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the b.b.c. it arguably changed course on reporting illegal military action by nato nations well let's take a look at the broader picture of what is happening in libya with george groves the director employable security at the henry jackson's death today on the u.k. state mandated b.b.c. it appears axiomatic that the u.k. and nato can bomb wherever it wants whenever it wants without a un security council resolution and guests can include arguably extreme neocon far right think tanks like ones named after us politicians who backed ethnically based internment camps in the usa for those of asian origin and wars in southeast asia that perhaps killed six million one man who no longer seems to appear on u.k. mainstream media despite previously working on major stories with organizations like the b.b.c. channel four and the guardian is measured rejoined us greg palast he's famous for his investigations into corporate corruption voter fraud and u.s. backed wars for oil he joins me now via skype from los angeles greg welcome to going on the ground before we get to all sorts of conspiracy theories in the u.s. your reaction to julian assad's being dragged out of his place of asylum here in
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london by british police and secret police apparently if you are going to arrest julian assignment you're going to have to risk me because i use the songe josie manning wiki leaks documents and you should also jail my colleagues at the guardian you know including alan rusbridger who was publisher and published the stories originally a you should arrest of course the entire staff of the new york times because they're more than happy to get both of awards for julian assange just work and take credit for it and take the awards but now the times sickeningly applauds the arrest of manning and the sonship it's really quite disgusting julius onj whatever you think of him personally that does not matter he's a journalist and if you say well he's not a real journalist then he's a real source it's one or the other both. must be protected if freedom of the press
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means anything in britain or of the united states you know it is it is sickening this guy and i relied on him for example from the assignment manning wiki leaks documents i uncovered that seventeen months before the deepwater horizon platform exploded in the gulf and killed eleven people that the owner of that platform british petroleum had covered up in connivance with the us state department and identical blowout in the caspian sea off baku and they covered it up was b.p. denied any wrongdoing all through that period people i think you're joking about it says explicitly in the indictment that it's the afghan war logs the iraq war logs surprise that they're that clear and that they they say that he shouldn't have leaked documents that obviously revealed war crimes well that's the point it is the crime was committed by the us military in covering up war crimes this was
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a tremendous service by a songe and manning and he deserves the congressional medal of honor not prison time of course trump said he loved wiki leaks now is secular state bump a o. course he said that it was all style intelligence agency but your media over there and our media over here arguably they seem to be obsessing about cambridge analytic or and the idea of advertising on facebook i understand that you identified something a little bit more perhaps believable of the koch brothers not even russia what have you what are you been looking at well i mean camera generalistic a is a flyspeck next to the koch brothers computer spying operations legal spying i should say as far as i know they haven't been operational i three sixty which kept a dynamic track of eight hundred facts about every single living american. that's
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a lot of information on you cambridge and of the get nothing on the koch brothers but what i'm more i'm concerned about is the massive number of people blocked from voting and for example a trump relied on a guy in kris kobach of kansas who is both the in chief that elected trump it by the way he was not elected by some email capture that was printed by wiki leaks if it did have by the way one thing i would know if you really believe that some mentions of some material from the memos of hillary clinton and her cronies being public of affected the election well you know what that's what information is supposed to do the truth is the truth it can't be partisan when i talk about taking away votes of black people taking away votes of young people hispanics and others which is a real crime the continuing apartheid in our electoral system in the u.s.
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and that's elected trump that's that cannot be discussed on mainstream us television because that breaks the myth of the great american democracy so there's a great america about this america is more of a mockery of democracy than a true democracy but i mean obviously u.s. authorities would deny any accusations of apartheid in fact so successful as a voter i.d. voter i.d. law as they coming to britain to resume is now trialing them all over in parts of britain what what are the dangers of voter id laws well i can see why theresa may is bringing it to britain because she can't win if you count the votes and that's what happened in has happened in the u.s. about thirty states they require all kinds of id to prove you're an american prove your citizen and the result is that up to five million are he repeat that number from the brennan center for justice which is that they're the gold standard from.
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this if the five million people have been blocked from voting or register in the united states overwhelmingly poor people voters of color people would have a tough time it's not easy and cheap to get to get id and you don't have walking citizenship cards by the way in britain so it's not so easy and here's the thing this is to prevent a crime which doesn't happen the state of indiana was the first to require id forms some type of photo current government id in order to vote like a driver's license they needed that in one hundred years of voting the crew find a single case of someone else's someone using someone else's identity claiming they were someone else to vote kris kobach and maybe to raise a way would say no no this is about trying to get accurate votes are you saying that kris kobach who i should say is on the career upswing what with changes in the trumpet ministration in the immigration department do you think that voter suppression could could ensure donald trump's reelection in twenty to one hundred
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percent i've been investigating this for rolling stone now and kris kobach for rolling stone for six years and he came up with a system called interstate cross-check which knocked out one point one million people he said he said seven million americans are suspected of voting twice and yes he couldn't find one he couldn't find one voting twice and yet he removed over a million people from the voter rolls overwhelmingly voters of color you know he said if foreigners are voting in american elections he claimed one million foreigners vote in u.s. elections for hillary clinton which explains your popular vote victory no sir but quite aside from that kind of electoral manipulation arguably there's an even better way and the european union and all trump have done it recognizing candidates of their choice to be the leaders of countries of their choice what do you make of the focus on venezuela from brussels and from washington let's just. horrific
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attack on democracy i covered venezuela for the guardian and b.b.c. television i was there during the coup d'etat in which in two thousand and two when hugo chavez was kidnapped and you had european leaders and u.s. press and u.s. governments a.o.l. he resigned you know he was so unpopular i went down there and saw a million people in the streets marching on the presidential palace to grab and dismember the coo coo plotters unless they. brought back hugo chavez safely to his desk which they did i mean this is quite amazing to me and by the way here's a connection once again it's the corporate connection last year the british government and british petroleum asked the venezuelan government you know the guys they call dictators to give british petroleum the oil fields of that were run by french toast top the french company they wanted the french fields so at that point
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if if venezuela had given british petroleum the your oil fields you know then they wouldn't and then obviously the government wouldn't be a dictatorship for people understand what's really going on in venezuela because your press even in britain and europe has been terrible on this and i saw this back when chavez was president you have to understand the current government like chavez is made up of misty's those people the child is as he told me our neighbor or i am you let me say i'm black and i'm indian featured and the white people hate this it's a seventy percent miskito nation that is it's made up of people who are black or mixed race or indigenous people seventy percent for four hundred years they were under the control of the white elite and there was massive poverty massive poverty while sitting on on the world's biggest pool or oil chavez was like there nelson mandela. and yes you would see massive demonstrations against chavez but when i was
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down there for british networks i saw those demonstrators against chavez were the white minority it's seventeen years almost to the day that i have as was returned after being kidnapped by washington backed operatives who are say in venezuela what it charges tell you about though the koch brothers i understand because they have a they have a part to play in venezuela as well the number one customer in the world the venezuelan oil are the koch brothers they have refineries on the gulf coast of texas they say why can't these texas oil because the refineries owned by the koch brothers can only use the super heavy oil that you find in either venezuela or canada since right now there's no pipeline to get that tar sand any gun key oil out of canada the koch brothers did rely on venezuela and then as well was charging them a massive premium for that world because the coastal captive customers so the coasts of been you know applauding any attempt or
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a chance to overthrow the government of venezuela violently that we were with the oil companies and cut their prices but just finally and briefly needly that that stuff of the koch brothers the dealings with the trumpet ministrations attitude to climate change and fossil fuels and the keystone x.l. pipeline yes well you know that trump. has approved bringing down that oil from canada but it's not there yet and so they have they're basically they can bring your all down from canada cheaply then they're going to have to get it from venezuela and our secretary of state and the national security adviser by the way john bolton has said publicly that he's talking to us oil companies like exxon about seizing the oil assets of venezuela the problem is that venezuelans don't want to give up their resources as china has told me we're not harming any more.
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greg palast thank you. after the break british colonial war crimes still being covered up we speak to jolly and well the bugs in t.v. the liberation committee member will decide about operation legacy and one hundred years since the british murder up to one thousand innocent protest has all of them all coming up but you have going underground.
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so when you want to be president and you. want. to go right to the press this is what the four three of them all can't be good. interested always in the why. should. you know world big part of the law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks.
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welcome back how many civilians just resumes government help to slaughter us dollars are like this as have lived on this channel in the bus few months in yemen over forty civilians have reportedly been killed by a strike most of them children the strike hit a school bus and the marketplace a word of warning you might find the upcoming picture is disturbing according to the latest information from the red cross twenty nine children were killed all under the age of fifteen forty eight more were injured including thirty children there being more disturbing pictures from yemen seventy two hours after the u.k. backed killing of children of a girls' school revelations of u.k. ground troops prompted one m.p. to raise a question in the british parliament it was claimed that. carry out ninety five percent of the preparations for typhoon bombing rights including the one that killed forty schoolchildren and opus tell us. move the government now to review
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arms export licenses to saudi arabia and the british complicity in these bombings you know said theresa may before she flew off to europe to continue chaotic breaks of negotiations is the same reply she always gives as other nations ban selling weapons to the conflict threatening twenty million people can i say to the owner of the lady that we have one of the toughest regimes in relation to the export of arms across the world jeremy corbyn wants an immediate arms embargo but then did anyone expect resume to apologize for the mass mutilation of children with british weapons because she didn't even arguably apologize for a massacre of civilians a hundred years ago the tragedy of. nine hundred nineteen is a shameful scar on british indian history as her majesty the queen said before visiting one of the back in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven is a distressing example of our past history with india yes the massacre of civilians
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a number it was distressing jeremy corbyn wanted an apology. thank you mr speaker i'm very pleased that the prime minister mentioned what happened in johannesburg and the issues of the massacre at amritsar one hundred years ago i think the people in memory of those that lost their lives in the brutality of what happened deserve a full clear and unequivocal apology for what took place well for more on the scent in europe i'm joined now by julia while the bags and commemoration committee member labor peer lord decide lord as i welcome to going underground so what is the enjoying legacy of the british well security jolly well above a hundred years ago. it was good for a change in the tactics of the independence movement. the trench in the british was the last of the buck. that was one. of the people to ok no longer classes for. because gandhi was an empire loyalist.
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you know he helped recruit people for the first world war very few people believe this but he always believe that whatever else was wrong here is from both the good thing and the julian lot of myself or more convinced him. and after that i think the international congress broke from the government and started this moment for complete independence so that is going in well above the legacy we have doctors are able to sunny claiming in the middle times and the statement of the b.b.c. the numbers are exaggerated and in fact this is this is being to od on the british i don't do you numbers that are exaggerated my life is written a book about is a decently julian one the buggery own story and there are two things it is just what happened that day and they join in on the box. it was a great tragedy but punjab was being thrown over and being bombed. or good you
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know as well as a. siege you cannot of soldiers would come back would fall to the first floor of the inflation the russian revolution it just happened so there was a real nervousness in punjab that this may be a second uprising so and to be going to martial law in. that time and a lot of the people who were injured couldn't go to hospital because they knew when to help and they'd be arrested so what what we have now i think slowly and numbers are coming out and my wife has confirmed that she's going to do it in the next edition the five hundred forty seven about even time this is for more than five hundred died all over injured and so i don't think one can consider these numbers are exaggerated but basically munchen law you don't stop people from having
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a meeting you don't give them a warning before you fire on them you don't say listen will you please disperse because you're meeting an illegal. that had that and people had been given room to disperse this to but to give a warning. and to shoot and close of all exits but we know if. they want that but it is an apology to and i'm not sure the bloody sunday has taught at schools but it took a tory and people black men in the commons to say this massacre in india should be tool in schools surprised that it's not being taught why do you think this is not being taught at schools you know how many months because they are going to teach in schools for the british empire. you could have a you could have the you know i mean in a sense what is truly good because we now have a dives but a population. we're just conscious of its history and they're insisting i think
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quite rightly the deed seems to be taught in schools but. they don't to be taught to school in secondary schools. so you can properly explain what was the nuances. it is a complex issue but i think it's a crucial strike me. as you said your wife is saying newspapers release we now since twenty thirteen a getting papers from m i five is involved in special branches involvement in the pre-independence weeks in different british colonies of the mass destruction of documents and evidence why is it too late in coming twenty twenty first century we're getting these documents and papers still but you know i. can sue a government for compensation but i would say that if they've made a clean breast of it they would have been to do on stage a lot of good but not
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a good one because operation legacy was to ensure perhaps things like the. massacre should be remembered with formless and respect very few people. know about operational things so i think one ought to be. told more about it but i think what you were may have missed it would be quite reasonable for the prime minister to say of course we're on and. have you know and. during the time people behave like that but you know better and. as you said there may be implications for compensation but. said that the best way to one of the dead is to do business deals with india and i think we certainly have evidence now of the attempts to destroy the indian economy just before nine hundred forty seven. but the british what do you make a notch statement do the business deals post-breakfast business deals about you
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know basically as it is we have been doing business deals in day the second the third largest investor in u.k. you can no longer be kind to india it has to seek indian investment for its so especially after brics that you can is going to need it no doubt about that. you can india right now either the fifth or sixth largest economy and india is about to overtake britain so we have to be as british we have to be good to india because we need india's put u.k. with how to negotiate of separate treaty with india and for that reason an apology would be amazingly helpful to you so i think you know india this city is only for economy it's no longer a colonial ghetto and india is industry and investment will be needed but by you and the balkans will be needed from the right do you see breaks it itself is
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a phenomenon that's a legacy of. the loonies as a bridge it is part of the whole imperial mentality at least in hard drugs it is a dreaming of eight hundred fifty s. in the free trade in river monsters of the you know and you know i mean liam fox is over played pretty well probably walk and five minutes that whole mentality stood to me obsolete but it's very powerful and in one branch of the conservative party and they're suffering because of that. see there's empire and there's the second world war and how we fought for europe i did it for the europeans we'd rescued them there better be nice to us. all the time some change you can do lords and ladies laugh about it in the other place of the house of love with it's not so much love to be mentioned that have been he said that the one of the problems is the did
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these boys go to public schools and this is the kind of history that i mean forget about a comprehensive they should teach that in one of us can eat. we would have a much better governing as a colonial adventures now over here. you know you would need seven dollars to say i'm sitting here i mean it is you could easily say it's all black it's all white i think that a mixed picture elections are going on in your right now. what are the idea of elections what is the idea of universal francesco but idea of income from part of the idea of common local. so yes then bad things happen but other things happen in of it was being this realization and so on and their ambassadors. between you could talk about all that's my views yes it was on the whole thing
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wichita to happen in there would have been better off without a clue to root it with this sort of illusion so little known. but it happened and it is a mixed blessing and it's very difficult to strike a balance i have in my book even. tried by best to see how and count in the how indians history changes that of us from country it's all about trust but you know yes it has to be nuanced. thank you that's a for sure keep in touch by social media will be back and went to fifty eight years today of the cia that they have kids invasion of communist cuba. the business model of facebook is to pressure people to continue communicating
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through facebook and getting facebook personal information and this is what makes this book a surveillance monster show facebook does not have users facebook has used its people that facebook users. i do think the numbers mean something they've mattered the u.s. has over one trillion dollars of debt more than ten white collar crime families each day. eighty five percent of global wealth you long for the ultra rich eight point six percent world market rose thirty percent some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and that one rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a i industrial park but don't let the numbers over. the only number you need to remember one one business show you
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