another division opens up in the united states this time of julian assange with some rights groups and even a twenty twenty presidential contender offering support while others demand the swift extradition trial of the now arrested whistleblower. going back to united states because boston strong response which was the message that we're getting that the american people are getting by what's happened here today is you know be quiet toed the line otherwise there will be consequences. germany approves arms exports to saudi arabia despite its current ban that's according to german media reports. and a military coup see sudan's president arrested and emergency rule imposed in the space of just twenty four hours we look at the roots of the northeast african country's

internal conflict. thanks for joining us here on r.t. international. since the rest of the wiki leaks co-founder julian assange at london's ecuadorian embassy on the day the focus is turned to his potential extradition to the united states that's because for years i was at the helm of a website that revealed damaging classified information about washington and its intelligence services. and has more on how the rest is being perceived on the other side of the atlantic. there have been a number of voices that have spoken up against the possible extradition of julian assad and warning about the impact it could have on civil liberties now among those voices was a congresswoman from a whole wide name is tossing gabbert and in addition to being

a congresswoman she is also a presidential contender in two thousand and twenty she spoke up saying that the possible chill effect and impact on american civil liberties from this case would not be small this is a threat to journalists but it's also something that threatens every american because the message that we're getting that the american people are getting by what's happened here today is you know be quiet so the line otherwise there will be consequences now the american civil liberties union is one of the oldest civil rights and civic freedom organizations in the united states has taken many cases to the u.s. supreme court it has represented journalists as well as activists and others who are trying to expand the level of freedom of speech and freedom of the press they have also spoken up regarding the wiki leaks case any prosecution by the united states over missed a full week he digs publishing operations would be unprecedented and unconstitutional would open the door to criminal investigations of news

organizations prosecuting a foreign publisher of violating u.s. secrecy tools was sit and especially dangerous president the u.s. journalists who routinely violate foreign the secrecy laws to deliver information vital to the public's interest now in addition to these voices that have spoken up in support of a son there has been a large amount of voices speaking up calling for harsh punishment essentially for assad's a number of mainstream political figures have given their two cents essentially saying that they they think this is really a sign should be punished and dealt with harshly this is some of what we have heard it would be really good to get him back on united states soil so now. it's our property do we get the facts and the truth from you but the bottom line is he has a answer for what he. has done he says it's very hard now that last voice that you just heard was hillary clinton the presidential candidate for the democrats in twenty sixteen now at this point just facing charges of conspiracy to commit

computer intrusion it's alleged that he worked with chelsea manning who is now being detained by u.s. officials that he worked with her in order to try and crack the code to the department of defense in order to get information that was eventually leaked now eventually chelsea manning did hand over information to wiki leaks videos and such showing us atrocities committed in iraq now in addition to that wiki leaks published e-mails from the democratic national committee during the two thousand and sixteen elections they published e-mails from john podesta hillary clinton's aide and it was widely alleged that those e-mails came about they were received as the result of a hack however at this point wiki leaks has long maintained they received these e-mails as the result of an internal leak or the leaker provided them with these e-mails that was not hacking in order to get these e-mails now many suspect that even though there is simply been a request to extradite julian a songe on charges of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion which only holds

a penalty of possibly five years many suspect that when he reaches the united states he could be facing a much more serious situation at this point we've seen mike pence the u.s. vice president has come forward and said that wiki leaks and julian assad are working for foreign governments i want to ask you about something bad might come pay when he was the cia the cia director said he called we could leaks a nine state house intelligence service often abetted by state actors like russia do you agree with that characterization yes we strongly agree with that that's where the justice department is now seeking extradition and we're going to bring julian saw to justice now when asked by reporters u.s. president donald trump he's. seemed to say that he was not familiar with the case he didn't know much about wiki leaks however when people look at what he said on the campaign trail in two thousand and sixteen he seemed quite familiar with the outlet let's take a listen to what the u.s. president said and compare it with what he said on the campaign trail i know

nothing about wiki leaks it's not my thing and i know there is something having to do with julie was ours i have been seeing wouldn't happen with so. that would be a determination i would imagine mostly by the attorney general who's doing an excellent job so he'll be making a determination i know nothing really about him it's not my it's not my deal in life wiki leaks were key leaks wiki leaks but you leaks still amazing what's coming out on wiki leaks wiki leaks the wiki leaks ricky leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks and wiki leaks documents wiki leaks i love what you like. so now at this point all eyes are on britain julian assange just lawyers have said he could be tortured if he's extradited to the united states people are wondering what will happen next but here in the usa we've heard a number of voices speaking up on a songe we have but also a number of voices calling for his harsh punishment. please speak live

now to the robot. a human rights lawyer who represents a good snowden appreciate your time we've heard the details the sons facing extradition possibly to the u.s. to five years imprisonment for conspiracy to commit computer intrusion no mention at this point of from russia. the investigation do you think that's not it to change once he would land on u.s. soil. well that's. i mean there's a big question of whether or mr saul ever land on u.s. soil. extradition proceedings. would be expected to take many many years to be resolved. through in the first instance the extradition hearings too and he appeals. tape. new terms of what happened on the ground states. you know by the human rights lawyer the treatment of mr song.

and thought and there were other individuals such as chelsea manning had been treated that way by the u.s. authorities that i knew crueler that integrated honest. looking at mr assad health pearson's you know and he's frail you know any. of us already landed on soil so i don't want to torture. will you and the rest of his team be pushing the argument that he's already you know defacto been imprisoned for more than the maximum five years he could possibly face for the charges against him. the u.n. . human arming group arbitrary detention oh i don't actually have to go on which are the opinion that mr solomon in effect in order to really change ecuador and this. you know why one key point here is you

know with the u.s. government. traditionary actually acknowledge that it's already spent seven years it's hard to change and you know taking that into account. you know if you instructed us. which is more than the five years you know that it's you turks are. now back in two thousand and fifteen julian songe was asked a question about whether he would trade places with edward snowden he said he would quite clearly do you think he would have been in a better position now if he had asked russia for asylum. i mean the two choices are are extremely different mr snow actually oh. a whistleblower falls into you know classic definition of a whistleblower mr staunch is is a journalist. and it's worth whistleblowers in the past in particular chelsea fan

it. and i have a very difficult question because you know mr snowden i transited through moscow. not intended to stay in moscow but it's passport been revoked by the u.s. authorities and he was stuck there so that was a situation where you know mr snowden was looking for a solution up the tunnel and fortunately the russian government silent there after shooting him on these two occasions an ordinary working or business visa mr sargent's difficulty with c. k. . he sought asylum in ecuador embassy and he was actually granted asylum by the equator government and then subsequently ecuador citizenship. i think. you know the. disappointing events are i would say you know a sort of

a travesty the justices are the green and justice is the or door in government revoking us our nation it's. a sign of ston it's. number one it is a very high threshold to strip somebody of asylum status. for a while it's available in the public domain i don't see any evidence that would have just a president moreno or is it a stretch to strip him of that asylum status the second thing i'd like to comment on is. the constitution is an incredibly comprehensive an advance constitution or one of the best constitutions of the world and there are least five or six articles on the constitution not protect due process rights. it's a barrier. dorrian boston or why didn't only give us on thirty minutes notice that he'd been stripped of its asylum status and citizenship that would or.

be arrested he'd be taken still by the ecuadorian embassy oh it appears that a song never afforded any of these constitutional due process protections that are enshrined in the constitution and i think that's where you know there are you know that while it appears what the. irish are. so on. this is this really unfortunate situation mr song and no but i just want to squeeze in will more quick question if i may. you obviously have contact with your client i'm just wondering how nervous said snowden might feel about what he's seen unraveling with julian a song and the fact that the government to be willing to wait very patiently for many years to get their man oh i mean mr snowden speaking speaking directly meeting at this time postal basically what he is communicating through. his twitter account at this time and we're going to see mr snow. mr sawyer shows.

basically now on to our area where. journalists are being attacked. i mean that's another issue that you know. the evidence that's available it appears that extra song which. ultimately is trying to be silenced. and it would or enormously. government has done what it's done. now it's going to. help you get your needs and now he's at risk of being extradited to the u.s. and one thing i'd like to set you is. the. president her record or. character. are what's not understood is why the president. not just british artists to crack the stir.

because he didn't have. you know up to yesterday robert really appreciate your time thanks for coming on r.t. international this evening my guest robert tibo human rights lawyer lawyer for edward snowden thank you your. supporters of the former chief of ensuring their solidarity with julian assange both in the u.k. and us in washington they gathered outside the british embassy to decry as possible extradition to america while in london they gathered outside the court where the songs should been taken. and he says he's been following the international reaction to the arrest it seems a sign shows more people on his side. well we've seen the floods of global solidarity standing with the sun for all of its past revelations many saying asylum just where can courage those to ask what the most prominent political figures could be hiding the human rights watch which they say

a voice of justice has been speaking about an investigative journalism world wide they say that in this now might think twice about publishing news of public importance or government scrutiny now they've also criticized the trumpet ministrations open hostility to mainstream media which the group say creates a dangerous environment now for fellow journalists and fellow whistle blower as they say that this is a dark moments images of recorders and buses inviting the case secret police into the embassy to drag a publisher off like it on the award winning journalist of the building are going to end up in the history books critics may cheer but this is a dark moment for prostrate them the g.o.g. says part of what is science did to just defy his prosecution beyond the allegedly helping man and get the documents is that he encouraged manning to get more documents for him to publish journalists do this with sources constantly is a criminalization of journalism here in the u.k.

though the prime minister welcomed the songes of arrest but the late believe that jeremy corbett strongly opposed it he says that his son should not be extradited to the united states and this was about exposing u.s. military atrocities in iraq and afghanistan these statements as well have been echoed by international figures across the world where hearing strong political condemnation saying that they were the arrest is also a shameful act in what you want us into linen miranda has made a u. turn in ecuador spall attacks the foreign politics of ecuador is far from sovereignty and completely deviated from the original focus with a conservative agenda i would even use the strong words sold out but not bearing sovereignty in relations to the us it is. i mean that it's absolute if you think that i mean that we are talking about. the war. abuses and by all a sion of your money in international right did you look numbered as politician was

a drawer of political asylum by ecuador is a gross violation of international law as well as violations of the right for political asylum and their arrest by british police within the compound of the dorian embassy is a disgrace. now a son faces an extradition hearing on the second of may so the next challenge is the legal extradition battle but one thing's for sure though that this expulsion and the potential consequences have gone is an outcry world wise about what free speech really means. journalist and documentary filmmaker john pilger thinks that among all the leagues really landed dishonors in trouble was the revelation of the true nature of modern war we'll just go to auntie's as she returns e on going underground you can watch the full show tomorrow for now is a preview there are so many leaks that are related to telling us about the true nature of war of course what really got julian and trouble and

chelsea manning of course was the video of collateral murder and that expressed most graphically. what i would describe as the whole homicidal nature. of american colonial wars and especially in iraq but three hundred and sixty degree view of just kill them all and everybody watching but video. really has to read very little else of the wiki leaks revelations about the nature of american wars because there are it is there is a kind of consensual believe i'm trying to think of a polite term for brainwashing frankly but. we don't do these kind of things we are perpetually but in our own on our side only americans are part of that these things simply do not happen they only they only happen on their

side they only are the. totalitarian states. done by rogue states when in fact clearly the biggest rogue state of all is the united states. germany has allowed arms exports to some countries in the yemeni war including saudi arabia that's according to media outlets that have reportedly obtained documents from the government meeting each of our live reports from berlin. germany has a ban on selling weapons to saudi arabia but what we are hearing is that a number of companies have been able to circumvent that to various different means if we look at the the based. transport equipment company they specialize in trailer technology and equipment they've been sending their stuff to france france doesn't have

a ban on sending weapons to saudi arabia they've been going from france then on to saudi a similar things been happening with the cobra radar artillery targeting systems they've been sent to the united arab emirates along with. software updates for the for that system as well eventually then reaching the the war in yemen and reaching saudi arabian military hands now opposition figures here in germany as you would imagine outraged at this seems like the government can't wait when it comes to producing weapons for the human who were alliance in light of the latest attacks and yemeni school children this is simply a shameless killing of jamal khashoggi inside the saudi consulate in istanbul prompted berlin to well cancel weapons sales to saudi arabia in fact the deal making sure that there would be no more deal was extended at the end of

last month by the german government. and it's our flag we demand that the participating company since this time the export ban to saudi arabia and the united everett and a very this period when dealing with their contract partner us and the federal government will also commit to not using these jointly produced products in yemen. well there is a lot of pressure on germany from the likes of france and the united kingdom for berlin to start selling arms to saudi arabia again the argument from the british side is that if we stop selling weapons to the kingdom of saudi arabia we would lose influence over world perhaps trying to get them to move away from the conflict in yemen so interesting that they would try and move away from that conflict by selling them more weapons particularly well what we're hearing from the likes of human rights watch is this ban by germany is the right way to go in trying to help the embattled people of yemen what we have at the moment is

a situation where there's thousands perhaps hundreds of thousands of people in dire need of food clean water in aid and not so much in need of billions of dollars worth of weapons being sold to those that are going to use them against them. member of the german parliament for the left party and thinks pressure from france and the u.k. played a part in germany's decision. it's a clear breach of this band's extension is outrageous because it. was written in the coalition treaty that there should be no arms exports to those countries who are involved in the human of or seems that there is. on the one hand that there are a lot of pressure from of france and britain and that there's a lot of pressure from from the arms industry from the companies because they gain

a lot of money out of these exports and the german government is. using the idea of having a close friendship to france for pushing the new arms exports together with france to saudi arabia. the president of sudan has been ousted by the country's military the defense minister announced the newly formed military council will take charge for the next two years the presence technology follows months of protests which we initially sparked by a rise in the cost of living thank you into a broader and government needn't news of omar bashir the rest came people took to the streets to celebrate his ousting whether the mood changed and i guess the explains. the dictates of fuld's and the people rejoice happy empowered

optimistic it's it's always the same africa in the middle east the dictator. was removed by the military which sided with the people. sort of what the how militant must really have to be the military takes full responsibility for changing the entire regime for a transitional period of two years in which the government will be handled by the armed forces. now you could understand why people are a bit miffed they rebelled risked everything to get rid of a dictator for freedom for democracy and what they go to the end is a military regime what has been just stated is frost's a coup and it is not acceptable they are recycling the faces and this will return us to where we have been on the other hand consider how much worse it could have been temporary military rule may just have been the lesser of two evils but

these revolutions rarely and well. you may recognize this picture it's from a different era most of the need is either deposed in exile or dead countries no better off.

a grim even depressing picture yet it seems people just don't learn from the past earlier this week we heard the same tired calls from the u.k. u.s. norway calls for regime change. the demand for political change from the courageous and resilient people of sudan is becoming ever clear and more powerful the sudanese people are demanding a transition to a political system that is inclusive and has greater legitimacy there is a reason they wanted him gone not so much because he's a dictator they have plenty of tyrannical friends know because mr bashir like solly

and gadhafi before him made inroads with the west's rivals boosted relations trade military and economic cooperation with china with russia iran. which i think if you get any air of iranian conflict will harm the whole region arrow counter ease and iran itself neither iran nor the arabs would leave the region i suppose the burst option is to kill exist and deal with the problems that we have through dialogue and negotiations it is better than using guns and that it would appear was an unforgivable sin the united states considers africa its own and doesn't want anyone else on its tough unfortunately billions upon billions of us taxpayer dollars have not achieved this are effects they have not prevented other powers such as china and russia from taking advantage of african states

increase their own power and influence from now on the united states will not tolerate this longstanding pattern of it without effect to be fair mr bolton you hardly helped years of u.s. sanctions of civil war atrocities and the split up of the country have left their mark so don is a traumatised nation expecting democracy and magical reforms overnight is well it was never going to happen. europe's. biggest club football competition is to the quarter final stages and keeping a keen eye on the champions league action is joe's a merino in the latest edition of his show here on r.t. on the touchline he discusses what it's like managing a team in the tournament you can watch the full version of that interview little later here on r.t. .

when you're managing a club does it take up every minute of every day if you were. my keys. i would say. if you ask other there's probably been yes there are players that they are still. in training session and they are already thinking about what next and some of them believe the. believe. their view of the beach to go to prove that with something that you have organized for them i have globes we all know is like mr what are the problem of. the glazers family during those tours thinking about. the twenty four of us but the. owners that. more than one minute but the head clubs where i had to be

everything sometimes you got to go home people away to stay in all you have three matches but weeks sometimes you play on the sunday and then you have champions eagle know where they. are on you finish the game on the sunday you are already analyzing that match and preparing for the next one for the next morning you will do the training role you will do the turnarounds because you've ever chip and signature on the on the jews and on the winds as they have a bedouin bridge of oh yes we have. a low there is on the touchline for our c. thanks for staying with us updates in half an hour.