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on twitter just the other day how is that not a threat well i think when you're describing mr power be your forwarding to martial arts russian propaganda not just the russian i mean he has a previous catchy record and it's recognized not only in russia but also in the west he is welcome. from parliament so i don't think that many people would agree with what you just said of course in culture the russe from radicals about they are not representative of the parliament this parliament is an area that would be a union between right wing conservatives. liberals this is true but busy that's very much the same for example in a country in russia. very very similar portraits of the parliament on the very different from the parliament seen other countries in the west you could at least agree with me that mr pruitt be has been quite critical of zelinsky 1st moves as
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president 1st and foremost his decision to disband the parliament and call for new elections he's been his rhetoric has been pretty did this if i would say you disagree but mr probus is a representative for both parts of cold popular front and this party is suffers the most. of the premature elections because right now they they came 1st in the previous elections lost a lot of the popular support because their prime minister mr he said you had to be responsible for the most unpopular reforms in the contract and increase of gas and electricity tariffs what people of course didn't like a poll. that's why the. approval of the sponsor right now is. so it's over this that in the next elections the sponsors move busy making it to the next parliament so of course he was. of course it was speaking very loudly
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against this but. another political party which makes their own call we show. will be a pro presidential party is the other way around so they won't premature elections because they think that there was sort of sleaze for there were no lies right now and that they can become the major opposition in the next parliament which. francis bacon dealt well i think this is actually a very interesting topic because the outgoing rather is filled with my down political class these are the people who just 5 years ago presented themselves as this new generation that's radically different from all their predecessors and yet judging from opinion polls their chances of getting reelected are about as good as pressure why do you think the voters are getting so skeptical i will put it mildly so skeptical of the my don crop of politicians you see here. you can see that happen to $1014.00 it was more hasn't even started
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a law it was started because they managed to overthrow the previous government. the former president and c.e.o. of course which to free the country or. go to rio for representatives of the old elites the poor associate with a battlefield each of them 5 years down the line busy. that was the major the major thing of course people wanted much more and they didn't want just the ability to travel freely with europe they want to through to become part of europe but to become part of europe means a lot of social guarantees social care it means jobs. living standards. this is a very far way to go still in ukraine now one consistent feature of ukrainian politics is the ability of politicians to shed their political skin grow a new one do you think people who used to associate themselves with by the profession could. somebody else obviously likely to try to rebrand themselves as
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supporters. some will try. but i don't think they will be generally very much successful. ukraine is true for the 1st time in this history to receive a parliament where one part of the would have the majority of seats that will be a personal scheme is a political party have called this sort of i'm for the people. in ukrainian politics because before the water started to give one chunk of power to the president and the mother to his opponents in their home in the parliament secondly. of course because for the parliament is elected partially on the part of the eastern part of chile and soon go monday it's. districts those people who are elected directly by the people usually the people from the business just.
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local dignity. interests. them to be politically of course. in the past the most likely would joining the. corps currently they are more likely to be alliance with mr resilience q but they knew where i think that the decisions would be made snowing in his office the power would be we more consulted the 5th the 5th was before now even to be taking it for granted that selenski is would have a smashing success the parliamentary seat on the spot it would have a smashing success at the parliamentary elections but it's clear that he's team is very limited they don't have people on the ground they don't have enough infrastructure to organize that vote and to some respect the parliamentary vote is much more complex and complicated than the presidential vote because you have to vote the many many representatives rather than the why you so sure that all those people in single. they districts will support him because they tend to associate
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themselves with bush on korean deposit impression christians to be quite fired up to continue his political life. of course the former president will fight for his best to stay in port 6 but we saw the moment move to previous elections though selectional shoulder very clear is that people want all the people from the past to go. that's why me some of the key have got almost 75 percent or 4 popular support as those elections of course. parliamentary elections your core you absolutely correct would be not so convincing most likely he would get closer to 50 percent support for his political party but that would be sufficient to get more than 50 percent of seats in the parliament of course we will see how that goes about the current forecast that he would have $230.00 seats
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in $450.00 seats at home there are now i heard you say recently dad the changes that you personal like to see in russia would have to start in ukraine and this is something we're heard 5 years ago from patrol poroshenko who essentially continued with politics as usual now clearly selenski looks fresher and more progressive but i suppose it's not just about looks aren't you being carried away by his style at the expense of substance or substances yet to come because being associated with the government of ukraine is what the presidential republican is a parliamentary republic and the government is being formed by the parliament so right now president is more a symbolic figure rather than the real either so he would take as human the power.
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i would say or only by the end of the summer. before that but returning to your original question you see mr poroshenko was coming to power as the president of peace on for shortly croom has pushed him to become the president for who or by a fool scale offensive in eastern ukraine by grabbing more pieces of territory of the original i suppose mr poroshenko didn't have a say you are trying to tell me that everything is decided in moscow they present a few great had absolutely no decision and that there is there is an aggression and the country has to defend itself and you cannot be the president of peace when you have to defend yourself you can still deal with corruption issues and economic growth reach he didn't deal with successfully i think you would grant me that that's a separate issue the primary issue for ukrainians was the question of war and peace and that was the 1st major problem with the previous present them but that was more
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to his fault it was the fact that was imposed over the country by. storm a force on the force was a more skill rather than arguing about who is to blame for what's happening between russia and ukraine what i'm more interested in is the sort of the transformation in post of its side is and we all know that it's far more complicated than it seems look at armenia for example they had a peaceful transition of power last year and i think it's clear that the new prime minister is facing a lot of difficulties reforming the system getting rid of corruption etc i just wonder if people on their ass have made how difficult it is to change things in our countries and if they perhaps expect too much from their leaders and too little from themselves nor of course it is very difficult and ukraine is a large country. 45000000 people so with just one 3rd or for the size. russia so valley the size do 1st look like 10 times
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a 100 times. like small georgia with 4000000 people with well he's reforms or what 3000000 people mean you know with pushing out of course we are talking about a country which has them times larger. death and of course the fact that often their share is very large but still it starts from the feeder off than either eve of the neither is clean if the leader is moten good. deals if they neither one. has a priority. to making his own prosperous then i think everything would move in the right direction and i think that is exactly the type of free there i'm talking about well mr pena madoff we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. if
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you will not obey the voice of the lord your god will be careful to do all these commandments and the statutes. then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you. and then the people is stolen property and therefore it must be returned to the people if they get rid of whites only problems will go away. within the. presence of the physical. people being tortured to death expression the elderly people in the.
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he's rich famous some always on the move saving yachts and flying aircraft that it's. not no. she's considered one of the best neurosurgeons in brazil. that's happening amazon. allergies so says going to busy doing nothing is going to do the population not because it's going to people from mama's own. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then.
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welcome back to worlds apart in the up in the media also russian politicians in exile in ukraine. by the way your twitter handle still describes you as temporarily reciting in ukraine is that the an accurate description given that from what i know you've recently acquired the ukrainian passport are you there still temporarily or are you there for life or i here until we see positive changes both in ukraine and russia yes i acquired ukrainian citizenship wrong hands of former president mr poroshenko that's happened through his last day and more in his last working our in his office which i am probably from very very thankful for him but.
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needs to make the country successful and that's what i am diligently working every day did you have to give up your russian citizenship to get the ukrainian one. ukrainian rule or carlos it acquires a year or so to say grace period during which i am to decide to give up my russian citizenship so it's not that i am pressured to do this immediately and there are a lot of discussions in the parliament to we actually allow. citizenship but i don't think that would be a political goal for russians because. my country unfortunately still the aggressor . ukraine and i think that for russia will be an exclusion and that would be a lot a lot of the world. but anyway we see well i think the experience of some of these self exiled ukrainian politicians may all for some hope to you because a lot of them have been returning to key of these days after
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a few years of self exile in israel or in the europe the most prominent one the one that's attracting a lot of attention is obviously eager kalinowski what do you think is the nature of his relationship with the new president. of the part of course because mr t. was the or when they're off t.v. channel one plus one we're 50 quarter of the. 4 mr sales key was go into life. as far as the enormous took almost he was heavily in the frontal for 5 words or less why he had to support me during the election so that's what what he did and i suppose this is not where the. connection ends at least in public imagination because president selenski has made a number of controversial appointments recently but they want that attracted most attention is the bog down colombo person the lawyer who is now serving as the
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lefties they had of the lansky presidential administration do you think this appointment is consistent with. promise to put an end to politics as usual. first of all about the poor success you show in the mean when you fist or ready. sort of the people it was actually display like least like an experienced president from the people means to go about what was performed by mr president has come into power and he has as he's right and as the chief of staff a person from the past who is actually helping him to live in the true. both water so if you create your own politics so in this appointment with mr borden this fully consistent with this promise and that's exactly what he did but speaking seriously . is local so that mr coleman. mr
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walker the political career i mean has started in the political party of the president in the times of forestry who from. both of them was moving the to put a hold on that other but by president bush and co and was on the part of the lists or. a political party. if there are. no he's working with mr studios because so i think if he is just a professional mercenary so to say a professional warrior who works for different masters well one of the masters you failed to mention was the ousted president viktor you know convicts he served in his government as well and believe it or not he was responsible for fighting corruption just for one year for one year he was appointed as the chief for french a corruption team and actually resigned because he. failed actually when the
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success in the environment was a pretty well but he still worked for the administration and from what i understand there is a law that prevents him or prevents the administration from appointing him in any civil capacity now what i'm interested in is why do you think mr selenski would take such a controversial decision because he clearly is a smart guy he could have been oblivious to the kind of outcry that he's a disappointment would produce do you think he made it on purpose or do you think it's indicative of the governing style that selenski may assume in the future i think that. here is the parallel with mr trump. coming to power of the person who is no polling. a cool experience he needs to have people who form one size you can trust from another site who can actually do your. and there is a great defensive of such people next to. hugh there are some people who can come
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to trust. another appointment which i think is close to brewing to as when he pointed to his former executive manager of flying quarterlies t.v. show as the new chief of. the new chief or again the speaking american storms on the homeland security. which may. here in kiev but that's because that's the persons of interest he's a trust to clean up. sort of the sense of corruption. that are facing him with mr wharton was just that the more it is the most politically experienced guy he is appointed to the position or for home office for mr zinni else king or the person who they call the back office stuff all the dirty work for this purpose i think that that he fits perfectly now are ukrainians are known for their exquisite sense of humor and i think the success so far as lenski is a testament to that but i think you would also perhaps agree that what people in
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ukraine and in many other post soviet countries want to see is some sort of meritocracy rather than a new leader coming in and appointing his close friends in the position of power to guard a list of what they have. a necessary experience on not it's understandable in the 1st few days of administration but do you think that approach would have to change as mrs m m's q moves forward or again. was a promise that was absolutely clear stated in the movie that time will come although he's not the political platform that was seriously made is that force may . seem a show that's why people actually voted for him i have also. myself 4. dollars so whether all the people would be able to perform properly but most likely of them would learn some of them probably will be replaced in the future if if they would
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fail to do or. at least they are clearly in trust for free and they are not bottle part of the past which i really appreciate let me ask you one more question about the book down i don't know if you had a chance to read his recent interview but what struck me in it was that he almost tries to project himself as the steve bannan of ukrainian politics he takes credit for pushing dyleski toward the elections he claims to be this larger than life political strategist almost to muster mind of zelinsky candidacy do you think it's a fair comparison between bogged down bad and i think that it's more speaks about the personalities these guys are really a very ambitious guy. that's why he was criticized so heavily by everybody so i think that he is in the friend that that he's trying to brand that all the time by a mindless opposite of mr coleman that's why he wants to say no guys i'm different
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i have my own opinion you know one of the favorite jokes currently in ukraine speaking about ukrainian humor is that ukraine is all war with game of thrones and ukraine is now starting a young boy. i know that these young peeress is one of the favorites here is so for me such as it inskeep and his 1st public performances remind you so much about that and if you remember all those muster miles all those people who were quite convinced that they would be able to pull strings there eventually were completely out of any political influence and i think that would be the case with mr zale skills well that's you know there's parallels with cinema they make me think of for . ask e.p. is because i mean it's one thing to watch something on the telly and people usually do that when their reality is not very. exciting do you think there will have to come
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a moment when the ukraine him political class will have to face the harsh reality of actually building the economy and delivering on the promises that it made to their all i think it's quite obvious the focus will be the primary focus for mr sale scare truth to fix their corner because currently unfortunately yes it is the poorest country in the world the result of previous poor together a few crying in the leaves and international advisor so fire away from the whole of the. keys commute to fix all that in the near future but also probably would not be achieved without making peace with the russian. aggression in eastern ukraine and they think. this is the right approach he wants to speak directly to people if you want to the critical question for hope to achieve peace on the public referendum and i think that's the
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exactly the right approach the war make it through with the old elites to move to a new future well i i i don't know if you've heard that but i think here already a backpedaled on the promise of having some direct engagement with the crime and he was asked the other day whether he wants to have any talks with moscow and he said no and this is actually what i want to ask you about. the kind of approach that you would like most to take i'm sure you know that the kremlin has so far been called addict and distant yet i can tell you that russia would love to have a new beginning with ukraine it's avodah and regardless of who you talk to what kind of approach do you think would be optimal here. because clearly i mean investing too much hope and big too forthcoming may not work well as well because as as i said he has already the big cattle from his promises. to
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have peace with ukraine there is a very clear and very easy method how to do this they called military force from eastern ukraine and crimea and there will be peace with ukraine you call that easy seriously you have an experience in russian politics you think that's easy what you're proposing here. war. fortunately my country currently wants war and look peace but i think the reason possibilities here to negotiate about one part of the war the one which. ukraine you remember if you years ago there was also a previous relationship between russia and georgia politically chip hasn't been restored but at least when it comes to the economy the trade is back do you think the same scenario of bringing some sort of economic rapprochement could be a plea to relations between moscow and kiev or of course i think. always can be beneficial. for russia. the question is
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well being if you really help to finance the war ukraine cannot afford that that's why 1st step which needs to be taken to the. eastern ukraine stop in the face or. in the blood of the shootings so printed off ukrainians on the both sides of the. i think i would i would agree with you but the statement about both sides of the division line i think that's critical taking both sides to convert discipline a matter of it's always fun talking to you we have to leave it there thank you very much for making yourself available thanks for having. i'm glad our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and hope to see you again same place same time here on the part of. our.
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stuff. it runs 300 kilometers from source to mouth and there are over 200 industrial facilities ranged along his bankers. i'm out on your muscle. diana to do 3 things. i would like to sell them and to be a part of. the room here again over 4000 rice fields and supplies drinking water to 25000000 people. that the employee gets or so married by so many of us about us a member of our people. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development only personally. i
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