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who comes from a rare breed a physics professor turned out of state how does thinking about voter assess having the properties of both a particle and wave can help in understanding the phenomenon of bracks or donald trump to discuss that i'm now joined by the president of armenia our man. mr president it's good to talk to thank you very much for your time. as well so now now one of the most common war it's described quantum physics we're it's a weird kind of science i think given all birth that einstein had difficulties grasping and he described it to spooky to be real is that the same for a quantum politics. of course well your program has cooled the world apart because i think you can always disagree with somebody and you can always agree with somebody on. many many many things so what i'm trying to
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do in this program mr explore the things when we agree and when we disagree so if you want to apply some sort of a non-classical thinking even to your program probably will start with something saying the world is definitely going towards being a part of this all the same time is going to be getting together at the end of the day it is going to be very difficult for you to define two things is simultaneously is the world going to part is going to get getting integrated or together but that's just a matter of. the realities. that is why my first training and my first profession i was a professor of theoretical physics mathematics at the great chance of being educated in in armenia soviet union armenia had one of the well known centrist or theoretical physics and astrophysics and i mean so i was there at two
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astrophysicist thinking about the structure of unifil universe and stars and in mid eighty's. i and eighty four nine hundred eighty four eighty five working at cambridge university missing and having not only professional discussions with great scientists but also talking about the structure of the universe and asking a simple question. for someone like steve hopefully. at the end of the day if we are the earth for the physicists. what do things is there a god or not or do we need the presence of god to explain the structure there is a very fundamental questions how did you narrow them down to politics something as mundane and parochial as political it didn't have telling you the chronology of the of this piece at the end of the thinking about politics and thinking about god
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probably thinking about the world is much more complex and complicated than the remember my discussions with evoking and eventually years years after i think i returned i to these discussions because he made a wonderful series of documentary films but it was coming to a conclusion which i would agree with the path. the destination and the quoting to me was wrong with the same logic you could prove that you need god and there with a save you could prove that. there is no god so this is much more complex story than the politics but speaking about politics it's not about politics as as as a craft you said the end of the day politics or diplomacy is a craft and you have to learn you have to learn not only at school but with with
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a good master at you if you are like you have a good master if they learn their craft and some craftsman become great artists making is as usual i don't know if you are that remain but i think the demand for that kind of diplomacy in some countries is diminishing because many of our me is in russia's part there is in the west no longer practicing the in the these kind of diplomacy in this kind of politics and i'm sure you would agree that trump is the first hour and a prime example all. later doesn't care much well of other. sort of values for the moment the you are quantum thinking jumping from move from the path that would start to discussing their vision mr pran trumper president proud trump is not is not the only one because at the end of the day what i was trying to do i was trying to be an observer of what is happening in the world today the thing where living exciting times and it is exciting times is that some
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of the beginning of the twenty first century we have accumulated huge knowledge. we inherited from twentieth century starting from the fathers of quantum physics and those great. scientists like albert einstein that had phenomena of a normal known known sort of a standard way of thinking but for him probably it was difficult to not to understand but to put the quantum behavior of particles into his own theory which was about the large scale of the universe eventually this is what we are going to get one day which is the unique unified theory of gravitation over everything. but if if you observe the world today we are seeing day after day huge examples of technological technological development rapid
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development people told it for the industrial revolution. for me it's not the fourth industrial revolution it's sort of a revolutionary evolution i mean because it will lucian or revolution revolution will have been exposed to chile and the rich life probably will change in five to between five and ten years dramatically it has changed dramatically probably starting from sixty years ago until today when the first transistors were made and we had the with the smartphones so technologically it's fourth industrial who will who should start the slash the way i want to describe this revolution a revolution where it's not only that the very high quality scientific discoveries will serve start serving us will change dramatically our lives but also different sectors of sizes there don't lie will start in merging to each other mr
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president my competence is nowhere near your thing i'm primarily focused on politics let me pursue this all of the questions that are of interest i'm sure america here our country when we have i mean the time is limitless in the universe by them not on this program and i don't know if you. accelerate some time is relative so as i understand your time is shorter than my time but at the end of the day we are seeing a huge technology it will change led by many things going to computers up to the new wave of lasers artificially dodges the that but on the other side what we are going to see here is that the human beings are not the same. they are in there was a famous dramatic piece chilo they sort of regime obviously if you remember and this was about october revolution in russia but for me the
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the two words the man or the human being with with. with with a gun for the moment it's not the gun for the moment it's the connectivity with the world so the the world is becoming different because our experiences in life are that we're not only connected to each other we're not only getting huge amount of information to it not only that piece of small small piece contains all of our lives and memories and there were things but it's becoming more and more deeper because in our activity. we are mixing though entertainment. with active entertainment interactive entertainment and some oh you know where you getting the used to look at what's happening today you you have some someone as someone is right the the writing or drawing tonight a story then that sort of is becoming either ifield series or it's becoming
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a film then after that they're producing what the game and the theme becomes interactive so we humans live to interact and we're using this gadget today the biggest entertainment is sport and out of the sport the because entertainment is food for change but people are more watching today much more. not to live sport but the sport which is virtually sports why because just watching football football is a passive entertainment. and gaming is interactive and is there's only one step from gaming entertainment to politics so in twenty first century politics also is going to get some elements of entertainment i don't know do agree or not politics is all center of entertainment as well and the moment there it is entertainment people would like to have interactive
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entertainment which is happening today individuals are using their judges through facebook through twitter and other. interacting with political events and getting a site that from the because they're seeing the results of that while we are not getting my shelter action between you and me it for now but i have to take a short break and we'll be back in just a few moments. during
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the great depression which i'm old enough to remember there was most of my family were unemployed working plus other wasn't it was bed you know much worse objective listen today but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america was shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attack solidarity engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to know on. one set of rules for the rich opposite.
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that's what happens when you put her into the hands of a narrow sector of will switch. it is dedicated to increasing power for chills just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. welcome back to worlds apart with the president of armenia our man it's like you sound mr president. if i may ask you for permission to ask you
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pointed questions about your theory i would be very grateful for that. politics has changed but. governance is still pretty much the same we still have to pay pensions you still have to run schools you have killing people who can hear you can do that through facebook and twitter and the not so with the absolute the only about it i'm not speaking of and well in in many ways pensions and pensions salaries will be paid the electronically so one judge of that which will be your credit credit card and everything together i think from the point of view you will come to the same gadgets which is going to be some of the is our government you have to have the capacity for that and of course with this is about how do you address people and there is a classical way address in every four or five years people come together they go for referendum or election campaign and they like a democratically in some countries democratically they elect the parliament or
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a president and then the president or the parliament rules for a while and people give them a credit for lesser for five years sometimes they get fed up with this credit and the credit finishes earlier but at the end what does the classical way of doing it but the in the twenty first century is going to be permanent. permanent i mean the permanent sort of elections or permanent referendum you say every day big majority of people will be reacting with one this or that or that decision i mean that will define the dynamism of decision making at the end of the end of the presidents prime ministers politicians parliamentarians are human and they will be under constant pressure of the their electorate lives speaking to them live getting their feedback with life and making their decisions on the size of on the type of the
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taxation pension paid and how and from which sorts of resources they'll be on the pressure from the from the public as a sort of the public will be involved in this decision making. your own country went through a peaceful transition of power last year and i think the biggest secret of any revolution is that you need to change not only the government but the but the local culture and to people around the world they're much more demanding of their authorities down of themselves for example in armenia the grey sectors thirty percent of g.d.p. that's larger than in many other countries how do you persuade the population to be as demanding of themselves as they are of their leaders well noise i figure about more or less exact figure about the of the so-called great great well and as i said is not i.m.f. . the reality is they're out is changing people's culture i mean the
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way they seeing it's it's much more difficult than that the way they act i mean my assessment the what is happening in armenia today i've failed i mean on the on the level of feeling that the political political sort of a. valuation is a lot of ordinary people especially young people to feel freer. feel sort of a confident that they can do better and that's why. or two words that we can hear in our media a lot today is is for example the startup everybody wants to build the startup of course building a start up it's about the innovation being young believing you're a genius but at the end of the start of this is a culture the start of needs infrastructure the start of these connection with the world start of the end of the need venture funds and so on and so forth which are not there i mean there's a big venture fund i mean this should be connected to the world and in fact the
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venturing today is mostly developed in big countries like united states will be charged a bit in europe a bit in russia and elsewhere but because the world is interconnected because is the world is becoming even closer and closer because their ideas a real real discoveries will have. sort of a fundamental value i mean every young man will have a chance to believe that he can be the next bill gates or steve jobs there is a popular sumption a. good democrat isolation in the former soviet union is only possible through a set of evil democratizing playbook that any country of the former soviet union that to some extent is that europe can only democratize on that the e.u. supervision and i think your country is some of them defying that assumption do you think your a stand alone example and do you think it's possible for the former soviet republics to improve themselves without western guidance you know i think the
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having the sort of a overall. solution or definition for everybody i think it's a wrong approach although we lived for seven years or more for us in a russian empire than a soviet union and we have a lot of common things personal i when i travel or when i'm in cause us the norah. it was based on or i mean said that his birth i feel low but that's me maybe then and i think it's very important for the next generation of people that we were growing both in russia below to sort of as a son or armenia they have they should have the same feelings because we i mean common culture has as a great value but on the other side we are different so i will not even try to have to have a sort of a standard solution for everybody. that will be put on this is the stuff in fact this is not something new in my life or a belief in my life when i was prime minister in ninety six it's a sort of
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a rebellion it was a young prime minister. who knew what i wanted to do a great friends if the soprano's should not was and was although we had the big difference in our ages it was a good friend of mine and i knew a lot of politicians in the west but i rebelled for example when the when the world bank and i.m.f. came to me as saying this is the plan this is what you have to do that i'm sorry i cannot accept that and i went to washington to have the serious discussions then with jim wolfensohn and i bet a presentation at the board of world bank which is not a standard thing to do in the fact that with the support of the russian director those at that they had surprising the whole idea was that we can you cannot develop our army know with the stamp program that films let's say from africa go somewhere well and here just last month your current prime minister nicolas kind of film mounted that america doesn't support it doesn't comment enough on the armenian.
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democracy why do you think he cares about what washable there were. no t. here to comment on the was my prime as the to say first of all i mean you know is a parliamentary republic and the role of the president is not the role of a commentator of what they were this or that politicians including the prime minister had a source and i am sorry for our phrase the. president of the bo so it's not uncomfortable this is let me rephrase it i'm sure you would agree that the relationship in the united states is important for your country because it's a major source of foreign investment there's a larger meaning diaspora there and the other it's clear that the united states is kind of apprehensive not only of armenia's relationship with russia but also i mean his relationship with iran do you think armenia has what it takes to
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balance those relationships in a way that with people who only benefits without consequences because this is mistaken can deliver consequences will so heard your evaluation again i want to repeat the thing i think in the parliamentary republic it is government and the prime minister the foreign minister who are formulating the foreign policy of armenia it's not the president so from that this point of view i would agree with you with that idea and that many indeed has to have. good relations with the united states army indeed has to have good relations with your european union in fact i mean as you know in one thousand and seventeen. twenty third's of the member has signed an agreement with the european union and armenia indeed the dollar has to have has very close relations with russia and this relations are historic i want to ask you about your personal account of a somebody because you recently were caught on camera. chatting about something
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with joe biden the the former vice pres. in the united states and c.n.n. speculated that this was about his possible presidential bid did he tell you anything new for anything about that well again if even he did not going to say this publicly be it when the and i think i will. i will say yes or no if i get a permission from mr biden himself because there's a simple i think of behavior even between politicians so i know joe biden for a while for several years with but there we had discussions and i think we both. felt cameras and we think that was a part of our discussion it was very very sort of a. the low intensity and but very friendly so you know you i know the first i missed c.n.n.
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wanted to find out what the we are the journalists rest of simple minded i mean they were there and i think you don't have to wait alone because at the end of the days mr by the going to run for presidency or not it's quite obvious and you will you have already the answer for the last two years mr biden has been telling audiences around the united states that. that's too shall pass and he was referring to donald trump i'm going to involved in notions of quantum politics once again and do you think based from that perspective do you think trump as a phenomenon is going to be over in two years you know again i thing where we're changing the subject at the end of the i'm not going to try to him and tried to. give value a shadow of mr trump the not asking for a valuation of him but other than only that he represents whether any of us any of us including you including me if not today but tomorrow will become
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a human being with the quantum of sort of the fichu in our lives in our professional life in our political life and so on and so forth there are some politicians but there's some countries the you can see if you can see them today and mr trump i think you like talking about mr trump because i don't like talking about he he well i love to i like to i love to speak about quantum politics and i would like to speak about the future of this world and at the end of the day when we politicians we come and go our discussion was initially about the future of this of this world i mean will i be the proud president of the i mean whether or not it will have some impact but that the end of the this world is changing to changing quite rapidly for the moment away are you very much involved in finding out who said what and how he said our internal relations and
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and interaction and problems between the states it when europeans union briggs's russia the lawyer things that is in a very important things but in the meantime there are also other important things which are happening now on this planet let's let's take for example everybody speaks important things there are but it speaks about. about how we are damaging our environment some countries are making an effort to reduce their carbon production from x. amount to the next amount but the reality is that that issue is absolutely serious one why it is serious because if we're honest to each other. even if the world will decide tomorrow if there are military expenditures and spend all of that money on making this planet greener it will take a lot of time in the meantime this planet is having a lot of problems this is one issue no matter how much we invest
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a day or renewables that path is going to be quite alone it will be shorter if we will start using again i mean fighting or fear against nuclear start using nuclear again that would become shorter but we are we have this produces we don't like nuclear and in russia. i like nuclear as well as at the end of the day before fukushima the world had overcome the fear of chernobyl and the world world so i think in europe and china everywhere but it was starting talking about nuclear war sure noble and fukushima the end of the as a result of human error not the technomage so even if we introduce the nuclear into the basket steel the time will be huge syl will damage this planet so much that it will be very very difficult to return it back i have to thank you for being so
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gracious. thank you very much for your perspective thank you very much. this conversation going on our social media. same place same time here on worlds apart. so the currency is in freefall there is no. gold standard and there's no way to reconcile the something in the world so every other country is competing as a race to the bottom at the same time it's fair to say that there is now several countries that you could i think characterize as being on
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