any military aged male in a strike zone must be a combatant technique of counting civilian casualties and it's because of that i think it's time we turned off the stove take those books out of the fryer and see just how big a glass house we are all living in as we start watching the hawks. like you that i got. to. welcome on the watching dog i robot that. there's a lot of soldiers in glass houses these days lobby and they're all around yeah.

well i mean that's is the idea that anybody sitting there arguing about who has the most you know who is least most efficiently i guess that is kind of the argument that's being made and it's ridiculous at the end of the car bombings better than your bomb you know we kill way less ability and we drop 3000 pound bombs on people. now you know it's bloody as well not quite but u.s. led coalition forces announced on friday that at least 1302 civilians have been unintentionally killed by coalition strikes since the beginning of operation inherent resolve and their resolve. yeah just so they're saying the just 1300 people died who you know were enemy combatants were you know bad bad breakers and then goes one of the terms used by dry because the whole world is good people and bad all. the coalition but let's let bridges out of the coalition conducted

34502 strikes between august 2014 and the end of april of 2019 so you're telling me. but in those years 34000 there are strikes we only killed 1300 people which is a big number but only if you were to go yes why haven't we discussed that that's crazy. i'm sure that's a perfectly legitimate number and then see international senior crisis response advisor donna tyler rivera actually responded to those numbers and what you said is while all admissions of responsibility by the u.s. led coalition for civilian casualties are welcome burn the coalition remains deeply and denial about the devastated scale of the civilian casualties caused by their operations in both iraq and syria so an investigation by amnesty international and air wars who as an independent watchdog group reveal that more than 600 civilians

were killed in the 2017 rocka offensive alone so when we were doing the big lie you were told when the boat was going but almost we're just going to murder of a of people and then we're totally done and terrorism is over right so once they had that's essentially what it sounds like after 20 years but. they went in there and you're talking about 1600 civilians and for every one of those 3 for family members to see this. devastation and you know we're going to see that that's was so funny. they claim 1300 and as you pointed out 1600 just one offer and when you write when you go to people outside of the government making these numbers and counting up these can trust the government or the military to sit there and say well when we destroyed all of this i mean obviously they're not going to say well there might have been people in those buildings there might have been people there but who no i mean this is

a you know you have people fleeing one area to another and then you have these bombing campaigns and the idea that well our american bombing campaign. and there's so much more right if i mean russian bombing when are you flying a plane and dropping explosives that kill hundreds and thousands of people and one in one shot right there we're all talking about bombing i think the argument about who's bombing was less brutal than the other is kind of ludicrous is it is ludicrous you know i mean you hit the you hit the nail right on the head as the you know construction term is phrased. somehow because of it's totally ludicrous i mean you know war is hell we know that you never want to see civilians get killed in more you want to do everything you can to prevent that but there's nothing you can do to prevent that civilians have been getting killed in wars since the beginning of wars you know so this idea of like you said to have the

one side is more more efficient at killing the enemy than the other side it's ridiculous no matter how much money you spend on bombs and just so people understand now that it's kind of last area of the syrian civil war you know you're talking about more than 200000 people have fled there since strikes began in april according to the united nations you know it's going to be a major issue we're probably going to hear more about it over the summer but you know it's one of those things where it's like i really it breaks my heart to this day we're still having these fights over our machines kill people or efficiently unless civilians and others when really at the end of the day they're just cooking the books. speaking of the military industrial complex boeing and its medical 737 flying machines are back in the spotlight again hot water safety regulators busy that the federal aviation administration our f.a.a. they have discovered yet another problem the much maligned 737 this time involving

improperly manufactured parts apparently more than 300 of boeing 730 seven's including 179 of the now 9 tori s.-max model need to be checked. for an issue involving the leading edge flat track which helps provide lift during takeoff and landing according to the f.a.a. busy this part may be susceptible to premature failure or cracks resulting from the improper manufacturing process level 8 while the f.a.a. did say what a complete failure of the pa that a complete failure of the part would not cause a crash it could cause aircraft damage during the flight because there's nothing better than flying the friendly skies in a damaged aircraft it will be fine this news comes on the heels of the worldwide grounding of boeing $737.00 max planes after 2 crashes in less than 5 months due to faulty flight control systems you know its stock falling more than 17 percent since the most recent crash back in march and new questions regarding the airline giants for knowledge of the flight control issues it appears boeing could be in for

a very turbulent summer. little bit doesn't this bad boeing seriously retirement earlier what do you think the odds are going makes it as a company i mean is this event. i think we have a lot i think is the 1st of many this is the thing where you have these military industrial complex these big big groups that get a lot of money from governments both in the united states and around the world to create aircraft carriers and all the stuff here is the other thing those companies also do major consumer consumer areas that like the boeing planes these are consumer aircraft right. a huge problem with that is when something like this happens. do you want your son or daughter flying in a fighter jet made by boeing when you keep hearing about you know you want to get on one for an airline it's not so great so boeing c.e.o. dennis miller barred he'd apologized to the relatives of the 346 people that were

killed in the 2 crashes and so on the company is working to restore the flying public stross he told c.b.s. evening news that quote i do personally apologize to the families we feel terrible about these accidents we apologize for what happened. sorry i don't know that sorry is really. them for is really going to cut it. it's not going to cut it at the end of the day especially. when boeing admitted earlier this month that it knew well over a year before the 1st crash last october that a warning that it knew about this warning light link to a key sensor on the $737.00 max wasn't working on most of the airplanes but they did not inform the f.a.a. or the airlines operating or the other airlines using that particular jet the 737 until after the 1st leg until after

a problem happened and i think that's what it is the problem time is like everybody kind of waits until something bad happened like cut corners cut corners farm it always. was one crash want to grass' 2 of them and then it gets worse. it doesn't quite make sense to me and i think one of the things that it's going to be a really i don't have to be a bad year for companies that are in air travel and i think you've got the international air transportation association the global a global trade group these represent about 290 airlines. forecast about how the industry is on track to have its worst year since $24.00 seen a few years. so i have high speed rail no you have right i mean and that's where those things that get all blends i mean the vehicles they pain the airline industry has been like you know cramming us into you know smaller and smaller seats and they're making us pay more making us pay more of those they're just bleeding money

you know stealing money out of the consumer uses their products but man at the end of the day now it's like i don't want to get on a plane if i know that you guys like you had not one faulty thing wrong with that but now 23 legged more comes out when you have time to suddenly inspect the plane. i mean anybody who travels a lot especially internationally there was a very large usually 2 level airplanes are very large very wide there blame you know it takes a lot to keep them up in the air and i think there are the is. i think that companies like boeing that also make a huge amount of money off war and off of a military equipment i think that they get to sort of rest on their laurels a lot when it comes to safety and that because i man how many times a but you know we've had problems with planes boeing planes military equipment and the past as well. if you're going to be making things that can fall in the sky it's got to be

a high quality. leverage. because we go to break dog watchers don't forget to let us know what the competition covered a facebook you tube and twitter shoulders of our team got coming up a major u.s. city is trying to find a new way to provide healthy food for its citizens thanks to some good albums the whales are now back in new york so stay tuned watching the olympics. i. think that it. was her.

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deserts are areas in urban even rural communities in which people don't have reliable access to affordable healthy food options such as fresh fruits and vegetables and according to the united states department of agriculture economic research service well over 23000000 americans live in a food desert which isn't surprising since zip codes with low incomes tend to have more fast food and convenience stores than middle income zip codes it is this discrepancy that led the atlanta mayor. lance bottoms to set a goal of bringing healthy food within a half mile of 85 percent of atlanta residents by $22021.00 of the ways to do this is out of all plants and trees which is why atlanta received a grant from the community forest an open space program to establish the city's 1st and nation's largest urban food forest to be named the urban food forest the browns mill on a 7 point one acre site the food forest will be one of more than 70 public food

forests across the united states it will include not and fruit trees herbs fruits and vegetables and even areas to grow mushrooms however food forests and projects like them are more than experiments in nutrition they offer hope for a future in which food is democratise for all joining us now from atlanta is tasered troutman community organizer and urban development researcher and even dickerson atlanta area community organizer joining us today to help us understand this thank you so much ladies for joining us. hey thank you for having us so i want to start and ask you know as of 201736 percent this is devastating the 36 percent of atlanta was classified as a food desert making it just one of many across the united states in fact in 2006 the u.s.d.a. had located 6500 food desert tracks across the united states i want to start by asking how these how these food forests benefit communities beyond the idea of

just free healthy food. well i want to start by moving away from the language of food deserts in the ultra movement we acknowledge that food doesn't doesn't necessarily capture the ways that black and brown and working class communities have been intentionally underdeveloped to the point where they can't access culturally competent and healthy nutritious foods lately myself tasia and other organizers in the food movement have moved closer to language like food. died oeuvre food war to describe the ways a lot of what's happening a lot of the reasons people can't access the foods that they need or the food from their cultures is because they're under development. and actually i think the benefits they offer the community besides just being a location for fresh healthy food obviously benefit the local environment which is really important for low income communities of color because we know as a part of this food apartheid issue it's also environmental injustice issues right

that happen in these communities so anytime you have a more productive green face it offers opportunities for access to cleaner air you know better joining age fewer flooding incidents things that nature so environment and food are like the 2 biggest parts of the benefits of a food forest i think what's interesting and part of the issues that sort of leads to these these food apartheid states that don't have what they need and it comes out of development part of it seems to be the way cities were laid out decades ago or where development has been allowed to flourish things like gentrification what changes do you think need to be made to the idea of say urban or city planning to avoid this in future generations what do we is it one of these things where we need to know that having more of these green spaces is fundamental to a city's development. i think we talk all the way like to the bottom of the issue

of like city regional planning. we have to get away from development is rooted in capitalism and like profit driven community development and urban development so why are you looking at a space like a food for if it offers benefits for the human in the environment we know sustainability has 3 e's right so equity which is the humanities environment and economic development and profit so cities soon to key in on economic implications like 2 such things that are and they say. city for people in the environment they're for rendering those spaces in those things an amenity so other food for us is going to be awesome for the currently existing community and the people who have lived in the community for years and have suffered issues related to food apartheid and environmental injustice we have to also realize that the food for us is in an area that is rapidly gentrifying it is one of the last kind of affordable places in atlanta but it's rapidly turning over it's sitting between

a number of major investment spaces on the south side including the new turnover of turner field including the project arrow trouble is development and some of the things that are also happening in the surrounding former turner field communities kind of like the pittsburgh adair heights community so yeah mechanics do so looking at the way that the food for us is tied into these larger scale development projects is very evident that it could be rendered something that helps push out the existing community as a part of his interpretation regime and that's all rooted in city and urban planning being based on profit and capitalism and i wanted just really focus in on the way that is connected. trendy populaire kind of exciting ideas that focus around food and connecting it with development because as people who work in organizing the city of atlanta if you truly want to invest in the longevity

of this city's ability to feed its people i'm not sure that a food force would have been the 1st place i would have went it's exciting it's great for the environment but there was talks a few years back even very recently that's illegal for people to have small scale farms in their backyard it's illegal for people to catch rain water for drinking water in their backyards it's very difficult for people to get off of the georgia power grid and rely on solar power so going back to what he just said about the root of these issues when you connect. the development that's happening in the city that's driven by private capital it kind of makes you question whether or not this was done as a solution to a food crisis or to make elana again another city popping up on news headlines and things like that without that's a bit of a good that's a fascinating observation that you know it's interesting let me just ask you would you mention you know what would you do before a food for you know before this kind of idea of putting this in what would you do

what are the other alternatives not saying that the forest idea is a bad idea but what are some of the other alternatives that people could could be using other cities could be allowing their citizens to use in order to get proper healthy food. i think the amazing thing about a problem as wide scale as food apartheid is the fact that solutions are also large scale so t.j. and i have both at different times lived busy in atlanta west and historic neighborhood which despite being classified as a food desert is the most dense part of the city with urban gardens urban gardens do so much more than provide food for our communities but they're also a space for cultural development engagement voter engagement our neighborhood also supports a thriving farmer's market actually several driving farmers market driving farmers markets also our spaces for community development outside of just ok how do we feed people how do we feed people's hearts how we feed people's minds how do we feed

people's communities. you know another part of that is you think about connectivity being the issue when people are separated from a healthy food system because the food system is not just the food is that it's the people is how are we moving people to food within the system how are we making that sustainable and so the poetry of the obviously is like the number one thing on my list when we talk about connecting people to fresh healthy food system when you break the space in the. system of alienation which is often rooted in racial lies injustice and class based injustice. if you can get people connected to of fordable or in my opinion public transit should be free save affordable clean healthy public transit options to the point where they don't have to completely rely on a food source to be walking distance or biking distance. you know you have

a bus or a train system that or that is able to take you where you need to go and get you there fishery i think that's also a very important piece to the equation and atlanta while they are making some moves to expand our local transit system marta it is definitely slow moving as the needs against the way they need presents and i also want to point out i was going to ask a little bit i'm glad you brought up public transportation because one of the things i've noticed is that in the vein of like capitalist answers to problems that capitalism actually created is you know you see lift and ride share groups in internet around atlanta and other places like that saying oh we'll give you a deal on a ride to the grocery store and that's 10 miles away and and farmers markets and grocery stores and while those you know a discounted ride on your list is grade it's still not really bringing that public transportation source do you think we need a pump and ask you guys will quickly have a couple minutes left about

a minute i have left what do you think the people work watching at home what can we do to better bring and require that we get better or better food options and better food situation in our own communities what can we do and what do you suggest people at home do. i think people at home should work collaboratively right. the way that our western community through ours and our food system our unique food system thrive in our neighborhood is that you had everyone from residents to growers to buy. the people who live in the neighborhood the people who work in the neighborhood are frequent in a grenade standing arm in arm and really sitting together at a table and planning and working together someone's growing something someone else is making something higher they working together to make sure both people can access and get a reasonable price and then happen from those collaboration how are they working with the city or funders or the people with money in financial capital to make

those resources sustainable and accessible it's like a communal effort and something like lift offering rides is cool but when you think about a from a neo liberal cities kind of lives that makes it more makes access an individual thing whereas something like public transit or something like collective planning where something like community led collective planning makes it more accessible. option for the masses i absolutely agree i'd only add that the question you asked to me sounds like how do we heal the food system and when it comes to healing the food system we really need to ask ourselves what is the intention of our food system because today it's clearly not to feed people nutritional accessible culturally competent food right now the intention of our food system is to make as much money as fast as possible so i think if we really get down to the root of what it would take to heal food systems for individual communities and not on these

large scale big national plans and really start talking to the people who are actually doing that one goal which is feeding people will start healing the food system that's great i got it i got to say thank you guys so much for joining us taser troutman community organizer urban researcher urban development researcher even dickerson thank you so much atlanta area thank you. thank you thank you that is our show for you today remember everyone in this world we are not told that we are loved enough so i tell you all i love you i am tyrrell's and capital i keep on . watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night everybody. because the swarm see the blood of them so much. good your school board local was before.

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