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while going on watching the hawks i am i robot for and today we're going to put dialogue over debate as tablets and i bring you 2 distinct and informative discussions between topics and guess unique to our political viewpoints and personalities starting with my very own perception and perspective now let's start the real. you've got to be a thinker not a stinker or watchers but with the skyrocketing costs of higher education here in the united states and out of control student loan debt spine actually crushing 2 generations the gen xers and the millennial being a thinker just might be too expensive student debt has gotten so bad that this week at morehouse college graduation ceremonies in atlanta georgia billionaire investor robert smith announced a grant to pay off the graduating classes 40. ian in student loan debt and speaking

of golden gifts from on high this week also saw the controversial now former mayor of chicago and neoliberal golden boy rahm emanuel awarded 2 prime time post male role gigs and journalism contributing editor at the atlantic and a.b.c. news contributor because you know rahm has such a long and extensive career in journalism not really so a student loan skyrocketing and rahm emanuel contributing let's introduce our panel for today joining me is author and speaker dee watkins r t america producer brant de boer and host of the world according to jesse former minnesota governor jesse ventura thank you everybody for joining me i want to i want to start with you governor what what does this say about the state of student loan debt in this country when billionaires are shelling out 40000000 just to cover 400 students student debt. unbelievable i didn't think anything could be worse than the actual government debt but this could rally and be right there with it it's scary

you know when i was young i had a decision to make whether i was going to go to school or not a high school i chose to go in the military for the reason that when i got out i would then have the benefit of the g.i. bill and at that time you could actually go to school on the g.i. bill and probably not incur much debt because you already served 4 years but another thing needs to be talked about in this situation and that is this once with the money in the colleges and that and universities when they can spend $90000000.00 for a football coach. that needs to be looked at to within the university and college systems that's a great point to bring up and i'll throw it over to you going to be a brand like i mean one of university can spend $90000000.00 that was clumsily on a head coach for a football program and yet their opponent $40000000.00 a year just morehouse not some and that's just morehouse college you know you know

how ridiculous should be universities be like can dent i mean don't they have enough money to survive at this point that they shouldn't have that student loan $80000000.00 for a football coach but they also don't pay the players and they say they're giving them a free education but you can't really enjoy a free education because you have to practice x. amount of times a day you have to travel with the team you don't really get a chance to have a real college experience out of you know i agree with the governor i think this i think it's crazy at a point i would make the d.s. point on this as well is and remember if you're a student athlete great in high school you get that scholarship you break your leg mid year well guess what the next year you don't have that scholarship anymore so you're not getting that free education they make it straight out of school well and let's also look at those guys guys guys i'm not just talking about the student athlete all that how can the universities have a vacuum of money available divan to pay this like in minnesota i as governor of

the state made 120000 a year i think the governor now makes 150 yet the football coach at the university of minnesota makes 3 and a half 1000000 a year now who has more responsibility the governor or the football coach so we as a society have got to start looking at things and places of higher learning need to start stepping in and looking at things were some common sense thrown in and let me add to what about all this stuff going on with the bribery and that with these parents bribing to get their kids in school doesn't higher education a bear some of that responsibility how did they. peyton accept these bribes and let these kids into school that's a great point and when you look at all crippling student debt and student loans are to this country at this point i mean you're talking 2 generations now you know with 30000 you know on average about 37000 parse student is walking around trying to pay that off the rest of their lives you know. elizabeth warren and bernie sanders of

both many other people on the campaign trail this year for president put out like hey we need student debt forgiveness we need to do all this should we 1st make universities clean up their own accounting if they're willing to splurge all this money but before we start talking about loan forgiveness i'll start with you guys at the table bret and i would say i mean absolutely they need to clean up all of the in-house issues that they have i mean however we do have to look at the fact that we have $1.00 trillion dollars in student debt out there right now i mean millennialist i have seen this happen over and over again and i think since the 2008 recession they've realized that this is a problem going to have to live with over and over again in the debt world and it's also like that $1.00 trillion dollar number is a 10 minute thing it's making people not even want to go to school and then if you do go to school what's going to be waiting for me on that in a big mountain of debt yeah that's a great point that's a really good point just a final. well and look at the fact they have as

a role model the government and how far in debt to the government right now. great point great point i want to i want to move on now to one of our favorite politicians watching the hawks one the one and only rahm emanuel who i mentioned earlier rahm was essentially chased out of the city of chicago for his handling of the little con macdonald case the police shooting case and now after years of being a political insider obama's chief of staff a senior adviser to bill clinton he's now a journalist. i guess the question is this is you know what message is the atlantic and a b c sending other journalists and everyone else when they're giving someone like rahm emanuel someone who left chicago mayor basically was chased out of the mayor of chicago didn't run again because of all the controversy. you as a journalist and writer what what message is the atlantic and a.b.c. sending by hiring him. around. there's

a specially as mayor of chicago. he was really really good at that telling the truth and then he's in there ring a professor where you're supposed to only tell it's sort of so i'm excited this see what's going to happen with his brand new career and i you know it just makes me follow the talented journalists who are out there trying to find work and you know you have these people who are able to disused their big money friends and connections they get these top jobs that people fight years and years and years to get it's a sad thing brant your thoughts on the well i'm going to say a.b.c. has already made their bed and if you remember this but they hired chris christie not exactly a guy known for truth telling not again i known for not be staying out of controversy that i've known for not covering up police shootings and blocking bridges bridge is that over bridges for political expediency so i mean the fact is a.b.c. kind of already has this under control not just i want to ask you because the interesting

thing that comes out of this and we see this more and more what are your thoughts on the rahm and this kind of the i guess what is it the turning door the the round you know spinning doors from from politics right in the media. well they have to in all the other experts that are stepping in now you've got people lifetime cia people you've got all these government people slowly with the takeover of the broadcast media to where they're the ones offering the expertise on everything and they're the ones off from offering the standard story for everything because that's what they come out of remember to everyone here remember this and keep this in mind mainstream media is no longer in the information business there in the entertainment business so maybe rahm emanuel is hell of a guide to have for ratings because that's what they're looking that who can sell and who can make money for them yet if he had he had what to say about jesse small

that then he had to say about the quote. and this is like the actor who plays a what i'm on television versus a kid who really lost his life because the police violence in just a piggyback off of what the governor said you know. you know i saw michael steele who used to be lieutenant lieutenant governor of my home state of maryland on other networks and like i've never saw him make a valid point about anything ever and he has like a 10 year career now well it feels like a lot of the political discussion on network you know cable news networks all that with the you know with bringing these guys like just who are saying smaller cia former state politicians i see the need because they're supposed to bring an expertise level like you would say have a former n.b.a. player on if you are going to. you know but it's just you make a good point brett is in many of these guys now clouding yeah because he's making a great point because there are people i mean they're not like related to network so we see people like larry wilkerson who's a great truth teller who's been in those positions who will call out the establishment maybe see 5 percent of these general cia guys who end up on the

mainstream networks and you only see about 5 percent of them ever actually standing up to what the status quo is they're just giving the same talking points it's like they still work in the pentagon who a lot of those n.b.a. players with commentary actually used to be good at that. and so i mean these people are you know some of these people are really you know at one part of it says something he was a good player to listen somebody is guys now so it is i think it is kind of creating and i think jesse made a really good point there it's more about entertainment than getting you know information out and getting people talking than bringing in new viewers something to chew on. and tyrrell it's also carrying the water for the government's position these are all people that are pro-war they're the people that fight they go to the generals and all that stuff well what do you think they're going to give you for a position they're going to come in and give you the expertise of taking us to war rather than the other way that's very true i want to thank my panel to be. the

watkins. the bore and of course jesse ventura always a pleasure having you guys watching the hawks thank you so much for coming on today thank you my pleasure all right as we go to break quackwatch is don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered on facebook you tube and twitter through our poll shows that are t.v. dot com coming up our own tabitha wallace opened the gallery for discussion with our 3 america correspondents fair amount of and rich of love and they food watching . the tense situation in venezuela is still a little over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been only implement from the inside

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the narrative simply disappeared in there just exactly what is the trumpet ministrations policy regarding the red clearest trail you know. we are to shy to talk about this should move to turn chinese navy into a blue water navy actually we have but it's clear that it by need a century a will be developed hopefully into a world class a military that so closely would even crude less the cause the chinese navy. in the 19th century irish novelist margaret will grow beauty is in the eye of the beholder the same holds true for the news one person's good news is another person's worst nightmare but as with art the most profound moments in life happen

when 2 people see something in completely different ways so let's recognize the beauty behold some truth and step into the gallery. across the globe close to $12000000.00 girls are married every year before the age of 18 these child brides are found in nearly every culture every religion every country including the united states where according to pew research almost 5 out of every 1015 to 17 year olds are married and it's all perfectly legal and fact in the united states 17 states have no minimum age of marriage in 2 states you can get married at age 14 forced. the minimum is $1520.00 states $16.00 and $8.00 states have a minimum age to be married of 17 did you also know that women married before age

18 are a 23 percent greater risk of disease onset of things like heart disease stroke diabetes they are 50 percent more likely to drop out of high school they have a 70 to 80 percent chance of getting divorced and are 3 times more likely to have been beaten by their spouses none of these facts mattered of course to the iowa state house of representatives who voted down a bipartisan bill that would have required a person to be at least 16 years of age to get married and with purse rental and judicial consent idaho house representative brian's only more defended the vote telling the idaho statesman that he does not think courts should be involved in marriage at all i don't believe there should be a license required to get married i think 2 willing people should be able to go and get married well joining me now to be in the gallery to discuss this issue and more are 2 correspondents sara monta soca and rachel bobbins thank you so much for coming here today so tell me here's my 1st question is that there's you know here

in the united states you can't even sign a contract legally it. over the age of 18 so why is the book person can be sort of married off at that age and why it is up to like parents and a judge to decide these are children we're talking about here these are children who like you said don't have certain rights they can't even vote they can't join the military they can't they can dry. until 16 that is but they can get married if the these children don't even have minds made up of their own and and to weed out to look at ok who are they marrying somebody a lot older but it's no wonder why abuse can be very imminent in these cases because when you marry you marry a child off to somebody say that especially because it happens to be more girls or women getting married at this younger. age and marrying 2 males who are dominant in control a lot older so what are we showing society that hey they're 1516 years old and i'm a parent i want to allow my child to get married i mean you can't even make your

own decisions let alone one of the tie down to anybody else acts in a day without your parents' permission before a thing you're going to vote to go to a judge to get what do you think rachel will and it is concerning i think one of the most concerning things to me in all of this is that it is apparent in the judge signing off on this this is not some 14 year old girl who is run away with a much older man and decide to get married this is a parent saying that they're completely fine with this and signing off on it so it does raise a lot of concerns about exactly what those parents are thinking because these children simply aren't mature as that age i know i have a sister who just turned 16 and she still is very much a kid the idea of children that age in younger being able to be married and making a decision that can impact them life long with you know whether they are abused or they're in tough cases or if they're just trying to get out of it if they're trying to get divorced i mean that is a serious commitment that they're simply not mature enough to make especially if

the divorce rate is already very high if you get married young or they say sometimes the divorce rate is a lot higher and think of how different you are when you're 18 versus even 21 alone so you get married at 16 to when you're 30 being with that person for so long i mean it power to you but i'm sure as i'm of these peoples and these poor kids who can't make decisions on their own aren't legally bound to making certain decisions on their own can go and get married i agree with rachel it's really concerning where the parents stand and what's the reasoning that they want to marry children off right before just a letting them go they don't want to take care of them they don't want the financial responsibility i mean there could be a lot of reasons behind this but it's a child it's still a child that should be taken care of by the parents and i think what we're seeing is it's mostly much older men with younger women and as you're saying it's across cultures so it isn't. then you know a lot of people say you know the warren jeffs and the fundamentalist mormon groups that often have young married ok that's one example of how this is abuse because

they can legally say you're married to someone and the law can't do anything about it but you see it and number and number of different cultures and i think it shows what does show that things are working is that the numbers are going down there is consistently going down across the world through the work of empowering women and so i think if we empower women to have that voice and be able to know that you don't have to be married off well especially nowadays women to get married a lot older they get married a lot older sometimes later in life because they want to do so many things before settling down and so as a divorce rates are lower if you wait right so the odds are better taking these rights away from these children these innocent children who don't know any better who may think well this is this is my parents are condoning this so i guess it's the right thing to do usually when they don't do it when i think they're said to we're talking about mostly little girls who are being married to older men this

isn't a situation where it involves a lot of little boys not to so that raises a lot of concerns too and that should make people wonder wait a 2nd why is this just happening with this specific age gap and just with much younger girls and older women and i'm glad you brought up the age gap because there's another story that was in the news this week about age gaps that i that i really really wanted to kind of get your get you guys his thoughts on 1990 supercell a musician moby whose real name is richard melville hall claims that it's recently released memoir then it fell apart that he was in a serious romantic relationship with natalie portman in 1999 of course natalie portman has a slightly different take on the event telling harper's bazaar quote i was surprised to hear that he characterized a very for a short time that i knew him as dating. because my recollection is a much older man being creepy with me when i just had graduated high school he said i was 20 i definitely wasn't i was

a teenager i had just turned 18 we only hung out a handful of times before i realized that this was an older man who was interested in me in a way that sells inappropriate and to make sure everyone knew what a classy laddie truly is moby responded on instagram by posting this picture from the past which i am pretty sure ladies is what you. what you'll have come up if you google creepy older man younger one so he doubled down and tried to say yes we did we dated 1st i want to i want to get us out of the way the thing bothers me about the stories we brought up is this idea of men in their mid thirty's and their thirty's and forty's dating girls who are oftentimes under 25 or in this case like 181920 how that terrain they tend to gravitate toward them and he seems to be one clearly through his book mentions that gravitates toward these younger women is this sort of like i mean how you'd never have a creepy old thirty's when you were like 1819 or like this is not right. and i

think a lot of groups it does if you're just specially if you're in the entertainment industry or you're going journalism but at the same time i think it's all about the intent and the structure that's there and a lot of times these older guys are wanting the younger girls because it fits their ego when they think it makes them feel strong and powerful and that kind of thing and so this definitely seems like that kind of situation where i'm concerned where he's essentially talking about how you know natalie portman said that she liked him as a musician and now all of this and he's trying to figure out a way to date her well it seems like the only thing that he likes about her is that she's younger pretty and she's interested in him and so it doesn't seem like there's much to this potential relationship or any you know intellect there at all between the 2 of them about what a song like from what i read along with the timing of it all to the fact that he's releasing the book and he talked about a few other celebrities and so when he mentioned so who do people know natalie portman well this is marketing for my book and i'm going to go out and say that

only janitor back in the day and you can see by the picture that she looks a little bit uncomfortable i mean. but i don't i think it's also important to note that it's also and but for both males and females nowadays where you know the male also is dating a lot an older woman or older women are dating the younger guys and this is. just the way that this is is condoning what we see celebrities wearing very very my opinion age inappropriate i mean i would i couldn't see myself the person you are if you're 30 if you're 3540 year old woman and your new manager me dating a 20 year old man and what kind of relationship is that what kind of communication i just think that the levels of maturity are so different and at least that's in my opinion how you relate to somebody so young 100 percent and i will say as a woman and her 3rd in. over 30 as

a woman over 30 i have watched like the men my age do not want to date someone their own age they want to date someone younger and younger and younger but i think the strange thing is they don't really get it and there's a maturity kind of lack there and i want to before we run out it's i want to read one quote was another one from that moby actually quoted lama del rey another singer who at the time was about 20 you went on a date with them and he took her to are his penthouse and he claims that she said to him you're a rich wasp from connecticut and you live in a 5 level penthouse you're the man as in stick it to the man as in the person they get teen in the revolution and i think what's really interesting about it is that moby thought that was a compliment and i think that's indicative of the maturity. and it's not a compliment gentlemen when somebody says that i want to really want to thank you guys for setting them and having this conversation with you this week and you know the thing about the difference of ages whether you're. 45 there are some

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