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durable why do republican or democrat coke or pepsi but first the consulting editor of the daily mail and your peers is here to keep us abreast of a chaotic week in the british breaks a crisis thanks for coming on you've been on british t.v. norm stop it seems at all hours of the day think the issues are getting lost in this process of parliamentary chaos i think i've got lost with the issues to what is the issue now is the incompetence and chaos in ten downing street never before have i seen a prime minister humiliated by not one but four cabinet ministers who refused to support a normal circumstances they will be taken out and shot none of them are being fired because she has a little tricky not literally no but you would expect a prime minister to have hemorrhage that much support to had a visit from the men in gray suits that we wanted to women of course in the equal age of equality to say here's the poll handed evolve a prime minister time to go but does that work anymore because of the i want to get

to war going to present itself but it was in tatters time it was different that only twenty two could be all of those things are off the table there aren't any pool handed revolvers there are actually because the low the tories have used up their one shot to the back benches had one chance to get rid of her you have one vote a year they did that in december and one hundred seventy without their support what can happen is cabinet ministers can withhold their support threatened to resign or mask and i have to tell you during this extraordinary week i have never known a week like it and i've been working at the house of horrors on and off since one nine hundred eighty eight i couldn't find one m.p. who thinks to reason may has a long term survival rate in downing street the lady is on the way out even away from college green opposite parliament there's a whole section of a kind of leftish bent who say we should be reforming the european union for me inside what do you think this whole process is toward us about if. we had tried to

reform brussels of the european union from the inside instead of bricks it the some people were arguing that at the time that we should have tried to reform brussels from within look we've had successive prime ministers have been down that route named. john major people remember him it's beyond reform it has five unelected presidents joke it spending is out of control it's accounts are never written off they are never going to divest power back to mother parliament it is a rotten organization in the any piece the half of their expenses they don't have to account for a single penny of it it's a rotten in my view and the way they have bullied britain shows we joined a club with the most vicious people running it well for all the alleged corruption there remarkably unified of the twenty seven members against. the british different conceptions and ideals and certainly in support for ireland they're united for one reason they're terrified of a country going to follow britain and lead the european union we are one of the

biggest contributors and they're trying to say to the rest of your it's not easy to leave us the rules of this cover pretty tough the five presidents all men notice going to do everything in their power and they still are to try to keep britain in that's the game for them they want to drag this process out as long as possible because they cling to the hope they'll be a second referendum in britain and that would result in a different outcome i'm telling you it would not all of this process in parliament seems to be going the way of jeremy corbin's policies curiously reluctant to measure the second round of referendum which you just said is all the gods really do you think the overriding concern here is being not letting generally cool been in well once labor backbenchers against the tories against the. i mean some people think if this whole thing collapses that there will be an early wreck general election there's a lot of labor m.p.'s trust me who don't want to enter election because there is terrified as i am that jeremy called in when the general election they don't trust

him they think they'll be a flight of capital out of great britain they're right it's already started and of course it's informing a lot of the decisions but the odd thing is always already in control i don't think he is i don't think he's in control the big humiliating defeat for the prime minister this week was to play down by a back bencher called yvette cooper who resigned from corbin's front bench never before have you seen how out of step the labor leadership is with its own backbenchers you don't see these as the sinister triangulations of corbin's team chambers will the that your newspapers be operating i let me tell you very well never jeremy corbin's team don't talk to most of the m.p.'s on their own benches because they're in a bunker and they're a cult and a small sect and that's why we. some m.p.'s defecting to this new independent group and i think more will because this problem about the second referendum is a huge problem for a lot of labor m.p.'s remember when he became labor leader comrade corbin he said

that the party conference will be the platform where policy is made we won't have policies made on the on the downing street sofa which is the way tony blair did it the party conference labor last year said never really general election you want to second referendum he's ignoring he's well he said if a general election really started happening where it's not coming to you just say there was a lame money on ok well let's go to donald trump he's been tweeting my administration looks forward to negotiating a large scale trade deal with the u.k. the potential is unlimited that was before the article fifty debate in parliament countries lining up already i'm sure there are we are this economy is booming there was a statement a financial statement this week which is almost overlooked by the chancellor philip hammond where he showed trade growth is slipping a bit but jobs have been created at record numbers the economy the economic fundamentals are good and strong and we've got a good story to worry or even preliminary deals with japan turkey and your career

these of the countries uncle was the pharaoh linage i don't mean there is a pharaoh i was yes go she wrote this very important ok what about we should have done better we should have done better but i know for a fact liam fox the international development sector has been flying all around the world with these t. stride to drum up support and i think some of these trade deals will be fall into place much quicker than people think trump loves great britain just finally what what stories could be buried during all this wall to wall coverage of the bricks of debate because philip hammond the chancellor said again that welfare was going to be frozen rountree trussing five hundred sixty pounds a year worse off for poor families and also a naive privacy to be saying it's nothing to do with the more complex issues it's just the police are one hundred. billion for the police yeah one hundred million for the police ridiculous when we could fourteen billion pounds every year to international aid for don't you african despots to spend on their private jets and their palaces i support giving money for internationally but not such

a huge amount of money just some of the dodgy places i would control what the money spent on i would have i would want to wear my money's going and the hundred million pounds that they've announced to the police isn't even threats to offices it's for overtime overtime he said these hard pressed police officers already working flat out have to work even harder to make up the fact twenty two thousand police officers numbers were cut by a certain home secretary to mention her name it was treason may again do chris thank you well while u.k. media focuses almost exclusively on the backs of crisis u.s. authorities are building their attack on julian the sons of drug to detention in britain is determined by the u.n. refusing to cooperate in the grand jury against the wiki leaks founder as collateral murder army whistleblower chelsea manning already having been tortured she's now known for outspoken views on freedom the rise of authoritarianism and his encroaching in every aspect of life whether it's government are corporate or. technological chelsea manning was jailed this week with an indefinite sentence

until as the virginia judge said she purges about the circumstances of a revealing to the world the extent of nato nation war crimes her case arguably compass is philosophical concepts of the nato military industrial complex ranging from freedom to neo colonialism to the illusion of consumer choice i'm joined now by skype from bianca by one of the world's most popular living philosophers. so i welcome to going underground before we get on the philosophical concept of the rest of the news your thoughts about chelsea manning the former intelligence operative who is of course tortured we had p.j. crowley over the state department will give out that she's been jailed again what do you think. i don't think it's especially not on an event on i think it's more of a kid here sign of the day but out of the industry of the american establishment to get good young astonished. that plastic you better well deborah is doing because

what they are putting pressure on her to give her mark dot dot about how she was contacted we expand it here at that point he made by me the dot dot he or she call it that and so on and so on so i see d.d. is lot of be on going getting stronger and stronger campaign against weak and i think when people talk about liberals freedoms and so on and so on. yes almost make it make many mistakes but he's great in mark even the contribution needs to make us aware of the extend the week we don't let my people lay that and so on and so on and for me the best face of so many in the west coast is google is just a private got a lot of buzz and they say now people that criticize us don't wish for not ducking or are some are but i mean to be very cynical here and nobody like my own sarah

burton that i started to have been trying not to stand up in a sense that you don't believe in a western style you don't leave it out that it's in bottom to show how you want to condone you know magic because they believe that fully in death he dove they think they are funny and dumb or if you think you are sleep well can be moderately but instead of the income that we have and so on the mark i'd leave your home throw this to me i'd go off all of these digital forms of compatibility don't even appear as an experiment as far as that is controlling you that by association will be crashed and this may be established when mobilized or it's far since i don't people know it's got. even by big public media which are considered more on the left like in united in going back out yeah they are must be less lately in their i mean most against so much you had to do the science under arbitrary detention here of course in london and his work on google but this week the british government says that

these powerful tech companies it's more a question of consumer choice whenever people are saying it freedom of choice i mean the i stand you know left leaning stand allegedly about freedom yes we don't but they don't for whom we don't walk. they just yesterday dr joyce freedom of course the truth is what what our act while trying my metaphor here is that most of the trial issues that media present week jaycee's in the style of their own bad go or a diet back here these are choices we didn't start occlude labor because you managed lead and we move out of there will lead to go even into much more of. a cause you also been writing about the fact that those who perhaps sympathize with that they've kind of failed i mean you mentioned series of course in greece

the cradle of western democracy the us continuing war in venezuela we've had anti semitism so he has here against a recall been left leaning congresswoman accuse of these things yet you say that actually. there's new needs to be pessimistic yes i agree with what you're sad and i think this is so very sad lesson for those who still want to be left there it's all too easy to invest all energy inc ok despising don't you want our guy now being united states and so on and so on but we should never forget that the new nationalist bob police moved east the result of the state here. of the liberal democratic better or even less than i think the establishment is becoming aware of these we could see by moment more moving at least minimally authentic less who questioned most of the liberal establishment what campus lately in the united

states only going to meet docs on but only send us a call so he's really a little bit out of there it's a mobile phone establishment loves and that's my point crazy as it may sound the don't back date is not we open liberal lunatic outlet or least whatever first it was new york actually still i know throughout the day in united states. they're starting to try to maybe the fate of the country east what goes on in the democratic might favor same kamala's a dog there is great disorder under heaven so if you do a solution excellent this might. just be great oh but there is no link consensus instead actually situation we shouldn't get better just go into a panic oh my god let's all unite against fight use that i wish for retain our cool

and see opportunities how we can use the situation where keep something in the direction of the market i because next time i'm going to stop them or from professors leverage it off of this record. so we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy from sunday shouldn't let it be an arms race based on often scary dramatic bad to follow the link and into the resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and top. welcome back i'm still with the loss of a sad voice in shock it has to be said that one response to people who talk about progress say the problem is actually fake news you've used the phrase

uncontrollable plurality don't you think that first what. fate can use that nothing you know let me turn to be out of the cold war we can't speak not i did he was going to leave but i'm not at peace so he is going to not be both in the stands in some sense one beak fake us scotty so i think what those in the establishment when when they do people all fake news is not lice stopped it some of it it's no longer one then put out a lie that they can't control you know fact all race bought all this sort of india logic or that not the starving they stop nothing post-modern indeed so here i would crack jokes when people are faking it the most effective and dangerous lives

lives which operate waged by shows you're correct sound doctrine which are undoubtedly true if you organize them into an idea we pleased in itself and i show you no beliefs no easy way out here like oh we really don't you're just just the truth and so on and so on but the trump thinks the news is so important in the media you think that say in the case of venezuela fake news from liberal media wouldn't be enough to overthrow the bill of aryan revolution he does will require military at last i'm a mad man i quote that against palin who made. me question twenty nine i think and i drink or let lefties be asian she said both are west i think both sides out west at oppression he too asian in venice the way a lot but you know what's so dangerous about guide dog of course of course united united states but you know you i get my do up i got into it again the enemy of

truth in meat that our food grabbers in venezuela i'm going to. probably out of control i'll probably ends meet the police operation and so on and so on this work mate relatively effective it is still a bit mediocre steadman this to a lot and so on and so on so again i repeat my point is the most dangerous fake news in the us and so far as you know logical politically motivated propaganda in. many relate to the truth we us and them and of truth ok will you blame i mean the inherently blame maduro that partly then do it do you think you can just by actually yes it's obvious you have a point that's my stand that i think the basic problem that i see meet my poor and the really big job is not me but i don't beat. corruption or what they're about it's a very sad mad message that. even childish already and especially by

the were are they didn't believe in. the stock being finding often include people who don't buy the benefit of the free market they make on a possible experiment please show shooting broke out of the coffin of use and so on and so on so it's not just morally. it's already said lester about the base mark because they don't really care if you but. i really i thought you actually praised chavez world as different attempts but i'm going to ask you really. isn't a damned but already equal speed and i follow a good job is the situation closely it's clear that she was just a lucky guy by a lucky i mean carrying enough money from oil and they wanted to want to buy and then a lot of well stocked ink and you know. so she has a spare production which can be organized in

a different way from garbage that he didn't keep paid and i think that i mean that you are not to get a frank think i think that ken's and that's the big lesson of economic neocolonialism good a great natural resource east can be carse a great course i'm not going to claim that maybe if all of a sudden most of an issue ls the immense oil reserves are going to disappear maybe the market do what it will lose interest in fairness to a lot and maybe at some other modest lad out there with compound and you're right but what if i can just go to the european union obviously i mean what do you if you are an advisor to the british government would you be trying to overturn the result of the referendum and keep britain in the european union or do you see that thousands drowning tens of thousands drowning in the mediterranean let alone the imprisonment of cattle and politicians mean no country could ever be part of this

institution no i fear maybe our positions are a little bit different i'm well aware of all the limitations of the battles bureaucracy and so on and so on i basically think that why then do east european don't you know i'm so universally pay day by the seat that i think that nonetheless in spite all of these. options and so on and so on that are about others inefficiencies bank release and so on and so on i think don't wait out it's not back but actually it has dangerous. illusion in debt to pay the way to liberate ourselves from the control room that was not copied out until well into you ought to return to us the whole going to nation. i think. but i think far more the second think many british people even the

financials mind claim we won't do that it is to part us off but we want to got loose from brussels to meet with us and the banking or financial regulations we want to build a stronger welfare state and so on and so on weight and meaning i remember blatter government got in conflict wheat bassus blair that rejected it and made us to protect the environment and the imposition of a much you know i would just rather trust or some be allowed to better during the week and so on and so one so but my point about it why then if you are bothering anybody bob i think that the idea all your life if you are wrong if you did something in the present far about you just to be change of course it's well i think far it's that i'm just not sure that it is your scheme and isn't we try

school regularly didn't invest and of course i think that we we really need these mark and legs so how far would you have how would you go with this reformist so the voyage is a reformist agenda then obviously thousands and thousands of dead or injured on the streets of paris over the village on the said tell us about his others i saw you know you actually did begin to fake us are you serious in saying that well there are three thousand injured at least ten deaths linked with the protests before today's g they join dema yet again the things that are much more ambiguous here for me it's easy to say what you are saying where. i'll get out and meet him at a profit of gallo west they also know that i'm at the they will stink they're wasting their time then being felt well again however you are too many for me to think that if left in peace they would be able to propose. that program no

that's wrong at least i claim don't dally in close event because the future of ake well pleased movement in good condition the only way i would be handed to the bar yellow west but the way they are moving canal then they'd just move gradually in the direction of. some type of. or last and that the state money in the bank bought at least national least. i am no longer have that that many less i called. him to go he spoke of are going to be put in the financial well are going to be for that. we should listen to eat we can learn something from eat walk last practice in a nice way we could buy damage in spain like go to beat forget about their dealers you go if you see leasing do a lot of the many people have to know you know then book the way and that at the

state we produce them just to see how they are oh so you can but he doesn't include their own you will be and not get. less than a mask of wrong doing by listening but one of the many people is going to stop even criticised by ordinary people feel are saying a call for the left to embrace its radical western roots as well as what he said about refugees there are tens of thousands drowned in the mediterranean thanks to the cameron sarkozy war in libya not just europe the weather troops doc don't of the problem what made new yorker are at least exploitation off i think i can count that it's what happened in kiryat in iraq who cooked up the guys you spat and so on and so on if you're just open up it's bar dust then it could be a catastrophe because it just happened by let me ocular pretty clear here we can't know for on a very difficult choice either. any guns are coming in allow to flow in

but in disgrace we have to abolish democracy because the majority of the people he's clearly against and so on and so on so we have to and i didn't really change the approach here no can really meet our standards again germany got the space my god if you dish out there let's step back again and ask our stance how we are competing in order to think generating to do a clean sweep make it your standpoint nonetheless there is a something that many people to be a lot like europe did not embellish at least germany received quite many but if you teach just look and on best how many if you place in found not to mention generally not an issue in spite of the horrors of the ongoing. what about other companies you know any time but indeed for me the other book standing in if you put it in. if you please read only. egypt and so on saudi arabia oh why

baccarat in and out gotta how many refugees did they accept the sheep not what is going gone down and the same companies i don't proclaim euro forty two were sent very close up and so on and so book it really doesn't tell how many refugees would like to be in those countries arguably but i'm going to finally i'm going to finish though with the title i don't think now because this sounds nice and human but i think. it's pretty didn't understand the you know give if you get there if you're dreaming that right truth dead date well then you know much of what crazy community even is for me don't use being dead the basic human right to bait eat that you're going to move though any company of your choice and the amount of dade county don't they get of you i think the means. explosion.

followed in dead country issues not. option so you think that the refugees basically want their cake and eat it and they want the welfare state and i don't think they want to be clear many of them not all want to be. in the stench of enjoying the benefits of the developed western companies but. dead they don't want the investigation into the west lifestyle i am asking you what do you hope that's ok there i know i know and that's. ok don't over list of targets do you know i'm ok dead we should be in europe do you really want to take out there any. chance of anybody can come and go on to eat eat their way of life but on the other hand we should respect demo meant but when we denounce the shame of party jump down to show us some of our people and so on well that's it for one of your favorite shows from

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