added but what we've shown today is that no one is above the law julian assange is no hero but jeremy corbin's labor shadow home secretary diane abbott beg to differ the reason we are basing this this afternoon is entirely to do with the whistle blowing activities. in the case it is this whistle blowing activity into illegal move mass murder murder of civilians and corruption or a grand scale that has put judy in a song in the cross has of the us that ministration been another contender for tourism a's job diane abbott's counterpart in government said this after the arguable washington proxy of ecuador violated asylum article 14 of the universal declaration of human rights catalyzing songes capture ecuador's actions recognized that the u.k. criminal justice system is one of it which rights are protected i mean which contrary to what mr santelli supporters may claim he and his legitimacy interests

will be protected but are julian assange his interests being protected by the british justice system in the past few days we understand the wiki leaks founder was moved to the president firmer e of britain's belmarsh prison in southeast london and joining me now via skype from geneva is someone who has visited the sangean jail the united nations special rapporteur on torture and other cruel inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment professor niels meltzer thanks for coming back on now i know the findings have been published in the past 24 hours at least the preliminary findings i know the full report will be out in july. did you how did you make such a statement like in 20 years of work with victims of war violence or political persecution you've never seen. what you saw. nor would likely work. by those. forms violence. would be much. bloody in

a sense than what we are talking about here but what happens levy shocked me that this particular case is that a single individual has been isolated and singled out by several democratic states and persecuted systematically and in the state manner to the point of breaking and of course there's a lot of focus here about the mainstream media and politicians presumably judges that this is really a sex crime case in sweden generally think we should we should be aware more of the fact that the crown prosecution service under the shadow brecht's effect because saddam a appeared to beg swedish authorities to prosecute assad's for sex crimes or the swedish authorities didn't want to yes i have looked into these allegations and already there's a reasonable to me how shoulder from the beginning actually cooperated with the

swedish police and tried to keep himself beautiful for questioning and to help results case and actually after a few days the case was closed by the prosecutor saying that there was no evidence that it crime has been cruel or all and he was explicitly allowed to leave the country that a few days later a different prosecutor takes up just case again. you know issues and arrest warrants and then from that consistently refuse to intrude butu innocence from sweden through sky or conference and or when afterwards when he was in the end to see to visit him there for many years he that was refused without any cards at the same time sweden the tatars these types of question eggs across borders in many other cases so there was no reason not to do that. so what we can see is really consistently that descriptions already have spread a rape suspect never. it suggests the violent crime that does not correspond to be

allegations that were actually made by the complainants and and the prosecutor dees these disparate luminary investigation in a way did julian assange to defend himself it affected way less he exposed himself to a much greater risk of being. extradited to the united states and the related risk for serious rights eventually swedish prosecution is into london but by then of course he had sought asylum in the ecuadorian embassy do you see that this narrative the the women involved in those original allegations dropping the allegations at one point and then the case resuming do you see all of this as judicial harassment in contributing to what you say in the press release for your report to cruel and degrading treatment oh absolutely i mean the whole episode of

julian assange. holed up in that it was he was because of the swedish absolution requests and not because he wanted to escape extradition to sweden but because the swedish the same. fuse to guarantee it would not you know extradited for the united states very weak evidence actually nonexistent against that service to keep your innocence arbitrarily confined in genesee for many years and also triggered the criminal prosecution for bill by omission into u.k. for which he's not being detained in the wash since the u.n. tend to belmarsh refer to medical experts specializing in the examination of potential torture victims past hamilton a swedish lawyer told reuters that it's not possible to conduct a normal conversation with truly innocent how did you find him while there is obviously a patient doctor confidentiality that i can. not rich but what i can say that.

julie sunshine physical consequences clearly from not being able to access a little in medical care for several years the physical consequences have been addressed adequately at least the most fertile aspects of it by a prison health care service the much more serious aspect is how he has been mentally and emotionally affected by the extremely hostile and increasingly arbitrary and byron she has been exposed to for several years so here he really showed all the symptoms that are typical for a person that has been exposed to prolong psychological torture and i'm not saying this is an emotional. worth but prisoners political prisoners prisoners of war for 20 years and but what we do in these cases we counter the doctors and psychiatrists the the center for cultural call which is designed to examine potential victims of

torture and all treatment and severely i write these standards and it was the evidence was will readily clear that julian assange had been exposed to several. forms of cruel inhuman or degrading treatment which should militarily can only be described. back to the judicial elements of this and i think so i'm sure your department probably is aware the british foreign secret service has been implicated in torture many times before what do you make of the original arrest warrant judge i am a buff and author upheld it and she came under scrutiny because her husband's co directors of a security company included the former head of m i 6 a case of justice not being seen to be done also presumably contributing to that psychological torture to his hands is currently suffering from certainly all these aspects all these multiple and complex proceedings are very seriously she. ns

clearly contributes to intense stress and anxiety in capacity of preparing a reasonable defense because he doesn't have enough access to documents and to go to lawyers where years i have heard about these allegations of conflict of interests and i cannot assert. the accuracy of these allegations obviously but what i want it will land are standing is that the defense counsel julian assange made a convention at the court hearing and raising these complaints to the judge upset and judge seems to have just kind of brushed his allegations off the table and not and. but then that reaction is my understand he accused julian assange of being a narcissus which comes across as you know likely said very unprofessional to me if not if not more clearly biased sorry you just mentioned the legal documents

presumably he is getting these legal documents we just heard the secretary's adage of it when saying when i was captured by british authorities from the ecuadorian embassy that he is now protected by british justice he is getting legal documents right did he tell you that you should probably talk to his lawyers to have the precise information or standing it is that he does not have sufficient access to use case files that he is not able to exchange documents. that has lawyers certainly not him in it in the in the way it is required in view of the complexity and the multiple of layers of these proceedings are now against him so that certainly there's a me a factor that has to has rested her head and where he simply cannot cope with the all the demands of these proceedings now human rights law requires the defendant to get enough time to prepare as the fence. commensurate with be. the complexity of

these proceedings and that is not the case to show that during such ok will you directly accuse the u.k. government of creating an atmosphere of impunity encouraging uninhibited vilification and abuse what happens if it continues to do that and what can actually the un do to mitigate the alleged persecution of persecution you allege that british authorities not only british authorities but other governments as well are involved in this case to thank the authorities of of the british authorities would be to allow only the allowed me to access mr sunshine truckie conductress assessment but what i found is really profoundly shocking because we can see that we here have you know state democratic traditions the rule of law traditions that are really isolating just one individual and preventing him from exercising his most basic process to all rights presumption of innocence and prettier than

adequate defense could it of course some people might argue or be just a case of incompetence a big mistake or is there intentionality in this psychological torture in the forms of cruel inhuman and degrading treatment and punishment you outline. to be it is almost inconceivable that we have so many lawyers so profoundly these you buy just the steps and the judicial proceedings that could just be you know a coincidence to me it all speech to a scenario where you have the united states wanting to make an example out of jordan a subject for explosion or she has made it through regular leaks and that has been profoundly a bit embarrassing for united states and that you know the swedish proceedings army are not be conducted in good faith but really abused judicial proceedings in order . facilitate. the way to the wall it's all just proceedings.

very much so that's more of a job professor niels melts i thank you but. after the break the ecuadorian president who 1st gave asylum to geneva sondra failed correia calls what is happening to the wiki leaks founder a crime against humanity its own civil coming up about to it going underground. you know world of big partisan movies lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle

for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. this in petersburg international economic forum is a unique event in today's business world. over the last 21 years the forum has become a leading global platform for discussing the keys economic issues facing russia emerging markets and the world thousands of business community members attend a forum to address today's vital issues. or just national forum coverage on r.t. . welcome back in the 1st half of the program we heard from the un special rapporteur on torture professor who detailed his allegations of the british torture of julian assange joining me now from brussels is former ecuadorian president rafael correa

who 1st granted asylum to us and fearing that he would be subjected to the kind of treatment outlined in part one of this program former president thanks so much for being on the program have you spoken 1st of all to your successor lennon merino about julian a songes life now being at risk. and i will not talk to my successor because it's very or butter he won with now where a political program people vote in order to continue to see this in revolution political program and this political ploy are brought into that their protection for dinner not so much but let the merino was a kind of protege you appointed him vice president yes but he was a 3rd term in and had invited u.k. police into ecuador's london embassy i was horrified i am neal julian julian assange is what's going on then a long time ago because they had more n o tried to negotiate with him one week

after taking office you know he received a nice little old money for their farm air campaign chief of term now in jail in the united states because of corruption and he offered to manage for and to the american government to be a leader a union hasn't but the american government can support him financially so we knew that angel emerson's was condemned that we never imagined that there will be so brutal for instance allowing british police to entering our embassy that this against the vienna convention and that is against international lol the in the american human rights convention julian a sense in right. of it all especially those against the. introduce yourself say look we force the most important part of the asylum east to protect their little g.'s strong people to suing him not

to the lever. and that is certainly what development of more are not as modern us government has done and that is against also. our constitution article 4 p. one especially these articles since that is their content and not believe or i repeat. a person that has been granted i would assume you just said something about donald trump's former campaign manager paul manifold the british guardian newspaper who used which used to be a partner to wiki leaks said the man afford to met with julian assange earns in london for the job was a like no other the work was not true i don't know but because i have never met the jeweler has i i don't know you have managed. to down

a sense that we can lease said that was i like lenin marina says he has had assurances that julian a songe will not be executed for coming and he's a liar but. let's assume that that is true by whether well they are their human rights for instance to have fair trial it's not possible under this condition to have a fair trial in the united states if you learn a sign she says today that to the united states he kiesel is already content he will not have a. fair terror targets that in marino and the ecuadorian government released pictures of julian a songe they said that he behaved in an impolite way the media here in britain laughed at him the were the grounds. that marino says that under which ecuador continues to for fairly international legal obligations even by delivering

him to british authorities don't you believe can you imagine to release it because he's impolite curve. more in a more look for where there used to fit geisha in order to explain to a war until he story whether he has done that history what really terrible but of course you cut off julian assange is into that access when you were president yes because he was interfering in interstate elections and that being hillary clinton for the reason we were on him you have to stop he continued ok we stop the internet service but after that after a while after the election really internet is worse install yet who told you that he was interfering with the 2016 us presidential election well that was clearly the attacks against hillary clinton and

a justification was not that these 2 ok perhaps these 2 but some also has several truth he he didn't say anything about donald trump so that was very unfair of course donald trump but then went on to win the election what does lenin merino have to gain for ecuador for himself by as you say violating the 1951 refugee convention when he submitted to the american government absolutely not just because of the case of julius arch because of that even with the i.m.f. because of the new military support of the united states and by a lot everything a against our constitution everything against our political program that is. it was a wiener in the last election but he has had elections so he's returned his betraying quote on people he's reiterating

a. he's probably going to broaden he's been saying everything he's absolutely submitted to the american interest american government interests that in marino says it is your economic mismanagement that means why he that is the reason behind the new austerity program in the ecuador and it's not the capture of julian as connected to the i.m.f. agreement that's just taken place he had to see something come out even though they messed it in 2000 cementing said it on economy was very much of that he had he has to say something or it took to try to justify the trial to you not sosh but also let me tell you to accord him people we are experts in i.m.f. adjustment programs i just meant all weeks they have being a failure absolutely failed so to continue with all these kind of things is not

because they are looking for the welfare of the contour well for their people not they're looking for something that it's for farming interest and so you really think there could have been a deal for julian a songe over the i.m.f. agreement yes yes i think he's related of course you know the very well the. united states have little capacity inside the i.m.f. so in order to receive their financial support from the i.m.f. well doing it by the government most. it was half the approval of the a major government and of course julian assange it's not just that but you in the sense case is related to financial support from the i.m.f. and the cia base that many of the bill of of course of course everything everything there are dong they don't have a base now because it is not necessary with the technological advances they need

just. an expensive aircraft is in a quandary now and has been selected after they have a we have now in a boat a lot of military personnel from the united states is enough with that other white base will be there already but they will meet any more a military base in just the same crash we that military person what about the eye and they papers you may have to explain you think they're linked also to the julian assange capture so we have discovered that mourinho is a corrupt and that we are not imagining that we have even a secret account that he has the american support of the media support economic is supporting it or so everybody welcome to the police and out powers are protecting

this but the case is so extremely clear he's huge. perhaps the biggest corruption case involving our president i think britain so we have even the 2nd account with money laundering and it could account financing really looks really good looks are a lie for a bit more than a slimy on good sense of court and this is the count i can tell you that count struck. by the bar band and i'ma ok let in marina denies the allegations tell me what happened when you tried to draw attention to this on your facebook account including that number which we will be bout this same day when julian assange is was kicked out he get out of our embassy my family bitch face will frumpish was look i came without any warning without any explanation without any information

during 2 months i have tried to to get back my son base and finally is a minister telling me that is he this is him it's this season is our final decision they will not open again my foundation i don't want the same day with. him there you learn a science case happened in that whether he was in london we'll try and get a comment from facebook do it lisa act the us do it and it's going to be. well do you expect that in marino now to support the united states and the european union in their support for one guy though in the attempts currently going on to overthrow the venezuelan government. what's he's doing that had told really come out. he's been saying everything you know i got into our political program through here

is can i just way go. i love playing old soul he's against venezuela against my who took or so for things of course a very close ally of the european union and the united states of course led in marino has signed up to china's belton road what role do you think china will have because wiki leaks and julian assange is exposed to washington interference in the americas but i can tell you that is that there is a geopolitical war between the united states and china and latin america and region is in the middle of the battlefield they are fighting for latin america's place in the united states they cannot play it allowed the influence the chinese influence in their region so they are pursuing any is that you know maybe their governments

that are going to have close relationships with it china and finally do you believe julie innocence will be extradited to the united states. i am almost sure i hope to be wrong i hope to be mistaken but i am. former president rafael correa thank you and that's it for the show will be back on monday for when donald trump comes to britain to meet the queen and maybe nigel farage until then keep in touch by social media we'll leave you with german born british socialist walter wolfgang defending jeremy corbyn and former london mack and livingston against charges of anti-semitism it was he who famously protested tony blair's iraq war at labor's 2005 conference in brighton and he passed away this week at the age of 95. who have no proof there were no you're. going to hold a new will. this horrible moment here learned. that

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