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thank you. very well might continue watching on since last. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered peter lavelle donald trump's foreign policy is on steroids and the game is called forced regime change and like a flu that won't go away russia gate appears to have a life even after down.
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across talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow dimitri but he's a political analyst we spoke nick international and in france we have john laughlin he is a lecturer in political philosophy at i says the catholic university. in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want let me go to john 1st in france i came across a wonderful article most of his articles are wonderful. by pat buchanan titled all of the world's problems ours to solve question mark and he says it and i think it's quite artfully written here after an exhausting 2 weeks one is tempted to ask how many quarrels clashes and conflicts can even a superpower manage at once and is it not time for the united states preoccupied with so many crises to begin asking why is this our problem john this that this administration this white house seems to think that it is god ordained that they must solve these problems oh by the way problems that they've created themselves
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what's going on here go ahead jim. well i think this idea that. the superpower is responsible for every country in the world is obviously ridiculous but it's even more ridiculous in view of the fact that trump under trump has indeed under under 8 minutes other administrations but under trump these various attempts to as it were solve problems have failed we've seen the failure only last week as well or where of course the americans wanted to have a military coup and effect room to regime change by a coup which they would have supported if it had succeeded but it didn't succeed and this failure to effect regime change in venezuela comes on the heels of other fayemi as where the wizards of oz in washington have similarly not managed to achieve the outcome that they wanted the most obvious other examples being syria where of course regime change was the initial goal but where that goal has now been abandoned some time ago and more recently ukraine where their candidate for regime
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change in 2014 was as we all know roundly beat in the elections by a joker and this shows that this determination to run the affairs of the world is in direct proportion to the inability to do it and so we're in this crazy situation where people keep on thinking that they can manage the world but keep failing to do it and you know i remember once in 2004 in iran a very intelligent iranian minister saying to me america creates new scandals and new crises in order to cover up the existing ones exact that i think is a very perceptive of american foreign policy you know let me turn to deem we haven't mentioned iran here i mean if you look at the administration's policy one would get the impression that they're talking themselves into a conflict here and it is so patently obvious to me the only difference maybe
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between this in 2000. 3 is that they're just getting more sloppy and more arrogant well it's true and just how quickly it all changes you know in 2003 remember for 2 years they were raided the troops you know heating up pensions now i just loved another article by a pair buchanan in the american conservative walt on this war we suppose sounded more like battle cries and the beginning of the article. last week it was venice where when america's gun sights but by sunday night it was iran that was in our crosshairs we all remember you know these people bolton and compare they didn't even apologize when bloomberg and other american media outlets basically revealed the story that there was an attempted coup and it failed simply because they couldn't muster enough people you know to to support what they go so it was an embarrassment but instead overboard raising the 2 men quickly switched to iran and
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we had on board on same we want to send an unmistakable chip message to the iranian regime that any attack on the united states' interest will be mad with unrelenting force ok and what will you know what that means we turn to john you know what that means is it in any bad actor real or imagined in the in the greater middle east that does something against the united states or in its interests or its assets here iran is instantly blamed i mean that's a very convenient strategy it would say don't you john. well the thing is i don't know whether it's a strategy one is left really shaking one's head to trying to make sense of this traditionally empires wielded to her germany by imposing order yes. or not that's what empires do the american empire seems to seek to impose its hegemony by creating disorder disorder which which which never ends because
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obviously in the. at least we've had disorder and war now on a major scale for decades large largely thanks to american intervention so one is one is one doesn't understand what the strategy can be under those circumstances because distorter by definition doesn't bring about hegemony it simply keeps everybody guessing and of course adding to this basic disorder which is at the heart of the neo con vision this constant revolution permanent revolution that michael ledeen once spoke of and of course the face originally came from trotsky yet and so into this you have the extreme disorder of donald trump's own head because this is a man who obviously a kind of. schizophrenia a core some kind of pathological person who says one thing and then as the opposite perhaps it's a clever game to keep everyone get there but that's the point isn't it john but
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isn't that the point i mean it's the it's the nixon mad man theory because i completely agree with you but one could look at it from a different trajectory that the strategy is chaos though it doesn't maintain her gemini i agree with you how do you react to that. well i think i think that is right i mean to the extent that one can call it a strategy but as i say what i'm working towards is that actually this is not driven by strategy it's not driven by geopolitics it is actually driven by madness it's driven by the madness of the neo cons who want new dragons to slay all the time and who look whose lives go get meaning to the extent that they go in search of dictators much as the french revolutionaries did in the late. surely that is what actually makes them take in the morning so you have that basic madness and on top of that you have the madness of a deeply narcissistic man who thinks that whatever he does is fabulous and who as i
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say will change from one minute to a next so i don't think that this is necessarily a strategy instead i think it is what it seems to be namely it's magnificent it's very very interesting here because one can ass or make. a theory is that the boltons and the pump ayos in the abrams they see trump is their last chance to. maintain the united states believes is still the unipolarity i think that moment is close in their mind it is still there in operation and trump is there willing vessel to do it how do we act well not only. belles but also all the talk called liberals the so-called democrats i mean the recent headline in the water report we just need to trump for all of these years suddenly we have an opinion piece there headlined trump's critics were wrong he's not a madman in foreign policy you know. that when the article signed by their
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columnist can you offer anything here's what he says. the president is responding prudently to the crisis in iran people might disagree with some of the president prompts middle east policy decisions but since then try and press conducted matter for poor. actually and what is that for thoughtful action when they describe the same thing aircraft carriers to the persian gulf seen vere mike compare all of that we can see the an attack was north only they were in government sections by any actions by the brock's yes by the shia militia groups by the cooties. so i mean there are night estates has just failed to last there enough. they didn't even know you know let me go i don't know it's a really good point let me go back to john here i have a really simple solution to make sure american assets are not in personnel or not harmed go home then there will be none no one ever mentions the obvious the
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iraqis don't want the americans there anymore go home mr trump that's what you said you would do on the campaign trail how do you react. well that is the biggest disappointment isn't it about the trump presidency because when he was a candidate egypt say things that made sense like we withdraw troops indeed he said it as president he promised to withdraw troops from syria but unfortunately i come back to this idea of madness and schizophrenia because in fact i think that that is at least in his deepest level if he does have a deep level which he ducks and trump does believe a number of the things which the neo cons believe in particular he believes in the necessity of absolute domination of the international system by the united states of america he believes that very strongly and the other thing that he shares in common with the neo cons and this again is a major problem for the world is a very deep attachment to the military industrial complex whose profit since he
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wants to increase when he talks about deficits with germany and ponying up 2 percent in nato and so on what he means is buy american buy american american weapons means american jobs so he is hand in glove with the military industrial complex in exactly the same way as neo cons are and so all the hopes that people like you and me may have had that he would somehow diverge from the neo cons i think have founded on these 2 major convictions which are genuine beliefs by donald trump the in any. trump may rue the day that he did he doesn't keep these promises because there is very strong in nick indications that that was the part of the electorate that pushed him over a number of congressional districts in these were people veterans and people in uniform and their families he ran on that they voted for him on this if he continues down this path with bolton impound peo he will rue the day 30 seconds well i'm sorry the democrats you remember when he said all these things and bad why
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don't we make peace with russia why not and get their war with board and they said that this was treason that this was madness. that he was i'm quoting at dead beat you know all kinds of bad words and why did they stop lobbying him when did they have these psychical drums critics were wrong he was not a madman on foreign policy when he started saying we need something started enact being there now you know you can own it and then move it to the middle east so what they need is a war you know that now can send the so-called democrats and they have in common it all right we've run out of time john locke and thank you for joining us on this part of the program we'll see you soon we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news.
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and now we're joined by alex kristof or in nicosia cyprus he is the director and writer for the trend dot com welcome to the program alex say in the introduction of my of my program today i said that like a flu a bad flu that won't go away russia gave appears to have life even after death there's so many things to grab on to here i'm going to let's hand it over to you tell me what you want to talk about go ahead alex well peter if this is a flu then i think we know where the virus is and up irises in the u.k. and he goes by the name of mr christopher steele we are coming we are coming full circle now to to the whole russia gate hoax and once again the focus is on christopher steele what he knew what he was doing with his dasi research what it was all about who was behind the dossier research and who helped propagate the
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dusty research and i me to the evidence as to the fact that the d.n.c. was colluding with steele was colluding with fusion g.p.s. was colluding with the government of ukraine has come bell is compelling it's absolutely compelling peter you have christopher steele speaking to the u.s. state department and admitting that the was essentially a political hidden piece you have the u.s. state department passing off that information to the f.b.i. to the intelligence sources and what do they do a few days later they get a feisty a warrant based on that dossier based on that dossier after the u.s. state department said that this guy steele cannot be trusted this information that he has this dasi is ridiculous it is political research and i quote pull political research. all all the tension now peter is turning on to steal that's right you know. there are a few fox news channel will say many things that we just heard say in nicosia but
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you don't hear that on c.n.n. and this n.b.c. and a lot of other mainstream legacy news outlets they prefer to talk about constitutional crisis well it seems to me a crisis of sanity go ahead well it's definitely a crisis of sanity because let me just go to you one of the headlines from c.n.n. trump with putin to make russia great again i mean someone named michael didn't dornier or you know i'm so i was very staid a lot of money to run and why so why did he get this idea from you know why did he get this a different because most recently a door note that with the latino lengthy gabfests russia said at last at 90 minutes that craze to bounce again the question of whether trump my dad to want russia to repeat that 2016 attack on american connection i guess that he generally doesn't i guess they didn't read the mother report here let me go back to nicosia here needed to anita alex it's interesting to me and we've spoken many times about this is that
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the the the democrats the left has created a trap for itself because as we go into the 2020 election cycle what are we going to be talking about and what some people and they will be on this program here is how the democrats were culpable the f.b.i. was culpable john brennan clapper the whole komi the whole lot of them were you talking about that between now and november amazing i trap that made for themselves go ahead alex yet it gets even worse peter because the band that they want to go up against the new chosen one after hillary is joe biden and joe biden brings with him a whole legacy of scandal specifically in china and ukraine with her under by. i did it to make things even worse giuliani trouble trump's lawyer has grabbed on to this and he said that he was going to go to ukraine and take a look into it further but now he's decided not to go to ukraine and he was on fox
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news the other day and giuliani told fox news and i quote i wasn't going to start an investigation he was referring going to ukraine they already have an investigation of how ukrainians felt the d.n.c. and hillary operatives to get in some cases false dirty information about the truck campaign not only that peter giuliani actually mentioned said again a member of the ukraine parliament was already under investigation for doing what for interfering in the 2016 u.s. elections and to take things even further peter giuliani said he wasn't going to ukraine because he fears that this is a set up and a trap because the current you create the new ukrainian president has a lot of corrupt people surrounding him like to not make him. sort of her eyes surprise surprise you know it's coming full circle i mean that i want to really reinforce the point here is that william barr the attorney general he already has
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a case in his head i'm pretty sure if you look at his congressional testimony he pretty much all of the dots have been pretty much connected and is. alexander christopher and i have talked about rod rosenstein i'm sure might have helped connect some of those dots on his retirement day demon again this is coming back to haunt them and the real collusion the real corruption is going to be coming out absolutely well the problem is that trump is not true in the country as we have seen from the reaction of the media pre-historic to you know that hysterical reaction like crazy you know given our viewer us interest to russia these people kind of oil so they can for oil any peace efforts and now let's look at the ukraine you know what that exxon has. mentioned the terrible story emerges so going his people helped hillary no surprise to any of us and and when poroshenko felt that
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actually the united states was basically dumping him preferred india lansky instead he allowed his general prosecutor general yury would send court one week before the election or 2 weeks before the election to accuse them eric an ambassador in ukraine murray drive on a beach where you're one of each and he accused her of giving him the least of the touchable you know the people whom the united states by any means doesn't want to be prosecuted and it was in his interview too they feel so knowledge who is actually most likely a stooge or of the democrats or the neighbor else you know. recently or now dizzy or a ukrainian expert said that people surrounded by sources people 3 judy i knew was vile is enough to understand that he is not going to be dealing with the saliency that zelinsky won't provide the needed information he's not interested so giuliani canceled his trip so it would have been a form of entrapment because you realize already you know our bomb helped no
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nonsense to come to power in in ukraine they helped hillary's campaign then they were disappointed it decided to play trumpets against clinton nights and simply because they were such a study that they wanted they want to. be 100 clinton eyes are actually called in paul in the united states bush inc was just not clever enough to understand it so no they cleaned and i coming back with a vengeance and poroshenko was asked to come to the prosecutor's office last week he had to testify and giuliani contra come to give because he will be facing clinton stooge there missed it ends so this is the terrible story and of course the war in ukraine won't end building mrs clinton doesn't want to end it and the liberals the democrats don't currently don't because it's a cudgel against russia. that they that alex i mean i don't know if you've noticed i'm not an avid watcher of c.n.n. of course you would know that and my viewers here but it looks like they have
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a new patron saint and went from a creepy porn lower lawyer to st james komi what do you how do you reckon all of that i mean he's given a town hall extensive interview it looks like james komi he needs a lot of lawyers but he has a p.r. firm already don't you think you know he has a p.r. firm in the p.r. firm called c.n.n. but i mean they can't you can't get away from the fact that colby pressed on with the feis awards and he pressed on with her surveillance i mean the question that you have to ask peter we've talked about so many times is was told me really smart enough to do all of this or was there people behind me always know salo or he was a follower as a father so then you have to look who is the leader of the serious then who is the leader you but we both go ahead say it we both know and it was brennan at the cia and let's not forget that during the my dad who brennan paid a visit to ukraine breaded has a lot of personal animosity towards russia and he feels that putin foiled his
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efforts in ukraine with crewmate he feels that putin fault his efforts with isis and syria and the might my impression is the minute brennan saw trump an outsider getting into office and the minute that trump said that he would like to normalize relations with russia brennan started to pull all the leverage to propagate this dossier to get it out there to leak it and to start you know what essentially was a soft coup against a right it against having british intelligence spying on american citizen just for him but then again we know the f.b.i. was involved in the edema this this story has legs here at the question will be will the mainstream media cover it well it won't because as i said the 1st action he will do when he has a no go rate it is to fire you would be able to end quote. prosecute the general prosecutor general or mr poroshenko who actually spilled the beans on you go on the beach so the story is crystal clear you know there is
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a cover up indeed this ambassador you want to be acted against not only in a private conversation about almost publicly she did knowledged the president in ukraine so decided to play trumpets against clinton ised and failed because clinton i thought hold in power when the united states and this is a great story why would there marry compressive. godbout there will be no they're just a small piece of news your realtor and could go on and i think yes alex where does this go from here we're almost out of. peter giuliani told fox yesterday and we can follow up on the story we are going to cover he said the steel memorandum was written in ukraine. what do you how do you react to that i am not surprised because ukraine is not a land of the miracles and if you come on from there including in christopher steele's dossier it tells me that you know it when you get involved in business practices quote unquote business practices in ukraine it's called corruption here
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now you get involved in ukrainian politics and someone somewhere somewhere somehow is going to be accused of collusion here finish it off well if you are jeff bezos and you have billions but you support the right people you are an interpreter your if you have some whiny and you met with while you are pushing and you didn't speak in his face you are an oligarch that's the difference between already gox and then took her nose in the view of the mainstream press 20 seconds out of 20 seconds. biden is going to have to face the music peter biden was heavily involved in ukraine he was heavily involved in. the john kerry family you know this is going to have to get it best to get it there's no way around did. it is the front runner but the democrats this is a big big problem yet it's a story that isn't going to go away thanks alex for joining us here that we have all run out of time here many thanks to my guests here in moscow cyprus and in
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france and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time remember. welcome to mexico as are plentiful survival. looking forward to your sense of the. yanks this is what happens to pensions in britain. as a report. in 24 you know bloody revolution. the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you still were here to put it but i mean your list put video in the new bill is that i do split needle
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the former ukrainian president recalls the events of $24.00 g. and. those who took. invested over $5000000000.00 to assist ukraine in these an article that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. we have a situation that is very new and that's why. it's like a relay before the war with 2 people who are in the morning and there was no go to school or didn't know the 2 so the born it was the right of the world to move and it was the the as the medical and the widespread simplicity is good code of people today. in many diseases because of this would you feel that it.
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nothing like. president trump. states meeting with russia's foreign minister hopes for answers from the iran nuclear deal unravels. please tomorrow or last month compel you how the us is going to deal with the crisis that was made by washington's unilateral decisions. says the east foreign policy chief says it's vital not to escalate the situation around the iran nuclear deal. also a swedish prosecutors said.

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