tv Sophie Co RT April 26, 2019 3:30pm-4:01pm EDT
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and with people. it's said that it's such a great pleasure to have you once again on our show we missed you it's been probably. so once a year it's a must and since lot of things have been happening especially in serbia kind of turbulent times protests are raging in your country since december your president is saying that he's not going to bow down to any of the demands do you think it's a good approach to actually be so hard on the protestors could it be that they will get even angrier. well you know what they want to resign he's not crazy to do that. therefore there is no need to get excited about the protests. i'm not sure if you understand here we do not have a situation where the parties in the opposition are equal in terms of the number of
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m.p.'s the number of votes we have a situation where. my party both. have more than sixty percent of the votes while all the protests have around ten percent. the difference is quite large all these protests can last for who knows how long but no one should thing that you can just come to the demonstrations and say that it has to resign. gained or lost only in the elections you know so this protest thing is actually very popular all across. france with a yellow ass protests. in france for almost half a year now and. is actually traveling. with q. and a session is to actually understand what the people want what their demands are
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things that could be maybe an option for serbia. regardless of mark. already. painted as the president. of the future of serbia. everyone can see how many people gather at the biggest opposition really as opposed to the rallies and. to give the. difference. to fifteen times as many people. difference and there really is not any political instability in all. only have various incidents. to draw attention and popularize the opposition rally. i will say this one more time everyone has the right to protest good news but the
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elections. which one can come to power. thousands of people cannot just come in front of the presidential palace plates and say that the president must resign but it's. ok i understand your point of view but whatever it is that it's taking place in therapy at in serbia is there any reason to suspect foreign involvement because usually when people come out on the streets no matter where they were shot or america is blamed for it depending on. their risk probably is certainly influenced from the outside. when something like this happens in our region the usual suspects so the western countries because they have something to gain by provoking instability since they are not friends of governments that make decisions on their own. someone is helping these
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demonstrations. on the american television channel in serbia with the participation of the people of the car parades with some cable channels this is why we suspect that the reason is certain foreign influence. this is absolutely irrelevant because they don't know that we are not floating in washington or in moscow because we are voting in belgrade. serbia is not venezuela so there's no doing things that's way he was at the. ok but if you look at the larger spectra serbia is not the only country in the balkans with protests in the street yet things staring up in kosovo and albania montenegro so when a person looks at it from the outside they're asking themselves maybe arab spring but balkan edition. but new to limitless is nothing new for us
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i've been in politics for twenty nine years i've been through all kinds of things i've seen everything in the streets. you cannot compare these protests in belgrade with protests that are happening elsewhere because you know when there are elections and when there are problems if the political difference between the government and the opposition is small then there is a political uncertainty. here the difference is huge and it is obvious that this does not pose any danger to power that is why i said he wants to talk about the future about the program through the program of these opposition parties. which the opposition consists of different parties with them some of them are extreme right wing with the unequal and others are extreme leftists who.
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are all united with. hate. or. they do not have enough support for this to cause political instability. therefore moved as far as serbia is concerned we will not see this scenario with the government to stumble through mass protests play itself out. it happened once on october the fifth two thousand. and then there is their turn no question of kosovo and just recently president has said that regardless of all the difficulties serbia and kosovo can reach an agreement to share his enthusiasm. i do not when the albanians ask for an agreement reasons i think we should recognize. they do not recognize any other arrangement and they declare the state unilaterally
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go they failed to round off the state did not become members of the united nations proposed a little did not become members of the. members of the council of europe supposed five even member states did not recognize costs of. cannot achieve a permanent solution without compromising. the ready for a compromise then i can share that enthusiasm and unfortunately since they are not ready for a compromise they have now introduced one hundred percent tariffs on goods from serbia and bosnia herzegovina and. there is no further dialogue. these tariffs are abolished therefore i cannot share this and few the. one thing is certain serbia will never recognize course of the way they did it unilaterally we will certainly not accept this unilateral act we are ready for an agreement we are ready
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for compromises but let everyone present their ideas of what a compromise could be. no such thing i think we are far from reaching an agreement supposed to go through talking about compromise let's talk about compromise within casa country's parliament has approved what it's called platform for a dialogue with serbia and then it was right away with the house of opposition do you think that could actually. this is like a good platform that could work for a dialogue but could it be scattered by hardliners from within closer. they were of course was not only the opposition or more but also the cost of the government has created a platform against this dialogue because their plan. does not allow any compromise your van platform talks about or research bin crimes how serbia should pay war reparations for the real threat of being an artificial state simplest things that
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everything is already over when they wake up from their delusions so they will have to face that cerebral reality thirteen countries would have withdrawn their recognition of course of a. meaning that. no longer has the majority to become a member of international organizations the only vision and no agreement all decision can be reached without. consent. because they do not want any compromise they want maximum. this is unacceptable for us that is why it should be clear to everyone told all the biggest obstacle to reaching an agreement again on the other hand because everyone should also be clear that no nation in europe has two states the old dainian people cannot have two states. practically means that this utopia must lend.
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is not. there someone thinks kosovo should be a state he supports greater albania clinical because it is only a matter of time until the cost of united's with. your to so many there is no zero limit here and it is the biggest threat to the stability in the region it would be . foreign minister it would take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to serbia's foreign minister even if that batch of stay with us. imagine that you run a blood bank. in one room are dead patients they've been dead since two thousand
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and eight j.p. morgan. society generali just b. c. etc and in the other room you have a living middle class people and the point of blood bank is to take blood from the living middle class people and to transfuse blood to the dead banks next door as if they've been dead now for more than ten years the people that are in the middle class are going to start to suffer and suffer horribly and many of them will die by the way they won't be getting any of the blood from the other middle class people to keep them alive all the blood all the plasma goes to the dead. even. to keep us i live he he didn't feel confident.
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foreign minister national there's a terrorist situation one hundred percent. all good serbian and even though they are actually suffering because of the stereotype saying we're not going to leave until serbia recognizes our independence that's not happening right so saying we're not going to start talks until the terrorists left it so we're.
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responsible for this. through the. talks until the terrorists. how come to be where in the world do you have one hundred percent terrorists the last one and this is proof that does not want to cooperate with us economically. they say they will revoke the tariffs serbia recognizes kosovo neutral because that's not happening to move if they do not true. then there will be no further dialogue and we will introduce measures against the. president has announced that if they do not revoke the tariffs within six months. we will wait until then then we will introduce a new counter measures listen they have one tactic to constantly actually know actually support when it comes to compromising if they do not they will form the community of serbia mr palette instead they now say they will abolish the terror of
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so if we do something in return for me though why should we do something. first they have to revoke the tariffs and then we can discuss further it appears that everyone has forgotten about the community of serb municipalities. ok and then there is the famous land swap theory that everyone's discussing lately and that would actually mean that consular give serbia its north then that is served on it and serbia would give its sad little region that is albanian dominated and everyone's happy but if that happens then saying that that's not a good thing because that could open pandora's box for the balkan region what do you think. they should have thought about it when they recognized. you know what they're saying there cannot be any border changes the borders are going on internationally recognized borders of serbia. within serbia who are the
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ones that have recognized open doors box and are reversing it and now. we suggested solutions to the problem between belgrade and prishtina you know most of these solutions were never discussed it was just the idea that was being said. there was no specific discussion on the matter it was there is no danger that it could be a challenge for others after all when they recognized. that this is the case of this suit generous. that is the case for itself now they say it will be able precedent for some other countries this is hypocritical these are double standards recognized constable do not have the right to give us lessons about the absence of a border change because they first violated this. boarders this cost over half of the. cost of a half of his costs or was never
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a state because it was always within serbia within you the slavia to get on it i also comprehend correctly that this famous land swap theory that everyone's talking about therapy is not even considering seriously. well listen this is not the land swap we have never talked about it which we are in theory read if you consider any possibility of a compromise solution. serbia believes that cost of the parts of serbia albanians believe that the whole of the cassava should be an independent state what is the compromise between these two positions. there is another thing and this is the real life. the real territory where the serbs leaving. this is practically the territory where christian does not have any authority and that is the point if we are looking for compromises we need to look for something that is real which will
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not cause problems. however the subject seems too far we have not come to this matter is up which we are now discussing the issue of charity doxie we are far from solving the problem when someone is making trouble someone else is teaching us a lesson about the land swap you. have never seen something like this particular a year ago belgium and the netherlands signed an agreement on the land swap. the story. and then. albania somewhere around all of the costs are right now we have the pro all banning protests there are taking place in kosovo and i remember tirana floating this idea of kosovo joining it as one of the regions even if that is at the expense of the many in membership to thing that could happen. we have been saying
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this from the very beginning that this is the main goal by nia i don't know if you remember but when macedonian parliament speaker. first appeared on television there was an albanian flag on his table for the next in the macedonian one on the other hand there are ten times as many albanian flies in. the cast of a. cast of ours as a nation do not exist remove albanians and serbs in kosovo this is why this is a threat to the stability in the region the e.u. does not see that the countries that recognize the course of have given the basis for albania to discuss it at all. there are great objections now until they nears behavior but there are no direct condemnations or reactions brussels does not. or any other country the same way they condemn serbia and what the serbian people
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to. these are your double standards imagine of serbia was to say that the republican. should be a part of serbia. so be so when you are saying that served in northern ca could be expelled like ninety five by people with minds who do you mean who are those people with clout in mind. well i'm referring to the albanians amongst the cassava leadership there are those who could think of something like that. now this creates a big problem. for does not react then serbia will have to react because it causes political and regional instability that is why i say that there is a great danger in instability in cost and that is why it is important to resign. that there is some agreement between belgrade and. that is why we are warning about
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this kind of danger. in advance that the international community will not see belgrade quietly while serbs are being killed in the north of. as it unfortunately happened. then i want to talk a little bit about nato because twenty years after the nato. says. have for a given but we're not going to forget what's going to happen so right now serbia cop reigning with nato having exercises. for serbian people project digest that. we cooperate primarily to maintain normal relations. surrounded by. running security forces in. brussels agreement there is no obligation.
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for to guarantee that the albanian armed forces. in the north. this cooperation is limited to military neutrality we do not want to join and we will not become a member of nato when it comes to nato aggression our people still think the worst of. this is a war crime committed against serbia and the serbian people. so you're right that's already circled by nato countries as and further time passes more balkan countries will be joining nato that's a fact because there are aspirations i mean how hard is it going to be first serbia to just sort of like stand in a corner and watch how everyone around is joining the alliance. the same as before we already surrounded. the same before when the warsaw pact existed
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we were not members of the warsaw pact we have a policy of military neutrality and its will remains just that if you look at force our people think the vast majority of serbian which in serbia is joining. therefore. we can forgive them and go in the sense that we will cooperate with the countries that bombed us but this is something that cannot be forgotten memories at least not by our generation us again. ok let's talk a bit about qana me i heard your construction minister recently say that china serbia's best friend and right now what we see is that the european continent is a little cautious about china is trying to limit chinese investment in the continent and all of that so do you think this close friendship of china and serbia could actually because you are pressured by the you with your relations and about your relations with russia do you think you can be further pressured with your
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relations with china. we'll it's something normal. we are resistant to pressure thank have objections to everything. china the way. we abolished visas for india indonesia the west objects we abolished visas for russia the objects of human know we're signing a free trade agreements with the eurasian economic union the object there is a problem only when serbia is friendly they have no objections when a crash is friends with china when hungary's friends with china when germany's friends with china these are double standards so it's the same with the germans and the northern european countries that can use russian gas from the north stream but the serbs should not use russian just a little bit because they will be done by germans and others would be these are
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double standards. that's actually in my last question because that's another point of divergence between serbia and the turks training pipeline that's going to pass through through turkey from russia through turkey and the balkans very wary about it and your energy minister says no a survey will not pressure but one heard that before with bulgaria and south but look what happened are you sure that it's not going to happen with turks treatment therapy at the same thing that happened with gary at. the companies that will build the infrastructure and distribute the jazz. differently to the high of i completely agree with you that there is a lot of pressure everyone against the stream pipeline on the other hand what are the implications now turkey has joined the project and now it is called
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the. serbia has finished all the. paperwork the construction of the four hundred kilometers of pipeline has already begun in our country which but i hope that everything in bulgaria will be alright sort of critical to that there will be no obstacles this time so it's a buddhist of course this is the main reason for political pressure on serbia but nobody else. thank you very much for the entry and good luck with everything thanks. to facebook and google started with a great idea and great ideals unfortunately it was also
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