house it was absolutely unimaginable is the united states really still emotionally volatile as it as it come comes across on the cable channels i don't know whether this is a special for america in any quote unquote free country as. emotionally volatile look at this right now i mean it is. i think what we had experience is something else i think that united states. is on the declining part of the life cycle curve. all systems born grow a church and. i think united states was at the prime of the 2nd world war 1000 fifties when the system is aging. like a human being or any system it starts falling apart. and what is happening in america is that we are getting dizzy degrees in the manifestation of the does

integration is a high pitch very emotional feelings and aggressiveness and the left against the right there is the can of course but if you look at the poor many of the trans that trungpa exemplifies polarization and economic grievances they were present in the american society long before him for example polarization started growing in the midnight the whitest polarization politically it started really intensifying. almost 3 decades ago in 2000 it was clear that they can all make system was structurally flawed and yet it took another decade for trying to come on stage and to kind of galvanize all that resentment with the system why did it take so long in the lifecycle you cannot predict how long something it takes but what we do know and i suggest he's not because of the

polarization. he's a manifestation of course i have to do and it's accelerating it and what i have against is not so much what is doing is what is the how is he doing it he's causing fruit this integration of society and that is very dangerous for america because what america had as an asset there is a set of the america was not the chronology others have it not money that have it not size other have it it was the culture the culture of being american can be german american jewish american polish american russian american and working together with mutual trust and respect that he's destroying he's drawing the most important asset american that is destroyed not just by trying by men. i think it's very common for many countries to blame your mistakes of failures on somebody else

and for him there is but the whole miller probe shows that the liberal liberal establishment mrs newsome we externalize. his integrity is not the cause is the one accelerating it look let me give you something is not your questions when bush won by a decision of the supreme court. the other guy conceded no program if trump loses the election next year is going to be riots in the streets is not going to go easily it's going to further break down the country but he are focusing on trying but i find it a little bit unfair because he won more than tiers ago and for the last 2 years we had this investigation which. you know centered around absolutely improbable charges and yet it took 2 years for him just to clear his name is he at the end entitle to

a little bit of you know grievance and emotional reaction to. the president not to be emotional instability saying i'm probably the miller report on the fairness of the. what did you say. it is a shame that was put under this situation you know your president had to go through this difficult but is making. the breakdown of the society if i are kuzio of something that you're not guilty and i accuse you for 2 years every day every minute on national television i'm sure you would also feel a little bit of a justification and i'm saying is it truly that gets above it ok now that the miller report the stablished that he is indeed not a russian agent do you think the liberal community. will find it easier accepting that it was down the hall last $2060.00 in the lead. actions that it was that trump indeed is a grassroots american response to their policies over the last couple of years i

don't think the liberals will accept anything. i mean politics you don't accept because important we lose a relationship. i just came across an interesting american poll by usa today which suggested that over 50 percent of americans agree with trying statement that miller was if we chant and i think it's an interesting number because it's much larger than his core base which to me suggests that even those who dislike him a tired and fatigued by this constant drama do you think that's right conclusion do you think the americans are ready their merican public now the american political class but the american public is ready. i think the american public is the continuous fighting from the left and right in the considerations back and forth using the democrats over the semitism the democrats

accusing him of being corrupt. people. it's not only in america over the world democratic systems people are tired of the politicians period they're looking for somebody to be a leader who's not a politician and that's what's happened he's not a politician that's why they're electing people that are not politicians that they want that are coming out and there's danger too because you don't know what you're buying you said in one interview that the success of any system is determined by how little is wasted on internal fighting and backstabbing and by that measure the united states is clearly more dysfunctional than a number of the question is can you walk back from degree of polarization and party partisanship. i don't think so because to reverse it it requires a political power political will doesn't exist and so much polarized that i don't i don't see who is going to be able to unite it to make the change who

the change is much more structural. i think it's much bigger than what we see because we live in a society today where materialistic model can only grow one economy growth is causing the destruction of the environment. i'm claiming that those standards of living are going up or quality of life is going down. for some yes for others. i'm not quite sure but i agree that the american model economic model is based not up to a large degree on over consumption so whatever trying to talk about that to change that to change the society of quality of life and to change to the competitive environment but. which i don't see happening. from what i read that level of political polarization was also present

after the vietnam war and yet both parties in the united states found enough strength in themselves to move towards bipartisanship partially because they had the soviet union as a call common enemy and it was only after the soviet collapse in the mid ninety's that the rates of polarization started growing up invariably do you think the united states can be united without an external threat. i think it will be because united even was an external threat no but seriously how it wouldn't go it was that honor because i think you have to understand 2 things which i don't think that russians understand. first the world most of the americas don't know the difference between soviet union and russia for them russia so that you know that that is simplified most of america's never left america never traveled outside the home that they don't know and that is one of the calls that russia is considered to

be an enemy although if you come to russia in the market ever spoke market there the private privately what is it always make english reread america. but evan it does not know that the celt of united states don't know russia is soviet union so that you know it's going to them by the finish and then i mean the next thing is that we have to understand then i'd say that eisenhower say that he called him a very bad names it's called the industrial military complex they invest in military complex needs to have and me to be able to get budgets to build their own place to be there at moments and that the minute they meet they need to have an enemy and not american history that set the industrial military complex that's been advanced and you're correctly that you believe that regardless of whatever findings . they relationship between our military complex is that i think foreign

policy because the real enemy for me is not russia and china but china is a big market big market we will make a deal because it's the business is driving the decision like that well mr jesus we have to take a short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned. it's up to us to see on his attorney when they get cornered because there will be. no. more which of. those of me will you tell you you're going to get out just to

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. welcome back to worlds apart with a cock eyed these as a best selling author and management consultant dr jesus just before the break we were talking about the crisis of american democracy and i remember that a few years back people like to talk about the in the visible hand of the market that all who had us to the global financial crisis back in 2008 do you think that

maybe this idea that democracy has self correcting property also needs to be reconsidered because generally speaking when american politicians talk about democracy they presumed that because you have a diversity of opinions those differences you know they the system may be slow but ultimately it will produce the best result now it seems to be totally paralyzed by partisanship i think a deal there. and. the market corrects itself is already discredited nobody believes in it anymore because the market thinks it time to correct itself by the time the change is so big there is another change it is an absolute change i think that the hidden hand today is very clear with the hand this is called government the government involvement in the economy is so visible that now the whole question about freemium market economy is the question mark was it really is democracy the same thing is it's not so of course acting itself anymore

but it's not self correcting itself in the united states and in the u.k. which is another major western democracy which is paralyzed by partisanship but in other countries in other western countries i think it's working pretty well. in germany for example in the nordic states it's still functioning pretty well i mean they have their disagreements but they have a functioning state they can still do some sort of policy my question to you is whether there is something special about the united states and the u.k. maybe their historic trajectory there and the standing of democracy that led them to to the point when they are unable to govern. the rate of change is accelerating it's not just accelerated to any progress coming one of the it's all to becoming more what's called. it's multidisciplinary so changes in technology have an immediate response impact on the economy and economies social activities of the

legal legal and political it's or be very complex who is going to solve it it needs something that can be about the military discipline is the soul of them and it's a government and the government is paralyzed it's a big bureaucracy and who is making the laws in the making more and more laws so what's happening is they believe by a legal environment they can regulate but it's becoming more and more bureaucratic more and more part of life that's what's causing what we really need is to learn how to decentralize self governing bodies not governed by the center because the center is paralyzing everything now i know that you and other big fan of donald trump but since he's having such a big day today there is a sense to be a lot of celebration in the white house let me ask you how would you handle this major victory that he just got a report and bloomberg described. the publication of that report as as

a major achievement of his presidency so far i'll go on the program is a lot of what he does. a program with how it does it but nobody's perfect them in. varying on the one front he is failing on another kind of people are more imperfect than others you know so that's also true i'm i'm i'm worried because is this drawing in my judgment the major asset of america which is its culture would probably do changes from president to president as long as you don't destroy the platform base there you know that the platform still delivering for the americans wasn't that the reason why he got elected in the 1st place because from. bush to obama one of comes to the you know ordinary americans they they they didn't question is why he was elected you know that's a different question i was one of the alluding to jim a previous answer to that as the problems are becoming more and more complex people

are looking for big papa was going to say let the story for you. and he comes across as very self-confident. seldom right but never a doubt you know he is he knows everything and some people who are simple minded and have a lot of simple minded people in the world they love that they feel confident the american economy is growing isn't that what ultimately matters he's capable of delivering i mean he delivered on some of his campaign and that is what the expense . is destroying the environment be pulled out of the control of the environment he's pulling out the protection of the workers at the work at the workplace he is making in making make a lot of money but at what price to society we will see in one of your articles your fraud that he is going to be reckless he will skirt the law he will violate the constitution i'm sure of that didn't the miller reports prove you're wrong

because not only they found him free on not only they cleared him of the collusion charges but they also did not find him guilty of the obstruction of justice is trying to push the envelope and see how far it goes he doesn't accept the end of the law he doesn't accept the. personality type which i recognize from executives that they know and he was an executive before they don't accept boundaries always try to push the boundaries to see what the limit is so only question is when is he going to look. every week he has another crisis the war of the world china of the china russia of the russia the guy doesn't stop he likes to say i called him an incendiary you know is that he. likes to start files all the time i don't do them live reports exonerates him at all he just survived one. they're going to be more but don't you think that he is reelection in 2020 is

a little bit more likely a day than it was last week yes. because they don't have a good competitor don't we even by then there isn't then or gee trample it in for breakfast a very small body on the other side that can stand up to him because he also lies and capable of saying things which have no basis whatsoever in reality but he says it in such a confident voice that the people people accept it now you're loaded to that you have your own classification of letter ship and you're described as eat. down for interpreting earth an arsonist or arsonists you start fires all the time what does it mean in broader terms the personality of what they call a big. is very creative and he likes to takes risks he likes energy like the excitement. and is very self-confident to the point issue

around himself that different words in different languages people clap hands if you don't clap hands you're fired and people don't challenge you look so many people resign from the white house how many people can work with him you can only work with him it's called yes yes. and that way and because of that because the legs excitement in this book is all the time going he's still running for reelection they got the legs that is going to bring still big meetings and new lows because he always talks about how many people were in the crowd big guys. but that's in itself is not the disqualification for presidents i mean there is nothing in the american founding documents that preclude a person like this one being elected. as long as it's controlled it's good to have an engine i just wrote a letter open letter to lopez obrador the new president of mexico who is

a calling the left leftist trump tremendous radius 3 other than 6 the priorities blah blah no. no holding back no focus and no it's like a car which is stronger engine good willing steering wheel but no brakes that's what i'm afraid of i'm afraid of stump no brakes we began this conversation by us stressing the strength of the american institutions americans usually pride themselves on having a situations that serve not the political leadership but actually the country can they still take that for granted especially again in the aftermath of the investigation it can mean trust the intelligence community to be free of. all these guys go after old institutions because it's the 2 sions of the brakes and they don't. breaks trump went of the central bank he went after the of the he didn't

go off to the central bank he was frustrated and here fired off a couple of tweets but that's not the closing of the central bank i mean. you are very forgiving. as a president you have to move when to speak and when not to speak i'm claiming they hung in the hierarchy this small it should be the most and the biggest should be your ears he is big mouth and small this is not good mr jesus i'm not by any means defending trump what i'm trying to ask is that sometimes when you have such a polarizing personality people may think that subverting the normal procedure is justified you know and i think that's a particular quality on the left i mean i think there are many studies academic studies that show that people on the left are particularly intolerant of. in a political difference and they they may be more prone to defending the system and

violating the law in the process don't you think that the american institutions for example the american intelligence have been subverted by the by their own efforts you protect america from trump. but you know we don't have enough evidence he's accusing everybody. is like. your style you know if you're not for me you're against me but come on stalin killed people in the. early the personalities that you're either for me or against me the danger is that he's not saying it's ok to disagree with me let's have a look what do you disagree about what the disagreement is style not only him all these people that they have that was another style as they say the very their own legend in their own opinion. but never in doubt. and that's one of the difficulties when you go up to this. in the middle and the sick and the secretary

of justice and the central bank and who's who is left that is not it's not held the. regime of the medical society that's my problem how do you thing it all i don't want to say and what do you think it will all lead to what kind of leadership style will be americans looking toward to after trying to leave the scene whether it's in 2020 or 2024 this is in the very difficult to predict but there's going to be reelected be reelected the 220 i believe and if he doesn't get reelected we're going to have riots going to be a difficult time in american to 202020 because i'm not going to accept it he's not the type to walk in lose he's not a loser he says i will accept the vote as long as they win the world i will accept

the vote the slogans and win which means if i don't win i don't use of the vote well mr davis we had a little like that boris yeltsin i mean who opened fire at the parliament with almost 200 people killed and the american president bill clinton called him the next day and said nothing about you know the victims and supported him their next presidential election so i mean the real russians know how it feels but we also know that sometimes it's good to have what americans call a humble piety the humble pie do you think that merican need that moment of humility when they are humiliated by their own little ship and. by the leaders you know i think we need a leader that integrates us obama was such but the totally good discredited by trump was and this was his opposite personality total wasn't he also discredited by his own policies for example he's only been. action and they should. know the whole

country i mean and you know the mystery and the mystery no question about it but that doesn't mistake is much bigger than anything trump has done yet we'll see. we'll see i think we will need that but i don't think we're going to get it because look. this system calls for its leader. when the company is. the lead that leads to people. that people believe that this. they expect. that it deserves because we are going to lead. them well this is another very inspiring but we have to leave it there really appreciate it. well let's hope for the best thank you thank you very much for your time. to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and. same place same time here.

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