a little trump chance you're out. here. oh. and. the much anticipated live report dispels two years of media speculation on. top of the silence the attacks on the us president with the democrats finding a new angle. no collusion no obstruction. of justice certainly obstructed justice multiple attempts by the president to mislead the country. seventy thousand.

for a televised election debate as the incumbent president on stage with a comic actor who's tipped to take his job in sunday's runoff. and the un government in libya accuses france of supporting rebel forces and cooperation with paris as the violence in the north african nation intensifies with hundreds killed over the past few weeks. it's nine o'clock am moscow and you're watching our international line from last year with nina welcome to the program. after a two year investigation and almost nonstop media coverage of the so-called russia gate scandal to have reporters finally sorted it out the document reveals there was no cooperation between any american with russians. in the twenty sixteen

presidential election. the special counsel's report states that his quote investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government in its election interference activities but isn't off the hook in the eyes of the democrats the media the u.s. house judiciary committee has issued a subpoena for the unredacted report as the focus now shifts to the possible obstruction of the investigation more a lot now from our senior correspondent. two years america waited for this hoped and prayed it would unmake trump or exonerate him that the new report would end this two year long drama about collusion hacking and conspiracy people would get closure what america got was this

page off the redacted page censored into illegibility obviously some of this stuff could pass for modern art and as with aat everyone interprets this report how they want and they're having a good day i'm having a good day q who's called. no collusion no obstruction if it is incomplete for me we're going to blow report outlines disturbing evidence that president tripping gauged in obstruction of justice and so there is kind of confused so was mueller trump may have been cleared of collusion but obstruction of justice. in the air mueller writes that it's so complicated he couldn't decide whether trump tried to obstruct justice or not the guilty no innocent the conclusion the congress may apply the obstruction laws to the president's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the

principle that no person is above the law specifically mueller found in never been instances where trump potentially tried to obstruct justice and democrats have jumped on it the miller report paints a disturbing picture of a president who has been weaving new weapons deceit lies and improper behavior and acting as if the law doesn't apply to him it's a very interesting a very disturbing read that does not exonerate this president the whole repercussions for the country of having a president. who lies to the country who misleads the country you urges others to do so a president to. to my reading of the. mother report almost certainly obstructed justice certainly intended and attempted to obstruct justice and if true this alleged trump tantrum is only making it so much sweeter. the

president slumped back in his chair and said oh my god this is terrible this is the end of my presidency i'm. you know this report has wounded trump politically the democrats smell blood they have trump and like bloodhounds still mercilessly to dog him for obstruction and anyone that gets in the way the messenger included they have ministration has a new face and a messenger and one with a lot more stature he's the country's attorney general he said half a dozen times no collision occlusion no lawyer no legal presentation presents its conclusion six times the attorney general getting out there and getting his narrative his take on it as vigorously as possible because attorney general barr wants to represent donald trump and i think he should resign they are calling for bud to resign a traitor a sellout they scream and they want mueller himself the darling just a few months ago to be hauled before congress the mueller reports and did nothing

those who hated trump hate him more and vice versa if anything this report is going to tear america and americans further apart but they go to tell you at least the facts are as happy. as expected lots of reaction to the release including russia with the kremlin saying the report provides no evidence of so-called interference and calling it a case of internal u.s. political fighting has some of the views guests and experts shared with us about the two years in the making the reports. they still can't get to a point where the president clued in with russia and fact they say quite categorically it did not happen so then why would the president knowing he is innocent abstract put that in as a matter of pure politics as a sop to the democrats who are on the commission twenty five attorneys all of them

democrats most of them hillary supporters a large number of them are hillary donors and we had to do something in the report to make them happy. why did this investigation even begin i mean was there wrongdoing there was there you know falsified cation of documents to get pfizer warrants there's a lot of embarrassment here we're talking about millions upon millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars of time wasted of things happen for something that legitimately had no basis in fact and any evidence that might have been presented to start this investigation all last night we had chuck schumer saying that well how dear william barr you know come out and speak before we get the report what kind of report would this be after that we're going to start hearing about how the redactions are the way a way to hide the real truth and it's really never going to end we're going to continue to see one thing after another with trump but they went immediately from russia collusion to trump taxes trying financial statements and william bars obstruction so i mean the arguments haven't stopped yet they're not going to stop but we do have what seems to be a very conclusive case of absolutely no collusion most of the attorneys i talked to

at the beginning of this said when they start investigations like this they always find something on their target it came back that he was squeaky clean and i think that turns the conversation from what's inside of this investigation to what prompted what was the impetus who paid for this investigation the rule of the united states the constitutional law as you're innocent until proven guilty that right actually was not given our president he was absolutely considered guilty by much of the leftist regressive media in the united states and so i don't know exactly how they're going to explain themselves more time the democrats do spend on this the more they're damaging their own party going into elections. crain away a packed stadium in kiev has watched the most unlikely pairing slug it out ahead of sunday's presidential election run off the incumbent petro poroshenko was up against comic actor a lot to me it's a landscape who played a president on t.v.

but is now hardly to become the real thing well let's bring in. good to discuss this is. even following the debate among states where they held this to call them as a warm up how did they get to this point. that was really something special first of all this was the debate ahead of the presidential runoff in ukraine which is the country that in fact was the result reason sorry for all the bitterness between the western world and russia all the sanctions boy because this is not to talk face to face with russia with a lot of our putin in particular it all began in two thousand and fourteen in ukraine and this was really the first presidential election which is contested because the first one after the my then revolution petro poroshenko didn't really have any competitors back then so during the first round this time

the comedian volo dimmers events he performed better than expected winning a bit less than a third of the vote and petro poroshenko the incumbent president he got almost two times less sixteen percent so it was the president that after the first round was supposed to make the reckless moves really come up with some sort of game changers to turn the whole thing around but instead we got a video from volunteers alinsky who gave petro poroshenko twenty four hours to decide whether he agrees to hold the debate on this stadium and to be out of the go ahead said no he would have rid of all the chances. really he needed this move he couldn't refuse to take part in these debates so that's how we saw it but i mean just to see. the two candidates on such

a massive stadium in front of tens of thousands of people there were two stages that couldn't agree on the format of the debates til the very last moment the very last day we didn't even know whether the debates were going to happen because before that there were many different concepts. ones even invited voting were dillon's key to take part of the t.v. debate they call them on the phone line of a live on air sorry. he was in france at that time and he refused and so on and so forth so when the two states were there it was unclear for us how are they going to talk to each other if there are the different sides of the stadium was going to scream obviously there were microphone but then all of a sudden the current president petro poroshenko walked all the way to a limousine and age and that was a rather awkward moment too so indeed very extraordinary with a lot of instances. and moments that seemed really awkward to us i mean

you know the way you described it in the run up to the debates it feels like a very old fashioned deal doesn't it you know one challenging the other and the other not being able to refuse how did the candidates try to win over the orgy and well first of all we have to remember how petro poroshenko he came to power and i have already mentioned that that was the result of the my dad revolution when the president who was considered pro russian victor unicode ridge was thrown out and then petro poroshenko he won the election with more than fifty percent of the vote and now just ahead of the second round his support ranges according to different opinion polls ranges from twenty percent to fourteen percent forty percent which obviously isn't enough to win the second round so proportion goes trying to play this and russia card right now he's trying to energize all the nationalistic layers of this is the western region of the country and is. trying to portray mr selenski

as a puppet of vladimir putin as a puppet of the all of the t.v. channel where mr zilinskas show where mr comedies and other shows are being won so that's what he's trying to do and you could really feel it from what he was saying let's take a listen. yeah you should probably i believe that the lansky does not want to surrender ukraine i believe that does not dream of tying ukraine back to the russian empire but putin has such a dream if he doesn't know how to resist it today we definitely need to remove all the risks for ukraine's future. so you see petro poroshenko is saying that once you take over ukraine and selenski will not be able to withstand this so this is his message then as you mentioned. he is a comedian and is an actor and three and

a half years ago. a show that nobody had ever seen in ukraine appeared on t.v. . played the part of just an ordinary teacher of history at school who all of a sudden becomes president just because he's sick of everything and the reason why many people are voicing voting for him because for them that they see it as this is a dream come true as. such as a sort of a concept why don't we give it a try because he's seen as someone with no political experience whatsoever and what mr once is to completely get rid of the old political elite he introduced his team last night and there were no familiar faces pretty much whatsoever. what he also wants to do is to prosecute the people from the previous government he's openly saying this even once them to be in jail if they're proved to be criminals and this

is the point he kept on making during the debates. over to you which is first of all i would like to see that i'm not your opponent i'm your judge. so it is interesting the science that both taking really in the stances. do you think because obviously he's played this character this savior as people often see portrayals on t.v. running on netflix now but it's not him is it so how much impact do you think the t.v. debate will have on sundays but as i've said this was the last resort for petro poroshenko the last thing he could do to change this because the margin is still very big there's not a single opinion poll suggesting a victory for petro poroshenko very difficult for him to do something he's only got two hours to do this but obviously these debates were his last ditch effort he was definitely he felt that he was more experienced he was more loud his tone was much

more aggressive. but again with all the polls that we've been seeing and with all the support and with all the despair in the ukrainian society they hate the old political elites. in general the majority of people wants to see new faces in politics and for them mr essentially the chance to do that and we do realize right now that with the numbers we've been given by all the pollsters perhaps this is what's going to happen and he is still in spite of these debates in spite of probably some mishaps and some mistakes that is made he still has all the chances to become president of ukraine this yanira what we have seen all over the globe is anything can happen true especially in ukraine absolutely thank you. maybe as you went back to government has ended cooperation with the country of

supporting rebel forces. all relations between the interior ministry and the french side have been halted because of the french government support of the criminal have to. it is currently split between the un backed government of national accord and rival general khalifa haftar who controls the libyan national army a fortnight ago the general launched an offensive un plans to facilitate a general election. his troops are advancing from to broken the east towards the un backed government in the capital tripoli in the west hundreds have been killed over the past two weeks added to this are other militant groups active across the country but mainly in the south ati's sharleen do bensky reports now on the route between the u.s. and france over the north african nation. the un backed government in tripoli making some pretty stark allegations against the french government saying they're actually supporting the all the sides that france has categorically denied that

today with an official presidential spokesperson saying no france recognizes the u.n. backed government in tripoli that the president the prime minister. is the only person the president might go on is speaking with including as recently as this monday but of course it's not the first time that france has been accused of putting its own strategic interests in this oil rich country ahead of anything else italy has made this claim it would be very serious difference for economic or commercial reasons i brought an e.u. initiative to bring peace to libya and would support a party that is fighting as minister of the interior or will not stand by and watch what we've seen in recent weeks is an increased escalation since the beginning now the statistics say that more than two hundred people have been killed including civilians and more than nine hundred people have been injured just it's coming from

the world health organization but of course this conflict has been raging now for many years going back to two thousand and eleven when countries including france staged an intervention well mark gadhafi has lost legitimacy to lead and you must leave. you. we came we saw the guy the benefit of the world you would get rid of it right john and you would choose freedom relief thank you judy. ninety. five did you know i could have gone and i didn't have to feel. well one of the big three things that libya faces is the fact that the international community just cold to agree on a way forward and what we've heard again all warnings from the un backed government

that if the international community called heal those divisions and decide the way forward then history courage repeats itself again and libya could find itself back in those dark days of two thousand and eleven when that conflict that simple rule broke out. now facebook has put a permanent ban on some of the u.k.'s biggest far right groups under a new category defined as dangerous individuals and organizations. individuals and organizations who spread hate or attack or call for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are have no police and facebook under our dangerous individuals and organizations policy we ban those who proclaim a violent or hateful mission or are engaged in acts of hate or violence or the group is bound by facebook how far right or extreme views have become infamous for

promoting their negative attitudes towards certain groups in society so far the biggest organizations band haven't given any reaction however the knights templar are another group bound by facebook for the same reason has called it a move that would make the soviets blush well we're joined now by media commentator neil wallis and political social commentator mo thank you both for coming on to the program. let's start with you neal do you not think that this is a positive move if it manages to decrease hate speech on social media which is a problem isn't it. can i just set the record straight as it were about when you say the groups that have been bound are the biggest far right groups in britain well they may technically be but the truth is they are miniscule this is not a massive problem in britain and what this is really is an enormous buyout

of virtue signalling by an appalling company facebook and instagram who are using it purely as. a fig leaf for the fact that frankly over the last few years they have an appallingly laughable policy about keeping evil people of social media you know we could go we could have been talking about a little girl who starved herself to death because of suicide groups are allowed through. openly on instagram for instance and they do nothing about it child porn. on. facebook and instagram and they do nothing about it islamic groups like our us and their followers have put up videos of be headings of the most awful awful awful things and they have done nothing about it now i absolutely agree i

bear no. i carry no flag at all for any of the groups you mention most of whom i'd never heard of it incidently. but you know let's keep this in proportion and be let's have some consistency on this the biggest hate speech story going currently in britain for the last two years has been anti semitism within the labor party but so what facebook now going to say i will burn the labor party as well it is simply a virtue signalling these groups are loathsome but all they're doing here is giving them publicity purely to give facebook and in stone to give themselves a fig leaf of respectability and they don't deserve their disgraceful companies and they have much much to be ashamed of. do you think neil has a point where. i think these are old tired arguments and

for the likes of neil who i think is actually a very much a reasonable voice on a lot of these issues and his ilk fleet street types like piers morgan and others these are tired historic. arguments the real truth of the matter is these things are not small problems we joke ox he was murdered in twenty sixteen by man who was a member of britain first for lots of online. nationalist far right why. supremacist you'd even call them new fascist new nazi types the kind of people who are into apartheid separating the races into whites who have rights and others who don't and they are the lowest common denominator is their hate for refugees muslims asylum seekers all the rest of it they don't want blending of communities they don't want a culture ism she was murdered in twenty sixteen they've only just banned they've only just now banned britain first facebook page in twenty nineteen let's give some

context of the e.t.l. being banned i did my documentary tom robinson years and years ago we knew already from twenty eleven and twenty twelve that anders breivik who killed what was it seventy seven people wounded two hundred nine people in the norway terror attacks he had openly admitted and it was in the dossier that was came out in the court evidence was held to be correct he met with the senior leadership team he met with on rhetorical strategies the idea was to have the street gangs these radical people online to radicalize people online like terrorists just for the record neal isis are not islam they might call themselves they're not islamic let's just put that one to bed so whether you've got hate groups peddling. far right white nationalist white supremacist neo nazi stuff whether they are terrorists who are out there doing the same thing yes facebook does have responsibility this stuff

does make a difference and i completely agree we've got to protect kids they are bringing in new i think pornography security controls from is it july and i think this year it's going to be there are random and you also you can have a regular. yeah. look i wrote to trees in may and i wrote to james brokenshire who was a parliamentary under-secretary the time and she was the home secretary and i said look we need to prescribe that we need to tackle these people the methods that we use for tackling the likes of al muhajir and. street. preachers and their online. forums for doing all of their hate preaching we need to apply that same principle to the likes of the e.t.l. of britain first in the national front why is it why is it that he has taken eight years since those socialist you would call them signal virtue signallers socialist labor movement youngsters kids that were slain in norway their links that either

why did take an eight years nearly i'm going to i'm going to step back in the only slam a phobia crisis i'm going to step back in now and i'll ask you first about this neal obviously most picked up on a few points and you haven't mentioned about inciting racial hatred actually neal online which happens because the because social media is so powerful and if we consider. back to the far right groups that. i know you are actually raised in call that anti semitism no i'm sure you have. only had nearly i've also heard that. i'm a phobia you know i've heard of lot of kinds of racism but the point is social media is so full that it can incite racism can't it's you can't ignore that one of those who know and i am not suggesting in the slightest

should be it should be ignored the power of social media you do know the labor party. is quite right everything should be done within the law against it but you know i look at it this way i do not believe that i should have the right personally to decide what mo should be allowed to say and i'm very skeptical about a company right for. group run by a bunch of. billionaires from silicon valley coming from the classic liberal elite. background then are they really the people we would have guardians of this sort of thing do we really trust their judgment moment some excellent points about how he has been campaigning for years about his group you know what they big

north him entirely you know why they might did now is because they're under tremendous more pressure than ever before about the lack of social responsibility they have created this now i'm with mo i do believe this stuff is vital i come paid against it on twitter as i'm sure most would accept but what i'm really getting at here there are many many issues in the world i absolutely agree islamophobia is one of them and is another of them any kind of racist discrimination but the idea that facebook suddenly get all high pious this is a pianist like a gentleman and say we're running out of time. and a couple of words is this just this is my late fee speech. very quickly no it's just an the. european version of human rights as an article tend to we should put

limits on free speech especially around hate speech this stop in the one nine hundred thirty s. against the jews and we saw what that led to the likes of steve bannon and lynton crosby. peddling all kinds of hysteria and targeting through cambridge analytical. more than if you wake up in the trees deal with this. quick and eggs that nail. thanks very much for both coming on to the program thank you. ok that's your news and i'll be back at the top of the hour with more updates but do stay with us now for watching the hawks next on r.t. international. groupings and. the talking heads were out for force on thursday infecting our airwaves and our new streets with their massive amounts.