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if of right wing body led by mr mori executives at dimethyl mandate and vision believed to change the dynamic of this energy you see you probably know and probably prime minister modi may know that most nato nation mainstream media claims that your party is racist is islamophobia is he's just said right wing is kweisi fascist and it's bent on a nuclear war with pakistan you see it in that are all completely baseless and malicious allegations are going to start party any other electricians to make against other party the opposition some best placed to belittle it the mandate making sense its mission since that sept. second is. the job and you shoot the shit i don't blame mr moti the gate of the world down the world has been too good at it are and don't look maybe but on why do you think pakistan's leader supported prime
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minister modi at this election even while firing pakistani shaheen to ballistic missiles while you counted your votes that is something that you must be asking to mr spock that we have no control over the shipment. of that success the damage to the sea do not l.o.l. any extra notes that goes to influence are what i look sense if people who followed leadership they could not present in a 1000000 other so connected a bit of a minister after the election that is of course. that he will come by the way the be generally don't get it in any if it is you never live from outside when the prime minister modi was bombing pakistan the british foreign secretary hunt who knows he may be prime minister we have a bit of an electoral problem here in this country arguably with resumes resignation and to jeremy hunt said round the clock diplomacy from london was going on to stop you going to war with pakistan why do you think britain still believes it has such an influence over your country you know i gave him. never did i but if
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the government or the officials in that london but we have all been maintained you must remember that their. mission should be between our 2 countries india and bob milby beautifully i'm only belittled by just our if not to challenge just fighting dia it's alledged of many that if in the board at the better bishop that if that. recognize that a sponsor from this side of the talent spoke all the democratic countries in the world and obviously pakistan denies its sponsorship of terror bases do you not think that the b j p will be furthering isolating india given that it's still not signing up to china's belt and road initiative even even britain has signed up or is preparing to sign up in defiance of washington on the. relationship with china we have heard 5 years that strong arsenal bonhomie been the leader of the
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whole book at peace mr xi jinping and by mr moody the other better leadership will continue our debate of building the ship it will 2nd bid if fundamental. differences that initiated one of our part of that initiate do namely the. j.c.b. she baked in a box on economic data it passes through all part of the benefit which belongs to india are under the legal occupation of pakistan the shared they're probably going to slip in the big big game having debt on the domestic and international obligations of the left lord's ok about the corridor we'll try to get the chinese ambassador london to respond to that but you don't think that there are some powers that are interested in undermining your country by creating fights between you and your neighbor pakistan not i totally been a. audience using india is to lead in days. very
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self-contradiction mission would be you were not alone all those to be used by any other of the other issues other problems you don't need but have had a history go to the next from the us but to share not until your flames in 47 we are fishing those issues we have had ups and downs in this relationship you know what we are getting relations but many. because of that it is only a hard problem of the other what's their heart problems but real issue these problems as the end but about hoping that things will improve but little after the concerns there has been dating from time to love that happens that if you build become normal again you mentioned earlier she didn't ping and that i mean putin called i work very quick to call your prime minister to congratulate him of course is not that long ago that my pompei i was signing a massive military communications deal with india any danger that india may become
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a washington proxy in that region when our other buddy or i made a strong defense partner has been pushed out. be even create continuing bullbaiting barking to the super bowl from the shop example the latest one the other 4 and that got farts displaying the. wire and us demand we went ahead beat or never were french in the us their 2nd medal issued ships been traditionally shipped a new one to me and the relationships on a standalone business it would be controlled out of gator bailey part of ramadan thank you now we can hear from india's opposition from the indian national congress under john joins me now via skype from mumbai sanjay welcome to going underground so it's usually the economic stupid as people used to say 270000000 people out of poverty in the past 10 years no surprise the b j p a back in one. you know if you
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look at that number up to 70000000 people growing out of poverty don't forget that a significant number if you look at that you would be report it talks about that period between 2000 and $4.00 to 2015 so basically it covers 10 years of that you congress don't about one thing let government and just one europe so there really is success in dollars of and to all the ts lifting many people over the poverty line is really belong to the cult is fighting do you think the fact that the indian people didn't recognize that was partly to do with congress party election tactics things like being against the supreme court decision on female equality in kerala as regards that temple scandal and it appeared that the congress party were congratulating the b j p on air strikes on pakistan by crowing about the airstrikes on pakistan back when they were in power. well you know the short i also do that this particular election the famous line is sick on me stupid which bill
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clinton said clearly was and it was because india is seeing a rampant unemployment direct quote 45 year high gradient distress in terms of the collapse of the real economy is a significant challenge india is also seeing discipline private investment our g.d.p. is being questioned in terms of the indignity of digital we've got a bit of china and you know there has been attempt to suppress in terms of the humongous job crisis so i think indian economy frankly speaking has lacked a deceiver don't know. and therefore you know if you look at the endowed campaign of the beach as you reckon mentioned it's not about what nationalism marketing or language i was talking about the congress party and its hyper nationalism well let me tell you i think the congress party honest the lead of this undoubtedly action on the front foot looking at the fundamental what we call it the meat and buggy do
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we shoes or get out of that we didn't even work if i could just interrupt there why is the congress party going to retire northern army commander lieutenant general d.s. huda who actually mowed being a prime minister but he likes to do a report on how congress would run the foreign policy of india think china is india's principal strategic threat is that the kind of congress government that indians and look forward to today have the b.g.p. have been one. well let me tell you i mean there is no denying that india's traditional rivals cross border have been up to stardom and china you know that we have had wars of these 2 countries and are as far as focused on is concerned india has been of victim of or cross border of violent death or attacks one of the worst thing $2611.00 it which was seen all over the world now the communist party has been at the head of affairs when we have had those wars against both these countries so he understandably so there's antagonism there with china which would
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certainly alarm some people in the finance sector in india i would think and surely the indian people remembered how new liberalism was created by a congress party as they turned into a cheap labor hub of globalization what are you not to be frank i mean it's a congress party that liberalize the economy it's a communist party which is actually being more informed. the stock markets have done much better under the u.p.a. than it's done under the india so there was this popular perception created that the dollar sparky only understands events that expenditure subsidies while the truth of the matter is that india needs a combination of course you need to be growth oriented as then as you need to look after those who are below the poverty line are at the beach if you know what opinion is clueless of an economy i mean a very famous nobel laureate just the other with the one sick if the b.g.p. has an economists and i am of any doubts that. over the in the b.
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ball disagree do you think it was wise again of congress party tactics in trying to prove implication in corruption over the french military warplane the deal with rafal when the congress party is so famous all around the world arguably for corruption. when everybody all these allegations made against they're going to sparky what for larry but more than 2014 because all these strategies about just mudslinging and hoping something sticks to the truth is nobody got convicted there are no cases against anybody over 5 years of a politically vindictive government there is no evidence because that is look at upshur now the point where mr morley is concerned i can tell you it does that by party put it out in a manifest still that there are fed jed deal the biggest defense deal in the street is a corruption deal is a kearny capitalism gets when there isn't more the head of a prominent industrial baron from india and getting that transaction off a humongous up $5000000000.00 so we would investigate him if we were in government
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but we will continue to protest and make sure that the supreme court and other agencies dick notice of it even if it was to movies and but obviously mr money denies any allegations just fine and then what for the b j b what for congress party politics in india because congress could move more to the neo liberal right now or maybe allied to the left maybe with the obviously the communist party of india what to tell you the congress party has run discovered in this country for 55 years we have seen downtime so we have seen how we have to be selected ourselves so we are very confident of many state elections we don't want to be on the corner india has 29 states or between now and the next general election the be $29.00 of them and each one of one of them will be a referendum on the us and the b.g.p. what do b.g.p. does we don't know because all they do is make daughter rhetoric lot of people believe he wanted a lot of gas they have to deliver definitely canonically they have divided our society they have been a threat to the minorities india's institutions are virtually commodores and the
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democracy and constitution in our countries are the cedars set therefore we should be very alert as an opposition and would be very confident of coming back in each and every federal state election before the next big one is due in 24 cents or job thank you after the break instead of trump threatening iran when. extinction should be reading the management of savagery we speak to it's award winning author up next move until all the more coming up in part 2 of going on the ground. sensors financial survival guide i don't find any i prize on a teacher's. face almost 5. as the last of my x. in the future so crocker was kaiser. and. they were going to see that happen to fortune it was not feet but they managed to
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overthrow all the previous governments the means of the former president and c.e.o. of ford which to 40 years the country people wanted much more and they didn't want just to travel freely with your of they want to through to become part of. this is very far way to go still you mean you're right. in the lake says and she forms part of a high altitude nature reserve. it's one of the famous chat room indonesia's principle which a way starts its journey. but it can be summed up at the top to bottom i got to be an ox. it runs
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300 kilometers from source to mouth and there are over $200.00 industrial facilities ranged along its banks. and mad on your muscle. but. you do 3 things. i don't like. i'm a good deal of the. room here against over 4000 rice fields and supplies drinking water to 25000000 people. at the mall and yes i saw night about so many of us about us from at the top our people here. welcome back this weekend pease commemorated a u.k. atrocity that killed or wounded 162 for which no one has ever been charged today 2 years since the manchester arena attack it was
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a cowardly and sickening attack that deliberately targeted innocent and defenseless children by joining the prime minister in commemorating all the victims of the match the bombing 2 years ago there is be not one mention of the defacto complicity of the u.k. intelligence agency m i 5 in the activities of the men just obama and how to raise a may facilitate the travel to libya of those around the boma instead an m.p. elected as a call with labor party politician appeared to resurrect a war britain was soundly defeated in with a bomb as allies fought on the u.k. side now she may not how long left and good luck with those meetings later today but she can act now against the return of chemical weapons british experts of this morning investigating a suspected chlorine attack by al assad in italy will if she's proved will she lead the international response against the return of this
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indiscriminate evil but has it ever been proven that president assad of syria has ordered these are chemical weapons joining me now from washington is the new york times bestselling author of the management of savagery how america's national security state. fueled the rise of al qaeda rises and donald trump backs blumenthal max thanks so much for coming back or let's just begin with the new reports of syrian chemical attacks just as we had that leak go blue document suggesting there was a fake justification is a french american bombings of syria what my book the management of savagery details is the whole history of u.s. and u.k. collaboration with jihadist an extreme islamist elements using them as proxies from the afghan proxy war starting in 1979 to the present in syria and you know as i detail this history i show how an entire propaganda apparatus has been set up 1st
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to obscure the sordid history of these of this collaboration but also to stimulate western support for intervention for increased support for these proxy forces and direct intervention and you know this isn't surprising that the u.s. is now alleging that there might be another chemical attack because they trumpet ministration and this is this goes to the heart of another theme in the book which is the contradictions of the national security state the most islamophobia could ministration in u.s. history is actually protecting the base of the largest franchise of al qaeda since $911.00 which is live and this goes unmentioned when the u.s. makes these strange allegations about chemical attacks but the whole point of this allegation is to once again trip the red line and as a former obama adviser told harper's imposing the red line policy is an
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invitation for a false flag attack the same kind of false flag attack that we apparently witnessed last year in duma which in o.p.c. w. engineers report that was suppressed revealed i have to say that the press here is saying that it's a humanity. and catastrophe in it live as those islam is being attacked and as we know in the book it shows islamists being moved on from the war on libya the nato war in libya and also to syria but also arguably. this is the week of the anniversary of the magister trial city why why do you think it is that no one's mentioning u.k. intelligence links to the bomb or the area on the ground to consult my book details the whole history also of what took place to in libya under the grounds on the grounds of other responsibility to protect doctrine where there was this massive nato intervention and the m i 6 called on its ratline in manchester of libyan
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exiles who had been affiliated with the libyan islamic fighting group which is a long time affiliate of al qaeda led by figures who were trained and armed during the afghan proxy war by the cia one of those was ramadan who was the father of some an oddity went to libya they had their passports restored were given free passage to go fight khadafi ensoulment wound up training with isis was much more hardcore than his father then went to syria to train with isis comes back on a royal navy vessel and then blows up a nail bomb at an ariana grande a concert but this goes much further than one man and one bombing in the u.s. there was sort of the benghazi scandal and that was an attempt to kind of paper over the whole catastrophe of libya where john mccain actually parachuted into benghazi and met with kim bell who was the leader and co-founder of the libyan
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islamic fighting group long time affiliate of al qaeda in order to kosher this organization before nato intervened well john mccain features in your book because he and the rudy. giuliani and a few others all associated with the group that is know off the terrorist watch list here in the un the united states the m e k do you see them using any k. against the iranian government in terms of asymmetric warfare guerrilla warfare against iran well yeah a lot of these figures also have their names on a lot of the regime change documents in the ninety's which are calling for taking down 7 governments in 5 years and now we're seeing those names checked off the regime change target board and you know now these figures are showing up in washington as well as john bolton who is the head of the national security council of the white house doing high profile well paid speaking gigs for the emmy getting
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like 40000 or 50000 a pop and what is the emmy kaye well it's an iranian exile regime change cult that abuses its members it appears to be funded not only by iranian exiles but saudi arabia and we recently witnessed rudy giuliani in new york at a gathering of the m e k celebrating the fact and i don't even know if it's a fact that iranians were selling their organs in the street because they had become so desperate thanks to the crushing effect of u.s. sanctions so this organization is dedicated as donald trump's vowed in a tweet last week to the full scale destruction of iran as a functional country in the fact that it has what is affectively an asset in the national security council should be chilling to anyone talking about of u.s. policy trying to stall of people into submission the european union and the british government obviously seek the overthrow of the venezuelan government what did you make of this week's announcement that the united states is trying to stop. the
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infamous few food program for the poor in venezuela on the one hand you have the united states kind of coming out in the open and essentially admitting that its goal with sanctions is to. to starve the venezuelan people especially the poorest members and most vulnerable members of its society the clap program feeds over $6000000.00 venezuelans over 15 percent of venezuelan society depends on these buy monthly food boxes that also provide sanitary supplies and i saw how it was distributed how effective and important it is and how it's distributed without political preference in the u.s. now wants to apply sanctions on this so the venezuelan opposition has to decide now do they want to have the mass starvation of their own constituents on their hands and that means going along with washington's agenda and i can actually see the venezuelan opposition starting to fragment with larger and larger segments moving
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towards dialogue which is what needs to happen to get venezuela out of this crisis and of course washington and the organization for american states which is its tool in latin america want anything but dialogue and mediation so we're actually seeing a rift between washington and the venezuelan opposition and i think that's actually a positive development for venezuelans even as they starve and die under sanctions the epigraph to the book is one of the upper graphs with trump says we underscore that states that sponsor terrorism fooling victim to the evil they promote the book is full of information sources perhaps wiki leaks and so on are you surprised that actually the information is clearly there a little jump was specifically talking about the united states of the use doing about iran the yeah well busy one of the other quotes in the epigraph is from a wiki leaks document it was a state department e-mail from jake sullivan hillary ready clinton's long time foreign policy adviser gleefully declaring that al qaeda is on our side in syria
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and so trumps it casts trumps disgusting quote where he was actually sort of celebrating and isis attack on the iranian parliament a democratic institution in iran in a very ironic light and. and this is the price that the u.s. has paid for getting in bed with jihad ists an extreme islamist to achieve a geo political goal $911.00 the whole catastrophe of the war on terror the boondoggle of iraq the destruction of libya the fragmentation of syria and the refugee crises as well as the rise of the islamophobia industry that figures like donald trump drew on to gain national popularity and just finally it's clear in the book that president obama and hillary clinton the d.n.c. come under particular scrutiny in this book ironic that you tend to privilege or accuse of bridging plus of identity when you see the show in the book that clinton
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michelle obama or even a little in president obama it's the it's the d.n.c. that is responsible of the attack you know it's being racist being mis origin is being islamophobia gandhi semitic as a christian the considerations of the global population which is mostly brown and black never comes into focus when foreign policy decisions are made and so when on the hill on the side of the democrats you have the liberal interventionists who speak the rhetoric of the responsibility to protect doctrine of humanitarian intervention ism and what they always wind up at chivas when they intervene in a place like libya is to make the most vulnerable populations of those societies the most exposed to harm from extreme sociopathic elements and so in libya you had the black to work a population getting massacred after nato intervention in syria you have. in the
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mass slaughter of religious minorities christians shia alawite and so you know it really casts the identity politics that it emerge out of the halls of the d.n.c. and that are really the official line of the democratic party in iraq. mc lyte when you consider what happens to populations on the other side of the gun when there's a democratic administration in power and of course you see continuity through the trump administration more than anything despite the freak out that the national security state and the democrats have had about trump being president and supposedly being putin's puppet trump has been much more aggressive across the middle east than you know that obama actually was he on like obama not only intervene twice directly in syria bombing syria twice apparently on the basis of false information but he has armed the ukrainian military he's imposed much harsher sanctions on iran and on russia and venezuela so it's not only continuity but
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a constant escalation that harms the most vulnerable people of the world who happen to be mostly brown and black next moment thank you and that's it for the show he was up by social media and will be back on monday off of european elections to discuss the 3 case but that's decision benjamin zephaniah see that. there's an international economic forum is a unique to today's business world. over the last 21 years the forum has become a leading global platform for discussing economic issues facing russia emerging markets and the world thousands of business community members attend the forum to address today using vital issues. especially foreign coverage.
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your feet up. in a marked change of attitude u.s. mainstream media now warn of the dangerous precedent being set for journalists by washington's intensifying pursuit of julian assange. president trump announces he's sending more troops to the middle east and speeding up arms sales to the region to keep it around in check. and the netflix show 13 reasons why about a teen who kills herself sparks fresh outrage with critics saying it should be pulled from the platform for romanticising suicide our guest debate the issue. the problem is that the kind of you know glamorized kind of romanticized this idea behind it and you know we have to give the you responsibility on this saw it put the onus on the pay.

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