys potentially for a dead man's switch and. i think that if he's not treated well there could be more shoes to drop i think he is the biggest hero of freedom of press and i think that everybody needs to get on board. supporters of former wiki leaks chief have been showing their solidarity with julian assange both in the u.k. and stateside in washington d.c. they gathered outside the british embassy to decrying his possible extradition to the us london people gathered outside the westminster court was convicted.

and speaking of a soldier's possible extradition to the u.s. and has been looking at the official reaction from washington and the potential charges could face. u.s. president donald trump has been asked about the arrest of julian assange and wiki leaks and he gave an interesting answer and that answer is a little bit different than the answer he gave on the campaign trail let's take a listen i know nothing about wiki leaks it's not my thing and i know there is something having to do with julie who saw as i have been seeing would accept and was so on edge and that will be a determination i would imagine mostly by the attorney general who's doing an excellent job so he'll be making a determination i know nothing really about him it's not my son my deal in life wiki leaks were key leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks it's been amazing what's coming out on wiki leaks the wiki leaks should be leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki

leaks and wiki leaks documents wiki leaks i love wiki leaks. it's important to note that essentially you know assad there is an effort to extradite him now from the u.s. department of justice we have a statement from the eastern district of virginia where they are essentially calling for for the extradition of julian assange for on charges of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion in the indictment alleges that a songe coordinated with chelsea manning and together they tried to crack a password in order to get a defense department information that was classified which wiki leaks eventually published chelsea manning is in the hands of u.s. officials at this time being held and it's important to review what this information that chelsea manning was able to provide to wiki leaks actually contained let's review some of that information.

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the n.s.a. collect any data the millions of new sort of. wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence or talks like a hot cold server. at this point it's important to note that a number of u.s. intelligence officials have declared that wiki leaks is a basically they referring to it as a russian the asset and this comes in response to these accusations came in response to wiki leaks publishing the e-mails from the democratic national committee and from hillary clinton's aide john podesta those e-mails were published now it was widely alleged in the united states that came from hacking those e-mails were acquired through computer hacking however wiki leaks has maintained that they were provided these e-mails from a leaker

a leaker provide these provided these e-mails they did not hack in order to acquire them now in addition to a being accused of being a russian asset assad has been referred to as being an enemy by a number of u.s. officials the united states do something to stop mr so. we're looking into that right now and he should be treated as an enemy combatant which he really should be closed down permanently and decisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be and i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty want to do it illegally shoot the son of a this is a man of this cumber yun anything i'm aware on ignorance or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing these demons at this point juliana songes not anymore in the ecuadorian embassy and london at this point he has been turned over to you kay officials he is in their custody now the question remains will he be extradited to the united states many observers speculate that if he

comes to the united states he could be facing a lot more than simply this conspiracy of computer intrusion charge that charge only holds the potential for five years in prison so it remains to be seen whether or not julian assad will be extradited to the united states where many speculate he could face much more serious charges than simply the computer hacking charge. most people think just stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand down the news business is just the dance the right questions and the right answer.

questions. there are millions of people in america and around the world who are better educated than ray dahlia but in order to succeed on wall street you need to complete lack of empathy this is driven in study after study after study re dahlia has no consideration about the effect he's having of society and the rock the ruination of the law except he's contributing to my being a leak on the system which is hedge fund that's a lack of empathy and there that takes a certain kind of myopia and stupidity to work yourself into that state. welcome back germany has a lot of arms exports to some countries in the yemeni war that's according to media

who have reportedly obtained documents from a government meeting peter all reports. that germany has a bond on selling weapons to saudi arabia but what we all hearing is that a number of companies have been able to circumvent the various different means if we look at the. base. transport equipment company they specialize in trailer technology and equipment they've been sending their stuff to france france doesn't have a ban on sending weapons to saudi arabia they've been going from france. to saudi a similar things been happening with the cobra radar tillery targeting systems they've been sent to the united arab emirates along with software updates for the for that system as well eventually reaching the the war in yemen and reaching saudi arabian military hands now opposition figures here in germany as you would imagine outraged at this seems like the government can't wait when it comes to producing

weapons for the human who were alliance in light of the latest attacks and yemeni school children. shameless killing of jamal khashoggi inside the saudi consulate in istanbul prompted berlin to well cancel weapons sales to saudi arabia in fact the deal making sure that there would be no more deal was extended at the end of last month by the german government. and it's our flag and we demand that the participating company since this time the export ban to saudi arabia and the united everett and a very serious this period when dealing with their contract practice and the federal government will also commit to not using these jointly produced products in yemen. or there is a lot of pressure on germany from the likes of france and the united kingdom for berlin to start selling arms to saudi arabia again the argument from the british

side is that if we stop selling weapons to the kingdom of saudi arabia we would lose influence over twelve perhaps trying to get them to move away from the conflict in yemen it's interesting that they would try and move away from that conflict by selling them more weapons particularly well what we're hearing from the likes of human rights watch is this ban by germany is the right way to go in trying to help the embattled people of yemen what we have at the moment is a situation where there's thousands perhaps hundreds of thousands of people in dire need of food clean water and aid and not so much in need of billions of dollars worth of weapons being sold to those that are going to use them against them. sudan's president has been ousted by the country's military following months of protests the defense minister announced a newly formed military council will be put in charge in the next two years local journalists i mean has more. as serious of the ministration and by this statement

of the letter meant i want to declare the transition very often in these government for two years that his statement came as a result for the demonstration started and december encouraged to by the security forces dealt with that demonstration by violence which goes i corroding to the human rights organisation and the medical committee you sit on. for more than forty people dead great number more than three million sudanese people gather around the head roger of the military marine is said on asking for the phone down although bashir ridging which controls more than thirty years now in khartoum street a great number maybe reach for five million be able sort of wait for the fall down on the rigi and asking for a good transition period incident. when news of the marble shares a rest came people took to the streets to celebrate over the mood of the protesters

quickly changed as more and gusty explained. the dictates of fuld's and the people were draw it's happy empowered optimistic it's it's always the same how many times have we seen this happen this decade revolution in africa in the middle east the dictator. was removed by the military which sided with the people sort of what the militant must release the military takes full responsibility for changing the entire regime for a transitional period of two years in which the government would be handled by the armed forces. now you could understand why people are a bit miffed they rebelled risked everything to get rid of

a dictator for freedom for democracy and what they go to the end is a military regime what has been just stated is frost's a coup and it is not acceptable they are recycling the faces and this will return us to where we have been on the other hand consider how much worse it could have been temporary military rule may just have been the lesser of two evils but these revolutions rarely and well. you may recognize this picture it's from a different era most of the need is either deposed in exile or dead countries no better off.

a grim even depressing picture yet it seems people just don't learn from the past earlier this week we heard the same tired cool's from the u.k. u.s. norway calls for regime change. the demand for political change from the

courageous and resilient people of sudan is becoming ever clear and more powerful the sudanese people are demanding a transition to a political system that is inclusive and has greater legitimacy there is a reason they wanted him gone out so much because he's a dictator they have plenty of tyrannical friends no because mr bashir like solly and gadhafi before him made inroads with the west's rivals boosted relations trade military and economic cooperation with china russia iran. which i think if you get any air of iranian conflict will harm the whole region arrow counter ease and iran itself neither iran nor the arabs would leave the region i suppose the burst option is to kill exist and deal with the problems that we have through dialogue and negotiations it is better than using guns and that it

would appear was an unforgivable sin the united states considers africa its own and doesn't want anyone else on its tough unfortunately billions upon billions of us taxpayer dollars have not achieved this are effects they have not prevented other powers such as china and russia from taking advantage of african states increase their own power and influence from now on the united states will not tolerate this longstanding pattern of it without effect to be fair mr bolton you hardly helped years of u.s. sanctions of civil war atrocities and the split up of the country have left their mark so don is a traumatized nation expecting democracy and magical reforms overnight is well it was never going to happen that's

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