well i would say reserved in the ukraine because if we take mr proby for example he's not your regular scheming politician he's actually a pretty violent guy i mean he represents a pretty extreme faction of the ukrainian politics he's people were filmed moving around weapons on them on my donkey you know that he's widely speculated to have had some role in the massacre that followed when he alludes to the smell of burning tires as he did on twitter just the other day how is that not a threat well i think you're describing mr power be your forwarding. russian propaganda line just russian i mean he he has a previous catchy record and it's recognised not only in russia but also in the west. welcome. from parliament so i don't think that many people would agree with what you just said of course in culture the rostrum radicals they are most representative of the parliament this parliament. would be

a union between right wing conservatives. liberals this is true but busy very much the same for example in our country in russia. very very similar portraits of the parliament and very different from the parliament seen other countries in the west you could at least agree with me that mr pru be has been quite critical of zelinsky 1st moves as president 1st and foremost his decision to disband the parliament and call for new elections he's been his rhetoric has been pretty divisive i would say you disagree but mr probus is a representative for both parts of cold popular busy front and this parties suffers the most. of the premature elections because right now they they came 1st in the previous elections a lot of popular support because their prime. mr he said you had to be responsible

for the most unpopular reforms in the contrail and increase of gas and electricity tariffs what people of course didn't like a poll. that's why the approval of the sponsor right now is. so it's over this the in the next elections the sponsors move making it to the next parliament so of course he was. against and of course was speaking very loudly against this but. another political party which makes that will encourage. will be a pro presidential party is the other way around so they won't premature elections because they think that there was sort of sleaze for there were no lies right now and that they can become the major opposition in the next parliament which. for this because well i think this is actually a very interesting topic because the outgoing rather is filled with my down political class these are the people who just 5 years ago presented themselves as

this new generation that's radically different from all their predecessors and yet judging from opinion polls their chances of getting reelected are about as good as partially why do you think the voters say getting so skeptical i will put it mildly so skeptical of the my don crop of politicians you see here. you can see that happen to $1014.00 it was more hasn't even started a law it was started because they managed to overthrow all the previous governments they made the former president and c.e.o. of course which to free the country or. go to rio for representatives of the old elites the poor associate with a battlefield each of them 5 years down the line. that was the major the major thing of course people wanted much more and they didn't want just the ability to travel freely with europe they want to through to become part of. if you were about

to become part of the if you were a lot of social guarantees social care it means the jobs. living standards. this is a very far way to go still in ukraine now one consistent feature of ukrainian politics is that billet politicians to shed their political skin and grow a new one do you think people who used to associate themselves with either pressure or somebody else obviously likely to try to rebrand themselves as supporters. some will try overtly but i don't think they will be generally very much successful in ukraine is true for the 1st time in this hysteria to receive a parliament where one part of the would have the majority of seats that will be a personal scheme is a political party have called the sort of the people. in the in

ukrainian politics because before that water started to give one chunk of power to the president and the mother to his opponents in the form that are in the parliament secondly of course because for the parliament is elected partially on the parts of the eastern part of chile and soon go monday it's. districts those people who are look to directly by the people usually the people from the business just. local dignity dignity. they tend to be politically a good or stick in the past they most likely would joining the. corps currently they more likely to be alliance with mr resilience q but then your way i think that the decisions would be made snowy in his office the power would be we more consulted the 5th the 5th was before now even to be taking it for granted that selenski would have a smashing success. the parliamentary party would have

a smashing success at the parliamentary elections but it's clear that he's team is very limited they don't have people on the ground they don't have enough infrastructure to organize that vote and to some respects the parliamentary vote is much more complex and complicated than the presidential vote because you have to vote with the many many representatives rather than the one why you so sure that all those people in single man they districts will support him because they tend to associate themselves with bush on curry in the past impression because seems to be quite fired up to continue his political life. of course of the former president will fight for his best to stay in port 6 but we saw the moment move to previous elections though selectional shoulder very clear is that people want all the people from the past to go. that's why mr president have got almost 75 percent or 4 people support those elections of course.

parliamentary elections your core you absolutely correct would be so convincing most likely he would get closer to 50 percent support for his political party but that will be sufficient to get more than 50 percent of seats in the parliament of course we will see how that goes about the current forecast that he would have for $230.00 seats in $450.00 seats at home there are now i heard you say recently dad the changes that you personal like to see in russia would have to start in ukraine and this is something we heard 5 years ago from patrol poroshenko who essentially continued with politics as usual now clearly selenski looks fresher and more progressive but i suppose it's not just about looks aren't you be. carried away by his style at the expense of substance or substances

yet to come because being associated with the government of ukraine is what the presidential republican is a parliamentary republic and the government is being formed by the parliament so right now president is more a symbolic figure rather than the real either so he will take as you move the power i would say or only by the end of the summer. before that but returning to your original question you see mr poroshenko was coming to power as the president of peace on for shortly croom has pushed him to become the president for who or by a fool scale offensive in eastern ukraine by grabbing more pieces of territory of the original i suppose mr poroshenko didn't have a say you are trying to tell me that everything is decided in moscow the present if you create had absolutely no decision then that there is there is an aggression and

the country has to defend itself and you cannot be the president of peace when you have to defend yourself you can still deal with corruption issues and economic growth reach he didn't deal with successfully i think you would grant me that that's a separate issue the priority issue for ukrainians was the question of war and peace and that was the 1st major problem with the previous present them but that was more his fault it was the fact that was imposed over the country by the external force and the force was in more school rather than arguing about who is to blame for what's happening between russia and ukraine what i'm more interested in is the sort of the transformation in post of its side is and we all know that it's far more complicated than it seems look at armenia for example they had a peaceful transition of power last year and i think it's clear that the new prime minister is facing. a lot of difficulties reforming the system getting rid of

corruption etc i just wonder if people on their ass have made how difficult it is to change things in our countries and if they perhaps expect too much from their leaders and too little from themselves nor of course it is very difficult and ukraine is a large country. 45000000 people so with just one 3rd or for the size of russia so. you 1st look like 10 times a 100 times. like small georgia with 4000000 people with well he's a reformist or what 3000000 people you know with. of course we are talking about a country which times larger. of course the fact that often there. is a very large but still it starts from the feeder off than either of the neither is clear if the leader is both. if they neither one. has

a priority. to making his own prosperous then i think thing would move in the right direction and i think that is exactly the type of either i'm talking about well mr pena myself we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. dish you will not obey the voice of the lord you're going to do this any state you come on you this day in all these courses shall come upon you and overtake you. and then the white people just own property and employ must pretend to be people. they

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facebook and google started with a great idea and great ideals unfortunately there was also a very dark so. they are constructing a profile of you and that profile is real it's detailed and it never goes away turns out that google is manipulating your opinions from the very 1st character that you type into the search bar it will always favor one dog food over another one comparative shopping service over another and one candidate over another they can suppress certain types of results on what they think you should be seen if they have this kind of power then democracy is an illusion the free and fair election doesn't exist for the more we. give them the sooner we're all.

welcome back to worlds apart in the up in the my delphi russian politicise in exile in ukraine. by the way your twitter handle still describes you as temporarily reciting in ukraine estab an accurate description given that from what i know you've recently acquired the ukrainian passports are you there still temporarily or are you there for life or i am here until we see positive changes both in ukraine and russia yes i acquired ukraine your citizenship probably has 0 for former president mr poroshenko that's happened through his last day and more in his last

working all were in his office which i am probably from very very thankful for him but. we needs to make the country successful and that's what i am diligently working every day did you have to give up your russian citizenship to get the ukrainian one well ukraine new war current food acquires a year or so to say grace period during which i am to decide to give up my russian citizenship. is what i am pressured to do this immediately and there are a lot of discussions in the parliament to we actually allow the will citizenship but i don't think that would be a political goal for russians because. my country unfortunately still the aggressor . ukraine and i think that for russia will be an exclusion and there will be a lot a lot of the will see who will ship but anyway we see well i think the experience of some of these self exiled ukrainian. titian's may all for some hope to you

because a lot of them have been returning to kiev these days after a few years of self in israel or in the europe the most prominent one the one that's attracting a lot of attention is obviously eager kalinowski what do you think is the nature of his relationship with the new president. i think the part of course because mr t. was the or when they're off t.v. channel one plus one we're 50 quarter of the. 4 mr sales key was go into life every week. as far as an enormous took almost he was heavily in the frontal for 5 words or less why he had to support me so they don't schedule intellectuals and that's what what he did and i suppose this is not where the. connection ends at least in public imagination because president selenski has made a number of controversial appointments recently but they want that attracted most

attention is the bog down colombo person the lawyer who is now serving as. they had of the lansky is presidential administration do you think this appointment is consistent with. promise to put an end to politics as usual. first of all about the poor success you show in the mean when you fist or ready. the people it was actually display like least like an experienced president from the people means to go about what was performed by mr president has come into power and he has as he's right and as the chief of staff a person from the past who is actually helping him to leave the troubled waters of ukrainian politics so in this point of mr borden this fully consistent with this problem. and that's exactly what he did but speaking seriously. is local so

that mr coleman. mr walker the political career i mean has started in the political party of the president in the times before intrusion. both of them was moved in the through the hole in the other but by president bush and co and was on the part of 2 lists or. a political party. no he's working with mr steele's case so i think it's he's just a professional mercenary so to say a professional warrior who works for different masters well one of the masters you failed to mention was the ousted president viktor you know convicts he served in his government as well and believe it or not he was responsible for fighting corruption for one year for one year he was appointed as a chief for french a corruption team and there should be

a resign because he. failed actually when the success in the environment was at the time well but he still worked for the administration and from what i understand there is a law that prevents him or prevents the administration from appointing him in any civil capacity now what i'm interested in is why do you think mr selenski would take such a controversial decision because he clearly is a smart guy he could have been oblivious to the kind of outcry that piece this appointment would produce do you think he made it on purpose or do you think it's indicative of the governing style that selenski may assume in the future. i think that. here is the parallel with mr trump. coming to power of the person with no political experience he needs to have people who form one size he can trust from another side who can actually do your. there is

a great defensive of such people next to. hugh there are some people whom you can trust. another appointment which i think is close to brew into is when he appointed his former executive my leisure of flying for 5 quarts of the t.v. show as the new chief for. the new chief organ and the speaking american storms and the homeland security. which me. here in kiev but that's because that's the persons of interest he's a trust to clean up. sort of the sense of corruption objectives that are facing him with mr wharton was just that the more it is the most politically experienced guy and he is appointed to the position or for office for mr zinni else king or if the person who they call the back office stuff all the dirty work for this purpose i think that that he fits perfectly now our ukrainians are known for

their exquisite sense of humor and i think the success of his lenski is a testament to that but i think you would also perhaps agree that what people in ukraine and in many other post soviet countries want to see is some sort of meritocracy rather than a new leader coming in and appointing his close friends in the position of power big arliss of what they have. a necessary experience on not it's understandable in the 1st few days of administration but do you think that approach would have to change as mrs m m's q moves forward more again. was a promise that was absolutely clear stated in the movie that time will come although he's not a political platform though seriously it is that force may. seem a show that's why people are actually voted for him i have all saw myself 4. dollars so whether all the people would be able to perform properly but. most

likely when you have them would warn some of them probably will be replaced in the future if if they would fail to do or. at least they are clearly in trust for 3 and they are more bottle part of the past which i really appreciate let me ask you one more question about the book down i don't know if you had a chance to read his recent interview but what struck me in it was that he almost tries to project himself as the steve bannan of ukrainian politics he takes credit for pushing dyleski toward the elections he claims to be this larger than life political strategist almost to muster mind of zelinsky candidacy do you think it's a fair comparison between bogged down bad and i think that it's more speaks about the personalities of these guys really a very ambitious guy. that's why he was criticized so heavily by everybody so i think that he is in the friend that that he's trying to brand that all the

time by a mindless spot that mr coleman that's why he wants to say no guys i'm different i have my own opinion you know one of the favorite jokes cancri in ukraine speaking about ukrainian humor is that ukraine is all war with game or frauds and ukraine is now starting young. i know that these young serious is one of the favorites here is so for me such as it in this case and his 1st public performance and sort of mind you so much about that if you remember all those muster miles all those people who were quite convinced that they would be able to pull strings there eventually or were completely out of any political influence and they think that would be the case with mr zale skills well that's you know there's parallels with cinema they make me think of to ask because i mean it's one thing to watch something on on the telly and people usually do that when their reality is not. very. exciting do you

think there will have to come a moment when the ukraine him political class will have to face the harsh reality of actually building the economy and delivering on the promises that it made to the all i think it's quite obvious the focus will be the primary focus for mr zale scare truth to fix their equipment more because currently unfortunately yes it is the poorest country in the world and that's the result of previous poor together if you crying in the leaves and international advisor so fire away from the whole of those keys commute to fix or in the near future or probably with more be achieved without making peace with the russian. aggression in ukraine and they think. this is the right approach he wants to speak directly to people if you want to the critical

question for hall to achieve peace on the public referendum and i think that's the exactly the right approach to war make it through with the old elites to move to a new future well i i i don't know if you've heard that but i think you're already a backpedaled on the promise of having some direct engagement with the crime and he was asked the other day whether he wants to have any talks with moscow and he said no and this is actually what i want to ask you about. the kind of approach that you would like most good to take i'm sure you know that the kremlin has so far been called addict and distant yet i can tell you that russia would love to have a new beginning with ukraine it's avodah regardless of who you talk to what kind of approach do you think would be optimal here because clearly i mean investing too much hope on big to forthcoming may not work well as well because as as i said business. he has already the big cattle from his promises. to have.

with ukraine there is a very clear and very easy method how to do this they called military force from eastern ukraine and crimea and there will be peace with ukraine you called that if you seriously you have an experience in russian politics you think that's easy what you're proposing here. war. fortunately my country currently wants war peace but it's still i think there is a possibility here to negotiate about one part of the war the one which. you remember if you years ago there was also touches relationship between russia and georgia politically dodge relationship hasn't been restored but at least when it comes to the economy the trade is back do you think the same scenario of bringing some sort of economic rapprochement could be a plea to relations between moscow and kiev of course i think. always

be beneficial. for russia. the question is well these being if you really help to finance the war ukraine cannot afford the. first step which needs to be taken to the. eastern ukraine stop in the face or. in the blood of the shootings. or ukrainians on the both sides of the. i think i would i would agree with you but the statement about both sides of the division line i think that's critical taking both sides to convict based upon a matter of it's always fun talking to you we have to leave it there thank you very much for making yourself available thanks for having me i might have yours to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and hope to see you again same place same time here. on worlds apart.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development only mostly i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk.

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