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tv   Worlds Apart  RT  May 17, 2019 12:30am-1:01am EDT

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hello and welcome to. the an event full of wrapping up of the miller investigation may have cleared the american president of treason and collusion allegations but certainly not of his critics determination to get rid of him is the american system still capable of anything settling the ideological scores to discuss that i'm now joined by it's. a bestselling author and management consultant the great pleasure talking to us and thank you very much for your time. now as i was watching the coverage of the reports what struck me is that some people on the american left seem to be just as traumatized by not being fallen to be an american every agent as they were traumatized by him being elected did it come as a shocker to you that he after all he's not a. young
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look at the cover. the. but. russian spy president of the united states it is so far fetched that they don't think that they're real population and i think that the military. report. is a very good sign of the strength of the american system because in spite of all the pressures for him to make. from the routine as much as possible he gave a real honest report i thought it was also a very interesting window into the american psyche. because i mean to as russians the idea that we could somehow not just influence but put in an american president into the white house it was absolutely unimaginable is the united states really
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still emotionally volatile as it as it come comes across on the cable channels i don't know whether this is a special for america in any quote unquote free country as. emotionally volatile look at this right now i mean. i think what we have experience is something else i think that united states. is on the declining part of the lifecycle curve. all systems born grow a church and. i think united states was at the prime of the 2nd world war 19 fifties when the system is aging. like a human being or any system it starts falling apart. and what is happening in america is that we are getting busy degree in the manifestations of this
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integration is a high peak very emotional feelings in the chrysalis and the left against the right there is the can of course but if you look at the poor many of the trans trungpa exemplifies polarization and economic grievances they were present in the american society long before him for example polarization started growing in the mid and i do why it is polarization political polarization it started really intensifying. almost 3 decades ago in 2000 it was clear that they can all make system was structurally flawed and yet it took another decade for trying to come on stage and to kind of galvanize all that resentment with the system why did it take so long in the lifecycle you cannot predict how long something takes but what we do know and i suggest he's not because of the polarization. he's
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a manifestation of course i have to do and is accelerating it and what i have against is not so much what is doing is what what is the how is it doing is causing for this integration of society and that is very dangerous for america because what america had as an asset there is a set of the america was not the chronology others have it not money that have it not size other have it it was a culture the culture of being american can be german american jewish american polish american russian american and working together with mutual trust or respect that is destroying is drawing the most important asset american that that is destroyed not just by trying by men. i think it's very common for many countries to blame your mistakes of failures on somebody else and for him there is but the whole
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miller probe shows that the liberal liberal establishment says listen we externalize that israel is there with his integrity is not the cause is the one accelerating it look look let me give you something is not in your questions when bush won by a decision of the supreme court. the other guy conceded no problem if trump loses the election next year going to be riots on the streets is not going to go easily it's going to further break down the country but look if he were focusing on trying but i find it a little bit unfair because he won more than teeth years ago and for the last 2 years we had this investigation which. you know centered around absolutely improbable charges and yet it took 2 years for him just to clear his name is he at the end entitle to a little bit of you know grievance and the emotional reaction there isn't that the
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president not to be emotional instability saying i'm probably the miller report on the fairness of the. integrate this is what did he say. it is a shame the. president had to go through this difficult but is making. the breakdown of the society if i are accused of something that you are not guilty and i accuse you for 2 years every day every minute on national television i'm sure you would also feel a little bit of a justification and i'm saying is it truly that gets above it ok now that the miller report the stablished that he is indeed not a russian agent do you think the liberal community. will find it easier accepting that it was the whole last 2060 in the elections that it was that trump indeed is a grassroots american response to their policies over the last couple of years i
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don't think the liberals will accept anything. i mean politics you don't accept because important because it's a losing relationship now i just came across an interesting american poll by usa today which suggested that over 50 percent of americans agree with trying statement that miller was if we chant and i think it's an interesting number because it's much larger than his core base which to me suggests that even those who dislike him a tired and fatigued by this constant drama do you think that's right conclusion do you think the americans are ready they're merican public now that american political class the american public is ready to. i think the american public is continues fighting from the left and right and. back and forth using the democrats over. the democrats accusing him of being
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corrupt. people. it's not only in america over the world democratic systems people in the politicians period they're looking for somebody to be a leader who's not a politician and that's what's happened. another politician that's where they're electing people that they're not politicians that they want that they're coming and there's danger too because you don't know what you're buying you said in one interview that the success of any system is determined by how little is wasted on internal fighting backstabbing and by that measure the united states is clearly more dysfunctional than a member of the question is can you walk back from that degree of polarization and party partisanship. i don't think so because. the political power political. doesn't exist and so much polarized that i don't i don't see who is going to be able to unite it to make the change who
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the change is much more structural. i think it's much bigger than what we see because we live in a society today where materialistic goals model can only grow one economy growth is causing the destruction of the environment. i'm claiming that i was stunned that the living are going up or quality of life is going down. for some yes for others. i'm not quite sure but i agree that the american model economic model is based not up to a large degree on over consumption so whatever trying to talk about that to change that to change the society of quality of life. and to change. not the competitive environment but. you're talking about the major change which i don't see happening. from what i read that level of political polarization was also present after the vietnam war and yet both parties in the united states found
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enough strength in themselves to move towards bipartisanship partially because they had the soviet union as a call common enemy and it was only after the soviet collapse in the mid ninety's that the rates of polarization started growing up invariably do you think the united states can be united without an external threat. i think it will be because united even was an external threat no but seriously how it wouldn't go it was that honor because i think you have to understand 2 things which i don't think that russians understand. first the world most of the americas don't know the difference between soviet union and russia for them russia so that you know that that is simplified most of america's never left america never traveled outside the home that they don't know and that is one of the calls that russia is considered to be an enemy although if you come to russia the market ever spoke market there the
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private privately what is it always make english reread american communism but evan it does not know that the celt of united states they don't know russia is soviet union so that you know it's going to them by the finish and then i mean the next thing is that we have to understand then i'd say that eisenhower said that he called him very bad names it's called the industrial military complex they invest in military complex needs to have and me to be able to get budgets to build their own place to be there at a moments and they're dominating they need they need to have an enemy and not americans for them so the industrial military complex they spend an agenda standard correctly that you believe that regardless of whatever findings. they relationship between our military complex is that i think foreign policy because the real enemy
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for me is not russia and china but china is a big market big market we will make a deal because it's the business is driving the decision like that well mr jesus we have to take a short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments. most people think to stand out in this business you need to be the 1st one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand out on the lose business you just need to ask the right questions and demand the right answer.
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question. this is a story about what happens austria stray bullets kills a young girl in the streets. what happens to her family daughters i'm sure the mother daughter is there isn't a cemetery it really messes with your head what happens to the community the public was screaming for a scapegoat the police needed a scapegoat so why not choose a 19 year old black kid with a criminal record who better to pin this on than him and what happens of course the . shock shock as far. as i do. we don't know still just for the. end of this unfortunately. we still love no kill just.
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welcome back to worlds apart from a cock at these as a best selling author and management consultant. says just before the break we were talking about the crisis of american democracy and i remember that a few years back people like to talk about the in the visible hand of the market that all who had us to the global financial crisis back in 2008 do you think that maybe this idea that democracy has self correcting property also needs to be reconsidered because generally speaking when american politicians talk about democracy they presume that because you have a diversity of opinions those differences you know the system may be slow but
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ultimately it will produce the best result now it seems to. totally paralyzed by partisanship i think the idea of the hidden and. the market correct itself is already discredited nobody believes in it anymore because the market thinks it time to correct itself by the time the changes so big there is another change the design of the change i think that the hidden hand today is very clear with the hand this is called government the government involvement in the economy so visible that now the whole question about freemium market economy has been a question mark with it really is what democracy the same thing is it's not so of course acting itself anymore but it's not self correcting itself in the united states and in the u.k. which is another major western democracy which is paralyzed by partisanship but in other countries in other western countries i think it's working pretty well. in germany for example in the nordic states it's still functioning pretty well i mean
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they have their disagreements but they have a functioning state they can still do some sort of policy my question to you is whether there is something special about the united states and the u.k. maybe their historic trajectory there and the standing of democracy that led them to to the point when they are unable to govern their rate of change is accelerating it's not just accelerated too many problems coming one of them is sold to becoming more. it's multidisciplinary so changes in technology have an immediate response impact on the economy and economies social activities of the legal legal and political it's or be very complex who is going to solve it it needs something that can be about the discipline is the soul of them and it's a government and the government is paralyzed it's a big bureaucracy and who is making the laws you know the making more and more laws
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so what's happening is they believe by a legal environment they can regulate but it's becoming more and more think more and more part of life that's what's causing what we really need is to learn how to decentralize self governing bodies not governed by the center because the center this panel is in everything now i know that you and other big fan of donald trump but since he's having such a big day today there is a sense to be a lot of celebration in the white house let me ask you how would you handle this major victory that he just got a report and bloomberg described. the publication of that report as as a major achievement of his presidency so far i'll go on the program is a lot of what he does. have a program with how it does it but nobody's perfect i mean. still a very on the one front he is failing on another kind of people are more imperfect than others so that's also true i'm i'm i'm worried because is this throwing in my
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judgment the major asset of america which is its culture would we do changes from president to president as long as you don't destroy the platform base there you know that the platform still delivering for the americans wasn't that the reason why he got elected in the 1st place because from. bush to obama one of comes to the you know ordinary americans they they they. you know the question is why he was elected you know that's a different question i was one of the alluding to jim a previous answer to that as the problems are becoming more and more complex people are looking for big papa was going to say let the story for you. and he comes across as very self-confident i called him seldom right but never a doubt you know he is he knows everything and some people who are simple minded
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and there are a lot of simple minded people in the world they love that they feel confident the american economy is growing isn't that what ultimately mount matters he's capable of delivering i mean he delivered on some of his campaign and what expense. is destroying the environment be pulled out of the control of the environment is pulling out the protection of the workers at the work at the workplace he is making in making make a lot of money but at what price to society we will see in one of your articles your fraud that he is going to be reckless he will skirt the law he will violate the constitution i'm sure of that didn't the miller reports prove you're wrong because not only they found him free on not only they cleared him of the collision charges but they also did not find him guilty of the obstruction of justice is trying to push the envelope and see how far it goes he doesn't accept the end of the law he doesn't accept me that personality type which i recognize from
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executives that they know and he was an executive before they don't accept boundaries always try to push the boundaries to see what the limit is so only question is when is he going to look. every week he has another crisis the war of the world china of the china russia of the russia the guy doesn't stop he likes to say i called him an incendiary you know is that he. likes to start files all the time i don't. reports exonerates him at all he just survived one. they're going to be more but don't you think that he is reelection in 2020 is a little bit more likely a day than it was last week yes because they don't have a good competitor they don't even by then there isn't then or gee trample it in for breakfast a very small body on the other side that can stand up to him because he also lies
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and capable of saying things which have no basis whatsoever in reality but he says it is such a confident voice that the people people accept it now you're loaded to that you have your own classification of letter ship and you're described as the beak eat where he stands for interpreting earth an arsonist or arsonists started fires all the time what does it mean in broader terms the personality of what they call a big he is very creative and in like 2 takes risks he likes energy like the excitement. and is very self-confident to the point issue around himself that different words in different languages people clap hands if you don't clap that's your fire and people don't challenge you look how many people resign from the white house how many people can work with him you can only work
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with him it's called yes yes. and you lasted that way and because of that because the legs excitement is legs and this look is all the time going is still running for reelection for they go to lengths that is going to bring still big meetings and new lows because he always talks about how many people were in the crowd big guys. but that's in itself is not the disqualification of a president i mean there is nothing in the american founding documents that preclude. as long as it's controlled it's good to have an engine i just wrote a letter open letter to lopez obrador the new president of mexico who is a left leftist trump tremendous 3 other than 16 priorities blah blah. no holding back no. no it's like a car with a stronger engine. but no brakes that's what i'm afraid of i'm afraid
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of stump no brakes we began this conversation by you stressing the strength of the american institutions americans usually pride themselves on having a situations that serve not the political leadership but actually the country can they still take that for granted especially again in the aftermath of the investigating the intelligence community to be free of. all these guys. of the old institutions because of the breaks and they don't like breaks around went of the central bank he went after the of the he didn't go off to the central bank he was frustrated and here fired off a couple of tweets but that's not the closing of the central bank i mean. you are very forgiving. as a president you have to move when to speak and when not to speak i'm claiming they
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hung in the hierarchy this morning should be the most and the biggest should be is he is big mouth and small this is not good mr jesus i'm not by any means defending trump what i'm trying to ask is that sometimes when you have such a polarizing personality people may think that subverting the normal procedure is justified you know and i think that's a particular quality on the left i mean i think there are many studies academic studies. that show that people on the left are particularly intolerant of. in a political difference and they they may be more prone to defending the system and violating the law in the process don't you think that the american institutions for example the american intelligence have been subverted by the by their own efforts you protect america from trump. but you know we don't have enough evidence he's accusing everybody. is like. you're stalin if you're not for
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me you're against me but come on stalin killed people in the. city the personalities that you're either for me or against me the danger is that he's not saying it's ok to disagree with me let's have a dialogue what do you disagree about what they can learn from disagreement that's not his style not only him all these people that have the personality style as they say the very convincing in their own legend in their own opinion seldom right but never in doubt and that's one of the difficulties when you go up to. the middle east and the sick and the secretary of justice and the central bank and. who who is left that is not that's not held the is absolutely the regime of the medical society that's my problem how do you
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thing it all i don't want to say and what do you think it will all lead to what kind of flattish style will be americans looking towards after trying to leave the scene whether it's in 2020 or 2024 this is in the very difficult to predict but this is going to be reelected be reelected it to 20 i believe and if it doesn't get reelected we're going to have riots going to be a difficult time in american to 20. 22 and because i'm not going to accept it he's not the type to walk in lose he's not a loser he says i will accept the vote as long as they win the world i will accept the vote. which means if i don't win of the vote well mr jesus we had a little like that boris yeltsin i mean who opened fire at the parliament with almost 200 people killed and the american president bill clinton called him the next day and said nothing about you know the victims and so forth that him next
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presidential election so i mean the real russians know how it feels but we also know that sometimes it's good to have what americans call humble piety the humble pie dissing them need that moment of humility when they are humiliated by their own little ship and. by the leadership i think we need a leader that integrates us obama was such but the totally good discredited trump was and this was his opposite personality total wasn't he also discredited by his own policies for example he's been intervention and they should. know the whole country meaning that he. made a mistake no question about it but that's mistake is much bigger than anything trump has done we'll see. we'll see i think we will need that don't think we are going to get it because look. this system calls for these leaders. when
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the company is when the system is. the leader leads the people when the system is the people lead the leaders this. they say this is the leader it deserves because we are here we're going to elect the next guy going to break this down for them well this is not a very inspiring note but we have to leave it there really appreciate. you as well let's hope for the best thank you thank you very much for your time. i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and up this here again same place same time here in a while the party. is
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donald trump's national security advisor john bolton a clear and present danger to america and the world is saber rattling in the middle east particularly against iran should concern us all we are forced to ask a fundamental question is bolton the primary architect of trumps policy. those who can very well known case that was stolen in 69 in. his sleep very important painting and somebody from the mafia just said a few years ago dead today has stolen and stored it in
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