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i think it was back in 2015 when he managed to strike a call ition government i think 2 hours before the deadline but as you just pointed out back then he did not have to face his former allies like avigdor lieberman former defense minister playing saw intransigent plea is the latest deadlock really based on principles as mr lieberman claims or do you think it's more of a power struggle we're number one the last time that. you know we succeeded was in the middle of term at the time that there was already a government so this is an entirely different situation from a constitutional point of view than the situation no no to least majority vote in parliament to integrate these cabinet and the president i mean doesn't have it and as i said i
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think it's unlikely that he will be able to change it in the few always remaining. i mean it would be unfair to characterize the go for mr limbaugh as intransigent. mr liberal. is. traditionally been very very forthcoming. on the issue of the relations result of those community in the state of israel this was always part of his agenda i don't quite understand why it is supposed to be. a situation where everyone can. adjust himself to the needs of the prime minister there is no reason to expect lieberman to make compromises in order to help the prime.
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he has a full right to think from his long point of view that others should make compromises story just to him well i think to some extent mr netanyahu is now getting a taste of his own medicine because having courted far right and ultra orthodox jewish parties during the campaign he's now finding it very difficult as you sad to reconcile that demand doesn't it make you feel vindicated because you surely never liked his approach to politics did you number one i think. the present situation of prime minister and you know is indeed very difficult because behind everything on the knee of the current political confrontation varies the coming indictment of the prime minister and the possible conviction of the prime minister all major crimes according to the indictment that was raised by the attorney general so everyone understands that the time of the always
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indeed very limited and the. probability of the high probability is that at the end of the process sooner or later and most likely soon he will have to be indicted and that will change entirely the political situation now the way i look at it from my point of view is i must say i don't involve my personal emotions on these issues or the present time when i was for a minister i was accused i was indicted. happened many years before i became prime minister and it was quite obvious that this was a part of persecution by my political enemies trying to stop the progress of the peace process between us and the palestinians and the only way to do it was to try. somehow overthrow me which they unfortunately succeeded
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was you gotten everything that the. accused off and he's indicted for is what happened while he is prime minister there is the accusations against the misuse and abuse of his powers as prime minister for his own personal benefit so it's entirely different situation are i hope for him that he will be acquitted i certainly don't want to the prime minister of israel will be convicted but the situation. there he is facing now is entirely different than pepsi in some ways is a lot more syria use than what i had to face in the past so i don't feel in vindicated just because netanyahu is in trouble he's a you don't feel vindicated because of his troubles and yet i know that you hoped
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for his defeat the past elections in april but he somehow managed to defy your negative forecast he's margin of victory wasn't big but it was still a victory don't you think that he's likely to pull that again if snap elections are indeed held in september well i think it might be a little be overstating the outcome of the elections i wouldn't say that he won the elections you know what we see you know is the opposite of what one can say decisive victory the fact is that in the last elections the party of the prime minister. one or 2 of the 35 seats in the knesset precisely is the number of the opposition which won 35 seats on the knesset so in the camp of netanyahu i mean war was cold the rightwing bloke of the knesset has. last couple of
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seats in comparison to the past had they not closed maybe you wouldn't have had all these difficulties forming a coalition right now so i say that it was surprising considering the fact the prime minister is under the immediate threat of indictment and possibly conviction in court there he succeeded to have certain 5 seats in the knesset and in this respect it is certainly a considerable personal achievement for him but insufficient in terms of the overall political situation had. not. held. captive in his hands. because of the numbers of the seats. there wouldn't have been any crisis right now so
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what appeared to have been a big victory for netanyahu was not really a big victory i think it was quite clear from the outset and i say very publicly by the way they are actions that. depends entirely on. to the best of my acquaintance with both people and history of the relations i didn't rule out the possibility that. will not make the necessary. flexibility. in order to have that on the oh now let me ask you about another small victory well it may not be even a victory but the postponement of a trouble i'm talking about netanyahu is legal team managing to persuade the attorney general to perspire own his indictment hearing a tobar you've been very very critical of how an international and his legal team at handling all. all those corruption allegations but. that's when the decision by
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attorney general proved that at least they had the legal point number one i have nothing. against. legal situation by an attorney or his attorneys personally but he accused him of intimidating a foreign force meant agencies publicly that's something that's something that doesn't have to do with his attorneys this is something that he is doing himself and this is something that he's still attempting i mean the fact that he wants to change the immunity low over to blow. the ability of the supreme court to. intervene the. legislative process of. all an attempt to try and save him from the need to face the court cases and in fact one can say that the. elections which took place in. precisely for one reason and this is the
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fact that he wanted to take measures in order to prevent the indictment in court so the postponement of the hearing is. within reason. and i don't think that. this is not have victory not a defeat this is just a technical decision. by the attorney general which has nothing to do was any legal. it's only i think an attempt by the attorney general to make every possible effort so that the perception of the process. would be that he has given all the possible options to defend himself now if you yourself i'm no stranger to. prosecution or persecution you serve time in prison on
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charges you never admitted to in fact you called yourself a victim often justice if the system was capable of inflicting injustice on your surely it can be misused again why you're investing so much trast in the law enforcement agency speech you say i have mistreated you to remember why i think as i said before the comparison between my. experience. and that of the 10 you know. entirely. based on the misperception. everything that was sayed against me or done against me was. against things that happened many years before i became prime minister the intensity very different. has asians there are
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hundreds of pages of documents of indictments against you know of an entirely different caliber volume in comparison to mine now the fact is that it's been investigated for more than 3 years very long time they are there any general was. distant in the past therefore there is no reason to assume that there was any attempt to try and persecute him on the basis of any reasonable. excuse i think that the in my court case not only i think i think i think it's now common knowledge and by lots of people and little experts the court made a mistake in most cases in most of the cases allegations against me i was acquitted . there was one thing that i was indicted. a convicted for which most people think
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he was a mistake but then mistakes can have parallel that's wait and see what the cold case would say about an attorney by. the effect that courts can be mistaken doesn't mean that you're someone easy invited you shouldn't stand to quote only because there is a possibility that the cold will be a mistake well prime minister we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. this
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nobody could see coming that false confessions would be in the spot the wish to form for. any interrogations out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat lie a lie a lie the process of interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind make the most comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials she said before we. sat on a statement that i would be home by that time the next day there's a culture on accountability and police officers know that they can engage in misconduct that has nothing to do with all the.
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welcome back to both of our the with former prime minister of israel ehud olmert prime minister it's difficult not to compare these really politics to the american one there are just too many similarities including the the style of the 2 leaders benjamin netanyahu has always been a pretty colorful politician but he seems to have last inhibitions ever since donald trump moved into the white house do you think it's just a personality thing the chemistry between the 2 men or do you think that. consciously tries to mirror trying to get some political or geo political favors you're wondering to assume for the sake of answering you soon that mr trump he's. uninhibited and no you want me to with. the. attitude of that's when you know he's a result of the influence of trying i'm not trying to attach today any negative connotations but he's quite there remarkable politician you will have to give it
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give it to me i mean he's paralleled in many ways and i think most people around the world they grieve about that he's exceptional in his own ways and i think mr netanyahu surprisingly east coping many of them i don't think they have any commitment to accept the judgment of what is described by you as the majority of the people in the world i don't know the president is a very unusual person there's no question about it and i think he's very. different person from most other state i can recall and i knew many of them personally over the last 40 years i was president reagan and bush signori and jimmy carter and of course present. george bush jr or. president obama and any no one of them was in any way similar
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to trump trump is different he's much more outspoken forthcoming and there is a maybe i mean he did in many ways with a it's good or bad. for anyone to personally decide i find him an interesting president and someone that has to be watched very carefully and i think with a lot of care before we make up our mind that he's not. a good president for many americans i think he's a perfect president and there are many of americans who admire his style and he's everything he's expressions and he's of invasions in public on some matters do you think president prime minister netanyahu has watched his behavior and has changed the style of politics in any way being under the influence of trump number one i say that the perception of is that he's different and it's probably true that
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he's different i don't those who say that he's in my mind you certainly know negative and i have enormous respect for anyone who is elected democratically president of the united states of america and i can only salute him and we him to be successful he certainly is a good friend of the state of israel and there's such i have and always respect for him but i don't think that in you know is similar to him i think that they're entirely different people i don't think you know is influenced by. by trying. i'm not certain that i want to say everything that they think about anything you know now you've been surprisingly a bit the by. the trump ministrations israeli palestinian peace plan and i think your whole argument comes down to mr trump's than it if you he wants a place in his syria which means he's going to work hard for it do you think though
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that mr trump and he's team have the competence the skill fabby historical perspective for working out the details of a deal to reach has eluded so many pretty ambitious people before him who. is i think well known and they're widely recognized it. was very close to conclude a deal with the palestinians. who the boss the president of a senior 40 were that close that they're close this is what he once how he described the closeness of our understanding and their i subscribe to this is very close. almost almost agreed on everything and unfortunately the very last moment he elected perhaps the courage to just may go a step. no i am very encouraged and. quite cure use
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by the. by the commitment that president trump has to achieve what he calls the deal of a century. because much as i don't know trump personally i never worked with him but my my perception of his behavior. as public behavior as president is that he is a men who hates to fail he hates to be seen failing and he's prepared to call a play and the deal of a century and he's ready to go to go forward so forcefully a political plane you'd means that he has a very strong commitment and that he takes it very seriously now. whether he or he can or can't go into all the different complexities and peculiarities of this process and you know relates to all the sensitive issues that ought to be part of
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such an agreement i really don't know i don't think that it's only is going to team of people and some of them are. experienced in the process has been in the past some of them are quite new interim reins to be seen unfortunately i'm really not familiar with the details of what he has proposed to be able to pass any judgment or to offer any forecast about. the chances of this plan to be successful the few details that we that have been leaked about this deal so far suggest that the trump team favors economic incentives for the palestinians in exchange for political concessions just how much do you think trauma needs to all for it to the palestinians for them to be able to buy into his promises do you think it can all make agenda is really the most important one for the palestinians
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again as i said i don't know enough and i'm not sure that this would be wise on my behalf to offer judgment just a partial exposure of some of the details but what they can say is these i know exactly what needs to be done in order to achieve peace between us and the palestinians and this is to really offer what i have proposed to the palestinians i think the only plan which can be accepted and one day will be the peace there will be signed between israel and the palestinians is what i proposed and i am quite certain that had it been proposed today to abu mazin. you know we some fine tuning . have led to an agreement. so what needs to be the plan i know this is the only plane and if you will inquire. and wheezes people they will no hesitate privately at least to admit that this is true well from what i
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know the palestinians haven't rejected continuing with the 2008 framework which you refer to as the olmert deal but these really position has moved quite a bit prime minister netanyahu not only opposes it he does everything possible i think to bury the whole 2 state framework do the facts on the ground that he's create that the expansion of the settlements the force dislocation of the palestinians does it all leave any space for of viable palestinian state again. there will never never be peace unless there will be a palestinian state there will never be. risin of hope for the state of israel without a palestinian state so i absolutely absolutely i'm determined that this is the only power to go through and i think there. will have to come to terms with itself
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sooner than later in order to an understand that this is the only way to go what you said before it's true that the palestinians never said no to my plan they never said no to my plan i repeated the one who. never said yes but at the same time he never said no and he keeps saying all the time i never said no which means that implicitly at least he doesn't reject the option that he will one say yes to something that he said he never said no to no the economic incentives may be an important ingredient but without a political framework of nature that i've proposed in 2008 there will be no agreement and no. only that there will not be an agreement but all those that hope they're the moderate countries the emirates the saudis the egyptians they don't think. will somehow cooperate we something that basic they wreck
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of a 2 state solution is mistaken none of the countries will come forward unless there will be a proposed solution on the basis of 2 states there is my absolute conviction and also. i hear from talking to some of us over the last couple of months well prime minister we have to leave it there thank you very much for being with us today and sharing your perspective i really appreciate that thank you very much i might have yours to keep this conversation going in our social media pages at. the same place same time here on worlds apart.
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in the state puts in the surveillance. in. our present day for well 19 eighty-four dystopian nightmare we put in the us we install the cameras on the nest cameras in our doors and our mantle pieces and spying devices in our hands and in our homes with another of these mass surveillance technologies that's the difference between orwell and today it is the worst nightmares would never think that we would imprison our. after the previous stage of my career was over everyone wondered what i was going to do next that multiple different clubs on one hand it is logical to sit in the
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home field where everything is familiar on the other i wanted a new challenge and a fresh perspective i'm used to surprising people and i saw one all typical. i'm going to talk about football not be or else you can think i was going to go. by the way what is it that slide here. because the slowness of the blue of them so moving. to build your local was before. much of those who heard it's a preview live with you who do so soon we will. we will. move the folk move but it. will show you the stupid you will for the media collector
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case closed all sides got something for a special counsel. on the trump russian collusion report. also the headlines today is somalia a safer place than london while increasing numbers of the somali community in britain seem to think so parents have been sending their children to africa to avoid crime. but they feel for the safety of children they feel safe it's. themselves it's very dangerous for. israel's parliament votes to dissolve itself triggering fresh elections in september prime minister benjamin netanyahu missed the deadline to form a coalition government last night the 1st time the situation's played out in israel .

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