is a big day for anyone in the world conscious of this global multinational here using celebrities to promote clean energy initiatives. today a quarter of the hague in all and decide on whether the company they're promoted by artists jennifer hudson pixie lott and others is responsible for what amnesty international calls horrifying human rights violations this is just one of the cases that has made the headlines of nigerian t.v. one of the widows of the nine men killed spotted arjan military governments in one thousand nine hundred five is accusing all the time shell of alleged complicity in the unlawful arrest the tension and execution of her husband and eight others shells has produced no warlow gas from a gurney fields since nine hundred ninety three but admits that are going to land continues to serve as a transit route for pipelines transporting shell oil to other areas whatever today's court decision about alleged shell collusion in the execution of the ogoni

nine the u.n. has already issued a report on the effects of the company's investment in nigeria this report is the first of its kind it's a scientific study of the impact of oil pollution on the niger delta or at least in one particular part of the niger delta and there's never been a scientific study before and the report reveals why it spread devastating impacts of pollution and it talks about how the people of the goalie learned how to live with this pollution for decades the report reveals the impact on economic social cultural rights on the right to food the right to water the right to health. laws the entire community and the walkouts well we're walking to all of them. because they can go to fish now is to see already a war place where there was no fish or. day shells says it has publicly called for calling for reconciliation among the goalie's and between the ago knees and shell and that it continues a community development program in the area. the fact it is no longer an oil

producing area nevertheless the multinational face increased scrutiny after the london extinction rebellion protests which involved protesters damaging shell's u.k. headquarters i protested yesterday as that action was ending because i feel you know it's absurd that i was walking off in handcuffs for criminal damage to the shell building when shell itself has been one of the main biggest polluters who has caused the largest amount of irreversible very serious harm that is happening all around the world the climate the destruction that we're seeing as a result of you know thirty years of too little too late the of the actual environmental lawyer who helped draft the landmark twenty fifteen paris agreement for her you know mean there about why she superglued a self and shell in london and joining me now is the former mayor of london ken livingstone to go through some of the week's headlines thanks again for going on before we go to this headline is slightly wrong in the wonderful daily mail

apparently after forty years of noise and smears finally the daily mail was forced to apologize pay them out on sunday ran a story a couple weeks ago saying i had said that it wasn't anti semitic to hate the jews of israel now fortunately for the first time in my political career that had been done. on the internet and so everyone could go and see i never said that at all because i saw that and the minute i saw the mail i had learned thought you know what i don't think we should have been living soon i mean this is the power of what they're doing i still get people to now three years since that labor m.p. john mann claimed i said it was design yes i still get people stop know as they say why do you say it was a zionist idea well i explained i never did it quite happy that go away you know but it was the after forty years one that's taken forty years and the one they had a big banner headline was buried away on page four well let's go to argue with the main story. emitted from our neighbors agendas and brianna on death row to surpass

two hundred thirty thousand by the end of this year that's a u.n. report so quarter of million and i mean literally a you've had a block eight social medicine is counting food can came in disproportionately i think almost majority of those who died to children it's appalling and why isn't that dominating our news headlines here is america backing and britain backing saudi arabia britain surprising the weapons that saudi arabia uses to bomb yemenis and it's bombing hospitals it's bombing school is supporting one child every twelve minutes i should say it is across parts. of the support for this it's not a party political since we have cornered on selections of britain even though this is happening in the other european countries they're stopping arms exports in

germany say yes but mary britain is america's principal ally on you we've just gone along with virtue of their wards and i mean we are certainly with i think we're spending something night thirty times more on research in military than we're doing on and tackling climate change research and things from a. military industry i am weapons producing firms have had a huge improvements over labor and tory governments for decades and decades and that's a big part of our economy well you just mentioned climate change at all those who think we'd lose jobs looks good with his left foot forward then governments should shift support from arms trade to revive it is exactly the point i just by keep very literally we could create hundreds of thousands of new jobs in britain if we invested in me creating all the technology to make our homes the inch of eighty eight put solar panels on our roofs and. invest in wind farms and that would be the

quickest way of bringing down our carbon emissions and saving our planet but you know the first thing this government did when it got elected back in two thousand and ten was slash spending on tackling climate change i mean supporting of course your successor in the way city current mayor of london came under a bit of pressure for allowing the extinction rebellion to talk about the environment on the streets of london he then said to the extinction rebellion people you had your fun as it were what would you have done differently would you have led the demonstrations i would have encouraged the demonstrations because the simple fact is as david happened our recently said in one of his programs we face extinction by the end of the century so i'm not surprised that kids are out there they want don't want to drop in a world in which their children to become extinct because of climate change and it's the biggest threat to human life on the face of this planet so i would be encouraging on to say carry on with it on to michigan and join them and you think more should be done about the. quality there have been ages in the civil economy

legislation he has now started the introduction a new system the tragedy is i started at just one of the election to bars virtually the first thing he did was stop all that and then under bush's eight years ninety five thousand londonistan my difficulty died prematurely again because there was a need boris was appalling well boris johnson is welcome to come on this program to defend the environment even in the united states under the cortez the new generation of democrats they seem to be raising this arms control renewables again something that i think you see just means that to be a big very good election in spain where the that the socialist party i mean as now measures that the new government with today anderson coalition all across america now an emmy you've already got twenty people was running for the democratic nomination. and there are some of the socialists that was inconceivable twenty

years ago in america but i think a lot of americans have recognized their system isn't working well as for the american government we i don't know if we use all of those why would why do we use a chosen candidate for the venezuelan government leader as well as washington's this from the center for economic and pulls the research report finds the u.s. sanctions on men as well as sponsors will pretend of thousands of deaths and this is what supporting america's sanctions on venezuela just like on iran are illegal in international law. but america has the veto it the united nations so i mean very often when for every country at the un votes century america trying to stop its interventions it just has a cost that one american vote and that defeats that we had the reporter or lou could have heard what you just said about the legality of saying to the e.u.

recognizes why do you know or has done rather than merely rule in read the meter or not all across the west people have come up supporting a man who's talking about a military coup and you've got this is this maneuver in the arms business talking about sending follow down to eric brilliant blackwood or denying that reuters suggestion good good a bit like you were going to evolve we don't have the right to intervene to overthrow other governments have been democratically elected since nine hundred ninety eight every single election in venezuela has been won by the progressive party their fair shot is now majority and that's where i think that america hates the fact he's a government that seize control of its oil supplies put them at the service of the venezuelan people just like in cuba i mean when castro came to power he put the interests of the cubans there american interests and that's what all these in war do you think if you had chavez your old friend was alive today and was watching the pictures of you do without. military officers talking about

a coup would you think utility or you would just laugh it off because i mean on i went and it's right in two thousand and eight the support amongst the people because after a century of the elite running venezuela whoever was in government still but the two hundred richest families by she controlled everything suddenly they had a president who started building schools hospitals i mean made so people got decent why age he transformed their lives and even a kidnapped child as famously in a failed coup. was talking about u.s. military involvement all options on the table. here it is talking about economic warfare killing tens of thousands of venezuelans once again that are many more will die i mean it will go on and as with the situation in yemen they will mainly be children this is outrageous amount my defining decade was the one nine hundred sixty s. where america's intervention in viet nam three point eight million vietnamese died in that war and all the vietnamese wanted was control of their own country and

they'd been subject to try to need some i mean i represent three and america's got to stop intervening in other people's code to slowly usas of the e.u. what do you mean for all to get dragged along often behind america's interests goes we linked in i mean american e.u. that our economies are very interesting together but you still get and use some degree of dissent occasionally to day there was a hearing on julian assange founder of wiki leaks where he leaks has told us so much about all of this kind of interference in other people's countries assyrian sondra spied on by it could always diplomatic star at the london embassy there is the way it claims it's bizarre stuff that they were alleging which it sounds was nearing a set from then on the war to the embassy and so on of finding out why one porter disputes that simple fact there is a new video of a disparity having them and then they went to really release a recording m. is secretly. according to his doctor coming in examine him and things like that i

mean you think about it if you've been confined to an embassy for seven years you might becoming a bit difficult an eccentric he should never have been subject to that he was simply exposing the lies and smears america's corporate interests and at some going up on wiki leaks i mean we should be proud of people doing that and helping us to understand the truth you know i grew up in that post-war world we were told we were under threat from the soviet union the cold room that we now know i and and therefore people write a song to come out and actually make sure we get to know the truth we should be giving them roma i mean not. arresting them and getting ready no doubt to deport an x. rays of american hearing indeed is to more or do you think i mean we began by talking about media character assassination of you and an apology from them do you think this is all softening us up because all the media of being centering on these claims about his behavior in the embassy rather than collateral murder in iraq or

any of the three that the establishment doesn't want someone knowing i had a son getting away this the one thing he's got on his side is that british courts would be very reluctant to deport him to not use a judgment where he be executed and we stop execute the ecuadorian save that they're going to go and he won't be x. why would you believe donald trump telling you he's not going to execute you i frankly get livingston thank you for after the break. as environmentalist back to nuclear power to tackle climate change we speak to the mit professor blowing the whistle on an alleged cover up of the threats of low level radiation all of them or coming up part two of going underground.

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exists because america wants it to exist they are the biggest terrorist group to ever operate in this country and they're dead to me they're worse off than the people who destroyed the world trade centers of the scroll. welcome back in the first off we heard from former mayor of london ken livingstone about the dangers of air pollution that the world health organization says kills four point two million a year but did the w.h.o. along with the u.n. cover up another literally invisible threat to public health low level radiation a new book proposes that a positive prolific nuclear weapons testing and the future of environmentalists catalyze nuclear power commissioning might lead elites to suppress facts about the potentially deadly effects of low level. radiation the book is

a manual for survival a sure that will guide to the future and it's all for a mighty professor joins me now from paris cade welcome to going underground so in discovering new information about the chernobyl you trace where the earth exists today is of twenty nine thousand the russian were bombs went off and thyroid cancer tripling between one hundred seventy four do any good gene sperm counts declining in america your post re the new zealand how how do you think it is that more people don't know how to you know belittle another disasters like fukushima. are about to give a kind of failure of human human organization and capitalism yeah well you know it leads you to wonder you went into the archives first i started in kiev and i went on to minsk in moscow and what i learned is that you know much of what we've been told about the chernobyl disaster is just wrong or incomplete people were far sicker far more people died than we've been told radioactivity was not contained

inside the channels own in fact i found that pilots went up and manipulated the weather so that radioactive rain fell on rural below roofs in order to save the big russian cities nobody told the two hundred thousand people living under those rain clouds and you know there's a story is just quite different when you look at the archival records and i found i was the first person usually to check out these files and i think that's why we haven't really known this story. and then i went on to u.n. archives to said you know why don't we know about this big public health disaster and i worked in five un archives and i found there that certain key influential individuals were helping the soviet leadership minimize the record of the health impacts of the disaster and i found you know i was like why would they do that and i found that they were the big you know nuclear powers the u.k. and u.s. france russia were facing lawsuits at the. end of the cold war from their own

testing and production of nuclear weapons for you know forty years prior to that and what they had done our leaders in the name of peace and nuclear deterrence they had you know emitted five hundred times more radioactivity into the environment than sure noble and you know i was left at the end of this book manual for survival wondering why we haven't been more curious as a society about our exposures to billions and billions of curies of radioactivity and nuclear fallout most people would think well this is a problem of soviet communism in the us is why it should go because it was because you say in the book there was a false impression that persisted and deepen that western capitalism it zoom was superior to meds in practice in the us is. that often the job that's right unfortunately the soviets had a lot of nuclear spills during the cold war a lot of accidents and they had doctors who because the doctors were not privy to the radiation doses that their patients were getting that was considered classified

information the doctors became extremely good at detecting doses and symptoms in their patients just by studying their mostly the blood the. chromosomes their blood counts and looking at other sort of neurological factors teeth enamel things like that so the soviet doctors really had a what i consider a more sensitive and more developed radiation medicine than those in the west but as you know at the end of the soviet union everything that was so viet was considered bad the soviets had bad politics bad economics and it followed that it was easy to slander soviet medicine and science and i find that that was you know the real. tactic that western experts came in and said oh you know soviet scientists they don't know what they're talking about these people out in the villages there we do find that. it's

a record of sickness and they are sicker than they should be but that's because they drink too much they smoke too much they have poor diets and they have radio phobia they're they're just nervous about their exposure to radioactivity now the book is structural it's blame but you did mention the un there i mean you say that the media took the figure of fifty four deaths and six thousand cases of thyroid cancer and this was influenced by fred methyl or author of the i reports what is the role of institutions like that in in conveying to the media and then to the wider public actual facts. well they wrote the big reports they wrote the author of the first big un report was after that u.n. consultants did a study of about sixteen hundred people in the double contaminated territory as they did that nine hundred ninety they issued a port report one thousand nine hundred one other reports filed in one thousand nine hundred six and the big one in two thousand and six achievable for a report and they kept really enunciate in the same kinds of messages first they

said in one thousand nine hundred one we found no record of damage and we don't expect to see anything but a few childhood direct cancers in the future and then in two thousand and six that they repeated the same message fifty four people dead six thousand kids with direct cancer and really no other detectable impact from chernobyl now the ukrainian officials have a count of thirty five thousand people receive compensation because their spouse died from a chernobyl related illness that's just people old enough to have married that doesn't include children who have died people who are widowed or unmarried the unofficial count in ukraine alone is one hundred fifty thousand and that is ukraine which received the least amount of radioactive contamination dello russo western russia received far more so that's a minimum number thirty five to one hundred thousand dead from chernobyl but i mean even his reason is because she the way the mainstream media have talked about

accidents is always that there can be high radiation then there's less radiation and then it becomes safe you seem to suggest that there are a u.s. government coverup that benefits the promotion of an idea that everything from medical tests atomic just to safe by saying low level radiation is going to dangerous well yeah i mean the u.s. government was involved in hiding evidence and denying evidence of their own testing of nuclear weapons in the american heartland right nevada the americans were. americans and the soviets were the only people brave enough to have nuclear test sites blowing up bombs in their continental heartland so they were busy in the early one nine hundred ninety s. trying to cover that story up because they wanted to avoid billion dollar lawsuits the french government was engaged in this kind of activity about algeria and french polynesia the british government had detonated bombs also in the south pacific and

in western australia nobody wanted these lawsuits to come home to roost and so if you could say chernobyl was the worst accident in human history worst nuclear accident human history and only thirty five people died or fifty four people died and six thousand kids got easily treatable cancers then hopefully those lawsuits could go away and the whole record of nuclear testing could go away and that's indeed what happened in the early one nine hundred ninety s. by defeating chernobyl making sure that you know low dose impact on health they had no precedent they were managed to slip away from those lawsuits so in that sense it was mission accomplished except that records stay in the archives for a long time and after twenty and thirty years historians get to see them and then we see you know what happened in the past to be clear you explain why radioactivity was driven right through the food chain using. affected insect paul in the does

and to the point that the european the european union there are berries on the shelves the radioactivity that you could dres to chernobyl right yeah i went after i worked in the ministry of health archives i went to the ministry of agriculture archives you know during the soviet period and what i find is that a good portion of the food chain was saturated with radioactive contaminants milk we honey wall would you know sort of you name it was emanating radioactivity and even find in some air. areas of southern belle rose twenty two percent of women's breast milk was contaminated above permissible levels for radioactivity in and that's a pretty amazing thing when society has to set permissible levels of radioactivity for women's breast milk since ukraine joyed the european association in two thousand and fourteen they have been sending. produce over the border to poland to

be marketed in the e.u. and then globally and i found that thousands of people are picking blueberries from the pretty marshes that's you know between two hundred and you know fifty kilometers from the chernobyl plant and because the swamp circulates radioactivity and because blueberries soak up minerals and radioactive mimics of minerals so well those berries are radioactive all of them a radioactive some are really radioactive they pick them all they get it they get of mix to reach the permissible norm and then it goes globally and i found that these radioactive berries were crossing in trucks from canada into the u.s. and the border guards the nuclear security border guard stopped them because they found this radiating mass in a truck they look in blueberries from ukraine there with them permissible limits and in they go now i'm not saying that these berries are necessarily if you eat them in small quantities they're terribly dangerous for us but what my thought is

that rather than take radioactive produce from the contaminated territories and send the the radioactivity around the world would be better just to pay those pickers to pick those berries and then dispose of them as a nuclear waste which is indeed what they are just vimy there is a clause dimension to your book god outside the globalization there that you just didn't imply you say that in the immediate aftermath of the i.m.f. economic disaster brought upon the former soviet union you couldn't tell whether it was nuclear good does your economic catastrophe does the radiation today affect the poor. more than the rich it tends to if you look around the map of the globe. nuclear power plants tend to be put in jobless areas they're not near big you know popular wealthy places they usually put them in places where people are dying for jobs and they call them nuclear villages and they give them perks they give nuclear floyds perks like child care and and little bit higher wages and nice municipal

facilities and so when accidents happen they tend to happen in poor more rural places take share novel take fukushima take the windscale accidents up in northern england and all of our problems out in the american west this is an issue of environmental justice as well. thank you and that's it for this show of the season we'll be back on saturday investigating today tomorrow's critical u.k. decisions on wiki leaks founder julian assange to speak to one of the world's greatest got to do steve bell until then he would talk to us social media. doing drugs my nephew was still in drugs my sister just with drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states

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a phone call though. it's midday mosco time headlining venezuela's opposition leader one guy dope calls for another day of anti-government protests today and the clashes reported on the outskirts of the country's capital caracas choose day while president nicolas maduro says the government has paused the coup attempt to bring you the latest. w.'s to a summit calling a new cold. the u.k. government looks set to maybe make the house of lords declare all business ties with russia and china saying it's just about making politics more transparent. the russian national jailed in the u.s. for working as a registered foreign agent has been fielding reporters' questions.