what's already been known and pub and published. second there's almost no concrete evidence to suggest that it was the russian government itself much was the sort of from a. design that was implementing a comprehensive strategy designed to determine the outcome of the presidential election that evidences some from. most of it is some or based upon the assumption that any russian. citizen of consequence awol some of his close to mr putin bugged out is not substantiated but was presented in the report well i would also take issue with sweeping we know that the miller probe indicted thirteen russian nationals on conspiracy charges that's in relation to social media campaign and twelve on

hacking and dumping charges can twenty five people realistically even try to sweep the election in a country of three hundred twenty seven million can be really do it in the quote systematic way though i don't cause if we're looking at is are key in practical terms in the hypothetical a and setting aside for a moment the question as to whether there was a winning strategy no. new no american politics its own dynamic and intensity and the notion that somebody playing games at the margins of the election could could dictate or even influence the outcome is frankly frankly absurd. most of their food to compare russia with you know it is states the united states has been fall more effective in influencing. into the domestic politics of other countries the un russia. i

mean where during the day and how the overt ways and venezuela and iran and syria of doing that in russia reach i hope we can discuss but before we go there you sound a little bit skeptical about the scale of russian interference but i personally am it's important to point out that the crime and denies any connection to both ways of. the operations that miller pointed out the social media can be an end to hacking but i personally find the hacking and the dumping story believe it will because this is something that intelligence services around the world due to each other they find vulnerabilities and they exploited them what i don't understand is why would the americans expect to be treated with the kid gloves particularly by the russians because americans believe or we believe there were exceptional.

prue augured as nobody knows. who were in a position and the have some kind of obligation and. to set the rules on true applause. from our own perspective and all this tendency which is really reserved in you know in a country sort of history and so definition center has become much more pronounced and so far as international affairs is concerned. with the end of the cold war and most especially the last few years as you know under mr mr trump you know in terms of hacking or so they'll as electronic surveillance don't forget we know know that they enter say. you know applying electronic surveillance to national leaders. or on the world including. in chancellor

merkel in germany it was made evident substantiated in the wiki leaks release is five five years ago and i assume eve the american intel had stumbled upon evidence of putin's wrongdoing they would not hesitate to release it would they no doubt would simply be a practical calculation of whether it was seen to be the advantage of you know of washington i said may want of a point all the. personal and all. of causes well they do have some indirect knowledge in fact as has been made public and there are a cli conversant people experts who have worked in the national security agency including a former technical director of the national security security agency who are version that the forensic evidence makes it clear that there was no hacking that

instead someone within their agency downloaded those files and pass pass them on and that has never been refuted and this is also that we kill leaks also alleges now the miller report specifically states that in the view of the investigators russia perceived it with benefits from a trump presidency and that's why it worked to secure that outcome do you agree with that assessment that. russia would be counting on trump more than it would be hoping to discount mrs clinton were let's let's be down to hours of this you have two people running for the presidency and. one mrs clinton has called mr putin the new hitler the other is making considered dettori noises. of his ability to cooperate or least to

engage with with mr putin for whatever reason it wasn't based in on mr trump sort of serious systematic assessment but who any case that's what he was say so if that's the choice. that it's evident they're doing her performance and any reasonable rational person would have for folks what you do about it or don't do and what effect you might lose a surfer questions well i think there's also a very specific russian context here because for the russians the clintons have come to you a pizza mob actually interference i mean it's not a secret that bill clinton worked very hard to get boris yeltsin elected as russian president in ninety nine to six sending his aides to moscow trashing the i'm asked for a ten billion dollar loan hillary clinton also made her preferences known they had

of the two thousand and twelve elections when you consider all that clinton's history with russia didn't they legitimized luxor all interference long ago by the own example but yes you set a precedent. but that is something we're. political elite tends to ignore and goes back to this notion which is very deeply rooted and there are a can psyche you know to states being exceptional and having the right true true things and to judge all those. little alone. is. not there to understand they have to produce fully to american psyche and it becomes more a matter of psychology an ounce of all of the politics but it is a fact that a lawyer. the way north united states behave sets precedence for other country

and legitimate as it is no motion the problem of it and the thinking of let's call it the political class in a row in washington that is an unfortunate reality of the situation but it's not only about the american public opinion it's also about. what people in other parts of the world think because i mean it is the paradox of the american power that the american president has a much broader foreign policy discretion to a fact lives of people in other countries than in his own country mrs clinton if elected she would her actions would have a much greater bearing on my life or people in syria than dan merica ends and i just wonder what is the you know of the appropriate the legitimate where we all you

know voicing the concern about these kind of flitter should because she does have a very very long and i would say very destructive track record it's very rare of her foreign policy issue war determine a national presidential election it's almost always domestic issues of one kind or another. shape the debate and influence how people vote second there tends to be there is a tendency. to give the president free. to do what he wishes to do and from the way that domestically some of this is legal constitutional some of it is institutional. some of it has to do with the fact simply that there is more consensus generally speaking on foreign policy matters than there is on on domestic matters. you know that's certainly true today and most

pacifically in regard true true russia and always this image of russia as a hostile power is pervasive in the states again for a variety of other sort of complex reasons well professor brown and we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. let me let me.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy to confront a shouldn't let it be an arms race based on often spearing dramatic developments only going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical of time to sit down and talk. should this have come too late to pursue this i live eat it up are good for yourself then. you need.

we have. this is. why some people take our things all the power just for themselves. three more. of our jobs.

created in california. going to be. doing drugs my nephew drugs my sister just with drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is. sort of the users in the prison population who are we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the. war on drugs. with numbers of people who are in prison for. for. minor offenders. it's a lot watching your children grow up in issue in waves and say by. the. it's just

it doesn't get easy. welcome back to will's apartment michael brown and professor emeritus of international affairs at the university of pittsburgh professor brennan just before the break we were talking about how. i think there were legitimate upper hand about the kind of flipping that secretary clinton could have presented to the world not to that americans but to the world especially dealing with her policy record in libya and syria but i think we may never know the full details of how those decisions were made because the clinton camp intentionally destroyed a lot of electronic records without ever facing the abstraction of justice charges do you think she has anything to worry about now that mr trump has been cleared

no no she does. history. at this point. you know we should bear in mind the it's true but the conclusion of the motor report was that there had been no collusion between mr trump for and his immediate associates on the russian government you know most of those meetings in fact to do with trump's real estate dealings and of a business activities involve involving russia. but what he's been cleared of in effect concluded that there probably was instructed obstruction of justice if there was a good deal of evidence love her but. frayne for

pressing them a little the lay on the grounds that you can indict a sitting american president no we should say that's not constitutional it is not in the law or it is simply customary practice hole policy or or or understanding that means it's up to the congress whether it wants to take that evidence and make it the basis for impeachment but that's not going to occur of oh there's no appetite for the i don't sense republicans control the senate. it's a closed question what i don't understand is that how you kill you how you can accuse somebody of obstructing justice when there is no underlying crime because it's very clear from the miller reported that chomped and people around him received what was going on the the probe as a great injustice to him and in retrospect i wonder if they should actually be

credited for exercising restraint rather than trying to obstruct what seemed to be a political injustice i mean there is no underlying crime how can he abstract or you can you can obstruct the process the legal process whatever its outcome. in other words the obstruction of justice bill interfering with an investigation is a crime. and so though could be legal if mr trump or an ordinary citizen. would be a legitimate legal basis for the suing him. prosecuting him the seeking in and for obstruction of justice now that issue has been raised by some other republicans but i believe from what i understand that that's really a specious issue and rudy doesn't have any legal standing but if the concern is

really so much with the with the process we know from n.b.c. reports that the clinton camp did everything they accuse trump all they relied on the for in their it's you against compromising information on him they handed out compromising in fraudulent material to the media and to the intelligence agencies they destroyed the records i mean they destroyed their phones and their e-mail records isn't dr worth looking into for the sake of democracy and the equal equal treatment before a lawyer if nothing else there is but that's politics that's not a law or potential is sort of criminality in other words the points the molar may under the heading of obstruction of justice refer to his investigation and other. in other words a sump law it's simply

a question of the games you play or the dubious actions you take to do influence with the political process and that's was very often as was the case with richard nixon forty five years ago it's what happens once the legal process has begun and it often leads to acts of criminality and sends people to. rather than the original action of initiated the process in the first place the u.s. attorney general william barr already pledged to investigate the the origins of the f.b.i. counterintelligence investigation into russia. there is a suspicion that they may be another collusion the collusion between the democrats and the intelligence services if proven how big of a deal it's going to be you for a demo can publicly it's a big deal if there were any truth to it but this is

a propaganda campaign mr ball i don't think is just. an agent of mr trump he was just a point to a few months ago after a long interviews with mr trump and on a fact he. so well this process in a quite disgraceful fashion as a spokesman for for the white house he has no credibility in the minds of anyone but republican partisan but i suppose it's well it's not going to be him personally looking into that if he were to appoint somebody like let's say robert miller again to investigate another killer collusion do you do you think that would have more credence in your eyes no i think at the end of the day. highly doubtful that he'll do. just making political points you know the american electoral campaign has

already begun we're going to have to suffer through it for the next eighteen months and so everything becomes khaled you know including foreign policy but professor brennan help me understand here because for the last two years did democrats have been making political points about the miller investigation why is it not ok to lead the republicans do the same and settle die suspicions through the. investigative process because there are real issues about the the provenance of the still dots here and whether or not it was used to get five warrants etc why those issues are not serious enough to be looked into given that the last two years respond into investigating as trump likes to say a nothing burger or. nothing burger or. actually trump from francis or mcdonald's cheeseburgers but we consume as.

all day long but seriously this is not the democrat who appointed mr it was it was the federal gov a. republican president with a republican attorney general with a career office in the justice department many prosecutors who have a track record of benefiting the democratic and contributing to the democratic campaign i mean i think the republicans have also made a point that they would be have certain parts leanings no that's the unfortunate i don't believe correct mr mo him so as or always classified him so as not just a republican but a conservative republican mr khomeini has always. called him so a conservative republican mr all sting has no political allegiance

whatsoever of which we know so if these people have such stellar reputations why not asking them to look into issues that a significant part of that melich american electorate is concerned about i mean i know many people on the republican side and they do believe that it was a political hit job to appoint this probe and they do have issues with hillary clinton and her destruction of records. the use of the steel dossier and how it was procured how it was used by the intelligence services why is that not enough to look into by somebody who you all can trust well this was looked into by by the f.b.i. by and by they call me a comber is a loyal republican he's not a he's not a democrat. and so this was looked and true and then the let's bear in mind we come to the dubious deal those are it's over.

it's a very intricate background. and that there were people who were in both the russians saw it and their merkins who were hustling who were trying to sort of promote them so and while offering material to both sides to the republicans on that and the democrats. and. with regard to the steel goes. this war was involved. six in britain is mushers a did anyone in washington and this aspect of the like has really not gotten much attention just as the script paul if there is only a concoction of m i five and six was the systems well i think

many russians would they grieve you on the letter character is they should now we have only a few minutes left let me ask you one thing that many here in moscow are hoping for there is a hope that the miller probe and the clearing of trump will allow him to be more flexible in his relations with russia and allow him to work with moscow on issues of global importance do you think that's likely no. i think that's exaggerated. i don't see any change of any consequence whatsoever in terms of washington's thinking of attitudes towards or policies and rigo true true russia let's bear in mind too saying there's a very strong consensus throughout the american political establishment that rusher is a dangerous hostile power which is shared by republicans and democrats on the

media. and second look at mr trump's actions it's knowledge that he simply been hesitant it engaging with the mr putin he has confronted rush for across the board whether it has to do with nato expansion military exercises on the ploy months and. in europe whether it has to do with the breaking of all those control agreements whether it has to do was syria another word for mr mr trump as been have been has been. not at all considered tori we were there we go all the true russia and mr putin and i think that's one of the real harms of the last two years that a pathologist any efforts to improve the relations between our countries despite them being nuclear powers anyway professor brennan we have to leave it there we are

out of time but i really appreciate you being with us today and sharing your perspective thank you very much for that well you're very welcome much appreciated the opportunity i'm courage of yours to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and hope to see you again same place same time here on worlds apart.

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