and across the world we asked her. a director of security cooperation for the military office of china's national defense ministry. the temperature is rising in the pacific where american naval supremacy is being challenged by china's fleet as territorial disputes threaten to escalate into full confrontation off the chinese coast will the great drive was. there into an arms race parallel to the current trade war and might regional militarization endangered decades of peace in southeast asia and. conflicts between beijing and washington be avoided. scenario no as you go well come to the show it's really great to have you with us. so according to. this spokesperson for the national people's congress china's growing military spending is necessary to ensure the country's security does this mean that china is facing security threats today and if so who or which

country. such a threat. sophie said he's right china won't take any country as a threat but china does have a threat because china is still a country that is not really unified and china does have a land border dispute with. one and 2 countries and china also have time to speak use with some countries besides since the world has changed. is faced with was way cold nontraditional threats which is a common threat to all people therefore we have to spend more money on the military spending but having said that the traditional speaking we would cut the money into 3 potions one for personnel one for equipment and a while for training now because of china's ever growing overseas interest and it's increasing international responsibility will have the new missions therefore we

have to expend isha having said that. we still would conclude that logically that china's rise has been so peaceful so in the last 40 years china's rise has been peaceful this is recognised by the world so i know we have managed our best to keep our ministry at a low level which is always a slight to 1.5 percent so you have you have mentioned expenditure and it's true that the worldwide stefanski banding is growing 2 and china is 2nd only to the united states and you spend more and more money every year so if i may i would like to ask you a question in more narrow sense would you say that the arms race is a debtor and against an all out conflict with another major power. well i hope not but. first of all off the cold war we do not have made just threats around the

world for example and more than 20 navies come by team piracy the gulf of aden that shows actually there was no major threat from another point of view but as sam time we do have some inconvenient a situation or difficult time in that for example the united states has of taken china and russia as a primary competitor is this was a release the. 2 major documents one is a security strategy another defense strategy so therefore we are i believe we have entered a new situation where people feel more nervous about comparable situation so the shock i call peroration organization is going to hold major anti-terrorism drills this error would that be fair to say that this trail is how to create a russian chinese military or alliance. i don't think so because i'm

happy you mention about shanghai cooperation organization actually in a chart of shanghai cooperation organization is made quite clear that this kind of cooperation is not a directed against any party is china russia doing joy very good relationship with fishley was described as a comprehensive a strategic partnership of condemnation and as well reflected in either the exercises with shanghai cooperation organization or even by natural exercises over years we have a saying the exercise is expanding i think in terms of subjects or in terms of scope with faraday the un they made it to reigning in the body to see the south china sea and the sea of japan which really reflect the good relationship between the 2 countries so one of the latest pentagon reports refers to china's military forces as the quote china's military threat does be jean perceive this

report as a provocation what is the united states trying to achieve here. well that is a good question sophie because we are wondering why the u.s. would to take china as a 1st or revisit a country and then as a primary competitor if you look at the china policy we would conclude the launch claims that the chinese policy has been fairly consistent. the united states the rest of the world i think this question is good but the should be a good question for america to answer because my question is the united states doesn't seem to be as confident as before because of the relative decline in the. last decades because by the end of the 2nd world war americans g.d.

. the world is 50 percent nowadays is only 1515 percent and it will further reduce therefore the united states taking china as a strategic competitor is not a reorientation but i believe it's a loss of direction driven by. agony this should not be the case because china always asking for a relationship of no confrontation and a low conflict my best hope for this relationship however sophisticated is that if this is a manageable relationship let's look at the south china sea where the u.s. navy would conduct a so-called fun up or operation regularly and yes both the chinese military and the u.s. military's do not want conflicts but is a question is could always a tactical arrangements as a rule of behavior. counter to see and be able to prevent accidents

from happening again so the kernel it for us to avoid accidents or incidents it's good that you mention south china sea sorry for interrupting because starting from 2014 china has been building artificial islands in the south china sea and according to your foreign ministry spokeswoman who actually in china has the right to deployed military bases on these islands over security concerns you know the states and other regional powers are accusing china of militarizing south china sea is chrism justify didn't why are you doing this. first of all these are not justified by talk because we do not consider to be artificial islands and we do not consider what we're doing. kind of me to her position on the other hand the regularized the fun of all ration in the south china sea and the violation of

the. americans own positions as they would not take sides and they do not have a position on the sovereignty of south china sea to be a kind of a b. to rise ation china is not the 1st country to claim land in the south china sea and china is not of the 1st country to give the proly weapons. is to fold necessary defense this is our land and we've got to defend them so china's military has been on high alert to us missile destroyer sails near china's artificial islands in the south china sea united states say the operation was just a freedom of navigation patrol but beijing says it as a violation of china's sovereignty and stability in the region. why is that where they thought. well in china in the united states certainly have a different opinions regarding this kind of operations they use a u.s. believes that they are challenging china's the so-called excessive claims in the

south china sea why china believes that china is defending its sovereign rights so we are. not talking about the same saying in different lights i personally. delegations that itoshi sion. american counterparts on this very important issue what i can say is that. this very core concept though you and conversational lova see that is freed of navigation both china and the united states agree to it but is it disagree as to what he did means because china has a 99 hate has actually issued a domestic law. saying foreign ships freedom navigation overflight in chinese water so long as they are you line with china's national law and international law so we think about this over 20 years ago china actually had

to put a this very important concept in china's the mystical law so we are not against freedom of navigation we are against abuse of a freedom navigation for other purposes. another important topic is that us have pulled out of the i.m.f. to one president trump offer to replace it with another agreement that would include china and other countries to china's foreign ministry spokesman once again has already excluded any possibility of china being part of an extended version of i n f but if we talk about a brand new arms control deal not enough something new would china joining if yes then on what conditions well the 1st question is a water kind of the new. control treaty because people have been talking about it for a while but nobody. has made it very clear as to what kind of

a treaty it won't be my 1st is a question why would a us a poor out from i.n.f. treaty a talk because this definitely. european countries. america . asia pacific and the us is the strongest power in the wote i mean us the the only country that has used nuclear weapons in the history so. the impression is that the us looks like a victim but how kind us be a victim being the stronger contrary with the largest nuclear arsenal as far as the chinese ass attitude is because china has made it clear that china won't join any negotiation over nuclear disarmament this is folk would reason because allah nuclear weapons cannot be compared to the. us or russia in terms of

quality or quantity and a we 1st country was owning contrary to no 1st use of nuclear weapons or use of nuclear weapons against a nuclear free country is all region so therefore we do not believe that or we should have such a role in such a havel said he called scenario all right colonel we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to her discussing china's military relations with the rest of the world stay with us.

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instantaneous death. and where bad what siniora colonels you both talking about china's military strategy colonel china is believed to hold the keys to denuclearization of north korea is that so and if yes what concrete steps is china taking to push north korea's nuclear ization forward. i don't think china holds a key to the new correlation in the korean peninsula i believe the director. that is the us. have the case because everybody knows that china

has made. as to what denuclearization on a korean peninsula china is a country is that has actually proposed the 6 party talks and china always chaired the 6 party talks and china has put forward. i believe a good proposal of a suspension for suspension or freeze for freeze if you look at is the current situation or the factors that. actually he has talked to can join them by naturally don't you believe that this is very much on or is a realisation of china's proposal because china proposed that to the united states suspend its exercises then they might be willing to have a moratorium and this happened so we also encourage them to talk about naturally and this has happened so china does have a great row in the denuclearization but china

would. also continue in this regard about china doesn't have such a key in china so the general thinking is that it's nuclear weapons for insurance against a regime change if china ready to guarantee north korea's international security. china cannot guarantee north korea about the security i believe the security of the north korea is even hand over the people of the d.p. r. k. because it is the in the only interest to denuclearize to have. a secure and a safe korean peninsula because having all this nuclear weapons the may be useful media terribly but how about economic development and how about the stress to the whole region including the neighboring countries so nuclear weapons

now days are not is that really useful. this is my opinion so they should not take hold of nuclear weapons rather they would continue but natural talks with the united states to seek a final solution as far as solution is concerned that china has a propose to start from something easy and simple and then consolidate the results have every stage and eventually hopefully they can find a solution. i want talk about another neighbor of yours china and south korea are at loggerheads over their thought anti-ballistic missile system what china says is a threat to the regional security balance now beijing has many times asked to remove the system but was refused can this leap to a wider rift between south korea and china. well we don't believe. such a system issue to be deployed at all because 1st of all it is not to use force

secondly it is harmful to the interest of other countries let me talk about a 1st point of assad says the sas system not being useful because a korean peninsula is just about 1100 kilometers in terms of lens and does a so-called threat from. to the south is actually to come the from the fire . cannons and hope is a shows because d.p. r. k. has a certain time again to so for example into a c. o. fire so know if missile defense system can shield of the shower of conventional a weapon shows so there is that is why we believe such kind of system was only in 2 batteries would not be useful and 2nd to what if it is not useful why would you deploy it do you have some other purposes do you want to look deep into other

countries territory defined as a military activities do you want to intercept the missiles launched by other countries during test or even in a real situation so we do not abide such if siri that assad a system is for self-defense. so the chinese fleet is getting more active then counter paris the operations near the gulf of aden and the indian ocean demonstrating the cap abilities of a potential blue water navy now us blue water navy as one of key pillars of america's power protect projection across the globe china planning to eventually develop the same capacity. absolutely yes because. we are not shy to talk about our ambition to turn chinese navy into a blue water navy actually we have built it clear that by mid century

they will be developed fully into a world class military that of course would include 1st the class the chinese navy . where. zia well actually i was thinking maybe 5 years 100 years ago during mean dynasty china did have a blue water navy so this is the 2nd time that the world building ourselves into a blue water navy and a kind of parity in the gulf of aden is certainly a big boost in that regard because ever since then we have been sending. our stopped to the gulf of aden we make sure that each time we always have a story to 4 ships compare compare with other countries for a single country to send us 3 or 4 ships that it definitely is a large task force compare to say of meth or us land or ocean shield of nato but are we like russia independent deploys in the gulf of

aden. so it china's ministry of foreign affairs has more than once were fair to taiwan as one of the most sensitive issues in a bilateral china united states relations now the chinese government has protested against us selling weapons to the island of thailand on multiple occasions what is the ultimate goal the united states is pursuing by continuing to make passes at taiwan what's your take. well certainly the good question because china's repeated protests. by the united states to taiwan always fall on a deaf ear but the point is. what is a real use. to taiwan. the men in the china is becoming stronger and stronger no matter how many weapons to taiwan with by their would not to be useful. what

was the scenario i believe was a taiwanese. is not to really buy weapons they're trying to buy you sure it's are you sure is that it could be filled with american blood are you sure it's not a could not to really guard he's a safety so what. is the safety of the taiwanese people their safety and security come from good relationship with them and then china that is where the security lie and even economically dependent so heavily upon men and china i know we have extended the good will time and again if you compare the previous. and the current to us r.t. you would find the difference so. and it won't be. across a strait utilizing. the trust of china taiwan. now

at the moscow conference on international security minister of aid said that china is strongly against the taiwan travel act that the united states adopt it is a blatant interference in china's domestic affairs that undermines the peace and stability in the taiwan strait that's a quote what could potentially lead to an open confrontation in the taiwan strait. well. situation across trade is not so favorable and indeed being capitol hill a number of bills passed by the congress by the we have also taken notice that. some of those who were ratified about american president. they are not necessarily implementing it. to date. taiwan issue is a core issue over china's national interest and we've made it

a very clear and very much a resolute to safeguard. because of the mainland china and especially music capability. days grow you know. we are. very much on this issue and i think it's good for the united states to consider what is a pro and what is a core is it important. to make use of taiwan arkansas china made chinese ease of becoming more and more important is such a huge influence of power in the world so what is the purpose of us doing this to china. china and pakistan and other big topic there traditionally and very good relations and vice chairman of the central military commission general john. said that pakistan china military lation is an important

pillar of strategic ties does it mean that china is on pakistan side when it comes to tensions between india and pakistan like the recent ones. no i don't think so and china as you rightly said. is a very good friend of pakistan. but the china doesn't have to choose sides between india and pakistan i'll give you an example china accept both india and pakistan shanghai cooperation organization within the member countries and the china's relationship with india is the land border issue is actually. very good because the way you will have a joint exercise is our kids of terrorism during holidays the soldiers across the border could even be cigarettes so we do not believe this is that black and white picture so we sincerely hope both pakistan and india could have co-existed they

were once one country now they should be brothers. colonel it's been such a pleasure talking to you thank you very much for this insightful interview will wish you all the best of luck but we're talking to. director of security cooperation for the military office of china's national defense ministry discussing china's increasing military strength and its implications for the world that's it for this edition of the next time. the situation in. is still all over the problem in venezuela is not

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