in the upper class and the rest of us are expendable doogie says but what about victim compensation these thugs get community orders and compensation orders they don't do the community service and they ignore the court's compensation orders levy says exactly we have to listen of course she's referring to the pastors who said that the listing to the perpetrators of crime is one we have getting out of that terrible rut that letter says exactly they have to elite know someone who can't delete that'll never work my cousin was knifed because of the color of his skin we never forget these kids need someone like this man to max says the difference between scotland and england scotland has a government intent on investing in its people england has a tories and cash back is not a freeze associated with them susan says a brilliant cd's and inspired finale though the issue rumbles on there's such hope in the shows and finally cast says very informative showing that scotland is ahead

of the game once more now craig money was once the ultimate high flyer they understand baster and the british foreign office offered august by her majesty the queen herself i was offered an officer ship in the. toilet in order which is a medal in the personal gift of the queen i was offered a left turn and per dollar tendency to draw the oil in order while i was in poland and i was promoted and censored offered to be a commander in order while i was in ghana and on both both occasions i was fused from royalty to radicalism now craig mundie is one of the most experienced of political bloggers writing a commentary which attracts up to one point two million readers how did this transition come about alex picks up the story with craig mighty. and now i'm delighted to be joined by ambassador extraordinaire and no blogger extraordinary

money create wealth of the exam and she'll thank you very much for having me by your says be quite the extraordinary career but start with or start the beginning i mean people who know you played many of the things you're a to your advocacy as coach and a bell as you know have you but don't as a as a pretty at the dethroned scott allowed to peer ups but actually you were born and not for. auntie i was born down in norfolk my father's remember. was posted down there in the air force where he married a local girl and settled down for a while so i'm i'm half scots and half english and born in the thick of good politics pretty early age. reading the codes of your life was generally thought then the leader of the liberal party of all of all generally thought the his private sector received the electorate in the port because that's

what they did in these days of the just the run up to the fair been for the likes of what was up but that's right i decided i was a liberal. i think fourteen years old and we didn't have a candidate in north norfolk we didn't have a constituency association so i voted german for parking him to send a candidate and his private secretary who was more opened the letter and having no constituency himself helped on the train and came to fight the election when he arrived and found the to a young teenager was what more than a constituency association he before he actually go i was just fifteen anything. this president before private said to flow from westminster because those of us whatever except. for the say that he will be that card that it was the. we had to do this or i was surprised that the law of the book the trade station looks for the

deputy to greet them all arrival and favors the school but they. hadn't your message than the letter of your your age of innocence no i hadn't and in fact i'd had as he arrived at the station i'd just come off the school bus so i was in most school uniform with my factor as well but he he took it all in in very good part from that standing start how did you go on and in the election campaign we did not too badly i think we actually. came third. a w managed to overtake the labor party which was the game but we thought that the memory would got something like eight hundred twenty percent of the vote for most of them must of enjoyed the experience because he stood a gallon at the top of the. state is that by then did you have a bunch of lincoln states association we certainly did but we attracted lots of members we revived the constituency association frankly a lot of members were older than i was and it was really my introduction to politics and actually richard moore taught me

a great many of the political principles in which i still believe he was a very good liberal man with both a large and a small and then off to done the university it was up because your of your father's connection for you are second generation scott yes i went off to a done deal and i was still active in the bill politics and you've got out of student politics and if i read collector that was a change in the rules of the student association by the university to to stop you standing for the thought of town as late get franklin d. roosevelt or suppose that the have to be a constitutional amendment to the stock. student open. to sabbaticals as president of the student union university was terrified i was going to do a third it wasn't just a constant use them student union they had to change the university charter itself and get the queen to sign. not on the change which was fascinating i had it's worth saying no intention whatsoever of standing for

a third term anyway because i'd managed to get a job enough on the office but they just in case they weren't taking any chances are the foreign office i went through the government economic service at sam's and indeed the treasury. reputation for for looking at. people not basically dismissing the people who might be considered an offer dollars but looking for for brains as opposed to conformity in these days do you think that's gone from the civil service that it would be much more difficult to get in if you have a new productive political views let me put it that way after i left the foreign office attend of mine still in the senior position in the office was invited to a meeting to discuss the. case and he went along thinking that it might be discussing you know how you avoid making false allegations against one of your stuff or all some of those things but in fact it turned out to be

a meeting on how to ensure nobody like the other quarter before to look for. me and say let's get back to your man of your year or near the top of the fly for the foreign office examinations and and then your national postings as a civil servant young foreign office. opposite of paul and then governors or what are the highlights of your of your rossa germany and poland opponent was absolutely fascinating because it was going through the transition from communism to capitalism in effect i was in the early ninety's and it was a time of the normal opportunity you know new businesses were burgeoning up people were enjoying newfound freedoms but also there's a terrible sadness that a whole generation of people who had been brought up in the. communist system lost their way you know there were literally hundreds of thousands of people laid

off from heavy industry for example who would never work again economically people were in real poverty and starvation almost it was a bit like what happened if you can under factories and but exaggerated still far far worse so it was very very interesting time to to be there but also quite quite complicated the time and both of hope and of despair depending on who you were in society earlier her majesty's service you had your first direct contact were from maj to yourself and paul and i think of prince charles and gallant which was your well your next postings why we can vote in the royalty of your views i had to organize state visits for the queen both to poland and to garner while i was in those countries purely by coincidence of state visits happened to come to both countries while i was was there and organizing a state visit you actually end up getting quite close to the queen and of your

family and so the this is must have been accorded something of a success because you were you were offered. some royal acknowledgment to tell us about that and the particular tell me why you didn't accept it now i was offered an officer ship in the royal victorian order which is a medal in the personal gift of the queen i was offered a left tenant ship perth all a tendency to do all that toil in order while i was in poland and i was promoted and said that offered to be a commander in order while i was in ghana and on but both occasions i fused and the other inquiries from the palace as to why your time both of these singular and very personal all of us. that was stored by her majesty the queen. the queen a queen asked me directly a person to person person to person i had a one on one. interview of her for her to find me for my work at the at the end of the talk and she asked me why i'd refuse the night i told her that it was

because of my beliefs but i'm a republican and also a scottish nationalist so i couldn't accept in the bitties crown of what was her most is reaction to that. she took a few seconds to digest it looks like the confused been quite literally she said she said how nice. a snob of the ocean the toll is that but you're talking about a thought of wasn't a break the royalty because i knew you would have charge of prince charles as a can gather. gathers of me in the continuing interest of yours and that too was judged a considerable success what was the highway if you're in the impulse to how much one can in posting was really the general election of two thousand when jerry buildings had been ruling the country for twenty years or more supposedly in the last eight years an elected president although the country was still effectively pretty much a dictatorship in many ways and begin that period to an end and being very involved

were different in the organization of the gun the intellects but that was for me the biggest highlight of my time and so the form of as the source of my motive the spate turning down royal orders nonetheless it was to be set for the glittering that were matic earlier after your success judged in poland and ghana your appointed an ambassador and you there live for this. is that sudden comment them into reach the if you have a bust of to us back a star you know in the embassy it task and you're in your early forty's you've got twenty years or more of foreign office activity before you the expectation as one of the youngest ambassadors in the whole service is you would end up as a bastard in washington are not powerless and reach the very heights of the former office so you must have thought that your drive to take up your post pretty well set for the. glittering prizes that's probably true and i was begun to my

appointment i was anticipating probably my next one of the potent given have been to great expense to teach me puppy finishes i'm busted that's something along those lines was by. one of the clip a post that myself knows every reason to believe that was going to happen. during the great depression which i'm old enough to remember there was most of my family were unemployed working. there wasn't it was bed you know much worse objectively than day but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america where shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attack solo doubt engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles

according to no i'm chomsky one set of rules for the rich opposite set of rules for . that's what happens when you put her into the. narrow sector of will switch will is dedicated to increasing power for chills just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. a recent report from the u.k.'s foreign office highlights in detail the persecution of christians around the world in the middle east the cradle of christianity christians face extinction why is that deep politically incorrect in the west foundational religion. twenty forty you know

bloody revolution to the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be increasingly violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it still or hiccup what if i mean you know let's put the video and put him in the new bill is that idea but let me go to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. those who took. it invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these another call that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. welcome back alex is interviewing top ten political blogger craig marty we took up the story with critic has survived and is best on as the youngest boss to in the

whole of the british foreign office however the idealistic diplomat is about to kind to the world of real politique. you're confronted and scared and there's better stand of. it is which are increasing with trouble just so how did what where were these things that were going on and how did you take out i hadn't been there very long when i discovered that they'd have a dictatorship which was running as because stan was a dreadful dictatorship and they were they were practicing torture of the most horrible kind and then i discovered that we were known gauged in security service cooperation with them and were deceiving intelligence material from these torture sessions when you see we mean the united kingdom security forces under foreign office yeah i mean essentially the cia and then my six were deceiving intelligence material from years back that came from these torture sessions but when this was

suddenly the aftermath of nine eleven that the iraq war was on its way this was a type of international terrorism of al-qaeda rampant i mean don't you judge well you know these are exceptional tales of perhaps exceptional measures might be justified in that context i think there are three main point stance about the first one is oh i think torture is just always a model and should never be resorted to the second one is that of course this kind of behavior is what makes people hate us and what causes toadyism as opposed to stop it and the third and they particle one is you don't get the truth from torturing people under torture people will say anything to make the torture stop and what the torture wants to hear is not necessarily be true and what the torturers wanted to hear in this case work infections the membership of al-qaeda in order to exaggerate the strength of the in central asia in order to justify all the hundreds of millions of dollars being pumped into the g.g.

by the united states so. the material coming out of it was false material so your first of course. was to be representations of the temple even give their basket of you must have had access to the top of the foreign office access perhaps to the farm sector but there was jack straw was of course so you must to me these internal representations of what was of the sponsors to their own mylan tash caped saying look things are not as they seem here i'm increasingly troubled looking for direction as to hope we can steer things into a more honorable course i did exactly that i sent telegrams back to judge to all members of the camp marked top secret saying we are receiving this intelligence from a tour material from torture it's under libel material we shouldn't be getting it and it's illegal in terms of the un convention against torture to receive this

material and i'm concerned about the legal position ministers are putting themselves in by receiving it i sent a telegram saying that at the end of two thousand and two and repeated it in january two thousand and three having this even though i answered and i was then called to london well from the get of it an answer i was called to bond them to a meeting in the foreign office they first thing i was told was that the foreign office was angry with me because such a thing should never ever be put in writing so you would know we're i mean what was that any supporters of the government in the hope that the vast development said to be clear shot with. a rumor of well known radical view did you think of saying or will you not lotus i'm biased of contact the international development at bottom i'm not just told very firmly within the foreign office but jack straw had taken the view that we should get intelligence of torture in the context of the war on terror but this was necessary. i had very little support from within the foreign

office at an official level i had a fair amount of personal messages of support from other ambassadors but no. and the other colleagues in similar positions in the world there would have been many colleagues in the same position of and the world but nobody else seemed willing to put their career on the line about it in the way that i was willing to do so then you two very unusual step but still within the realms of proper foreign office behavior you made that open public criticism of the. judicial system was as bad as style and various other aspects that were going on and you did that as the ambassador and you cleared just through the front office. to get clear. that was quite hard work to get it cleared i decided that we had to go public on the human rights abuses that workers including one instance of of a gentleman being boiled to death he was boiled alive literally and i've got

pathological proof of that from the university of glasgow institute of pathology so i decided we needed to go public and i went through both parts of the foreign office which deal with human rights and through defeated to clear recently and was that this particular case of a sudden the being as you put it boiled alive but was that a feature your speech or was it more generally a but top job of the illegal rendition which was in the shoe which was undergoing a lot on the speech didn't discuss bendish and it discussed the torture of what was happening and did give a specific example of a chap being boiled to death but also and you say you had that confirmed by the university of glasgow was out when you were still lambast it was out later than there never was while i was still ambassador and received detailed photos of a corpse while i was ambassador and i sent the voters back to perform the office to

the human rights department of foreign office and they had sent them to me in the city of glasgow for analysis the analysis and come back saying that the tap and been boiled alive so to say was this. bitch caused a bit of a stir and brought you into a pretty open conflict with your american a covert their manager wasn't particularly pleased with the activities of oh by the what happened then yeah you make an ambassador was was most upset. and he called me to a meeting where we we discussed our different views and he took the view that islam is in itself an attack on human rights in effect was what he said to me and that i had to be allies that the it was big government was fighting is latin and that we should be giving them every support and that these minor human rights abuses were not the main thing i should be concentrating porn i wasn't seeing the big picture was his view i also got quite

a firm attack from london coming down from the minister's office saying that they were most concerned i had upset our american. ally's i did point out that i had cleared the speech they were still not impressed they said they'd been a bit but i knew what i was doing i knew that i was going against wider policy objectives and then things took of together different and you folks yourself at the receiving end having been the person who was making the allegations making the statement at the deceiving end of a foreign office investigation that's right and. and it came as a huge shock to me i was on holiday with my family and i was called back before an office to a meeting in the personnel department for office and at that meeting it was put to me that i was having policy conflicts with the office and perhaps i'd i'd rather go and be ambassador somewhere else and they said death just to denmark they said that

copenhagen was coming up and wouldn't it be better for me if i just quietly went to copenhagen and before i could actually answer that they said take a couple of days to think about it but then the chap produced from a drawer of his desk a list of eighteen allegations and said if you don't agree then we're going to have to investigate these allegations and i was just absolutely stunned by b. the sheer bluntness of the blackmail but the lack of subtlety about it and these other cases but just absolute rubbish and it just completely untrue that things i've never done i was astonished i was astonished this could be happening i actually encountered you know some psychological difficulties in believing this really was happening to be in the bill world so you'd say to fate and you fought successfully the charges were dismissed but your career was was over your career in the former office was or will the instead of going to the glittering hates of the

moscow embassy or or elsewhere that that was the finish of that. what it how did you pick yourself up that's a considerable thing to happen in your mid forty's in mid career under circumstances most of you a great deal it was hard and it was very very difficult i went through a period of great poverty i'm now i don't come in this any sense from a moneyed background i have no other source of income. and on top of which the precipitated a divorce everything collapsed on me i lost my lost my job i lost my family i lost my income i lost my standing in society i lost my fair speech because as i say the people doing this to me were my friends i've been in the foreign office for over twenty years and over an awful lot of people who knew me. very well knew

that beer allegations against be were one too and that was eventually proven yet still in sort of went along with the official line i was an unreliable tobel person and needed to be got rid of so the whole psychological experience of it was very very difficult to come out of and for. a year or two i was very down indeed you had support on and and across party support will mention clear sure. daniel hannan the service of un peu these were people who were suspicious of what happened to you the advocates in your field that's true. michael portillo also quite quite a few people in the conservative party. were very supportive but there were people across political lines who did come out to my support one of the very difficult things was that once i'd been sacked in effect i felt able to go public on the things i've been keeping secret like the extraordinary rendition that was happening

the jack straw stood up in parliament and referring me to me by name i said but it wasn't true and extraordinary rendition didn't exist and it was a figment of imagination and he said but you know you would have to believe that the americans and the british were colluding and sending people to bend the world to be tortured and i was in effect being called a liar in parliament. and that's you know extremely difficult to cope with now of course i haven't met anybody for a decade who doesn't believe me and doesn't believe i was the one telling the truth but at that time it wasn't straightforward and so as the if part the end of bastard has undergone total press the writ as the high price of political principle. and next week shall we find out how his fight back came a bite in a totally unexpected way for a long just number of us i've ever had for an individual article it was one point

two million on my own blog and you must remember that of course you can multiply that because popular articles always reproduced all over the be into that join us next week for the second chapter and the personal story of the top radical blogger create fighting for ny for me and all of the team here at alex salmond chill we will see. that's geysers financial survive until they say money the bellatrix climate change

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