that breck that party big deal was having an impact their prime minister was gone or at least growing and the opposition labor party were also licking their wings alex speaks to independent m.e.p. and exit campaigner stephen prove yes or no stephen love joins me from brussels stephen you'll be celebrating the success of the blacks the past year how much would you say that's due to the popular feeling about the failure of westminster to lead the break that another highly have much to do to the personality of nigel for i think there's a combination of both the british people aren't stupid they are very angry and upset pretty ticked by in the north of england the middle and in wales where you saw increasing votes but surprisingly also in the southwest of england and in london and of course you need to have somebody that they can fix on someone with a personality a character and has a very clear message and there's no one better in the political business in britain

at the moment that nigel farage in expressing the single message democracy is failing the brits is not there give us their full vote for the brics it party and it's worked once again now you're trying well and truly parked in the westminster lot and what sure are message to the m.p.'s at westminster as they look again the blacks that legislation under the new prime minister i think many of them both on the labor left and in the conservative party will be self interested they'll be looking at their own seats if you're a labor m.p. in the north of england that have now seen your seats lost in council elections and the numbers of people voting for the party then you'll be worried that if you don't deliver bricks it which is a no deal breaker as most people want they will lose their seats in the next general election if you're a conservative m.p. then you'll know that you're. be out of power for

a generation so they've got some really hard thinking to do and they react against the next prime minister the next conservative leader i think must just be very tough and say let's go for broke see it with no deal let's get rid of the withdrawal agreement and dare any m.p. to challenge them on the other side doesn't list success of the past the cause is all in difficulties in terms of u.k. politics if you look at them up after the european elections them south hadley just about all of england bar london is color of the blacks are these light blue but the map of scotland this entirely the s.n.p. is yellow haven't you instigated the division of the u.k. as you're trying to get the u.k. out of europe now i think the division in the u.k. has always been there with the s.n.p. and look i've argued in the past it's a perfectly acceptable argument and political debate for the s.n.p. to say we wish to be an independent nation and i have no problems with that but i

do believe that there is a number of people in scotland and that's why you saw again them winning a seat there with an increased number of votes i believe that want to remain part of the union but also leave the european union so i don't think the divisions were called for bracks it they're just giving a voice to those people that want to leave the european union and stay in the union and i think that's quite legitimate. if i can to end with a personal question you're leaving brussels as a an m.e.p. of your own site set now in the westminster seat i've always said that i didn't want to stand in this european election that i felt that the next phase of the libertarian freedom movement bringing democracy back to the people would be in national elections i'd love to stand in a sea i'd like to take on one of those labor m.p.'s in a leave area that has voted to remain and i would like those people that have a voice that backs them their vision and i hope to do so with the brics it party i

am a registered supporter but of course there are many talented people out there and i would have to fight for my seat just like everybody else stephen moore from brussels thank you very much indeed thank you. so the brakes at party breakthrough was the final straw for to me but labor were also on the receiving end of an intellectual drubbing however safely back on top of the london left with claude murphy's alex spoke to him about lessons from the election and who are now for labor. reelected for a 5th term in the european parliament congratulations but your party a labor took a bit of a drubbing what was the key reason for the no we did we go we got a kicking and i think the key reason was we are one of the big parties part of the government but also we were squeezed squeezed by the lib dems in the main parties because we were at a policy of trying to unite. the country the whole issue of confirmation of the

vote but that was seen as you know trying to hedge or sequence and i actually believe in the end labor will be a key part of getting to a confirmation vote and you can see that our front bench are saying that now but clearly within the election that was one of the factors that that really lost as some of our m.e.p. . the lead london member of the shift to a referendum on confirmation for a 2nd ballot is a pretty nice simple calculation makes obvious politics but what so euer m m p m one of the levy areas of the north of england would marcus be quite simple this is why i think we had the policy of uniting the country we've got these leave areas leave m.p.'s these kind of voices but i think in the end alex we're going to have to come in off the fence on to one kind of policy because the existential crisis

for october 31st is a no deal with the hard right conservative prime minister potentially and to stop this and to create the situation for the people we represent i really believe that we have to emphasize know the remain. kind of confirmation vote aspect i know that that is not a perfect situation i know that will be risky for some of our remain supporters but i do believe this is the direction of travel and that's what i support. with the risks inherent in the so got the 4 hours' time parked on the lawn outside the house of commons the tory party convulsed by a leadership election but there were parties convulsed as well i mean was this the right time to be expelling ost of campbell yeah i mean those are our rules but you're right it's about the interpretation of the rules been around the party a long time he did say this after the polls were closed was that the right thing to

do i mean answers right to appeal this because other they were party members will have done this but did they leave a paper trail did they actually see it publicly so he left himself only bow but i think there will be a lot of people sympathetic not necessarily supporters of his by the way but just labor party members. because they may have done the same do i support him doing that no i don't because obviously i lost many colleagues by people voting lib dems i mean that very clear and we have our rules but there is something there you know and i guess you know he has to appeal this now let's look upon your appeal you're one of the most distinguished trails of a key european committee but both the center right under the center left took a bit of a gun to me elections are going after things a school or rule orders before them or the european parliament or are we going to be other voices in key decision making i think a reality check alex was that it wasn't

a sweep for the populace parties that we had feared it wasn't you know a complete kicking for that for the center the center did hold and that is gratifying be complacent about it but of course the center reduced to see these big parties the european people's party my social sin democrats and that is a huge warning signal but what you call is a real fragmentation massive increase in the greens massive increase far left of course increasing to so. what we have to do with that is is not stand around and go to figure out how to deal with this report was it is quite something i mean it's not easy to respond to the things that he was my creation and so on making the positive case is not enough i mean this is people reacting very strongly sometimes sometimes not in the way that you think it's a proxy things sometimes so you know we have to be on our game and yes we took

a kicking but it's not quite this week people thought and when you see the confusion around to europe even. english politics you were hunkered to be back home and scott represents a more prove european country i mean i loved growing up in scotland doesn't surprise me. the temperature in the pro european nature of i was scott's lawyer it was the old alliance but i did my scottish law we never saw it as anything other as a link with internationalism and the rest of the it doesn't surprise me this got in the stake in this this pro european internationalist view and you know that's the essence of our loved growing up there and you know i take that as part of my my make up no. i want that for everyone i want not to nevada shit for everyone i'm an internationalist alex you know and you have to keep fighting the previous question you asked me about it is all of this inevitable you know in denmark that is people's party were it in finland they expect to the far right to to succeed but

they didn't the greens did politics is they are of what is possible and we have to keep fighting for internationalist and progressive ideals so it's doable. to go examine quickly if you. don't have to tell a dog boy what to do with us that's for child someone guess that we know how to use this thank you very much thanks alex. and so both tory and labor have been left in degrees of the theory. but what of the other parties doesn't let dems performance signal out of viable of the center or does it clips of the takers or independent group or change you k. i actually killed realignment still in dead i want to scotland i do indeed island join us after the break to fight.

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welcome back the only 80 of the mainland where the bricks a party did not to begin to pull with scotland where the s.n.p. still reign supreme but even in scotland the breaks apart to claim 2nd place and a seat i don't expect to senior s.n.p. m.p. i guess macneil on how scotland should despond to brics its party england. i guess i was expecting a hebridean but coffee kitchen was why i was sent over the wife i and the mossad i think it's an r.t.s. and markets its existence even if they were just as out of the gorgeous kits and meanwhile we'll have to make do but he must be pretty chuffed i'm in the whole mop of scotland this color of yellow after of the european elections i'm to hear from bala to the barber so you must be feeling pretty hopping about the utah election results yeah results went really well for the s.n.p.

a bigger seat of the vote of any party in western europe it's far suspect more of the 1st minister notes and then she was going to put legislation it's going to follow and it's only a bit of a side note how the independents kept it and move on but look i guess what neil the s.n.p. seem to be in tessa painting that a bonus johnson premiership would boost the support for the independents but what happens if he becomes prime minister and comes out to be a success or alternatively the totus might choose someone else once again back and planet earth and their prospect of a body has been a success and the real prospects of the probabilities are going to examine it in that they had links seeding you know the door and ireland on into the custody into the single market which is definitely wedded to so ultimately the tories have got a bottom line problem regardless who is among us what's going to be damaging for scotland is that fanaticism that is a root of the 2 of the party that fun to see that other that's pushing them on at

the moment and not a slight we have to get on with it we know which direction they want to go i'm going to which direction we want to go there are 2 different directions so then we're there we ate less but as you know well i'm just mean new politics is always changing journey corben could shift towards a people's vote the tory party other lead to get a new leader you don't expect the westminster bacilli to continue indefinitely whatever happens and west is that of course and i don't. should be a secondary market we've got to get on with a lot of us puppets has ended i have to 2nd an appendix that i don't know as a mom it's be elected on some i don't know the scottish parliament was the greens as a result for a lot less going on this big the argument to the people let's not be x. rayed to lead because we need us we saw the last time we put on 17 percent and the polls on at this time would only need to but i won't do it the percentage on will when i think things will continue to muddle on as they've beaten the lot for the fight months their hope to get through october to get another sticking plaster

there will waste the time but don't force one of them not to waste and yes i think it's going to be more muddled to say i'm confusions and westminster given all the states as you've mentioned they have one of the i guess mcneil from his kitchen in the beautiful island the bought a thank you very much like you know like their pleasure planted by night to another celtic nation what to the south and northern island to tell us about the feet off the province out fast by my s.-t. o.-p. leader alice to macdonald. i will start some entrusting results on northern ireland to take of this breakthrough of the center ground alliance potty well there's been certainly a lot of big excitement here and really this them or for local government elections there's the prophet muhammad northern ireland is the lack of the assembly and the generous declaration of a large takes as as basic good busy and people to be prepared deeply frustrated and

this is particularly so liberal or a commonsense age of unionism and while a lot of you know some of us drifting towards that the u.p.a. on the extremes is that shelob of a cause to save and to give up in europe for you know sir aren't real and sparty asta and the absence of the assembly how does the dialogue between and among these take place and northern ireland well they are missions of the assembly there is very little dialogue taking place in the business community to make an effort to try and create dialogue and various other civic arts or society try to create dialogue. you know that the failure of the storm and the failure of various embley as it is a problem and how that that the change in tony prime minister at westminster is not likely to be good or bad for nonviolent could that help end the stalemate in the assembly i don't think the change of the leader of the conservative party will make

any difference to. northern ireland doesn't create fairly increasingly isolated and ignored by westminster uncertainty the whole breck's of discussions of being rather the insensitive to northern ireland the northern ireland fades so changing the leader of the conservative party is still going to change the game there are the challenges that we face and then these changes that you see from these elections nor fun saif do you see the and greedy and sofa of movement. of the political undergrowth and the island the 5 of them but i think that you know the bricks it a screw it a space on the island or a bit where basically people realise nice income quite ever be the same again on the whole shop the bracks of the whole or implications of that and whether we go through with brass of our whether we are

a tree from up to there the scene has changed to change to hurley well i'll leave you with that resident quote from my viciously alice the thank you very much indeed thank you. so to make sense of this extraordinary election i'm delighted to be joined by former liberal m.p. lembit opec lead former liberal presidential candidate so what are we to make of this i mean for a start with that the big winners the blacks that party led by for large the liberal democrat should all party and the greens also have a good election how does things stand for these tea parties strategically what happened was polarization if you had a clear narrative you did well if you had a weak narrative you did badly brax that party the clues in the name if you want a brac set that's where you go and around 30 percent of the country did that on the other side as you say the lib dems and to a slightly lesser extent the greens said we are the remain party there wasn't any ambiguity about it and they polled

a similar proportion of the vote if you are the 2 together for the actual 4 hours benefit from having normal affairs still but the liberals benefited by putting rude words on their mother 1st very controversial how they put those words forward but it doesn't seem to harm them because of a theological debate about whether they've done even better if they hadn't resorted to bad language but the big picture here is bracks on the one side remain as on the other hand they both made profound gains 29 seats for a party was didn't even exist a couple of months ago in the bracks it's case and from one to 16 for the lib dems and 3 to 7 for greens now.