rasberry you're going to be on top architecture of the middle. not her own or. someone down and down and doing that and now clark who are pretty yeah what is somewhat media where hereford allowed to talk about it must be many. that it hardly. ever needed. mandela and fidel may no longer be alive but in south africa a 3rd party in elections that's all mandela's a.n.c. perform at its worst has now emerged the economic freedom fighters of judas malema we want to be like because when we take over our government we want to increase is expected still for a lot of people because. their life expectancy is 70 to 90 years. because the. 5 cities to deal with.

these. we want to be like you about because 98 percent of those who must be in 2nd audience but i'm out of school. and as the trump wore on cuba has ratcheted up as well as venezuela's hugo chavez took inspiration from mandela we cannot go to johannesburg this week to ronnie drills revolutionary and south africa's former intelligence services minister ronnie thanks so much for coming on the show so what did it feel like as a revolutionary who for to you came back to the thing this month's election and what is the role of the communist party within the a.n.c. when they fight elections 25 years of transformation start at the stream that you well and of course of being rather difficult especially the last 10 years of corruption that it creeped in in a big way so i broke with the i and c. and the communist party to certain pointon john because of that particular train

and the way the communist party tailed behind the i and c. and jacob zuma the the previous president and i went to not vote to deny. i didn't test my heart in the process a bit like i think it's the irish you say that when you go into the polling booth you actually have to close you know there's a little bit i don't want to over exaggerate it something of that nature of disappointment is spatially for those of us who expected much more of the transformation of the outcome of the national debt brush and struggles. and hopeful and i'm old people orientated. approach social democratic you feel like but certainly to move away

from the stranglehold of neo liberal global. a free market to them which is a squeezing such problems not just for my country said i figure good for the whole world just to make sure you would contend that things would now for older people in south africa financially and economically than they were underneath the government supported by britain ok no we have to be a little careful without saying that it's hunky dory and that it's not dreadful in certain places but the is there a tendency to say ah well it was better and they're taught that it was a dismal under apartheid remember in the face place and i know you took ing about material conditions but remember in the 1st place that left people with trodden on black people with refused a dignity black people couldn't vote at tools they is change it's been

remarkable at the same time given the willed economic situation and then the clip tell chrissie of the soon period and treated it by the way the country has been sliding back and a lot of the very good programs i was to minister at one point that the i and c. had rolled out of building houses providing free walk in electricity to the poorest sick. had become a role rather did and deviated and the lack of a professional approach by a minister is. rather that splice that by summa in key positions to siphon off the largest the the funds that should have been going into infrastructure and so on has in fact been deteriorating but we've got to be a little careful of that going overboard too much of the degree to say oh well if

it's worse than. the full how if people live a life in which i need chloe mentors grown in which poverty it is increasingly in which south africa's as i'm sure you know that is the most unequal country in the world so they have not been expecting at that to latch on to looking back to well what was it like in apartheid now i get. the wealth elsewhere and they are expecting something data and that's the war. we interrupt that upset i'm going underground as the russian president vladimir putin has just had talks with his austrian counterpart in the black sea resort of sochi 2 leaders are currently giving a joint media conference. mr president ladies and gentlemen you put in you might

as well you know we are happy to welcome alexander under belen and his pals here in russia. just notable that. a year from today on the 15th of may 2020 will mark the 60 year anniversary since the signing of the founding agreement the agreement signed by the. states. the goal of world war 2 and the democratic country of austria this was an important document. of post-war reconstruction in europe that guaranteed peaceful development of austria and i'd like to underline that over decades when russia and austria we've had relations built on principles of friendship mutual respect and respect for. our own interests we have an intensive political dialogue. that i have mant mr vander bell in vienna last year and i am in constant contact

with the federal chancellor of austria mr sebastian. and just recently i've see i've met him in. today's talks with the president of austria have been traditionally friendly and businesslike and. we saw an interest in both russia and austria to proceed. in. further development of our ties we have businesses of russian austria and to we have discussed further steps for the development of our cooperation. she russian partner economic partner in europe that is why. we talked a lot about the investment corporation last year or. trade turnover increased by over 40 percent and drenched almost $6000000000.00 since the start of this year

michel turnover. rose by a clock 70 percent more of the investment of rushing to. $27000000000.00 because. we have reached such results thanks to the. work of the russian austrian commission on trade corp which saw its last meeting in may last year on the sidelines of this included the international going on that forum by the way the delegation from austria was one of the most widely represented. on the forum and i hope that this year our austrian friends will take an active participation in the forum as well. industrialists at the in a prom exhibition and the summit for industrialisation that will take place in july

in. that and we have invited. sebastian peretz the federal chancellor to visit these events as well and i hope that he will lead the austrian delegation i like to note that austrian and russian companies are closely cooperating in a number in multiple projects in machine building in high technologies in telecommunications. our country has over 1200 companies that operate through the austrian capital and aim for a long. operations in our country and expansion of their operations for example such companies. and others are planning to start production of. equipment for. 4 electrical plants in russia. the green source company and core value company will be launching in the

region the the production of the components for solar energy stations but we had signed a declaration earlier for a corporation and we are planning 28. operation projects. it. does amount to $3000000000.00 in value in russia for many years have been providing energy to. last year we had 12000000000 cubic meters. russian gas together to provide exported. we are cooperating in the creation of the north stream to project russia valis or 3 years support of this project which.

provides the energy security of the entire european continent. and important to. part of our cooperation is bilateral contacts and into regional contacts in march this year there was the future and we held the the there was the russian regions day held in austria hundreds of representatives all 4 austrian businesses took part in this event and i would like to know the of course the valuable cultural and humanitarian ties this year we have the cross cultural year of. all of the youth of russia and also of them we have agreed to hold in 202122 the year of literature. in russian and austria. we are already starting efforts to popularize literature. of our

countries in both our countries the same goes for the use of and the teaching of our language in australia and the german language in russia which we are developing times in terms of civil society and right after these talks will meet. the members of the. dialogue civil society forum we've agreed to. in vienna last year. when they got blown up and i hope that this meeting will allow us to strengthen ties between the people of peoples of our countries in sport and industry cation. in culture and in conclusion i'd like to thank the. president of austria and all of our colleagues for this productive and very constructive dialogue we've had today usually i'm confident that the agreements we've reached will help further develop the entire range of.

our corporation efforts thank you. mr broughton so thank you very much for inviting me here to sochi and thank you for a very warm welcome here please again in. an interview which has had a very interesting hour some stout dogs. we had every opportunity to change our opinions. of certain issues traditionally in russia. have had very good relations it's true for out of this century and for all this century which we see that what mr putin mansion the 95 agreement it out yesterday we are celebrating it send

a verse 3 words in 9 to 55 this agreement was signed in all syria and. declaring its independence. as on these it can go beyond the long and continuation of the 943 law school declare a shilling. it was signed so it is true that we can say that our. good relations goes back into history and we are determined to improve our relations on a number of tracks the internet and i'm pleased to inform mr president the museum is ready to return this autumn on the shore image to the russian those. that were relocated during the 2nd world war from russia came to syria to new york he longed to. go to cuba and today a dozen other things we discussed the. situation

the jewish. cries institution we talked about culture we talked about signs and there are the economy and our cooperation and this goes back dk last year we celebrated the 50th anniversary of the start of cooperation between our carburetor and richard cooperation and gas problem so you can see that these issues me closer back to your time use of the soviet union that's the kind of cooperation we are proud to have hundreds of companies. which are situated in austria in previous president of the. chamber of commerce. also the car police. come here to russia to stay and that is not a threat no. internets and i'm talking about car peroration about serving or when

you're on the show interests as for international relations relations between the e.u. and russia it is no secret mission to slant unity of. the . word not satisfied with relation between russia and your career a r i can say that i would only welcome a betterment of these relations i would like to see that means can dream and see implemented but let's be realistic we need to wait and see how things will be going on after the parliamentary election in ukraine this year. as i said already very. punctual and we've been as you say one of the same thing for years we need to maintain dialogue even though sometimes we disagree that dialogue should be maintained at all times. discussion we had to go.

on the issue of yesterday's visit of your states a pretty bumpy road to russia was very interesting to discuss the ron and recent developments around this issue as we discussed the probable cause implications for relations between russia and you also i think you know that. the god of. the issue of your income prehensile plan of action has suffered a blow after iran decided to. shift him fall back on a number of his commitment to see you know that sanctions may be introduced in the us which the u.s. has already introduced certain sanctions against iran that it made post sanctions on the e.u. members for cooperation with iran i mean that is why knock on its organ i think it's good that mr president. became president putin. to be joining the so we should dialogue meaty discuss these are not the shoes. darkly she also thinks it is

very good that this forum of the. aisle is so representative we have established different levels thanks to that forum at the level of culture and science it's not about politics only and that is very good for you in my opinion they so should dial it forward it should be further promoted and we both understand that it helps to make our relations better. to know who can also corporate with france and germany and i think again they would like to use this opportunity to divide futures are. used to visit the 1st of all next year will be celebrating the 100th anniversary of that faster poll and that is why i think it would be very good for you to come and visit and face it will be

very interesting. many reformists and many beautiful come from russia to participate because you see it russia's contribution to that festival so you know it is enormous you know not russia is a traditional participant and so could be a pleasure to see you there and again thank you for inviting me here to sochi i was really pleased to see this place this is a new place for me it's been another traditional visit to the capital is something different thank you for the future. of these years from. now we'll have an opportunity to for austrian and russian journalists to ask 2 questions each one starts with our friends from austria. seen through the press agency. yeah. plenty. ask me good afternoon.

if you haven't guessed i would live to ask you a question about the meeting with you mr president you said that both sides take interest in restoring their lation between russia and the united states. what kind of environment should be established for that to happen are you already. have a one on one meeting with. traumatic stress what do you think about such a meeting taking place in the end there where the joint governance of further action was signed. well is a good. to the talks on the highest level but the most recent upcoming opportunity to have to meet will have to meet.

during the meeting of the g. 20. if our american partners are ready to continue our contacts. or not i have. many opportunities we are open to dialogue anywhere anyplace anytime including vienna as for our relations we have discussed that yesterday to. the u.s. secretary and we i had a conversation with mr try on the telephone. interview so i feel that american partners our american partners are interested in restoring relations with at least . the issues we've outlined the issues of mutual interest with what i've had my talks with the mr perle yesterday which talked about strategic stability and security in the world issues of nonproliferation of nuclear weapons. we should go work with the new start treaty

will be expiring in 2021 and we need to know what to do about it if we want to extend it we need to start negotiations talks about that as soon as possible and we have mutual interests in the area of resolving regional conflicts i'm talking about of ghana. so you syria. you and a number of other areas there are multiple areas in the world quite a lot of them actually unfortunately and without our active participation in this work or words is unlikely to be very effective now finally there's the north korean issue and we are of course interested in resolving into it in such a way that all sides are satisfied with the results and of course the nuclear problem with iran the. is a very acute issue related to the entire of.

this issue asians in the middle east so we have a lot of topics to discuss a lot of areas to discuss including the economy yesterday as. the u.s. has become the world's largest producer of oil but and we need to see how this affects the oil markets and there are other areas for us to discus with most know that well the most of the boeing planes are produced from russian. and we know that and we are ready to discuss that we have many other areas to discuss but it's not about us it's about their american counterparts about our american partners when they are ready to open dialogue we will of course step forward towards them. we can see that.

that's a lot being done for this to happen for example the miller report. that there was no kind of interference of russia in the american elections well let's see what happens next. and we continue now is russia's journalist please nobody good afternoon everyone obviously you know my question goes to bowl for leader. so you think about the u.s. . problem all the sanctions should north stream to. break with that austrian kompany leave the project because of these risks and i mean the oil company thank you. do i wish gonzaga your intro and you're giving. us or you ignore stream i believe.

in the jury room so it does not want to leave that project should i repeat could you hear me north in australia is known going to the north to. the gas consortium it has. no plans of that kind that we invested in a lot of the we are ready to deliver on our commitments. even if the us. had been cheaper then they're rushing to say beauty and gas or something you can create that would not have changed a lot on the sugar on the show so it was given the current situation the us has no we cannot make reason whatsoever to change its position because of the situation you. if well talking. about.

when we're talking about the north stream or some some other projects we have talked about there to many occasions i'd like to say this again under the. awning under the guise of some political reasons. what we can see is happening is actually . bets faith for competition. and we know that their product is not better in terms of quality but they're trying to impose their products on. other potential markets for them. with all strays not the largest country in the world but to protect the interests it doesn't require nuclear weapons all that's required is political in will and of course companies have to deal with the pressure coming from the u.s. especially companies working in the u.s. market. this is not

a mystery everyone knows that. this is the sovereign decision of a country our partner country as far as i know and are ready to cooperate with us to continue to cooperate with us in the future despite all kind of bad faith efforts from our american colleagues when i believe that other companies realize they are responsible. for the development of their country's economy is. the entire. energy of a country if it costs more than the economy of the country on the whole you will be worse off in terms of competition and others will use cheaper. so all of this. at the end of the day hinges on the political will of

our friends and we will give you i believe that the will will complete the project and will successful in that you know it's easier to work. with the europeans once mr erdogan makes a decision she. actually does it while with our european colleagues we continue to work on the same issue for years for decades still the european union is an important partner of ours and we are reaching 300. $1000000000.00 which is worth of a corporation. used to be $400000000000.00. because the north stream project. is important and it's in the interests of europe and i think through with it. they continue and it's the

journalists i think mr president. why. and if i can have. them i push and ghosts. and. pushing for us. to sign on to thank recently we've seen their rise in tensions over the joint comprehensive plan of action comics what could russia do to save their deal. to do this. one despite that agreement to stay alive so what should be done to make that happen and on my 2nd question. what does europe expect from brush it do you think that russia will say that agreement. we. i've always supported this see. this deal and we've worked on it with our partners. the key role

in signing this treaty was played by iran and south and by the united states and we were close so we helped. in the process is we're reaching an agreement. and so we deserve. it is regrettable that. this deal is collapsing because we always good for maintaining in some way after the signing of the deal that action is going to be iran. became the most transparent the most onerous country in this respect in the world and the the i heard from. officials that iran is completely and fully implementing. the.