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that is something that you must be asking but mr spock we have no control over the shipment. of that success the democrat a c. do not l.o.l. ily x. the notes that goes to influence our elections if people who thought leadership they could not present in a million or the second noted a bit of a minister after the election that's of course. but it will come by the way the be generally don't get it in any if it is you never live from outside when the prime minister modi was bombing pakistan the british foreign secretary hunt who knows he may be prime minister we have a bit of an electoral problem here in this country arguably with resumes resignation and to jeremy hunt said round the clock diplomacy from london was going on to stop you going to war with pakistan why do you think britain still believes it has such an influence over your country you know i gave him he never did i but if the government or the officials in that land and shit but we have all been maintained you must remember that the mission should be between our two countries
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india and bug will be beautifully i'm only bail it out but just are if not to challenge just fighting it's a challenge for many that if in the board at the derby a shift that. sponsored from this side of the talents book all the democratic countries in the world and obviously pakistan denies its sponsorship of terror bases do you not think that the b j p will be furthering isolating india given that it's still not signing up to china's belt and road initiative even though even britain has signed up or is preparing to sign up in defiance of washington on the. relationship with china we have heard five years strong arsenal bonhomie been the leader of the whole book at peace mission change it being a prime minister movie will go better to leadership will continue. on the basis of
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building the ship it will second betty fundamental. difference if we don't initiate one of our part of that initiate do namely the. j.c.b. she baked in a box on economic data if process the rule. that it three which belongs to india are not going to legal occupation of pakistan be shared they're probably going to slip in the big big game having their own domestic and international obligations of the left lord's ok about the corridor we'll try to get the chinese ambassador london to respond to that but you don't think that there are some powers that are interested in undermining your country by creating fights between you and your neighbor pakistan not a totally in a that any other of that if using india is to lead india a. very self-contradictory nation would be we were not alone all those to be used by any other of the other issues other problems that other neighbor have had
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a history go to the next from the us back to sharon until your flames and forty seven. fishing those issues we have had ups and downs in this relationship you've got we are getting relations but many. because of that it is only a hard problem of the other while it's there are problems but believe me this program says the end but a bit hoping that things will improve will it because the concerns that india has been dating from time to love there happens that issue bill become normal again you mentioned earlier she didn't ping and that i mean putin called the mcclary quick to call your prime minister to congratulate him of course it's not that long ago that my pompei i was signing a massive military communications deal with india any danger that india may become a washington proxy in that region one of our buddy or i made a strong defense partner has been a shout. b.
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even continue to do all they can do they separate from the shark for example the latest well the a four in their platform displaying the reassure. us demand we went ahead be toward our attention do you realize that second medal issues ships been traditionally shipped through our. leadership is understandable because if we were we can't order gator. ramadan thank you now we can hear from india's opposition from the indian national congress under john joins me now via skype from mumbai sanjay welcome to going underground so it's usually the economic stupid as people used to say two hundred seventy million people out of poverty in the past ten years no surprise the b j b a back in well you know if you look at that number up to seventy million people going out of poverty don't forget that a significant number if you look at that you would be to port it talks about the
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period between two thousand and four to two thousand and fifteen so basically it covers ten years of that you create congress dealt them once and let government and just one year so there are real success in dozens of antique will the t.s.a. lifting many people over the poverty line it's really belong to the cult it's funny you think the fact that the indian people didn't recognize that was partly to do with congress party election tactics things like being against the supreme court decision on female equality in carola as regards that temple scandal and it appeared that the congress party were congratulating the b j p on air strikes on pakistan by crowing about the airstrikes on pakistan back when they were in power. well you know the short i also do that this particular election the famous line is sick on me stupid which bill clinton said clearly was and it was because india is seeing a rampant unemployment direct quote forty five year high
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a gradient distress in terms of the collapse of the real economy is a significant challenge india is also seeing discipline private investment our g.d.p. is being questioned in terms of the indignity of digital we've got a bit of china and you know there has been attempt to suppress in terms of the us humungous job crisis so i think indian economy frankly speaking has flattered to deceive i don't know. and therefore you know if you look at the endowed campaign of the beach as you reckon mentioned it's not about what nationalism marking their language i was talking about the congress party and its hyper nationalism well let me tell you i think the congress party honest the relieved of dissent out election on the front foot looking at the fundamental what we call it the meat and put the do we shoes or get out of that we didn't even work if i could just interrupt there why is the congress party going to retire northern army commander lieutenant
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general d.s. huda who actually modelling and by means of money likes to do a report on how congress would run the foreign policy of india think china is india's principal strategic threat is that the kind of congress government that indians would look forward to today if the b.g.p. hadn't won. well let me tell you i mean there is no denying that india's traditional rivals cross the border have been up to stardom and china you know that we have had wars of these two countries and are as far as focused on is concerned india has been of victim of or cross border of violent death or attacks one of the worst thing twenty six eleven it which was seen all over the words now the communist party has been at the helm of affairs when we have had those wars against both these countries so he understands this is where there's antagonism there with china which would certainly alarm some people in the finance sector in india i would think and surely the indian people remembered how new liberalism was created
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by a congress party as they turned into a cheap labor hub of globalization what are you not to be frank i mean it's a congress party that liberalize the economy it's a communist party which has actually been more informed. the stock markets have done much better under the u.p.a. than it's done under the m.t.a. so there was this popular perception created that equality sparky only understands events that expenditure and subsidies while the truth of the matter is that india needs a combination of course you need to be growth oriented as then as you need to look after those who are below the poverty line are at the beach if you know what opinion is clueless of an economy i mean a very famous nobel laureate just the other with the one sick if that b.g.p. has an economists than i am of any doubts. over the into be able disagree do you think it was wise again of congress party tactics in trying to prove implication in
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corruption over the french military warplane the deal with rafal when the congress party is so famous all around the world arguably for corruption. when everybody all these allegations made against they're going to sparky what for larry but more than two thousand and fourteen because all these strategies about just mudslinging and hoping something sticks to the truth is nobody got convicted then i will cases against anybody over five years of a politically vindictive government there is no evidence because that is look at upshur now the point of where mr morley is concerned i can tell you does that my party put it out in our manifesto that there are fed jed deal the biggest defense deal in the street is a corruption deal is occurring he capitalism gets when there is a more the head of a very prominent industrial baron from india and getting that transaction off a humongous five billion dollars so we would investigate him if we were in government but we will continue to protest and make sure that the supreme court and other agencies to go to solve it even if it was them all these and but obviously mr
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modi denies any allegations just finally then what for the b j b what for a congress party politics in india because congress could move more to the neo liberal right now or maybe allied to the left maybe with the obviously the communist parties of india whatever tell you the congress party has gone discovered in this country for fifty five years we have seen downtime so we have seen how we have to be selected ourselves so we are very confident of many state elections we don't want to be in our corner india has twenty nine states or between now and the next general election will be twenty nine of them and each one of one of them will be a referendum on the us and the b.g.p. what the b.g.p. does we don't know because all they do is make dollar rhetoric lot of people believe we got it a lot of gas they have to deliver definitely canonically they have divided our society they have been attached to the minorities india's institutions are virtually commodores and the democracy and constitution in our countries are the cedars set therefore we should be very alert as an opposition and would be very confident of coming back in each and every federal state election before the next
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big one is due in twenty four cents or drop thank you after the break instead of trying threatening iran when. extinction should be reading the management of savagery we speak to it's award winning or for the next move until all the civil coming up on to i'm going underground. the. gob. like you did to go belly. up.
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many of us about us from our. welcome back this weekend p.s. commemorated a u.k. atrocity that killed or wounded one hundred sixty two for which no one has ever been charged today. since the manchester arena attack it was a callously and sickening attack that deliberately targeted innocent defenseless children by joining the prime minister in commemorating all the victims of the match the bombing two years ago there is be not one mention of the defacto complicity of the you came teligent sage and c m i five in the activities of the men just obama and how to raise a may facilitate the travel to libya of those around the boma instead an m.p. elected as a call with labor party politician appeared to resurrect
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a war britain was soundly defeated in with obama's allies fought on the u.k.'s now she may. i don't how long left and good luck with those meetings later today but she can act now against the return of chemical weapons british experts of this morning investigating a suspected chlorine attack by al assad in italy will if you choose prove will she lead the international response against the return of these indiscriminate evil but has it ever been proven that president assad of syria has ordered these chemical weapons joining me now from washington is the new york times bestselling author of the management of savagery how america's national security state fueled the rise of al qaeda rises and trump max blumenthal max thanks so much for coming back or let's just begin with the new reports of syrian chemical attacks just as we had that leaked. document suggesting there was
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a fake justification for. french american bombings of syria what my book the management of savagery details is the whole history of u.s. and u.k. collaboration with jihadist then extreme islamist elements using them as proxies from the afghan proxy war starting in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine to the present in syria and you know as i detail this history i show how an entire propaganda apparatus has been set up first to obscure this sordid history of these of this collaboration but also to stimulate western support for intervention for increased support for these proxy forces and direct intervention and you know this isn't surprising that the u.s. is now alleging that there might be another chemical attack because they trumpet ministration and this is this goes to the heart of another theme in the book which
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is the contradictions of the national security state the most islamophobia could ministration in u.s. history is actually protecting the. base of the largest franchise of al qaeda since nine eleven which is live and this goes unmentioned when the u.s. makes these strange allegations about chemical attacks but the whole point of this allegation is to once again trip the red line and as a former obama adviser told harper's imposing the red line policy is an invitation for a false flag attack the same kind of false flag attack that we apparently witnessed last year in duma which an o.p.c. w. engineers report that was suppressed revealed i have to say that the press here is saying that it's a humanitarian catastrophe in live as those islam is being attacked and as we know in the book it shows islam is being moved on from the war on libya the nato
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war in libya and also to syria but also arguably. this is the week of the anniversary of the magistrate draw city why why do you think it is that no one's mentioning u.k. intelligence links to the bomb or the area on the ground a constant my book details the whole history also of what took place to in libya under the grounds on the grounds of other responsibility to protect doctrine where there was this massive nato intervention and the m i six called on its ratline in manchester of libyan exiles who had been affiliated with the libyan islamic fighting group which is a long time affiliate of al qaeda led by figures who were trained and armed during the afghan proxy war by the cia one of those was ramadan who was the father of some an oddity went to libya they had their passports restored were given free passage to go fight khadafi ensoulment wound up training with isis was much more hardcore
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than his father then went to syria to train with isis comes back on a royal navy vessel. and then blows up a nail bomb at an ariana grande a concert but this goes much further than one man and one bombing in the u.s. there was sort of the benghazi scandal and that was an attempt to kind of paper over the whole catastrophe of libya where john mccain actually parachuted into benghazi and met with kim bell who was the leader and co-founder of the libyan islamic fighting group long time affiliate of al qaida in order to kosher this organization before nato intervened well john mccain features in your book because he and the rudy giuliani and a few others will associated with the group that is no off the terrorist watch list here in the u.n. the united states the m.e. kay do you see them using any k against the iranian government in terms of
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asymmetric warfare guerrilla warfare against iran well you know a lot of these figures also have their names on a lot of the regime change documents in the ninety's which are calling for taking down seven governments in five years and now we're seeing those names checked off the regime change target board and you know now these figures are showing up in washington as well as john bolton who is the head of the national security council of the white house doing high profile well paid speaking gigs for the emmy getting like forty thousand or fifty thousand a pop and what is the emmy kaye well it's an iranian exile regime change cult that abuses its members it appears to be funded not only by iranian exiles but saudi arabia and we recently witnessed rudy giuliani in new york at a gathering of the emmy kaye celebrating the fact and i don't even know if it's a fact that iranians were selling their organs in the street because they had become so desperate thanks to the crushing effect of u.s.
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sanctions so this organization is dedicated as donald trump's vowed in a tweet last week to the full. scale destruction of iran is a functional country in the fact that it has what is affectively an asset in the national security council should be chilling to anyone talking about of u.s. policy trying to stall of people into submission the european union and the british government obviously seek the overthrow of the venezuelan government what did you make of this week's announcement that the united states is trying to stop. the infamous few food program for the poor in venezuela on the one hand you have the united states kind of coming out in the open and essentially admitting that its goal with sanctions is to starve the venezuelan people especially the poorest members and most vulnerable members of its society the clap program feeds over six million venezuelans over fifteen percent of venezuelan society depends on these buy
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monthly food boxes that also provide sanitary supplies and i saw how it was distributed how effective and important it is and how it's distributed without political preference in the u.s. now wants to apply sanctions on this so the venezuelan opposition has to decide now do they want to have the mass starvation of their own constituents on their hands and that means going along with washington's agenda and i can actually see the venezuelan opposition starting to fragment with larger and larger segments moving towards dialogue which is what needs to happen to get venezuela out of this crisis and of course washington and the organization for american states which is its tool in latin america want anything but dialogue and mediation so we're actually seeing a rift between washington and the venezuelan opposition and i think that's actually a positive development for venezuelans even as they starve and die under sanctions the epigraph to the book is one of the upper graphs with trump says we underscore
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that states that sponsor terrorism fooling victim to the evil they promote the book is full of infamy. sources perhaps wiki leaks and so on you surprise that actually the information is clearly there a bunch will jump was specifically talking about the united states of the use doing about iran the yeah well one of the other quotes in the epigraph is from a wiki leaks document it was a state department e-mail from jake sullivan hillary clinton's long time foreign policy adviser gleefully declaring that al qaeda is on our side in syria and so trumps it casts trumps disgusting quote where he was actually sort of celebrating and isis attack on the iranian parliament a democratic institution in iran in a very ironic light and this is the price that the us has paid for getting in bed with jihad ists an extreme islamist to achieve a geo political goal nine eleven the whole catastrophe of the war on terror the
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boondoggle of iraq the destruction of libya the fragmentation of syria and the refugee crises as well as the rise of the islamophobia industry that figures like donald trump drew on to gain national popularity and just finally it's clear in the book that president obama and hillary clinton the d.n.c. come under particular scrutiny in this book ironic that you tend to privilege or accuse of bridging plus of identity when you see the show in the book that clinton michelle obama or even a little in president obama it's the it's the d.n.c. that is responsible of the attack you know it's being racist being mis origin is being islamophobia gandhi semitic as a christian and she can i mean is the considerations of the global population which is mostly brown and black never comes into focus when foreign policy decisions are made and so when on the hill on the side of the democrats you have the liberal
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interventionists who speak the rhetoric of the responsibility to protect doctrine of humanitarian interventionism and what they always wind up at chivas. when they intervene in a place like libya is to make the most vulnerable populations of those societies the most exposed to harm from extreme sociopathic elements and so in libya you had the black to work the population getting massacred after nato is intervention in syria you have grams in the mass slaughter of religious minorities christians shia alawite and so you know it really casts the identity politics that it emerged out of the halls of the d.n.c. and that of really the official line of the democratic party in an ironic light when you consider what happens to populations on the other side of the gun when there's a democratic administration in power and of course you see continuity through the trump administration more than anything despite the freak out that the national
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security state of the democrats have had about trump being president and supposedly being putin's puppet trump has been much more aggressive across the middle east than you know that obama actually was he on like obama not only intervene twice directly in syria bombing syria twice apparently on the basis of false information but he has armed the ukrainian military he's imposed much harsher sanctions on iran and on russia and venezuela so it's not only continuity but a constant escalation that harms the most vulnerable people of the world who happen to be mostly brown and black next moment thank you and that's it for the show you just my social media will be on the day off of your being the elections to discuss the free case for breakfast that's the poet actor in decision benjamin zephaniah see that.
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a tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented. but that socialism has been only implement from the inside venezuela things look different we're going to announce sanctions against petroleum to venezuela so she. famously have a son of the moment to. get out of that political. move to be. the focal the whose story isn't new nixon called in henry kissinger to tell him that it would not be tolerated in latin america an alternative economic and social system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make. the chilean economy scream so wants to make the call in the venezuela screen.
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in a moment change of attitude u.s. mainstream media now warn of the dangerous precedent being set for journalists by washington. mr trump announces he sending more troops to the middle east than speeding up the region to keep him around in check. you know thirty reasons why about the teen who kills himself sparks fresh outrage with critics saying that it should be pulled from the platform for a month suicide august to see if. the problem is that they did kind of you know glamorized kind of romanticize this idea behind it you know we have to give the responsibility on this are put the onus on the parents i think paris.
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