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a welcome to so if you go on so if you shevardnadze as to race for the arctic is gaining ground more countries are seeking to expand their presence there is a waltz coldest place turning into a major hot spot while i ask all our. former president of iceland to. the harsh cold of the seas or around the north pole as long frozen any conflicts between the arctic powers but now the retreating ice opens up possibilities trade

routes and natural resources ripe for extraction with countries not even bordering the arctic staking a claim for its riches those diplomacy stand a chance against the promise of a new north and gold rush all with a melting noice also melt down the decades of consensus and peace in the arctic circle present thank you so much for being on our program today a pleasure to have you as our guest thank you hear some of you our state my thumb pal has actually said that washington needs to be engaged in the arctic because otherwise russia and china's growing domination in the region is quote a threat to freedom loving nations like iceland and the united states do you feel like your country is somehow being threatened no we don't quite frankly. most. corporations. for decades don't forget the united states of the military base in iceland for more

than half a century and then during the george w. bush administration they closed the tone so paro talk sickly while the washington was telling the rest of the world that it was no such a dangerous place that there was a need to go towards in the far away places they were telling us that the north an arctic neighborhood was no so peaceful and secure that america could remove their military oppression completely of the left so as we don't have any armed forces of our own for now almost a decade there has not been a single soldier in iceland and it cost of course to any problems but of course it is important to have the engagement off the peak arctic states russia and the united states in the arctic corp and the good news is despite conflicts in all the parts of the world russia and america have together with the rest of us managed to

conclude treaty and i grievance on the arctic by conflict son difficult as in all the possible the world and during my german ship of the arctic circle which i stopped list six years ago i am also very much aware of the growing interest of china japan and korea frons germany in the arctic. so to go the way your ocean brushed the rush of the arctic states including i have also to come to go though or not coherent policy with respect to what i call the new war rival the arctic from asia and also from the european continent and the topic of us were surely tensions between them always come up in context of the arctics and how that would affect the situation there trust most recent national

security strategy prioritizes the so-called great power grab really in pentagon is actually currently working on the arctic defense strategy what do you think this could lead to i mean no one wants war and that's where sure but is this is to nation where no one wants a war. but everyone just pumps funds into a cold weather we are in fact talking about the part of the plotted which is almost a shy showoff for almost a shall issue of when people want to bring the military model from the cold war to this part of the planet. let us start distinguishing different parts of the arctic and i shant climbs the by the arctic into three parts the west antarctic which is primarily. the north and probably fish. then you have the east which is predominantly russia seven tom scholz little bottle from sweden and then you have

the center of which you basically if you wish more countries like greenland the norway for a lot but the big ocean territory well these three parts are very different. and when you want to talk about the federal security and military issues you have to distinguish between these parts i sometimes jokingly say to my american friends . you have been preoccupied by what's happening on your profit yacht the border with mexico but you're paying very little attention to what's happening in your pocket. because there are the ice is melting during the summer months anybody on a boat can enter the united states in the coast of alaska so it is in fact inevitable that the your question would start paying more attention to the infrastructure the capabilities of the arctic in alaska in the same way it is

inevitable and understandable that the russia. giving the huge economic importance of the russian arctic to the russian economy will build capabilities infrastructure security mechanism in the arctic so yes actually knowing this foreign defense minister also said that there is nothing surprising and wrong with a military presence in the arctic and it doesn't mean that there's a threat it's normal because there aren't in the arctic could be similar to what's going on in the south china sea where china and you know the states are demonstrating cap abilities but not of absolutely not absolutely not don't forget norway and russia shoal the major territorial dispute in the arctic with a treaty which both countries agree to and if you look at border disputes in the

arctic. most of them are between canada and the united states and canada and the kingdom of the. so if the us canada and denmark manage to fold their border disputes of the arctic we would really almost have a free border dispute. and of course taking mobile flight from this house and as if the norse the pact that we have the law of the she thought every arctic states follows even the us a well they have more to formally signed it and this determines in quite definite ways the rights and the op location of all these countries and watch even more remarkable even if the world has not notice its very months of the last year russia united states all the arctic states also china japan korea the e.u. managed to conclude the treaty on the arctic ocean how not only we have the arctic

including us and russia but also these asian powers on the e.u. are going to combine the ocean resources of the emerging arctic ocean and that's not the issue i think a shy of how the possibilities in the arctic on lost being prevented from being realized because of some some tension but you are right the need for what i call and hunched capabilities in the arctic. could lead to serious show of mission understand the issue about whether it's a military should show whether it is threatening or that's why i have advocated to recently that we need to get an agreement on infrastructure capability in the arctic what is normal water is understandable and what will then stop the constitute a threat if it goes beyond

a stage because if we don't have shot some agreed stand up or capabilities those who want to winter do their mongering an old cold war model into the arctic of a much arctic council is something that focuses on scientific research and rescue and search operations but it doesn't necessarily focus on security given the situation in africa now do you think maybe we need an organization where all these countries just can rant on well i believe very strongly that they in the twenty first century we have a bailable torsion new model of international corporation where you don't have to have the shame institutional structure of the thread to the nineteenth century and i will explain that you mentioned the arctic council the arctic council official in took up a month to gather all the arctic partners created in two worlds and those are the arctic shore coal which is an open international platform where any state can come

china japan korea singapore france germany italy which a lot of the mothers or business companies or and my own mental organization or the shame level and interest your projects on the bishop but also be extended and this has turned out to be a better model so now every year in iceland in october we have over two thousand petitions bunch it's the largest annual international gathering on the altar from all of the sixty countries where all these country. i mentioned have accepted to shun the delegation representing their policies on the protests and then to answer questions from anybody in the oath you whether to show young children an activist or a political leader and in addition to please we organize full remission all the parts of the world more unscathed but though very prominent last december we had one in korea we will have one in china next month on china in the arctic we will follow up

to the forum in front up or in all this. and all of this together with other arctic other things have in fact made the arctic dialogue of the artistic corporation very . very touched by so in addition to the formalized arctic council we have all these publish where those countries and all the participants are players come together in an open transparent accountable dialogue and i believe very strongly that this is one of the rhaetian. why the arctic husband shots are crushed for territory of corporations because the dialogue has been opened it's not just where diplomats say something or you have to be a minister in order to come whether you are conscientious nor journalist or scientist on environmental issues or lead there over russia riccio like you are

malema shaw more monks kwaak young girls go all those everybody can come of the same level so what i find interesting about the often progress in the last ten to fifteen years is that we in addition to the arctic corp we have demonstrated the new global model of dealing with challenges on top. of so far we have told all to be pretty search us presidents who have taken share a break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to all of who are rocking our crimson former president of iceland about what's going on in the arctic today stay with us.

and we're back with all our war rocking our bramsen former president of last month and then there's always a big topic of the air temperature change at the arctic which is by the. but the guess is it's going to rise five to ten percent by twenty eighty and that

would mean that fast spaces with minimal resources would be accessible. and that's changing the whole picture so do you think this whole ramping up of the presence in the arctic is really about being in the right place at the right time. well the arctic circle for ribbon china. we will have plenty shushu watch called three things shifting. arctic future because the fact of the mater reach the pollution in china news show moderation schuster's rather than indio indonesia or japan korea is probably among the great to stretch to the future of the all. with all to comprehend ship clean energy transformation in a shoe in africa as well as the americas of europe we will continue to see the arctic . to the green light of the ice sheet. total sham the future

off the authors will be fine. and enough for a go. and if these parts of the world continue to pollute the planet of course they will continue to smoke the resources will become more and more available and that is one of the reason why i have always encouraged the in a moment of the asian countries some of those in the few deep bait of the future of the earth to. because whether we like a film or the arctic is no more pro bowl and perhaps any other part of the planet because if you want to have the arctic will determine the she level of the extreme weather patterns all over the world and the force of your that you should in all the parts of the world will determine the future of the arctic more them the decisions of the russian government of the american government or the i phone the

quote so we can talk about the asian involvement in china in the limit but before that i want to ask you a question about europe there is so much talk about securing you energy right now do you maybe think that arctics reach reserves could be the key actually and maybe . that would be the long awaited diversification for the european union although to the low cost for a new board pleat energy of the technological time formation of the smart grid. is also creating a long arm of the rage where countries and continents become energy independent through the usual resources so i think the whole szell want economically to do find their future on the basis that they will have a revenue from paul show fewer resources in the arctic for the next fifty years most of us a hundred years to take a shot. of the picture only moved further just right now in developing

its acting cap abilities and there are investments involved as well but when it comes to gas and oil deposits europe can be an american can be involved because of the sanctions but china can do you think europe and united states are missing and window opportunity here was difficult to say one of the passion eighteen option ratio that i have been able to. witness. is the transformation over russia in the arctic when i first came to russia pressure them in two thousand and two the federal government of russia was not particularly interested in the author it was primarily a conscious of of the governor bush and even then president clinton because of the full should his first period those preston referred me to talking to the government to talk about the future of the author i have also attended all the arctic

territory of course at the conference the first one in moscow or relatively smaller conferences in one. medium sized lecture hall in the university paged operation in moscow and if you compare it with the spectacle we now have here in some petersburg in terms of the international participation of this great action be sure of the discussion of the important for the future of the russian economy revolutionary change. and that should not be underestimated how russia has come into arctic awareness on arctic economy on an arctic political due to ship in the last fifteen years is a revolution or a transformation of the role of russia to be fair i think when you came in two thousand and two russian was still sort of coming out of the really tough ninety's period where it didn't have no no i mean you're late always russia going on leaving russia i'm simply making the point and i could give you all the example the arrival

of china upon korea in the arctic is a mother example i am simply saying in the last ten or fifteen years we have sheet monumental changes in the arctic so most people have this picture of the arctic it's a staple changing rather remold part of the world it is probably the part of the planet where we have seen in geo political terms in economic terms in scientific terms the more shift. transformative picture that will affect the future much more than what has happened on the european continent on the other post of the world and that is why i say to many people nobody nobody come out predict how the arctic will you wall the next ten or fifteen or twenty years that to me. a passionate thing are suspect of the arctic

partnership patient because coming bottle my previous point the arctic being the size of off recover this is the first time in human history. so the challenge on the opportunity to do find the structural corporation for social a large part of the planet and there of course the united states and russia have to play a great talk oh ok but there's also china's involvement that we brought a couple of times you know i know yes i have been and then people are saying we are wary of the chinese takeover of the ark you know chinese china is not a the arctic state and it's very actively going into so what are your thoughts i have also been privileged to work in a lot the china on this china. some very minute you did meet the reasons for being interested conscient uninvolved in the arctic first of all the polar institute of child has done extensive research to make the chinese

leadership realize that they are. melting of the arctic. courses extreme weather patterns in china with monument of the structure of the in the last ten years. only a few months only a few months later check out the like the polarity shochu pointed out the continuity melting of the greenland ice sheet more stole the shish and salt in china will be uninhabitable during this century show. the climate changes in the arctic constitute a threat to infrastructure and to a whole sheet fish in china secondly. becoming the largest economy on the planet it is inevitable they will take a look of the resource rich area likely off like every big economy has taken a look at resources from all the possible certainly with the north and she wrote opening up and shortening the dishes but you can china europe and america this is

all show that your timid ration for china to participate in arctic corp and so far this rodeo frankly i have not seen any shine and i'm probably worked more this china on the arctic than most of the people i have not seen any shot of any of carrier a crush if motive from the chinese leadership with respect to the often so i just wonder what it could do to. the balance of powers in the region. as the ice melt navigation is becoming easier said curtly mick maritime traffic counts to eighty percent of the global trade in terms of volume could a chinese policy could get this region like a whole new strategic meaning well look we in europe are not includes russia we

have some opi traits by our culture and those think the three other shuttles you have. the future of the global economy there. will be determined an issue whether we like it at all and that is open. the reason why i point out to people he shows korea south korea very. extensive arctic pollution they are building the. containers bring the us from shop at the. un europe korea our formal polish to which is called korea polar issue in two thousand and fifteen they have a thirty year supply with respect to the osce to shop it's not just china and japan we are cooperating with japan in the arctic circle the forum initialed to your pound troubled all the way to a top or to make

a keen old polish breach of the opening of the arctic circle simply for all the mates your power china and korea are now do really in wall in the shows in the arctic evidence of the the emphasis in the global economy moving towards we should not look at that ocean of threat we should look at the spec off the global economic transformation and then i'm gauge with these countries about the responsible constructive behavior in the arctic absolutely but and once again i'm just talking about the balance of powers here one more time because it seems like china's aspirations in terms of the cargo transit through the arctic is really just aimed mainly at europe the prospect of arctic trade and and the pushing the e.u. tour it's been seen from washington economically is it possible well of course it is possible but the bottom of the fact is. russia shipment time shown

should the ha to. it's a very ship reshot rich part of the to a ship polish on russia with respect to the offer to show far. the corporate power of america and the political party of america not woken up to the future potential of the arctic when i tell my french in motion talk about what's china japan and korea doing i even. do this exercise often in my meetings in america i ask people how many of you have heard of up at the. and very few people put their hunch up so i think the question is shipley this does america want to be a part of this global transformation and nobody country shyte the except the united states all of us including russia it's a preach be

a part of it please calm one join us on the problem some germany and the asian polish in creating a constructive prosperous responsible future in the arctic but if they for their corporate the recession should move on wall street or for political reasons in washington oppy occupied with all the things there's no power that we have truly changed and then europe chose to write the end result could be that in twenty years time the rest of the world has moved to an extensive optic corporation and the us sean paul is left behind and that is why i find it a kind of a wake up call that at this conference here you will have. all the nordic countries represented either by president the prime ministers or foreign ministers cooperating with russia and talking with russia on the future of the arctic by that conflict over all the policy of the world all these leaders all the

nordic countries involved it necessary to come to some people's book to engage with russia on the future of the office. thank you very much for this interview and enjoy the rest. of this by that'll survival. when customers go by you're just. now well read you some lower. that's undercutting but what's good for markets is not good for the global economy.

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