reappearing reestablish the status quo i don't think so trust in both of the major says been waiting so i expect that the seismic shift to remain passive next general election david says a good balance lineup of guests ray says scotland has a referendum on quitting england i'm going alone but the scottish voter to see now i think we have in england should have a referendum to see if the english what you with us and i think the answer would be no go please just go back over the border where you belong rennie says westminster as a puppet parliament fiasco proves it and finally body says i think england should have a referendum for independence and let scotland wales i northern ireland sort themselves out now before the present even arrived he was courting controversy boris johnson were waiting for the invitation to tea and making marco was accused of making nasty comments for the suggestion that his massage knee may not make the present one of the great healers of politics however though tom does have the

ability to bring people together the warring factions in the labor party lead the differences the site to join in the anti trump protests while the problem to leaders of labor and the i think peeling to arms to boycott to state dinner but what was the aim of the mass protest and who was in awe at the audience at home or abroad alex as protest organizers should be lock up the key christians. and now i'm delighted to be joined by shelby a lot of one of the organizers of the stop the war coalition who'd been behind the demonstrations this week shall be a welcome to the salmon sure thanks for having me i'm interested in this week's demonstration of who your target audience for who we trying to impress was that people in the u.k. or was it a medical services what was the target behind your anti trump demonstration yeah well our aim was to show visible opposition to donald trump and to say that he's not welcome here that things that he stands for are what we stand against and for

that reason our target audience was the people of britain who came out to protest against them was against our government for colluding with trump and the things that he does and it was the sense of the diety to the american people who are resisting his policies domestically but you know 15 years or so when donald trump famously says he was a. war to 15 years ago he may have been demonstrating a few against himself although he has said that in his eyes the solution was to just go to iraq and take the oil without any pretenses and you know i mean what we've seen even from his rallies before he became president was that he preaches this kind of anti war rhetoric because that's what his base want to hear but in reality we see him supporting saudi arabia's war in yemen pushing for war with iran increasing tensions with north korea and various other flashpoints across the globe and in effect he's made the world a much less safe place but on north korea let's see he breaks off what he described

as the greatest 11 secure and demilitarization of the korean peninsula. the american president one of the world's greatest peacemaker well i don't think it would be down to him primarily to be honest i think it would be the willingness of the korean people to reach peace despite america's historic role in. hoping that but you know you have to contrast that with him pulling out of the iran nuclear agreement and sending warships and potentially 1500 or more troops to iran to see that this isn't about peace this is about more geopolitics is about american imperialism well it's not a verb lose a cup of tea that's for sure but really did get elected donald trump who won a democratic election so it's not a case that you should respect the office even if you disagree with him ah well i think we have to look at what he's done once he's come into office one of the 1st things he did was implemented a muslim ban this is

a man who's been caught on tape bragging about sexual assault he's locked refugee children in cages and at least 6 of whom have died and thousands are said to not be able to be reunited with their families this is not the kind of person who elected or not we should be legitimizing or normalising looking up to in any way let alone maintaining close relations the way this tory government is doing and supporting in his wars abroad then in his foreign policy rhetoric we have to be opposed to that and primarily because we have this special relationship with the united states we are in a position to impact that relationship and what he's doing so you're a veteran a young age but still a vet to love a range of protests but you don't want your big scoop the other sort of oh my goodness you know we're here we're marching this is great solidarity but where will these folks get to work you know let me talk and offer cause because of the

inconvenience well i think the aim of the demonstration is to stop business as usual and that unfortunately does mean that people can get to work and i delay that cetera but that is part of sending the message in is to show primarily to our government and those who will this country there we won't sit by and let things carry on as normal while they behave this way in a way that we clearly. but it does send a message to the public as well that there is a movement willing to take to the streets willing to disrupt the status quo to get our message had and they should join us what do you think of the balances between the reason the conventional demonstration albeit one which says it's not business as usual but nonetheless pretty conventional demonstrations like you see in this week i'm and the elements of humor like the the trump blimp or the trump robot to does some rude things when you think of the balance between conventional demonstration and a touch of humor lies well i think the more ways we can show our opposition the

better and i think it's a testament to the british people that humor can be involved in acts of resistance such as the trump baby balloon and other things but we can't discount the role of the demonstration itself the very act of a mass mobilization on the streets with thousands of people many of whom have never demonstrated before we during the course of their demonstration here in new arguments meet like minded people have a raising of their consciousness a very active presence of solidarity i think it's very important and can you point to have been referring to generation back again the iraq war huge demonstration famously the war went and can you point to recent examples of of demonstrations was slightly changed the course of events or changed the course of history well i think looking at the iraq war demonstration itself although the war went ahead that demonstration had a fundamental impact on british politics we know that tony blair and politicians

were looking to invade other middle eastern countries after the iraq war which they were then put off from following the mass show opposition we saw ed miliband in 2013 refused to go along with bombing syria for that very reason and to look at other demonstrations which have had impacts you can look at the youth climate strike as an extinction rebellion and the impact. we've had of putting climate change on the agenda of making parliament declare a prime imagine c and all these things and you can look at other european countries in france for example you look at the join it's happening everywhere and you can see the impact. of the late show of demonstrations in terms of the social complexity but most people watching the program probably would have been on many demonstrations saw. a young audiences of all sections of the community i did see some pretty old age pension. bell so what.

and complection of the demonstrations that you organize well i think it's very their vest and particularly the anti trump demonstrations we've seen people of all ages a lot of young people but also a lot of veteran campaign is from for example the anti nuclear weapons movement etc it's a reflection i think on the organizations that helped to call the demonstrations where we see the biggest trade unions in the country resulting in a big show of the labor movement in the streets also most of the social campaigning organizations and mass movements their reach across communities who are being affected by various policies and i think that's really represented on the demonstrations. the extension lebeau in the middle school strikes early outgoing prime minister was very upset about how much to some of the concerns well it meant is that something you do in college and we did demonstrations yeah absolutely i've been down to the school strikes against climate and what i've seen is young people

who are incredibly clued on what's going on they understand the danger there is facing society and particularly their futures and they're fighting back against the patronize a narrative that is present in the media and among politicians that these young people don't have a clue about what's going on that they should stay in school and leave it to the adults all the adults haven't done anything about this and that's why they've taken the stand and they're very conscious. of the fact that they take in a day of school this is an act of resistance on the streets and i think it should be encouraged and replicated as much as possible with your experience of demonstrations have your favorite moment from from one of the big demos that you've been on as and some of the blood that was there. well i think probably last year's demonstration against. you know with 250000 people was probably a highlight i think in seeing so many people who clearly have never been in a demonstration before who are out there you know making their voices heard in a very clear and they jet equate i think the road of chanting and demonstrations

and i think that's a great thing to do so yeah i think that's kind of one of my favorite moments. a leap of imagination was just for a 2nd imagine that donald trump and i'm the president and i think states and i i mean a conversation with someone who's demonstrating against me will be the key message you'd want to get across to the president. you should step down immediately. and if i could secure a presidential resignation what i could certainly do is present you with the well itself and quickly scott's gullit for the loving cup you put a flute preferably whiskey but obviously a soft drink. in the creek can pass that word and your or your close friends have a venue so much. for you. one of the breakthroughs in the history of protest was in the late 1970 s. when i did the slogan love music racism some of the great rock bands of that you

know were mobilized to fight the rise of racism in that day join us after the break when alex interviews the artist behind that initiative read thought and. petersburg international economic forum is a unique event in today's business world. over the last 21 years the forum has become a leading global platform for discussing the key economic issues facing russia emerging markets and the world thousands of business community members attend the forum to address today's vital issues. watch our special forum coverage on r.t.

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laban's the other the way he wants because that is if they had a deep crisis of legitimacy and this crisis of legitimacy cannot be sold bought by going to be an. welcome back 40 years after its 1st launch rock against racism as a choir for lost status and become the template for many a little movements mobilized in the music industry to promote great causes and i'm joined by the man behind that in the shade of red saunders to talk about protest and then i know so rock against racism as we back to 976 what was the genesis behind the rock against racism is really simple thing it was an outburst by the guitar god eric clapton who made a complete racist outburst supporting he not power the concert in birmingham it was

reported in the music press i was an old eric clapton fan i had all these records and everything and i was outraged because that music is based on black music so i wrote a letter i wrote a letter proposing that we started a campaign against racism in music to bring black and white musicians together call rock against racism and that was in the new musical expression which was a revival of of music and the only maker and sounds and black echoes and the left press so out it that was it you cover this mass movement started with a letter a letter and i thought i really thought not much about it i mean i was angry so wrote the letter and it was done i don't write letters very often you know and i didn't really think about it much and somebody called me up a result friend of mine who's a journalist and he called up and said oh he organized a p. o. box to replies to be addressed to he said there's this 400 letters here i went what were you talking about and that was it there for the better for the viewers that this is long before the internet long before e-mail we set up a

a post box to get the response to your anally cry yeah and these you say in those days you set up a post box because you didn't put an individual address because if you did d.n.a. if would be far bombing your address these were dangerous times so we had set up a post box so we were stunned when we got an. letters were just amazing so what was your message back to the will i really wanted the banner i remember one particular letter from a young. school student a young girl in aberystwyth and she wrote the shit out regina litter a melody maker and she said i've got a job graffiti choose a nazi and i hate racism i love music and you know what i do and so i wrote a letter back to her as was the start of that time that was what has to happen i wrote a letter and it just said right susan you are rock against racism aberystwyth get on with it and one of the things that came out of it as well was the people who were at the center of rock all sixty's people who'd been through the sixty's it

been through vietnam solidarity love ins hippie dope everything we did so they had some experience of organizing things and putting on festivals and gigs so it wasn't totally new to them but it was a concert puts a bear that you saw where to my good look where we are having are having started well at are unbelievable i mean when we did the victoria park carnival with steel pass and came out dressed in the 78 i was 78 so we had the clash who were the leading political punk band of the time we had tom robinson was that time just had the hit with sing if you're glad to be gay so you had all the politics not just racism but everything about oppression was mixed up steel poles came on stage black regular band from hands with in birmingham came on stage dressed include klux klan outfits and sang this song klu klux klan i was just incredible so that he had polystyrene who has passed away sadly who sang the incredible song oboe ndege up

yours as a young punk feminist and i remember running out and so i was comparing the gig and i remember running out on the stage and i just was overwhelmed with the amount of people and i just screamed this ain't no woodstock this is the carnival again. the nazis and the crowd just went for our and it just carried us through the rest of the day it's a it was a blur it was such an incredible moment in my life i look back and people say older member when you know i don't remember anything me it just went into vapor so raucous race as it was about sexy years or so we just say it was the period of it it was really from it was like a shooting star really and when people try to start it up again lester said no you never can do that it was unique to its moment absolutely it was that time and that time only you know the train came in the station and on the platform was these regular musicians milling about these punks milling about and they all stepped on

the train and off we went on this incredible journey from 76 to 82 but these 6 years because 6 short years had big affects of in terms of the well some groups are melds there's a dissolved of rock against racism but also in terms of making music and accept to be accepted medium to get a political message across out of all that fantastic kind of cultural activity came things like live aid and womad and peter gabriel's things all came after ron kuby the political activist or your days as well as a photographer which issue your profession and an interest in the theater and when you kept the shooting at the come through the the anti trump protest of what was your view of the style of the protest against the american president state visit while i was on the protests myself and it was just absolutely one of most extraordinary demos i've seen in years because it was

a beautiful the sun was amazing and the whole of trafalgar square was full and late in the afternoon when the sun comes across trafalgar square and there was just i don't know crude cause a 1000000 people it was absolutely incredible and the manifestations of all the little things that people had done like the baby trump and all rest of it and all the handmade banners. i remember someone had a picture of trump and it said you like comb over you so it was like it was just there so much going all over called your words it we should have a comb and it reminded me like you know if i was an old geezer like i am now you know i'd have been on the streets doing our own shit prop theater in the middle of that because there was people dressed up and people doing all sorts of incredible activities so you know it took me way back that let's talk about your career as a photographer of a very substantial. for it is your photography politically or you have dated as well as would you describe photography as a form that you can get

a message across absolutely now especially before know before i separated my commercial life and my cultural and political life sometimes that overlap or i'd use my photographic skills to help political campaigns whatever but they were pretty separated out a young family to bring up and all rest of it but now in the last 10 years the better part of a decade now i've been doing my hidden project about hidden working class history and that is 100 percent tell us that the exhibition most test of this i have an exhibition opening in manchester this week and it's about the peterloo massacre because it's 200 years since the peterloo massacre and all the commemorations are going on all year i've been looking at my project looks hidden working class history and basically very simply i just shine photographic light on these momentous events that have been overlooked about how can you photograph something which was just before the dawn the photography of the case well into lu what i do

is i used the method of the french tabloid tab of the form where you you use all the props of art culture painting theatre or praagh and you the victorian started this in the french at that time where they'd bring together these elements to make images. and then they'd cutout elements they cut out the negatives and they put them all together to make big images and i just do the same thing but i use the modern technology which enables me to do a group of 300 people for tuppence ha'penny because i shoot them all as friends everyone's volunteer and i shoot them 3 at a time for that so i'm some at 2 o'clock some 8 o'clock and i save money and put these events together and they have they've 100 percent political work and you think in terms of things like you to loose something which unfortunately many english school children will never head of some will. you think it is the lack of

images which is. the age which is driven by images they think that's one of the reasons why there can be written history i think that so it's one of my motivations is to hope that my images bring these things back to life so people have a go what was that all about it is a fantastic method of the 1st cinema graphic you do but my project ends when photography begins so i don't do anything from 850 on so occur to you for told is very much a part of the politics of yes absolutely well read to history the way through to manchester i can present you with the alec salmon quick you know the drill whisky only scotch in the quick and then pass it won't all these friends have been wound up as very very kind of you know which thank you very much a pleasure thank you both for anti-static. the state visit to the united kingdom of

the 44th president of united states is only the thought of ever accorded to a sitting president reagan eisenhower kennedy a free of the substantial occupants of the white house never accorded such an accolade only trump himself would evaluate his presidency in that category. now if the british calculations that donald trump is vulnerable to flatly that's undoubtably collect this is the most narcissistic and thin skinned american president in history over if the calculation is that pomp and ceremony will somehow influence his negotiating behavior in any upcoming possible exit trade deal then it is a serious misreading of the donald's intelligence and. this president is not normal for giving any sucker an even break so how best to conduct protests against such a man public opinion is divided on the issue is substantial majority dislike the president and all his works this is not surprising given the ever growing trump

library of offensive comments and prejudice opinions of another majority of the public would not ban the visit perhaps believing that the suspect in the office takes precedence over honoring the individual that's the organizers of this week's protests faced tough tightrope and judging tactics in the event the balance was probably correct numbers are important but they're not the be all and end all the more impactful and puncturing the trump ego is humor and here comes some precedented social media access and accessibility is important most often protesters are kept well 0 to say to those protests against have on any anti trump campaign or can have the virtual government teat their protests will register with the president you may not always get the joke but it's enough to know he will certainly read the message take it personally and if you're very lucky regale against it and one of his famous adly or state court field rebuttals and less sense

social media is no the weapon of choice for both the president and his detractors not so much sobs at dawn but tweets in the early light the stakes could not be higher as victory in this stool will dictate the politics of the planet for the next generation. protest politics is more varied and the smaller of major social media has opened up new opportunities but also has made mass organization much easier to boast of traditional marches and rallies when rock against racism broke the mold read sound both of these companies took to the columns of the new musical express to galvanize support 10 years later live aid broadcast to hundreds of millions no such a campaign would reach billions for the social media a 2nd show in the politics of protest will chop this transition and examine what it means for the sas and otherwise of campaigns next week i will be tom to the leadership contest which will determine the u.k.'s next prime minister and which

ironically no rivals the universe and song contest for the number of entries joining us to find out who is likely to prevail and who will end up with no plot until then from thais myself and the rest of the team it's goodbye for now. as a wise man once said currency wars lead to trade wars late the hot more so we've got currency wars that's been going on now for 10 years 15 years really particularly

with china you know they artificially keep their currency low export their way into becoming a large economy and now this is led to trade worse. now pretty much declaring secession from the global economy as we go to neo mercantile ism days of globalization and lot of tourism and dollars ation is over and you know look at the globe we've got a few little hot spots there the encroaching hot war scenario is upon us. with this manufactured sentenced to a public will. when the ruling classes protect them so. when the crime and merry go round.

we can all middle of the room seek moves. from the real news is. nobody could see coming that false confessions would be that in this population of . if you had any interest geisha out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat lie a lie a lie the process of the interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind make the most culpable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept or deny. she said therefore would. send a statement that i would be home by the next day there's a culture on accountability and police. no. misconduct that has nothing to do with.

the us democratic senator. ministration for giving the green light to sharing sensitive nuclear technology with saudi arabia it was. the killing of. the trump administration has broken this precedent they kept it secret i worry that they're trying to hide information or so.