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economic unions are it is an equivalent of the e.u. so to say but when it comes to the former soviet republics and russia but you were talking about trade wars that was of course the number one topic because you were sitting right next to vladimir putin and the chinese leader. now i just want to play you a segment of that discussion when the leaders. they were quite the metaphorical in the way they answered sophie's question let's take a listen. cartridge globalization is a double edged sword of course there are those who stand to benefit and those who stand to lose so this is a question of distribution as benefits and interests but you know if you're unhappy with fleas in your fur coat you can simply throw a fur coat into the oven it's that and see above natural 30 chairman z. has explained the tariff war as a fight between globalization and to globalization the question is where does
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russia stand in the fight for the economic superiority that. is a good chinese proverb when the tigers are fighting in the valley a smart monkey sits out of the way and watches how it then. so you see the presidents are not giving maims but it's clear who they're talking about and it's clear that they are not the ones war initiating this conflict when it comes to the economic international battlefield that's what i meant they were very diplomatic in their answers because both of them are way to brands to actually point fingers at anyone in particular but i think longer stand that they meant america and they meant that we didn't start this trade war america started and it's best that we need to clean up together because it is not a good thing for the world economy and then we went on to talk about russian sanctions suite. russian sanctions are we got to that point
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a bit later and the line up of the panel was very interesting as well because we had the leaders of. the biggest country russia the 2nd biggest economy china of course there's no disrespect to the smaller countries but the e.u. members that were there on that panel there are perhaps not the most important voices in brussels but still they have something very important to say right and it was great to see how you dug into the matter with them they were saying that in many cases. even though they support the common position of the european union. in many cases they're against the antiabortion sanctions and this is not the way to go right but actually i wouldn't agree with you when you're saying that the forces don't really matter in the u. because the sanctions they're actually reenacted the latter so their voices do
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matter if either of them i point out would vote against the sanctions that the sanctions will be off so that was a very important point to you to to to to ask them and i mean you could tell that their hands are tied and they couldn't say that we really want the sanctions to be off but we're part of the european union but that's like the usual answer that european representatives give and i mean we can understand them right because they're not in a position to go against the whole union but they're very clear about the message that it's crazy that even the people who are actually putting the sanctions in place. in 5 minutes are looking for ways to trade somehow with russia and this is doubtful standards that should be taking place and it is better for everyone involved for the sanctions to be off and i believe it's very important that you were able to get this kind of answer from them so call in once again it was great to have. chance to talk to sophie shevardnadze just 30 minutes after the plenary
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session wrapped up now back to you in moscow so. another business day 3 to come looking forward to that another sophia thanks for that you're with international more analysis from the forum and headline news and less than 30 minutes. i determine that you're the one. who did it. so i'm going to move into the
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interrogation. i leave the role alleges that there for several minutes because i want you to get anxious. to think about the error of your way. and then i'll walk back and when i walk back in i'm going to have a big fix file with me. all kind of a person and i may have seen just like our surveillance video they might all be blank. but it's to show you that i have a strong investigation and i have all this evidence. so the 1st thing i tell you is . our investigation has proven that you're the one who committed this crime there is no doubt about it whatsoever we have the evidence that you did it there is nothing that you can say that will convince me otherwise all i want to know is why . could you confess to a crime that you did not commit. and interrogation technique used by the majority
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of police officers in the united states is causing controversy across the country. created in the sixty's by the private company john reed this method has gone on to influence most of the interrogation techniques taught in american police academies it involves 9 different stages leading from. confrontation to spoken confession to a final written confession this technique has allegedly compelled thousands of innocent people to confess to crimes that they did not commit interrogations should be conducted in a non supportive environment we want to get the person on to our territory away from his or her own surroundings the interrogation room should be quiet private free of any outside distractions or noises. so clearly. your members want to be on i don't know they tell these interrogators that you can tell whether someone is guilty by looking at them and listening to what they say that confirms
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their belief that the suspect is guilty and it is a recipe for disaster what are finally realized what had happened in that interrogation room it was like oh my god oh my we begin to move closer shortening the distance between the suspect and ourselves moving into their personal space to slowly if. needed yes they are down for. the united states to be proud of the many failures of the criminal justice system nobody saw it coming nobody could see coming that false confessions would be that prevalent in this population of wrongful conviction accusing yourself of committing a crime seems unbelievable but recently an official study from the u.s. department of justice has revealed that almost a 3rd of the exonerated people have confessed to a crime that they did not actually commit at the beginning of the interrogation
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investigator enters the room stands about 3 or 4 feet away from a suspect looking down on the suspect and in a very direct and unequivocal way accuses him or of committing the crime. that's what happens when you're dealing with crooked cops. crooked people who don't care about other people's lives. they took an oath to help to save lives and fight for people and they did not do that not in mass once case. they were comfortable it was satisfied. that they had a man and that's all they really wanted was a body. so they took us. from 21 years and 12 days.
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and. that's where i was that just trying to figure things out. then age 43 more months and has spent 21 years of his life behind bars. in 1996 he was convicted of murder and sentenced to 50 years in prison at the time he's making a living by selling drugs in an apartment building in detroit. is accused of killing christina brown one of his young clients on the night of the 19th of january 1996. however on the night of the murder lamar was far from the scene of the crime.
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he was at home with his 6 year old daughter. more memory going out watching cartoons with my daughter saturday morning and she woke me up and i was like mom we're watching cartoons and davey and i want to where my daughter saturday morning and. that's like i want to mom. and i was the last day i was out. that saturday morning lamar monson is the 1st to arrive at the scene he finds the apartment in a state of chaos and then he sees the young christina brown lying motionless on the floor on january 20th 1996 lamar went for his afternoon shift to the apartment and he found the body of christina brown he knew her as crystal. he thought she was 17 years old it was
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a young tall young woman who does drive herself a 17 after she was 12 and she was another one of the dealers who dealt out of that apartment and what he found was this horrific bloody crime scene. were. she was in spain. needed medical attention and. or if it. was she was alive. she was waving at me and trying to say my name. is taller than her. just hold on i want to get you out. and i'm going to be long. and frantically on the run and banging on all the doors and the apartment for a call the police will call him as the police came and lamar spoke to the police and the police immediately decided that he was their suspect and so on that day
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very day he was arrested in fact we have a police report where the detective basically says on the same day of the killing we can close this case if we can just get our monson to confess. i got a phone call. telling me that my son had been arrested for killing a young lady. i know that could never never never be possible from the training that he had had from the time he was born into 22 years when they took him away from me i was devastated i with. i couldn't and i couldn't sleep i walked the floor wondering what had happened why it happened and where would they choose.
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kristina brown dies a few hours later in hospital. the officers of the detroit police force take more monson to the station and begin to question her. questions like she was my girlfriend and she was my girlfriend she's more like the little sister in a bunch. we live in there i never live there in the one me i'm there. just stuff like. questioning was core from a witness to suspect. part of the interview process is you're supposed to use what recalls the behavioral analysis interview. and in that if you use these techniques it's like you know you're watching a person's body language or you're watching the way that they say something or the way that the answer your questions there's also
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a series of 17 questions that each is that you can ask the person and you know based is that based on your answers on their answers and based on your observations you will be able to tell whether or not they're being deceptive or not they're guilty with over 80 percent accuracy. verify judgment i'm very it's like being a human lie detector test and the problem with that is really read itself the read people at mit that is not based on any science whatsoever just based on their own observations the real science says it's baloney it doesn't work. and it when they've done experiments with it they pretty much show that the accuracy is like flipping a coin it's $5050.00. the read into. irrigation technique makes its debut in the sixty's it is revolutionary for police stations.
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john reed a police officer from chicago proposes a new and less brutal approach to interrogation. i think john reed was a reformer in many ways you have to understand that when reid came to prominence. the method that was used widely throughout the united states was what's called the 3rd degree police officers were beating suspects into confessing to crimes that they did or didn't commit. they were tuning them up they were using the rubber o's they were grilling them for hour after hour after hour and read to his credit knew that that was a way that was fraught with danger in that it might get false or unreliable confessions the problem is that he and weed and associates today have
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never come to grips with the fact that psychological interrogation tactics can also produce false confessions. the 1st problem is they have this analysis by which they tell their trainees that you can tell when someone's lying by the tone in their voice or by their posture or whether they sit rigid in their chair or relaxed whether they look at you and give you i contact or look away or look down whether they fold their arms fold their legs look up look left look right you name it it's a q and the retreat interrogator. has a whole list of body language behaviors and verbal behaviors of the suspect says i
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don't know that's considered deceptive if the suspects in his own swear to god i had nothing to do with this appeals to religiosity are considered deceptive behavior they lead their trainees to believe that they are lie detectors but they are human lie detector and once you make that judgment don't turn back move on to interrogation. when i 1st entered into the home said the vision you had a lot of officers stress with their boss and you did. q there who you know it was bombard me with that as i'm in a tara geisha. arcus him i was just all over the place just devastated by what i've seen what was going on and then to get here and now you're trying to suggest that i committed the crime. the more
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monson's interrogation continues through the night as the hours go by the questions progressively turn into accusations so dros she sold drugs for you. you killed her she was your girlfriend and often just creating a scenario that they want it on despite what obvious attempting to relate to far as what i'm. so i would go back and forth and back before from the interrogation lasted maybe. 4 or 5 hours because it. is important issue you seldom will find a false confession taken in an hour seldom will you find that in 2 hours when you look at false confession cases 121-516-1820 hours can be broken down
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at some point the average person does what an average rational person does they conclude that i need to get out of this situation desperate they hate it here among comfortable i'm stressed and the more i deny it the more they call me a liar and i just can't get out this way so they're looking for a way out of a bad situation. and tired. confused and that's funny over which. taken to. in floor locker. and there ready it was star. kingsley kay rist. came believe was gorman. are you just can't imagine. americans describe.
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the process of interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind make them one comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials. most interrogations the suspect is not going to just sit there and listen to you while you develop your theme they're going to try to deny any involvement whatsoever but that should be expected many guilty people introduce their denials with permission phrases such as can i say one thing which is just listen to me but if i can only explain when the interrogator hears those phrases it's important to interject yourself and stop the person from continuing because you. will say the words i didn't do it and the more often a person says they didn't do it the more difficult it becomes for us to get a confession. if you
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look at any interrogation out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat lie a lie a lie and it's back to back over and over and over and over and it's cutting the person off and like i said is narrowing your options and giving you this perception that oh my god i'm facing this guy knows the things that i'm guilty he has all this evidence i know that is bogus these witnesses didn't see me but they're lying on me and he's telling me that the only way that i can get a break from. this is by telling him what he wants to hear. they're so stressed and may have to do with how long they've been there may have to do with the fact that it's late at night they've been accused and called a liar they've threatened promises of the maid whatever it is they get to
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a breaking point where they decide that it's in their best interest to confess at this moment it's in my better interest to confess them to continue denial. lamar munson sees that he is about to be caught in a trap police detective joan going places a file on the table. or the broader her office. and. she said there is shared a pile of files on my desk and she mentioned where you notice she was make a reference to those files being evidence begins here against me and i. ok. i don't know what that is but i haven't done anything and i don't know why i'm down here and i want to go basically.
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what was inside of this fight. for anything. lamar monson tries to ignore her but american police officers have the right to lie to a suspect lying is a normal part of the process used to put suspects under pressure. i can lie. about the evidence i can tell i think i absolutely the courts allow me to live up to a point you know there's certain laws that are so outrageous that good not records are going to lead it but i can tell you all kinds of lies i can tell you that we have 3 or 4 we have 4 witnesses who say that they saw you take the money and you're going. oftentimes it will come in with a. file folder filled with papers doesn't matter what's in that file folder it could be take out menus from a restaurant ok and oftentimes there will be clipped on the top of that aisle
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folder a d.v.d. ok and police officers will tell the suspect that there was a camera across the street that was filming the area where the crime occurred and that their images on the d.v.d. so there's technological evidence that police officers sometimes use other times they'll claim that they've had they found for your prints or blood evidence or d.n.a. evidence imagine a suspect in an interrogation and they're there for again some period of time that is uncomfortable and the police now are lying about the evidence that's suspect may we know full well that he didn't do anything wrong. but he's starting to feel trapped and overwhelmed by this presentation of incriminating evidence thinking i didn't do this but they're claiming they've got evidence and whether this is
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a set up or what i've got to find a better way out anybody who's been the victim of a high pressure sales tactics knows what this feels like anybody who says that they would never ever confess to a crime and they didn't do. happen been under this sort of pressure. these tactics are relentless for them armaan some time seems to stand still the police detective offers him what appears to be a way out. she was saying she believed that i didn't do it and this she was willing to help me but i had to help her cope me. so she began to give me a scenario. self-defense. she suggested or it probably helped my situation and then. she said if i would cooperate sani statement that i
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would be home by that time the next day. over a series of other tech. with the interrogator does he narrow down for the suspect. 2 choices to pass both of them involve the suspect admitting their guilt but one paints the suspect as an evil person on a monster a cold blooded remorseless killer and the other one provides an excuse for the suspect for why they committed the crime maybe it was self-defense maybe it was an impulsive act not a deliberate act not a premeditated act. and over time you know with increasing pressure on the suspect. many suspects will accept the path of
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least resistance and accept a less heinous explanation for why they can be to cry. during the theme we offer to the suspect psychological justification for the mission of the crime we don't legally justify it but we offer him a moral excuse that will minimize or justify in his own mind committing the crime and this should be done in a monologue format. it comes to the point where i'm doing this over and over and i start to see you getting to checked it and i get to the point where i think i need to come in with the final question my job my goal of the interrogation is to limit your options and to give you the at least a temporary perception that your only option is to confess to this crime. that's the best route for you to take. the whole process the
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words when we have a conversation we don't process literally what is said we process between the lines we process not what is said but what is implied when an interrogator says i think you're a good person i don't think you meant to do this i think it was an accident and by the way i would have done the same thing you're thinking oh this is no big deal i can confess and that's my easy way out here. and that's the point at which people in fast. i was out of it there. are just ready to whatever you want to me to do maybe disarm sinusoid it in my mind . turning it he would be able to. it was necessary to show to go innocent and i didn't commit this crime because i didn't commit the crime. on the
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30th of january 1996 at 6 o 2 am after 10 hours of interrogation detective ago in obtains a single signature from lamar monson in this document he explains that he involuntarily stabbed christina brown detective going was subsequently removed from the homicide unit and later terminated from the detroit police and the reason she was removed from the homicide unit was because she was accused of fabricating confessions and other words tricking people into signing false confessions. but he may put in calls out america and other nations for not practicing what they preach not only when it comes to trade was the russian president's assessment came at the same petersburg international economic forum speaking alongside other world leaders. british prime minister theresa may officially.
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