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retaliate against nature back to war we speak to one of the negotiators and leave back to. violated by donald trump and. as westminster debates war crimes immunity the director of the new film quite graves on a british intelligence plot for a massacre at a catholic primary school bus are the headlines we reveal the weapons have been stuck in an italian dock on the whistleblower stuck in an american dock dollars more coming up in today's going underground but 1st straight to evidence of britain last year violating article 2 of the u.n. charter the attack started at about 2 o'clock this morning u.k. time targeting 3 sites a base outside damascus thought to be involved in the production of chemical and biological weapons and 2 sites near homes a command bunker and a chemical weapons stockpile except of course syria denied ever having chemical
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weapons the media along with m.p.'s from both main parties in the supported bombing the s.n.p. liberal democrats implied comrie were opposed to m.p.'s from the new change you k. party supported bombing the greens wanted defacto economic warfare and a crackdown on russia but what if there was no syrian chemical weapons attack what if it was a fabrication as catastrophic as that by tony blair and iraq u.k. journalists arguably have short memories and didn't question more here is one suggesting that the labor m.p. support for war was a leadership bid to presumably because war is popular now democracy at the moment over this issue is certain it's far as the labor party is concerned he's a complete shambles as i suggested to the labor party leader do you still genuinely have total confidence in him and in the end is all this about nursing your own leadership positions it certainly is not that and i do have total confidence in jeremy and i fundamentally disagree with what you've just said about the labor party because jeremy decided i would. well commit that we would have
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a free vote why did you do that takes strength and courage is a median oh yes that was a labor m.p. selling war on syria and celebrating jeremy corbin's decision to give a free vote and here is the woman whose policy hillary been supported justifying r.a.f. bombing let me set out why we have taken this action. last saturday up to 75 people including young children were killed in a despicable and barbaric attack in duma but was syria responsible for the duma attack just as mainstream journalists didn't cover saturday's israeli your revision bombing of syria they didn't appear to recall this from britain's former ambassador to syria a year before duma. very likely an operational it's well. documented by the united nations. they mounted chlorine gas attack on civilians and they try to make it look like a regime operation mark my word. and it will happen and when
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it arguably did happen britain's former ambassador was told by a u.k. statement dated journalists to move beyond facts let's move let's move on from fenn whether this is fact or no let's let's say evidence has been found to preach the president to sat what's behind this attack well here's some real evidence unclassified o.p.c. w. sensitive do not circulate engineering assessment of 2 cylinders observed at the duma incident the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons is acknowledged that a leaked document published by the working group on syria propaganda media is real it appears to suggest a british fake justification to attack syria today the u.k. stands defeated in syria in the nations that helped defeat britain russia china turkey and iran and now all in the news russia stands accused of killing a british subject on sturgis in a chemical attack even though a source inside the u.k. police just admitted. some of the details don't add up as for china the u.s.
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and google are arguably trying to take down while away turkey is being threatened with u.s. sanctions in iran joining me now from princeton new jersey is ambassador said who say most of you who negotiated the j.c.b. away nuclear deal violated by president all trump ambassador welcome back to going underground well i have to begin with what you thought of the trump warning to iran not to threaten the united states on pain of annihilation of the islamic republic what are you see during president trump i have never seen such conflicting confusing a strategy. from the u.s. side in regard to iran it is very clear from one side president trump. is not in the same page with his key advisors and key decision makers presumably rouhani yourself as an iranian nuclear negotiator who knows read the art of the
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deal but all trump is not exactly this kind of strategy confuse conflict the minds of those he's negotiating with he has himself also does not have a killer year strategy or policy on iran very meek saying signals statements confusing signals the statements from one side he said you know what i need the iranians to call me b.c. to get there they lay there he says you know threatening iran with a war as he said which would be the offer should iran iran wiping your own off the map therefore we are facing a president who to really lead does not know what he wants a multi-role or he does or president rouhani who didn't respond by making that phone call he does know exactly what he wants it's just the iranians and some members of the international community do it. to ask you britain is now threatening
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iran not to pull out of the agreement that you negotiated helped to negotiate to pull out of the nuclear deal in response to president james violation of the deal so what is britain is britain for so i'm sure on the 1st he started to get a $1000000000.00 the british foreign minister should understand fast. the u.k. shewed comp a live in its commitment within the nuclear deal the u.k. has totally fate therefore fair's the leaver your commitments then put a condition between all signatories of iran nuclear deal the us has completely violated we draw from the d y elated that d. while it had united nations security council the europeans including u.k. they have failed to deliver a clear commitments for normal trade and business with iran for 2 years only
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iran has fully complied with every commitment of the nuclear deal therefore europeans before everything before threaten india iran should say why they have not implemented the deed for 2 years why they have not complied with the signature commitments within the nuclear deal before tretton in iran you presumably came under some personal attack as other ring in nuclear negotiators did for the jays e.p.o. a deal regardless of as you say monitor saying that iran is clearly abiding by the terms whereas other powers are not why are you negotiate ing with the united states when as you said the m e k it was a terrorist organization now it's a terrorist ban is lifted here in the european union as well as the us they were allied to john mccain john bolton trumps president lawyer rudy giuliani why why did you trust the united states. at any point negotiation doesn't mean trust
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negotiation is joss a way to resolve the differences not to reach to a complete trust by warning the well clearly there are people who support this tribe does not support your contention that he did a baby the deal and surely now where does it you ation after this tweet after as you say the national security adviser john bolton body what he's been saying i mean aren't all that how many is it that it's an islamic to have nuclear weapons at some point or other you saw what happened to libya when it gave up the nuclear weapons that it actually had or a nuclear program it actually had the iranian government really living is if they don't have a program how can iran possibly defend itself against the united states and who knows who in nato little britain iran has resisted the us pressures sanctions squares rooms economic war political war intelligence war even
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the us joint saddam hussein attacking iran the us attacked the oil infrastructures in persian war iranian oil infrastructures tankers everything but iran has been successful to resist the us for 40 years without a nuclear bomb. one second the u.s. policy has been based on pressures sanctions to weaken iran to ariza lately iran but today the us is facing the reality that iran if not the most powerful stable country in the region is one of the most powerful influential stable countries in the region therefore iran has achieved all these faith out to clear bomb that's why iran i believe would be able to continue with the same capacity and policy and the strategy well there's a massive show of strength by the united states right now in the persian gulf and
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headed to the persian gulf when you were negotiating the iranian nuclear deal presumably you were balancing to what extent of the negotiations would most because they were beijing's a little in washington do you think moscow and beijing need to learn the lessons of being too quiet about support for international law the lessons of the libya war when it comes to this current violation of the agreement you helped negotiate between iran and the people as if i was well you know i think compared to other 5 plus one members russia and china they have been more sincere for implementing the europeans politically they are supporting the deal like russia and china but they have failures in compliance in practical terms i believe russia and china they have been really more sincere and transparent on implementing the deal
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in practical steps however still we have failures from russia and china for full compliance the details and conditions of the nuclear deal however it is good no international community to ward public opinion they can really understand. for the 1st time between iran and the us and the war powers there was an awful leg remained on one of the most disputed issues iran nuclear program and it agreed iran fully complied fully believe and the us europeans specifically and in general all 5 powers they have failed to deliver their commitments therefore for international community now it is clear iran which accepted transparency measures more than every any other country is not after nuclear bomb however if president trump is going to kill the nuclear deal in order to reach an order deal or in order to capital it
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iran or to bring regime change in iran or to to to have a broader package of the negotiation and deal with iran i don't believe such a strategy president from conflicting strategy bullinger strategy. strategy president trump is following at the current currently i don't believe iranians would ever be ready to negotiate with such administration except if presidents from changes it is a strategy comply with the nuclear deal as approved by united nations security council and then respect iran. respect the principles of mutual respect and non interference then i believe there will be a chance numbers or thank you after the road by you case soldiers to have war crimes immunity from ulster to iraq as politicians this week debate we investigate
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an alleged british intelligence plot for a massacre at a catholic primary school and from the headlines colors trying to the caribbean and an atomic coffin in the central pacific all the ball going over but you have gone underground. part chime in the u.s. in training endgame the battle lines have been drawn and demands made in this trade war it appears full size are preparing for the long haul what does it mean to win a trade war what does it mean to lose and how far could those. troops seemed wrong. but old rules just don't. mean you get to shape out these days to come out ahead and in the game because the trail.
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when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back joins me now to go do something week's top stories is full of shadows secular state for northern ireland for nearly a decade then be lembit welcome back i know you do a show on a rival channel press t.v. banned in this country is it true the u.s. is abraham lincoln is going to the persian gulf to attack your show maybe not actually my show but it's quite flattering to think that not just iranians but americans might be watching it. while we're under attack limbo because under attack
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there's a good a much more serious issue of what's happening in the middle east along with iran and this with the morning still there money so interesting story this time in dock strike blocks of deadly cargo headed for saudi arabia top line here saudi arabia is buying tons of armaments from people like us the united kingdom good export pienaar of ginning worth billions to us. so we've been doing that and saudi arabia has been using these weapons to attack the not very wealthy neighbor called yemen one of the poorest countries in the world the dock strikers they have had enough of this so they've actually stopped a consignment from getting out from italy to go to saudi arabia so it's slightly successful at least got to the morningstar at least italian dock strikers are actually doing something about the exports of weapons to help the situation mitigate against a situation where dens of millions of people are under threat arguably you have a nuclear story here in popular mechanics it's a technical story with a huge political implication a problem a kind of expenses the u.s.
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is aging nuclear cough and is an ecological disaster waiting to happen now the reason it's turned up here is because it hasn't done anything wrong at the picture you see there is as a result of a rather careless task that they did it was called council bravo it was meant to yield. a certain amount of megatons but it actually exploded through twice the amount of megatons 15000000 tons of t.n.t. so that's a 1000 times stronger america isn't legally obliged to clean up any mess but that thing could be cracking that's why popular comics fun is the u.s. is north not the only maghreb to get it blow up islands in the pacific legally they don't have to clean up on this if a big storm comes and wrecks it or rising sea levels wrecks it america's going to be in a lot of bad political trouble because you're going to get radioactive waste it's looking into the sea will it but not the little people who live there the marshall islands are really poor americans could even make the gamble if the marshall
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islands in america ended up in a court american money at it now into another island in the western hemisphere though in haiti from the nations of the caribbean nation time says dozens brutally killed raped and haiti massacre police say even young children were not spared as a part of port au prince which is a form of collaborations their big mass a lot of it's a slum and it looks like carrying warfare turf wars there have led to the most appalling and it is this one of the richest country in the world haiti in the 18th century colonialism and so on and obama and joe biden when he was vice president hillary clinton they prevented the popular leader teed from coming to this country to have so his supporters need to support you know why he rose that he might have actually asked us to give all that wealth back when we took it away when we left that's the thing we didn't leave much for the haitians what we've now got
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is a lawless place with children as young as 4 being raped with women being raped and burned i mean from wiki leaks we know that the obama administration was trying to stop the the real leader allegedly of his country. it's just needed why they were doing that as well because you could argue that x. made more trouble for themselves by messing with a democracy everybody that knows this happened maybe we don't know that so much and you can have both a few days i mean obviously the united states european union traitor of the venezuela that even if there are reports of mercenaries trying to kill protesters in haiti the nickname the lesion of haiti what exactly is going on as regards e.u. and the us policy and why we know to be told it's the usual thing they haven't got anything that we need anything they have that we've got it we brought back on the left again one of the great just journals websites the intercept in mint press
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yes now this is back to the future in a sense you remember today in the songs you know julian assange spoke of a rerun of that another whistleblower bites the dust as the instep odds a 3rd not to its barren invalid nor to its burman belt it's a good line in the intercept is viewed by the un as all around the world is thought of as a progressive publication exposing those in power that's a problem it exposes people in power and you know what they've got they've got power so daniel hale who is the person who could be going behind bars potentially the same as genocide want to get to share a cell with 9 years yes they say we're going to give him 10 years for a series of different crimes that they are alleging which adds up to 50 john kiriakou former cia whistleblower goes went to jail says serious question for the interceptor which is a e-bay backs the money for his says do you secretly work for the f.b.i. . david hale reality winner and terry will be our all in prison because of you is
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it incompetence or are you compromised the fact is nobody really knows who's working for who here we know that hale was being paid by the state so it's undeniable he's had some kind of said you know what they're going to say the jeremy scahill exposed to the drone war and and glenn greenwald who old who has refused to come on this. that these people want to support a power final against the bow and i think that's i think you're right about that it would be the one thing i learned when i was an m.p. is any complicated plan is going to fail because theory is far more effective than conspiracy theory lebed a big bag you. this week the u.k. parliament debated whether to give british soldiers immunity from prosecution for crimes in the north violent but with a new film exposing alleged british government involvement in a plan for a massacre at a catholic primary school is the government initiative about concealment inclusion rather than justice joining me now is sean mari director of the new film quite
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grave thanks so much for coming on before we even get to the amazing villeneuve made your response to labor and tory defense officials some rowing back from labor appearing to promote immunity for u.k. soldiers for alleged war crimes this is this is the army there always has been i mean there's always been an almost a so where we called from the north of ireland and mix that a lot there's never been a single prosecution or a single sentence that's been served by a british soldier in the conflict so we have no confidence anywhere whether it will happen are not of course that there will be only a british soldier that will hold a conference and that does require the 10 year amnesty or statute of limitations being discussed at the moment right now in parliament would mean in your film on quiet graves they'd all go school free for the $120.00 deaths in the triangle you depict $120.00 plus the that we don't know but and with just this series of killings they plan on going but the court records are almost a. there's a broad consensus for the nytol as a that there should be no mistake that prosecutions should be taken against whoever
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was involved in any criminal mortars during the conflict whether that's still actors or non-state actors ok well the deal be got to raise a way in to. just go through what happened in beliefs in county durham or what you've discovered about. catholic primary school and ironically have it was the. military wing that may have saved the school children what happened in january about the contacts to it so well how it wasn't for the january 976 the it was 2 attacks on 2 catholic households and they tried the way by the 2 families so you had the revie family and wade cross and come to your ma and you'd also be lonely and there was 3 brothers killed and not attack and also when you died family was 3 members the only old souls that was 6 catholics it was killed in one night and want you to hug and this is their mommy god in the film this is what we build up to is the next night you had 10 protestant work men killed in kings mill it was
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attacked by our a members and kings mon i were going to be whether they are a saxon that kellen or not but it was our a members that were involved in the killing of those innocent protestants and what happened to that after not sorry was that the plan ongoing for the next act and this was military intelligence what they wanted to do was create something so serious that it would spill into civil war where they could have a globe as off approach to the area a conventional war against the outer it was a very very frustrating that the successful area attacks of the pain particularly in this area so far ma they wanted to go in the ground and going to go in the catholic primary school and kill all the primary school children the school and their teachers know there is a must strategy here as you say involving british involvement at the top. the the british soldier kitson responsible for the moment in kenya catastrophe
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just go through whatever you explain in the film these phrases poisoning the water and the inability to catch fish well the classic counterinsurgency strategy and the architect of course was frank was to do when it was it was. he was the architect of what happened and can you with also with that we can relate back to malaya and what it was was to go into these communities so we take the north of ireland for example is the $1.00 said to say what you think would benefit you more and use the death squads counterinsurgency squads to target the other community and this is what happened in the north of ireland we had rate wing death squads loyalist paramilitaries which attacked and us and catholics to remove support from the arab but of course balance begets violence this doesn't happen and it wouldn't happen in any conflict you have people then running into the arms of the iraqi because all these people are not people connected to the ira that the british security operators are murdering in the hope that they will somehow lose
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favor the i would lose favor gordon brown the former prime minister said a few years ago that the trouble should be compared to the fight against al qaida and what it would do you think you have british politicians talk about the troubles in that context because it goes labor and conservative bodies supported rendition. torture illegal war obviously in control which is for internment that we go back in this country and of the 911 i think. and many ways i would have to agree with gordon brown i don't like when when when the conflict in our under the struggle in ireland is. is someone came to the ward al-qaeda but i agree with one thing that they learned an awful lot about the torture act haven't. the activities of what on the north of ireland and they were able to continue to was a continuation of that of what happened then on afghanistan and iraq what are the
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irish government hiding it was just last week that we had the 45th anniversary of the double in one of the bombs where a 300 were injured and 33 dead initially reports were saying the ira very little reporting to this day anything about the dublin monaghan brooms why where is the overhead because using to release secret files on those bombs well the american t r k which is a professor case that was carried out in 2004 still not been released this was challenged by justice for the forgotten which is an advocacy group for the double i'm on board here in your film which feature in the film and they lost that court appeal against the government what do you think their government is but i'm losing when there is. an important point i think that the families of the men of the want to muddy the waters because the real information lags with the british government and they are currently taking a kiss against the british government and the high court in belfast and i think that will galvanize than what happens with the irish government so it's an
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important point to make actually. the u.v.'s ended up. claiming responsibility for that bomb but do you think there's any way that we'll find out what happened all i can do as a filmmaker is continue to be an advocacy for the victims and survivors and try to the truth but there's not much public confidence in the british government ever ever releasing those documents better still i know that there are some documents have been used in my felony which have been redacted since i've seen them and garden so they're continuing style to you too since the film they were exactly the sources saying those documents some of the more want to watch the films actually believe but your next film is going to be about the government says david kelley who told the famous source who said that the iraq war was justified in a pack of lies. that's going to allow them to cubans do that and release of course well you know we i think we're pretty confident about the the details that
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have been released on dr kelly's death are very very suspicious so i want to go into too much about the following because obviously it's very very sensitive but i think there are other issues that are that need to be dealt with and need to be i know that within the felt shomari thank you thank you and that's it for the show on what races out online platforms from the 1st of june when we're back on saturday covering the i and bricks with the national general sector of india's ruling party represent the hundreds of millions in the biggest voting history until then he was not special media. what politicians do so. he put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected.
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