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online your best bet is the n.f.l. for the team but for now the mountains of waste only grow higher. from. the war on whistleblowers continues the u.s. charges a former intelligence analyst under the espionage act alleging he turned over classified information about washington's targeted assassination program to the media. because johnny officials say a security guards being killed after gunmen stormed and luxury hotel in this town and it attacked targeting foreigners. and 25 years the ruling party but this time the african national congress in africa with its biggest
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loss is simply end of apartheid and the general election. all of our top stories are only a click away at r.t. dot com. national it's going on the ground one in the u.k. and ireland is threatening. time after time say we're going underground as the national demo for palestine much as across britain protesting tourism a military backing of slaughter in the middle east in violation of un resolutions coming up in the show is the us 2 party system about to get caught in a gravel launch the 2020 us presidential candidates fighting to push politics left mike gravel on the importance of being loyal to ideas not qualities and labors for the shadow communities and local government minister chris williamson gives his 1st
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international interview since his suspension from jeremy cauldrons apology but chaos in a country damaged by the un nutrition runnable gentleman's question must and will be heard the speaker has to interrupt parliament because someone got the royal title of meghan markle prince harry wrong all this. well coming up in today's going underground the 1st to a man called out this week by donald trump secretary of state mike pompei oh the former cia boss has been in london condemning jeremy coleman for opposing washington's plan to overthrow the government of venezuela it's disgusting to see leaders in not only the united kingdom the united states as well. who continue to support the murderous dictator dictator madeira pump aoe in london that condemning the odds on favorite to be the next leader of britain as well as possibly the next leader of the usa because mike gravel opposed to u.k. e.u. u.s. backed regime change in venezuela is running to be president in 2020 why did they
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hate us so so many places around because we kill so many people want to. put you to you have a certain arrogance you want to do want to tell the iraqis how to run their country and we can get up against 5 years and get off of carbon in years all we've got to do is want to do it just play get out of their country they're at you know silly and we insist on staying there the military industrial complex not only controls our government lock stock barrel but the whole art and my gravelle joins me now via skype from birmingham in california thanks so much for coming on the show before we even get to your campaign for 2020 what do you make of mike compare the u.s. secretary of state claiming in effect that you and jeremy corbin are disgusting for not supporting a coup in venezuela well of course what he should suggest saying that we should join in a murder that's going to lose well keep in mind with their sanctions that are going
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to be thousands of children they're going to be dying as result of this coup and. with a straight face talk about going in and pulling the other kookery and me in the national office. lot. in the united states and it can only be perpetrated because trump who should notice a sick fool bump aoe is a religious nut you know he thinks that he's been ordered by god to. saying so ok well peo may say vatican thumb may agree with you but it is the european union as well as washington that want the overthrow of the doro even your a contender fellow competitor a contender for the presidency or the primaries for the d.n.c. said my duro is a terrible man if the european union and washington who want regime change well it
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has been a product of american imperialism and there's something that the brits should look something above but armor could improve on the in the idea that we are shapira to anybody you know we can back it up with our ridiculous expenditures on military hardware we have no business sanctioning people we're sanctions sanctions are attack the lowest part of ringback the society that we're saying she too poor to once and suffer as a result of the sanctions deliberate and just look at that can earn you know he hasn't missed a meal in quite a while and so the sanctions effective no just a contrary. and the sanctions are in moral because when thousands of children which is for sure we had sanctions against iraq under clinton's
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presidency then 500000 children die and our foreign secretary medal a law professor wells has the fortune his trial admiral damage well the models writes that it's a price worth paying but then of course this policy continues now with iran surprised about the differing policies. the d.n.c. candidates on iran you think joe biden will support the u.s.s. abraham lincoln being sent to the persian gulf to threaten iran of course you and joe voted for the war in iraq joe's conventional wisdom which the american imperialism the republican party will point in time is really reveals that they are the shrunken party but at the democratic party you know as you know that slate we are the democratic party you know under barack obama and hillary clinton
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and worsening chills savage's 7 times the legitimate election of berkeley we know that from wiki leaks of course from the protest or e-mails obviously the founder of wiki leaks is under a detention is that him by the un i'm going to want to get into that a bit more in a 2nd but perhaps one reason the so-called mainstream media doesn't want to cover you like say the join the protests in paris is that you're not a centrist like micro or about the parties in westminster here or get your friend joe biden but i'll get back to centrism was centrism today is right you know it's about half way too far right that's occurred in our country since clinton who really moved us to the right and of course this is what we hear from. from biden is that you know he's a centrist he knows centrist. if you vote for the wars and yours should share war
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monger if you buy into all the crazy expenditures of the mills english accomplish that ensures the senators will be a person that would act in a balanced fashion between what's going on in domestic really and what's going on internationally and underworld and instigating coup like word were done in the us will. well the coup that we did was just horrible because after these coups take place you have nothing nothing but confusion energy. loss of life even bernie sanders his to be toning down his rhetoric about venezuela he is speaking up about iran though is that the reason you're running to pull the agenda in that more progressive line because some people might say well why don't you just support bernie sanders and forget it there's a regional and in the race has to pull the entire group to the left
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in the wind up and centrist but but the effort and pull things to the left in my mind is just logic well what it was so illogical about one piece i'm an advocate for 2 things basically one is peace on earth and and you can accomplish that was considering wars into that even if good people get elected to office what we need is to bring people into the operational government as lawmakers obviously clinton was a war candidate obama was a war candidate but trump arguably was the peace candidate he was the one thing he didn't wars and look what happened 1st off i don't think he's smart enough to realize what bolton they were giving him. and so they feel it related him when you get the national security advisor claims that he ordered. an aircraft
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carrier. to go into the persian gulf well we've never seen that in the days of henry kissinger who really didn't brush way he never ordered this if it was ordered it was done behind closed doors but no bolters is such an egomaniac and you know rid of horrible human being you know. if he were to have his way we be at war or we go but behind us of course yours is the yahoo and israel we're trying to gin up a war with iran we're trying to gin up a war with venezuela whose say from us at this point in the world and i go into the whole nuclear problem that we face which isn't sent in any country that bite into that doesn't realize here if we are spending somewhere around 3 trillion dollars to refurbish our nuclear arsenal the government says $1.00
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trillion but they don't count the normal cost overruns but what does that mean that means that we're spending this money to develop additional weapons or better weapons when the point of fact is the mother of boondoggles because jane usuals weapons we've seen now and i know ma the representative there has been accused of anti-semitism for raising israeli power in the united states bernie sanders obviously whose family some of whom perished in the holocaust is being accused of anti-semitism do you think you are because many semitism for calling out netanyahu i don't know and i don't care that the this is a yahoo is an evil person and if you love israel you have to oppose anything but anderson you know you presumably have seen some of these wiki leaks then certainly about the pedestrian mails what your reaction to hearing that british authorities have detained julian songe in london well 1st up
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i was very disappointed by the actions of the u.k. . i don't like many many people who are a little bit mired the good side of u.k. not imperial 6 i think but whether they doing it to american pressure which is so typical this is a 2nd world war. playing on. your case losses it's encourage all and thank god slots at some period of our because that was not the best part of the u.k. julian of sunshine my mind is a hero. and along with chelsea manning. and and and the person who who were muscled lower over the atlanta's legal or other world using our technical capabilities to spy on others to sabotage others we did that in iran when we would it there and tried to.
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change the codes under centrifuges in iran. that china's whitish now they have the ability to take a technology that we developed and use it on us then when we we resent for it we resent that they resent what we did to them do you think julian assad would get a fair trial if the british authorities here agree to him being exposed extradited to the usa no if he he wouldn't get a fair trial they his that the that's a that's a given anybody who reveals the inner workings of government to the people and of course that that's that's a given that has to take place has the people know what their government's doing then of course they don't they don't impact on the policies of government so how can the people right now in the united states. express themselves on an unmoving
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the carrier for the kill into the persian gulf what or what is it about you going to do mainstream media will sustain in just reporting this fact but what can people do by giving you are at liberty and you together with daniel ellsberg help to promote the pentagon papers which reveal the lies told to the american public about the war in vietnam but you are at liberty so what do you. i mean the secrets can be told well of course with liberty but here i don't get the last time you saw me underneath me a.b.c. n.b.c. you know this mainstream media mainstream media is controlled lock stock and barrel by wall street and the military industrial complex and to try to shift the inertia this is no tools to alter that by gravelle thank you after the break. to see the leaders in not only the united kingdom but the united states as well. who continue
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to support the murderous dictator dictator majority in his 1st international interview since his suspension britain's former shadow fire and emergency services minister chris williamson explicitly responds to us secretary of state mike damnation of jeremy corbett and jeremy corbyn arguably fails to best to raise a baby on the n.h.s. a pm fuse as he avoids criticizing a former us health care boss now running british universal health care. about you have going underground. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you than. this is a steak from a water bottle found in the stomach of a fish the brand is part of the coca-cola company which sells millions of bottles
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of soda every day the idea was that let's tell consumers they're the bad ones they're the litterbugs for throwing us away and history should be blamed for all this waste the company has long promised to reuse the plastic. special projects funded. online your best bet is the end of a footy team but for now the mountains of waste only grow higher. welcome back you'd think labor leader jeremy corbyn would be on safe ground criticizing juries a mayor of the n.h.s. wednesday is the deadline for a new doctor's contract and critics of the u.k. n.h.s. master plan by former us health care multi-national boss simon stevens accuse it of formally ending britain's universal health care service to under
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a tory government spending on the n.h.s. and investment in is less than it was under labor and even with the funding announcement remains the same case mr speaker the complacent actually judum platitudes hide the reality that under the tories our health service is going through the longest funding squeeze in history but hang on if you'd been watching this show he would have seen that the crisis in britain's health care system is not necessarily a question of funding there it's government funding is hoff as a percentage of g.d.p. the donald trump funds the us system here is what g.p. dr bob guild told us about why next week's deadline is so critical after years of blairite labor tory and liberal governments they spent years disintegrating the n.h.s. breaking it up between purchaser and provider but what the integration that simon stevens is proposing is the integration of budgets before they're handed over to the insurance companies yes dr gillis alleging a bribe contract that will lead to privatisation so as long as jeremy corbyn
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doesn't talk about a structured contract that may end the n.h.s. when already government needed to resume can arguably brush away his jibes at the last general election somebody said the following they said that an extra 7000000000 pounds for the n.h.s. would give our n.h.s. the resources it needs to deliver the best possible care. the patients i want to do that well as it was none other than the leader of the opposition is this government giving the n.h.s. 7000000000 is it getting it twice that 14000000000 no it is getting the n.h.s. 28000000000. i'm proud of this government and the conservative policies record on the n.h.s. but will that funding disappear into the pockets of the c.e.o.'s of big us multinational health care companies thankfully there was a happy a union of u.k. and us celebrated opin queues in between m.p.'s pleading for starving constituents suffering austerity members across the house i'm sure would also want to join me in
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said to my very best wishes to their own highness is that you conduct your successor i join her also in welcoming the birth of the baby to the duke and duchess of sussex can i also congratulate lead you can duchess of wessex and wish him to one that's not far from. the pm suggested the leader of the scottish nationalists congratulate the earl of dun boston because prince harry is also that too but interestingly a bunch less mainstream media attention than given to make a baby was given to a celebration of another signal of u.s. u.k. collaboration by prince harry's brother william. no. one. by the blood of christ yes that's the 2nd in line to the british throne in westminster abbey heckled with calls of shame on you before you use the bible to celebrate britain's weapons of mass destruction program in scotland it's
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a multi-billion dollar nuclear weapons mass killing system long criticized for being dependent on washington consent well joining me now from dhabi in the east midlands in his 1st interview since his suspension from the british labor party is its form of shadow fire and emergency services minister chris williamson chris thanks so much for coming on the show before we get to where the threats of war all we can britain we've been hearing about are universal health care. system the n.h.s. and the g.p. doctors are under unprecedented pressure could be a part of a campaign to persuade them to sign on to simon stephens' new contract that critics say would be the end of the n.h.s. well certainly the n.h.s. has been under intense pressure from this government since they came to power in 20 turn in the passing of the social care and health act in touch 12 i think it was seen this drive towards privatization and this is just the latest iteration this proposition that's being put to g.p. is looks on the face of it quite seductive but the truth is it's system going down
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the the service it's going to result i think in people not getting the care by the professionals that they deserve and indeed pay for through the national surance and taxation system in the in the country and of course what we're seeing is an all time low in the profession more and more g.p.'s leaving and many towns and cities now down at the country are struggling actually to find sufficient to pay so it's little wonder you know that people all waiting you know a week or 2 weeks sometimes to get a g.p. appointment and i think this is yet another attempt to try and start to impose busy charging on a system and so is using the you know we really horrible to challenge very very very strongly would you call on doctors not to sign it because generally govanhill taken to drugs last word seems not to have said well i certainly have said that and indeed have put something out on social media to that effect i think it's really important that you know the g.p.'s do refuse to side obviously if there is
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noncompliance by the g.p.'s then clearly this is a system that cannot be imposed but of course what they're trying to do is to you know as you sort of if you like brought barry in the government to try and persuade g.p.'s to sign up but this is a very very slippery slope and you know people like dr bob gill have being the setting our very cogent argument is too wide g.p. should not sign and so what i've been urging and avoided. anybody who's you know watching this program to to contact the g.p. and say look you know we're happy about this and please don't sign up to it you perhaps suspect i don't know how the british media are going to be covering the fact that your shadow home secretary diane abbott will be addressing mass palestine demos today in london what do you think about the fact that perhaps there will be accusations like they have been repeatedly against your leader jeremy corbyn that is an uneasy mind well i think standing up for the palestinian people is the right thing to do they have been grotesquely abused by the israeli state particularly by
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the us and yahoo apartheid regime and we've seen casualties running into the 10s of thousands we've seen people who have been injured losing their limbs having to have their arms or legs amputated people paralyzed we've seen doctors here medics journalists children targeted. by the israeli defense force this is a humanitarian catastrophe that the israeli state of visiting upon the palestinian people and i think all right minded british people indeed all right minded people from around the world will support the palestinian people and what we need it seems to me is for the of reilley state to abide by international law they're flagrantly disregarding international law and of being given cover for that by the united states of america is absolute outrage don't jump in a 2nd but israelis say these palestinians are terrorists the b.b.c. comcast sky news another say israel has merely been retaliating to rocket fire from
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say gaza and in fact obviously previous labor shadow certainly haven't addressed palestine demos a big change in labor policy here perhaps well indeed there is a big change and it's a good thing to see that happening i think it's the right thing for the labor party to do and yes i mean the media certainly haven't reported accurately in my opinion . the scale of the onslaught from the israeli state and it's almost as if it's kind of an unequal struggle but the truth is this military giant and the israeli state aided and abetted by the united states of america and great britain it's got to be said. you know using their power against a very weak palestinian people and you know it's little wonder that sometimes some militants on the palestinian side you know retaliate but i've spoken to many people who've been to garz or been to the west bank and they've spoken to you know
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hundreds of palestinian people i've spoken to palestinians myself i'm amazed frankly by their dignity and all what they say is all they want to do is is to live in peace to live side by side but we have this this this this huge ogre of the israeli state inflicting this this this or to destruction on the palestinian people operating an apartheid state in israel itself where palestinians are 2nd class citizens don't have the same rights or under military law as opposed to you know we've really lore and. this is apartheid writ large and you know as nelson mandela himself said the you know the struggle is incomplete until the freedom of the palestinian people is is realized so i think you see it's a really good thing that is addressing the rally today and i hope that that will go a long way toward raising consciousness still further months of british people because we need to bring pressure on the british government to demand that the
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israeli state bards by international war and you know we should be as a bare minimum in my opinion be recognizing the palestinian state any progress on what speed happening to you in the british parliament any progress on your suspension for alleged anti-semitism well i'm confident i'll be reinstated by the party i mean these grotesque accusations of no basis. whatsoever and ivor submitted a very detailed and robust response to them and obviously the process in the party now which we are going through and they will be low no doubt assessing my response and it is hoping a decision will be made in the fairly near future don trump says he is trying to change things is there's been alleged leaks over his deal of the century from sheldon adelson saying u.s. sanctions military force may be used but he's sending the u.s. as abraham lincoln to threaten iran he says iran is behind the palestinians what do you think about the prospects for one that donald trump is
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a menace we're seeing this this latest development which is essentially you know browbeating or attempting to browbeat the palestinian north or a-t. into submission. with some proposition in relation to the suspects in the occupied territories and with the threat that you know of hamas doesn't go along with it of yet more military action against them i mean this is it's just so shocking it's a so appalling. you know the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is acting in this is bullying hectoring way and and supporting the ottilie of horror and activities of the israeli state will tourism is foreign secretary jeremy hunt resending next to pompei oh when jeremy hunt threatened iran saying it must not break the nuclear agreement in response to the u.s.
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violation of it and jeremy hunt indeed sat next to stood next to pompei oh well he said your leader effectively was disgusting for us or courting a majority of venezuela and up on beer indeed he later said it's up to your leader to stop cuba from supporting venezuela melissa sort of the absurd and frankly i don't think is acceptable for the foreign secretary to stand beside pompei. allow him to talk in those terms is money trying to interfere in the british democratic process is no right to come to this country and refer to the leader of her majesty's opposition disgusting in that way that's that's that's totally unacceptable completely on diplomatic language if i could but it like that and you know far from be disgusting what jeremy corbyn is doing is been standing up for human rights and you know it's a pity that you know it's the states of america don't don't do that and i'm very proud actually of the stance that jeremy corbyn has taken on this and indeed not just now but throughout his political life actually is to stand up for what's right
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so that for the decency and human rights around the world and frankly you know mike pence and donald trump would do well frankly to take a leaf out of jeremy corbin's book and start to export that piece around the world rather than the the death and destruction that they're currently responsible for is the former head of the cia and he has already said when he was the head of the cia that he wanted to target julian a son jews now in detention in belmarsh prison in london and to send you were there demonstrating support nothing from jeremy goldman's in his initial support for science for him not to be extradited to the united states while jeremy is made his position very clear on martyr nothing that's significant as has die another made a very strong statement in the house about it and i was a regrettably in a songes now been you know incorporated now for some weeks and i think i've been sentenced to a period of time for for skipping bear from istanbul reasons obviously that man should not be in prison in my view most upstanding people in the country do not
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understand what is happening how can somebody who is only crime really is to expose the most appalling war crimes visited on iraq by the united states of america under indeed has exposed all the. issues which i think you know the united states and all the governments around the world would prefer to keep secret but i think the people of iraq to know that's all he's guilty of and you know we should be venerating julius on rather than the lock in in a way in belmarsh as it is at the moment because really isn't thank you. and that's it for the show given just by social media will be back on monday to watch the man who predicted the rise of colby in a very british sure thing chris mullin if they believe his fool could come at the hands of n.y.c. .
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