as in the world if you save foreign currency everybody says u.s. dollars that's the problem and that's why people are competitors are now trying to rise because they gave us dollar and u.s. government too much power i don't know what the run into christine legarde recently the famously convicted previously convicted of corruption in a french court head of the i.m.f. but i mean when you meet people like that they don't seem nearly as concerned as you do and they seem relatively sanguine about the world order of the world financial architecture bureaucrats the way you make it in that world is you you rouse up to academia or bureaucracy and you do what you're supposed to do you do what everybody else is does you accept the conventional wisdom and then all of a sudden you look around and the whole world is changed and you don't know what happened for goodness sakes if you're good and you heard lies from government bureaucrats and politicians and academics oh my goodness you're going to have real problems i'm not sure how many countries the united states currently sanctions but

do you really think the united states might sanction turkey a nato ally turkey because it's now threatening turkey after it's obviously been threatening recently more venezuela are on iran one who knows who else it should look around in the past two or three years specialist two or three years america keeps doing contradictory things one that they say x. the next day they say why and i'm not sure anybody in washington has a central focus on what's going on mr trump doesn't seem to and then i don't know who else does your c.v. recently and the middle east they started attacking catchable capture as one of our largest met cherry bases and then the n.y.t. trump and the people in washington were badmouthing catch all right left and senate and finally somebody close to trump was that wait a minute you know one of our largest military bases there let's calm this down do you think ironically as well the american people seem to understand some of the.

things you've been saying for so many years because the word socialism is now in parlance and people like sun does talk about mass infrastructure projects probably a bit like china who knows as the only way to stop the kind of financial meltdown you've been predicting since twenty zero eight we're going to happen even though the central bank in america says we want and what i said is that the next one is going to be the worst in my lifetime i don't know when it's going to be i guess you should watch our team to find out when you know in two thousand and eight we had a problem because that too much debt well since then the deficit skyrocketed everywhere even china has a lot of debt now so no we're certainly going to have another one and it's going to be the worst in my lifetime now i know you are out there for all the big investors but we have here british steel going a bust in this country and so many of the names famous for the privatizations ever since the nine hundred eighty s. in this country mrs thatcher what would you suggest a government like britain's to do to begin that she lies in now ahead of any big

meltdown like the one you're talking about. no no national station it's never been good for anybody do you think the post office is a paragon of a fictious it you think you can you probably think that we have privatized the post office here i have to tell you it's just the united states you go national when we had one oh that's right they didn't profit does the post office they're so over the internet i don't know the middle is a go but every room is the british post office nearly privatized is also in front of trouble that maybe somebody should take it maybe they should take over the american post office and try to fix ours i was certainly not very efficient. nationalization in my view you know we tried socialism we tried comminges and we tried it many many places many many times it has not worked maybe it will work the next time we try it but human nature is such that it's not going to work while we are responding to this latest u.s.

google attack by saying they're going to start vertical integration in their own operating system some people saying soon relatively soon china will be able to supply its own market let alone the international markets do you see policymakers understanding what's going on in that part of the will that you invest so much in i will certainly say that sanctions have never worked they've always hurt people in the end for instance right now every morning russian farmers wake up and say thank you mr trump he put sanctions on russian farmers russian agriculture is booming booming because of the sanctions what i thought she was going to happen is the chinese are going to come self-sufficient in many things which means that many american companies are going to lose their markets you say that the chinese will not be able to produce everything well but i'm skeptical of that statement because they're billion three hundred million chinese they produce ten times as many engineers every year is american does some of the bad engineers somehow got to be

good so i'm i don't think this is going to rebound and. third america rather than helpless just finally thanks for the advert for r.t. but of course a lot of us of a t.n. around the world tend to blame george soros and i know you work closely with him what do you think about these attacks on single individuals instead of into structures when it comes to neo liberalism in the fight back against their liberalism first action which killed forty eight was forty years ago you might as well ask me about my first wife. was doing nor do i care but certainly most arguments amount hanumant never been good you know if you cannot come up with a logical rational argument on your own you start attacking people that's never been a good sign in fact when i was a kid in university we used to say if you start resorting to argumentum ad hominem that means you've lost it you lost the argument jim rogers thank you well as u.k.

media picks apart the results of the e.u. elections one thing is almost certain that the left wing case for brix it will not receive airtime on the likes of the british state mandated b.b.c. or channel four something that anger is the only kissed poet actor and writer benjamin zephaniah whose band the revolutionary minds is currently on to a bringing views ignored by the mainstream to people across the u.k. we met him at the premises studios in east london benjamin thanks for being on going underground again while we had the premises studio in east london and what is the revolutionary minds of the tour the album the track wow. truck. on the album i go through that by. the revolution of i think we need not necessarily one where people type of street and what i saw for the something different we need a bit of that mood about trying to get people to think differently i'm just convinced about the old way of doing stuff and just redundant the more you get up from going to point to people who are here to change you know money but you know

absolutely before you know i feel like i'm a kid. and that's the only way i can describe myself because i look at so many of the way people have tried and i think they're all letting us down in one way or another i mean got to find a new way i don't know what the name of it is i'm not telling people have devolved i'm just trying to say think outside the box you know what i show you had loki there's a drill minister must be following x. even mainstream stars like storms you're on this music too or i mean i turn on the b.b.c. and channel four in britain and they often have a debate about whether it's the music that's part of the problem as regards arguable economic violence austerities is the twenty weight crash music as far as i've seen as not my people on implied music has not put people into bad housing. music and not left kids on the street hungry music is not cause homelessness music is trying to reflect those feelings lisa jailing or suspended

sentences certainly for musicians drill music in south london that started in south london now international that's being blamed for the rise in syria's use drones i know. artists that through real music and what used to be cold rolled music and grime music and. a lot of them a very creative people but they live in a very hostile environment and they're just reflecting the reality and when i started creating music it was reggae music and we were talking about employer unemployment we talk about bubbling under system it was doing what it was doing to us that was our reality there's a wonderful. sorry for quoting it may seem stereotypical for a guy with dreadlocks to be quoted and of a guy who dreadlocks but it was an interview when somebody was interviewing bob marley and said you know why is your work so political and he just didn't understand the question i agree that it was the thing was just an honest because he just for i'm just writing about my reality on this writing about the way we live on

one thing about the way we saw from writing about the way we're policed you know i'm writing about the way colonialism is affecting me. you didn't sit down and go when i'm going to write political music i don't think you know i'm drew artist and i'm going to write really drill music to upset people and cause violence this is their reality more from the germans up in iran windrush wiki leaks in the left wing case fabrics that after the break as well as a performance from the band the revolutionary minds. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest on the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see that. the financial survival today was all about money laundering first to visit this

industry different. good that's a good start well we have our three banks all set up here maybe something in your something in america something overseas in the cayman islands and it will all these banks are complicit in their tough talker so you just have to get much gold say to do some serious money laundering ok let's see how we did while we got a nice luxury watch for max and for stacey beautiful jewelry and how about. luxury bill again from that you know what money laundering highly illegal thank you so much as a record. historically two of his opponents used to claim that there are three issues. to poor to bake and two if you still muslim the fact as we are too poor is no longer

correct because our per capita purchase parity is higher than some of the current deal member countries. you know world a big part of the lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks.

you're watching going underground in part two of our interview with anna kissed poet benjamin zephaniah at the premises studios in east london jimmy cliff was on this show around the time that also environment stories started to emerge and obviously he was suitably angry but since two. in may and the disgraced home secretary i think she will be burning of a leader is she went we've been having africa families on the show so here are people who are in their eighty's you never traveled abroad who people with threat of deportation going to funerals there are deaths in jamaica after

deportation i mean surprised earth going on to you you've been talking about issues to do with immigration and raises of longer does it surprise you in one thousand nine hundred three i pro one thousand nine hundred three joy gardner was killed she was killed by an organization called extradition squad that was a squad that used to go around and deport people she was in the house with her son and they came i'm going to quote my own poetry they put a lever belt around her furtive feet of type and bound handcuffs to secure her and only garden of ourselves she's illegal so reporters had the empire that brought her she died nobody killed and she never killed herself it is i would job to make return to jamaica so the alien the porters of the poor people like me the palms much longer than that i wrote that in nineteen ninety three you know this is being

going on for years i used to travel to jamaica and i remember once around the same time probably a bit early and eighties getting on a plane and behind me there was a woman in handcuffs and when she saw me to recognize me she screamed benjamin benjamin help me please help me and i said what's the problem today deporting me deported me i came to england when i was six months old they send him back to jamaica i don't know how to make a bribe help me help me and i got up. to sit and talk with the police us backed off sit down and all food affrighted to make out i could hear a cry and i just wouldn't let me go near her so we've known about this for years this is the twenty first century and later going on i don't know why you're so surprised no it doesn't surprise me. it's very sad that it doesn't surprise me but it doesn't surprise me not much has

changed and certainly when it comes to kind of. immigration there was no time when the home office is the home office said a stock we're going to have a look at this and. do something about it they've just been tweaking it and then the strange thing is that we can it in the wrong direction not creating an environment for these people to feel at home they're creating a hostile environment that's not a word that leveling of made up for in but i'll wager duraid i'm a yes we've just recently we've had five people killed in jamaica and i heard from another one does a couple of days ago after deportation yes after deportation and one guy that has gone back he came here while he was young but army had a driving offense and they sent him back and he said all these neighbors think is a rapist in a murder because some m.p. said we don't need reported rape is the murder of. and he and he's been deported on a driving offense i don't know about you but i have

a driver defense you know we get parking tickets all the time speeding tickets or department i don't you look so innocent i don't tell a driver. there's just been very big campaign about to change course islands maybe many people in britain don't know much about it. while either involved and what did you make of this court ruling that the british government seems to be ignoring that britain has to release h. imperial control of these islands in the pacific well first of all what you said is right every time i write or talk about these islands i get feedback from people saying never heard of it could destroy really have happened. that's why i talk about it it's outrageous what happened does ireland and when it comes to the british government in. the court's rulings well that shows you that when people talk about the rule of law that's fine until it's an inconvenience for

them and then they just ignore it especially when it comes to the child are silent because it's not really in the headlines i mean i think at the moment a lot of important things in british and international politics but i'm speaking from a british perspective and not in the headlines because we're so overwhelmed with bricks of and the government are going away with a lot of things because of that i mean if you go on question time i've been on a few times. and i brought that up they would tell me that it's not current news you know. it's not in the papers now so it would be shut down. so who decides what is current and was not current crazy feel the know this still should be an issue very much in the news or bricks it though is the main issue in this country land is there i mean you've been on the mainstream journals really bad is there that that one of the people that helped you through this was joni ben the late johnny byrne tell me

a bit about that about what really peddled you a break well tony benn was always until you and. and he i always say that he's the nearest thing i had to a political mentor because i could sit down with him for i was and he would talk to me about things i was trying to work out and he was always very open with me always say this is the way i see it you may see it another way and i remember him telling me about the and he always felt that it was distant undemocratic but also. this is something i feel a revolutionary. if i want to go and get my politicians. are not very far from here but the ones in europe are very far away and the scattered you know some of them in brussels some of them in front of them in a minute in paris you know. so deep down in my instinct was to kind of follow tony benn's example and to want to leave for if you like a left wing reasons the sad thing was that just wasn't part of the debate and then

when i saw the people i was getting in bed with and the reasons why vi were leaving they just didn't correspond with the reasons why i want to leave so you know i made it clear i voted to remain i mean the birth of a royal baby oh now you're not going to tell me that media seriously called you up to comment on the worth of oil where we in terms of its identity politics race imperialism context just some went when the baby was rather a day old well this is a very important moment in our history. no i look i'm just not interested in revolutionary minds don't give a damn when a baby in the palace is born i'm really not interested about what you think is going through the minds of the kinds of journalists that immediately think it could be a black baby uncle benjamin's of i don't i it's very difficult to get into the mind

of somebody think that there's some some journalist some media people who think about you know. benjamin's i phone i. can be andrew card. for these are the spokes people for the black community i mean they were trying to be we just we have our point of view and we create art and i pod or whatever and we have a point of view but we never claim to speak for the black community and we none of us are experts on black people but they seem to think we are you know i mean i've had worse things than that i had an interview to have a day where a lady kind of reached out to me different from benjamin tell me what is it like to be black i should remember that this is a critical how do you ok just i just that either of never being what i think judy has been belmarsh prison the so-called guantanamo of prisons in this country what

do you make of wiki leaks and. and situation where you're injuriously which you know i really don't know much about him. but as soon as i started to hear about his work suddenly kind of forward if i thought it would end this way the idea of somebody who says there's all this stuff that hidden from you and i'm going to show you it i'm going to give it to you left right and center. it's the kind of person i've always wanted to see you know what i've always i've always felt that there's so much that we just don't know about it and here's somebody to kind of put me in the public domain one thing that really upsets me is that we don't hear about all the stuff that they're putting out i sort of film of american soldiers shooting innocent people in the street you know this is big

news these are the kinds of things that the people of my country the people who were should know about these are the kind of thing that these people get up to there's a line of poetry and monitored one of my tracks on the album is called in this world and the line that you could apply to. we live in a world where people who expose corruption in illegal activities and governments become the ones who are persecuted and hunted down we live in a world where both of expose violations of the law of themselves violated by the law and i really think that's what's happening to him tell me about cool down because people are told whether privatization of stress being mental illness obviously there's a scary obviously there's a kind of revolutionary fervor on demonstrations uprisings what is called down about it's about young people and i got to say it was originally written about ten years ago it's about young people on the streets who were kind of killing themselves at my house and guns fighting because. this kind of post

cold war in the side case of a day where a kid is just sitting as i struck a station or a guy comes up to me says what ends are you from he didn't even answer him suspecting that he came from you know places shot him. i do think sometimes it is overblown in the media but i do know parent to have lost their children that way so for them it's a very serious thing i had to be a few notice a couple of weeks ago a very similar story. so it was a message to them i've always said that. in the kind of society we live in it's natural to be angry you know it's what you do. and when you just start killing your neighbors and your brothers and sisters you're directing it in the wrong y. front fernand wrote about ruth kind of sometimes when people contact type that the people that i read oppressing them they start to think i've put themselves and i think that's what's happening benjamin's and i thank you and now benjamin zephaniah

and the revolutionary minds with cooldown. you. could. feel like i was crying. thanking me. because of the drug trade cocoa. good luck. to both of. you. to egypt thank you. thank you.

thank you thank you. thank. you i said to. the people we hope to try to get. maybe folks before. me to. believe finds ways to. let. me just because you know.

facebook and google started with a great idea and great ideals unfortunately it was also a very dark side. they are constructing a profile of you and that profile is a real it's detailed and it never goes away turns out that google is manipulating your opinions from the very first character that you type into the search bar it

will always favor one dog food over another one comparative shopping service over another and one candidate over another they can suppress certain types of results on what they think you should be seeing if they have this kind of power then democracy is an illusion the free and fair election doesn't exist the more rope we give them the sooner we all. after the previous stage of my career was over. everyone wondered what i was going to do next the ball different clubs on one hand it is logical to sort of go from fields where everything is familiar on the other i want of a new challenge and a fresh perspective i'm used to surprising. or not so you think.

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