after it had said we're going on the ground $48.00 hours after swedish prosecutors reopened their investigation into wiki leaks founder julian assange we are currently waiting for a response from britain's crown prosecution service as to whether they once again contacted the swedish government in an argument attempt to change the course of justice in the case of the most famous publisher in the world coming up on the show on that quick day we speak to any casseroles south africa's former intelligence services minister who fought apartheid alongside nelson mandela about why the new enemy of his country is neoliberalism and backstabbing spying in the struggle for power from the west to the british parliament with game of thrones your only move ahead of the show's final episode but how soon before trump's warplanes bombed run off to the unprecedented deployment of the u.s.s. abraham lincoln to the persian gulf all the support coming up in today's going on the ground a 1st to britain's old colony of south africa whose apartheid regime was sponsored

by both main u.k. parties until the fall of the berlin wall in 1901 the crucial fact of our ongoing anglo-american support for an institutionalized racist nation in africa was perceived strategic power against international communism and while nelson mandela arguably sold south africa out to the i.m.f. he never forgot the debt he owed to for instance cuban communism when he was finally freed from 27 years of defacto u.k. backed detention for going to grow plumbing for strippers and there you go about him sort of like blue collar does not want to go on for a little bit in an actual business that i think we're told would be to get a raspberry you're going to be on to our pockets are. not one of the oh no. don't. do that and now talk we're pretty yeah i want to get some of meeting where arafat loud. i lie.

that is hardly. ever new. mandela and fidel may no longer be alive but in south africa a 3rd party in elections that saw mandela's a.n.c. perform at its worst has now emerged the economic freedom fighters of julius malema we want to be like fidel because when we take over our government we want to increase the expected sewer for our people because. their life expectancy is 70 to 90 years. because the. 5 cities to deal with disease. we want to be like you about because 98 percent of those who must be in 2nd audience. be out there and as the trump wore on cuba has ratcheted up as well as venezuela's hugo chavez took

inspiration from mandela we cannot go to johannesburg this week to ronnie revolutionary and south africa's former intelligence services minister ronnie thanks so much for coming on the show what did it feel like as a revolutionary who for to you came back to the thing this month's election and what is the role of the communist party within the a.n.c. when they fight elections 25 years of transformation start at the street knew you well and of course of being rather difficult especially the last 10 years of corruption that it creeped in in a big way so i broke with the i and c. and the communist party to certain point in time because of the particular trained and the way the communist party tailed behind the i and c. and jacob zuma the the previous president and i went to not vote to deny. i didn't test my heart in the process

a bit like i think it's the irish you say that when you go into the polling booth you actually have to because you know there's a little bit i don't want to over exaggerate it something of that night show of disappointment is spatially for those of us who expected much more of the transformation of the outcome of the national debt brush and struggle. and hope full i'm old people orientated. approach social democratic you feel like but certainly to move away from the stranglehold of neo liberal global. a free market to them which is a squeezing such problems not just for my country said africa but for the whole world just to make sure you would contend that things would now be

able in south africa financially and economically than they were underneath the government supported by britain ok no we have to be a little careful without saying that it's hunky dory and that it's not dreadful in certain places but the is there a tendency to say ah well it was better and they're taught that it was a business. remember in the face place and i know you took ing about material conditions but remember in the fist place that left people with trodden on black people with refused the dignity black people couldn't vote at tools they is change it's being remarkable at the same time given the willed economic situation and then the clip tell chrissie of the soon period and treated it by the way the country has been sliding back and a lot of the very good programs i was to minister at one point that the i and c.

had rolled out of building houses providing free walk in electricity to the poorest sick. had become a role rather did and deviated and the lack of a professional approach by a minister is a. road splice that by suma in key positions to siphon off the largest the the funds that should have been going into infrastructure and so on has in fact been deteriorating but we've got to be a little careful of that going overboard too much of a degree to say oh well if it's worse than. before how if people live a life in which an in clothing mentors grown in which poverty is increasing in which south africa's is i'm sure united is the most unequal country in the world so

they have not been expecting at that to last i want looking back to well what was it like in apartheid. the wealth elsewhere and they expecting something data and that's the warning to the i and c. and that's why between elections people who in the end vote for the a.n.c. in mess you know the 555657 percent now it was up to 70 percent and decay but even they in between elections people that put the un in cloyd go demonstrate. their direct infrastructure even night desperate to call attention to their needs for the government to really solve the problems and the problem is self serving government and ministers who have not bothered to solve people's problems and now the

a.n.c. people say has been given a 2nd chance is the 6 elections it's not a 94 so it's the 6 chance not the 2nd 2nd chance full force or will run the toes of for sure well from one demographically young country do another demographic place today is not red day you think that what you came back about i did. bad is what you came back to tax on gaza in effect britain of course selling ever more sniper rifles to israel at the moment what we hear about nonstop the mainstream media and from the israeli government we invite the israeli ambassador on this show israel says it just retaliates 2 iranian backed rocky. oh yes you know. this is this is the language of apartheid south africa they would say had to defend themselves against terrorism because they were occupying a people

a leg would just as a sayings that african people have land is the palestinians land has been. taken and robbed hijacked from then. the killings the genocide which is incremental. cleansing of the lack of real rights by people let alone you know occupied taught that within israel itself is bad that i've seen as bad as colonial oppression that bain and her reigned us and the british and the belgians and the french and we know genocide and bombings and mutilations and slavery that we have for goodness sake from the 20th into the 21st century and because of texts americano and the e.u. the israeli the zionists are able to do what they wish and they just get through

war dead by jerusalem. by the golan heights and in terms of tromso. of the century what is that to correlate what's going to happen next in gardens of this is a product like state that's israel wanting with the palestinians are not but they have what the south africans head they never say die they have got sung what they determined they never gave in and they say this is just struggle and good luck to them they need all our support e.d.'s it to national solidarity. can i talk about that just writing i mean there's no. banned from speaking in apartheid south africa. yourself you said you a ban from talking about boycott divestment sanctions i mean they were. in tel aviv would you say that madonna and the b.b.c.

and the other promoters of the euro vision going to be in the context of you being banned in europe and talking about it disgraceful and to remind them that it was b.d.s. select international boycott solidarity it's a trial that helped deal with apartheid so with the end of apartheid because it fade in to the struggle of the south african people and the madonnas and these artists in countries like britain and so many others let an american countries are brazil it's a track and these east european racist countries that have been so anti semitic in their history. they come to israel whether it's the euro vision contest whether it's for the siege on gaza whether it's to support israel if every way the equation of b.d.s.

. with anti semitism or the chitta met necessary criticism of israel as anti semitic this is an absolute shame it's a disgrace and they will relate to one day because there's no way that the palestinian quest for justice similar to the south african one when we were cool terrorists win thanks to 10 and a terrorist that in the end they will be forced to eat they would. and in relation to the lessons of the 2nd world war all of the holocaust and the millions and millions of others apart from. 6000000 jews and i i come from that background. that particular lesson was one full justice one for. teaming with old people with full human

decency and zionist israel breaks all those rules and has not learned the real lesson of the hell of course or the lessons of judaism which is do unto others as you wish them to do and to you it's a simple as that. today sunday is the last episode of game of thrones we speak to the socialist who plays syria for real about edward snowden unlocking the secrets of the ravens and his reports most of us backed. saudi arabia the u.a.e. alleging sabotage of oil tankers in the persian gulf. for another gulf of tonkin all of them all going overboard to going underground.

as a financial survival guide stacey let's learn to laugh let's say i'm a. thank you for. the story that's right. slavery. join me every 1st week on the alex salmond shill and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. welcome back joining me now to go through some of the week's top stories specifically about the threat of a war with iran is the editor of the british muslim news site 5 pillars and a press t.v. journalist. thanks so much for coming on the channel what are you making of all

this talk of war with iran with this is c.n.n. . well yeah i think. dependent for. me it's a saudi oil and initial u.s. attempt to try to figure out well. it points to iran i think the key word is mystery no one knows what happened here obviously the israeli and u.s. intelligence services already fingering iran for it but that is you know what they usually do because they want to blame iran for everything under the sun but what we're seeing here is a build up to war i think and the u.s. is doing everything it possibly can to provoke iran into some kind of 1st strike which iran won't do we've seen the us pull out over the international treaty which was lauded as was that one of the great peace treaties of our time we've seen them introduce or strangle iran with these economic sanctions which are causing havoc in

iran they are in effect a declaration of war we see u.s. warships and warplanes moving into the persian gulf just imagine if it rained in warships and warplanes moved into the gulf of mexico so far the european union has been on iran's side and there's not a lot along with the u.s. violation of the nuclear agreement but then jeremy hunt britain's foreign secretary very quick to say if iran then violates enrich in response to the drumbeat ministration iran better watch out of the british design find the european position a bit hypocritical obviously in a way it's an achievement for iran that for the 1st time in a long time europe has actually taken an opposite stance to america and stood by the way you know that is unprecedented but on the other hand they just seem to be paying lip service to that international treaty without actually appeasing iranian concerns ok but the family own new york times here presumably echoing trump

administration accusations that iran is sponsoring terrorism and old the rest of it regardless of a white house reviews military plans against your own in echoes of iraq war frightened that there may be a gulf of tonkin incident will she will get the european powers that could have been we have to be a part of this coalition that could have been the u.a.e. answer that. but obviously it was strange because it wasn't really trumpeted as such in the us media and if you think it was like a false flag operation it would have been trumpeted more by the us media is very much a mystery all i can say is we're going through a psychological warfare period at the moment but what i must stress is that iran is not iraq in 2003 it's not libya in 2011 it's not the defeated country iran has the ability to strike back in the persian gulf there are plenty of american targets in the persian gulf in there are plenty of american targets in cuts for example they have

a big air base there iran can settle fires in syria iraq in israel it also has the ability to choke the world's oil supply by closing down the straits of hormuz so if the americans want a war then this is not going to be a one sided war it will be a catastrophic war not just for iran and it will be for iran as well but for the west and for israel and for the persian gulf region itself the b.b.c. very close ally of the british council arguably saying iran jails british council work of the day in inverted commas i presume they don't need the inverted commas but wouldn't move what about the cold war as it were because all we hear about is iran jailing people british citizens wrongly well i mean i want to comment on this particular incident i don't know much about it i'll just plead ignorance all i know is what i've seen on the media which is odd because we have is a story of murder on the iranian people involved well i mean i can tell you what

the iranians think the iranians think that. western countries and israel are trying to get spies into the country and they're often doing that through dual nationals we have the famous case of nasa needs are going to radcliffe you know she's called nazneen in the in the british press because they want to humanize iran they give her full full title now the iranians feel that she's a spy they're proof that she's a spy she's put on trial. i just put in jail the british made a big deal of her case and that was a big mistake in my view because as soon as you make it a massive big deal in the media then the iranians can't be seen to their own domestic audience to back down britain has effectively made the u.k. a diplomat and even a diplomat no they're completely illegal in british policy has it worse and that is how we handle as widely that's the way the iranians work by making it such a media fanfare they effectively sealed zardari radcliffe's apply what's going on to the nation from pakistan because you mention the straits of hormuz is there even wider. context to this buggers than against any u.s.

attack on iran pakistan of course a new clear fully nuclear armed nation unlike iran well iran is not isolated everyone likes to pretend that it's iran against the rest of the world or the international community iran has very powerful friends unlike iraq in 2003 and right libya in 2011 it has it is friends with 2 of the biggest superpowers in the world russia and china it has allies in south america africa in the region it has allies in baghdad in damascus in beirut's even in sana'a ok but do you think the leader bugs that imran khan and leaders like that will always be able to triangulate because saudi arabia's concerns here are the same as watching this is geopolitics action obviously every nation tries to balance its interests its own national interests come 1st trying to balance between different nations i think in montana in pakistan is pivoting towards china trying to pivot away from american dependence towards countries like china he's also trying to establish good

relations both with saudi arabia and also with iran so it's a balancing act and only time will tell to see how he does show moment to thank you thank you. well the e.u. election campaign comes to an end this month as does the hit t.v. show game of thrones with some observers. noting that one is increasingly resembling the other joining me now is someone you want to know you're in a movie played fan favorite character serial for real on the show and has sparked fury for declaring himself a socialist on social media as welcome to going on the grounds of the freedom of series aid to be this series know how well obviously this being a political program the old american fans were really disappointed in some of them because they tweeted i mean hundreds of thousands of people retreated of you asking what do we say just socialism and then a picture area store blowing north today and then you said i do not condone this.

you personally or is that the character you play me. i've been a very i mean i've posted much about it and u.k. politics and the meltdown we're having and it's very interesting that whatever i write as myself you know it kind of generates a certain amount of interest you know from people who kind of know me and follow me but when i posted that it was because it was connected to that me of syria for all that literally my twitter feed exploded i've never had such a reaction and all because i kind of came out as a comrade no mail from donald trump all trump inversely tweeting actual game. after the reported russian meddling in the. elections and yeah it's outrageous and and the creators david and dan of game of thrones they immediately

you know. hit back saying you know you do not use our imagery to keep the politics out of it but it is a political program where it works where it works best the story is all about the brutality of politics and a world where you know death is this close or times people say the general public are bored of politics when the biggest sure it is just politics between different. people love it the most when it deals with the dynamics between people wanting power that's what i think is really interesting it's an epic fantasy which kind of has grown more and more epic in it in its in its storytelling you know you have people coming back from the dead you have dragons you have you know this kind of amazing vivid visceral storytelling but really where it really lives is

in how people do whatever it takes for power but certainly beyond the wall is this idea of climate change do you think which is more ironic with. the winter is it completely misses the point of the show. yeah i've heard that i've even heard about the dragons being representing. the nuclear threat as well if there are things that represent represent current political concerns because you i know you become obsessed by the brics debate certainly way back when we know look at war change our lives. i was one of the millions of vote of the brics. and the e.u. is the largest and imprisoning catalan politicians which they are and of course ludes drownded the mediterranean of the unit yes yes how can you say you're alone. now i must stop i was employed by

a stark and the thing about stocks is that they have on a and i mean i was very lucky i played a character that was very honorable i gave up my life to save a girl that i barely knew and clearly the ravens the messages being bussed drawn reference to edward snowden julian as. mass surveillance well the very amazing thing about the ravens is that of course they use it to communicate so they they they would travel great distance in very short space of time but what's even more interesting is that there is the idea of the 3 i drape and which is where someone actually walked into a raven and then can surveil the whole thing in some kind of mystic they can see the future and the past so when you talk about mass surveillance that really is the driven is is the metaphor for that i think but if climate change. nuclear weapons dragons thing was even indoors where the bulletin of atomic scientists you're going to. be able to figure that out but you do support extinction rebellions climate

change in your logical disaster zone well on your radio. well my fear of the say is that i see wall where my fiance is. a teacher and. an environmental scientist and she i mean she educates me every day about what is our impending you know the future. there is coming faster and faster and and you know we should have been doing things in the seventy's to really need to get what's happening now we've left it's so late that this is why when the when the american congress starts talking about a new green deal. it's so radical but he has to be radical because without that we don't really stand a chance to actually reverse the problems that we're going to be facing in 20 years time because of course the brawl with actors going out for exemption rebellion resort quickly emma thompson started to use

a voice for it immediately accused of hypocrisy typical accuser more. actually. hard because it's like it's very easy to kind of kind of look at people who have a certain kind of profile and think that it's very easy for them to talk about it and call them hypocrites but the reality is that we're all human beings and we all have to take responsibility for what we believe in and try and spread what we believe in with 2 other people communication and discourse is the only way we kind of educate each other and what's horrible about the kind of tribalism we live in at the moment all over the world is that people have stopped listening to each other it's just about are you on my team or the other team breaks it seems of throwing everything up in the air because i completely understand this idea of respecting

the referendum vote i do understand that but at the same time. you're dealing with feelings. this kind of response to immigration this response to austerity is very easy and people have done it throughout history you know if you don't want to get blamed for something that's happening to your people you blame some. else and that's what i felt like. i could say which character does that but since no one even thinks tony blair's labor i'm not breaking the regulations who is tony blair. i think. i think he's taiwan he's the charles dance character here 1st does your and i were thank you and that's of the show will be back on saturday with an exclusive interview performance of long live palestine with activist and hip hop artist loki to commemorate israel's eurovision contest i feel that. the on topic.

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but there is. a lot of. emotion a lot of people's opinions are a lot. of. pushing to nor does u.s. officials in iraq to evacuate as soon as possible to raise the alarm on the international stage over a supposed increased threat coming from neighboring iran. security in the future of russia's relations with washington lead the way in discussions in salt cheap as president putin pulls out washington but putting the iran nuclear deal with painting tehran as the bad guy. plus the u.s. attorney general investigates t.v. galatea of evidence used in the rush to trump.