tv Documentary RT June 8, 2019 8:30pm-9:01pm EDT
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across the country. created in the sixty's by the private company john reed this method has gone on to influence most of the interrogation techniques taught in american police academies it involves 9 different stages leading from confrontation to spoken confession to a final written confession this technique has allegedly compelled thousands of innocent people to confess to crimes that they did not commit interrogations should be conducted in a non supportive environment we want to get the person on to our territory away from his or her own surroundings the interrogation room should be quiet private free of any outside distractions or noises. so clearly. your members want to be on i don't know they tell these interrogators that you can tell whether someone is guilty by looking at them and listening to what they say that confirms their belief that the suspect is guilty and it is
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a recipe for disaster what our family realised what had happened in that interrogation room it was like oh my god oh my we begin to move closer shortening the distance between the suspect and ourselves moving into their personal space to solve their. need yes they are down for. the united states to be proud of the many failures of the criminal justice system nobody saw it coming nobody could see coming that false confessions would be that prevalent in this population of wrongful conviction accusing yourself of committing a crime seems unbelievable but recently an official study from the u.s. department of justice has revealed that almost a 3rd of the exonerated people have confessed to a crime that they did not actually commit at the beginning of the interrogation investigator enters the room stands about 3 or 4 feet away. if the suspect looking
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down on the suspect and in a very direct and unequivocal way accuses him of to committing the crime. that's what happens when you're dealing with crooked cops. crooked people who don't care about other people's life so. they took an oath to help to save lives and fight for people and they did not do that not in mass once case. they were comfortable it was satisfied. they had a man and that's all they really wanted was the body. so they took. from 21 years and 12 days.
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99 he says while those 23. fortune are away. or direction i want to go on life and everything. was. kind of slow and when. it's more of a seasonal type of thing. so i look to supplement my income a little bit and i made a bad some bad decisions and going so awfully it with our car accident. some people myself for of the other. and. that's
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for i was at that time just trying to figure things out. were. that age 43 months and has spent 21 years of his life behind bars. in 1996 he's convicted of murder and sentenced to 50 years in prison at the time he's making a living by selling drugs in an apartment building in detroit. is accused of killing christina brown one of his young clients on the night of the 19th of january 1996. however on the night of the murder lamar was far from the scene of the crime.
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he was at home with his 6 year old daughter. more member waking up watching cartoons with my daughter that saturday morning and she woke me up and i was like mom we're watching cartoons and davey and i want to where my daughter saturday morning and. that's like i want to. you know perhaps the last day i was out. that saturday morning lamar monson is the 1st to arrive at the scene he finds the apartment in a state of chaos and then he sees the young christina brown lying motionless on the floor on january 20th 1906 lamar went for his afternoon shift to the apartment and he found the body of christina brown he knew her as crystal. he thought she was 17 years old it was a young tall young woman who does drive herself a 17. after she was 12 and she was another one of the dealers who dealt out of that
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apartment and what he found was this horrific bloody crime scene. were. she was in a state of needed medical attention and. or if it. was she was. she was waving at me and trying to say my name and i was told the nurse. just hold on i want to get you out. and i'm going to be long. and frantically. banging the knowledge doors and the apartment for asked to call the police or call him as the police came and lamar spoke to the police and the police immediately decided that he was their suspect and so on that day very day he was arrested in fact we have a police report where the detective basically says on the same day of the killing
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we can close this case if we can just get our monson to confess. i got a phone call. telling me that my son had been arrested for killing a young lady. i know that could never never never be possible from the training that he had had from the time he was born into 22 years when they took him away from me i was devastated i with. you know i couldn't sleep i walked the floor wondering what had happened why it happened and why would they choose. busy kristina brown dies a few hours later in hospital. the officers of the detroit police force take more
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monson to the station and begin to question her. questions like she was my girlfriend and she was my girlfriend she's more like the little sister of a bunch. we live in there i never live there in the one me i'm there. just stuff like. questioning was core from witness to suspect. part of the interview process is you're supposed to use what recalls the behavioral analysis interview. and in that if you use these techniques it's like you know you're watching a person's body language or you're watching the way that they say something or the way that the answer your questions there's also a series of 17 questions that each is that you can ask the person and you know
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based is that based on your answers on their answers and based on your observations you will be able to tell whether or not they're being deceptive or not they're guilty with over 80 percent accuracy. verify judgment i'm very it's like being a human lie detector test and the problem with that is really read itself the read people admit that is not based on any science whatsoever just based on their own observations the real science says it's baloney it doesn't work. and it when they've done experiments with it they pretty much show that the accuracy is like flipping a coin it's $5050.00. the read in. technique makes its debut in the sixty's it is revolutionary for police stations. john reed a police officer from chicago proposes
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a new and less brutal approach to interrogation. i think john reed was a reformer in many ways you have to understand that when reid came to prominence. the method that was used widely throughout the united states was what's called the 3rd degree police officers were feeding suspects into confessing to crimes they did or didn't commit. they were tuning them up they were using the rubber hose they were grilling them for hour after hour after hour and read to his credit knew that that was a way that was fraught with danger in that it might get false or unreliable confessions the problem is that he and. is today have never come to grips with act and psychological interrogation tactics can also
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produce false confessions. that the project was good for you the one you prefer or the like if you missed it or don't believe people what. was the response from the chief into a. different school should be a model which agrees that. this. is new the no must see that you presume this loop in the news media most few of them are used to it but the most honest opinion leading to changing going to spin bowling is an inning in their history of
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cities to. open their muster up because. they're good people pretty feel good and it's a good move to deal with more you more you would almost to. the whole truth in doing. so list on the for you and some other woman is the opinion. but i'm. also in wales. you know 2 the 2017 the german newspaper defense published an article claiming that the european union had lost 30000000000 euros as a result of its very anti russian sanctions. particularly affected eastern europe many polish fum as went broke and even
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committed suicide. attacks on our own time can succumb to as i was of on the get a moment without a plan will put on the political and on autonomous the things i like. and does it for the young victim to have to finance i'll be honest i'm going to get stuff doesn't on time as a kind of a new home for the stink it doesn't in that sense in the oh i'm in the pool in this and it's one song that's middle east and often has a small. on doesn't dance with all the folks and that's has become. the 1st problem is they have this analysis by which they tell their trainees that
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you can tell when someone's lying by the tone in their voice or by their posture or whether they sit rigid in their chair or relaxed whether they look at you and give you i contact or look away or look down whether they fold their arms fold their legs look up look left look right you name it it's a q and the retreat interrogator. has a whole list of body language behaviors and a verb. will be there so the suspects as i don't know that's considered to say if the suspect says. it's weird god i had nothing to do with this appeals to religiosity are considered deceptive behavior they lead their trainees to believe that they are lie detectors but they are human lie detectors and once you make that judgment don't turn back move on to interrogation.
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when i 1st entered into the vision you had a lot of officers that's what they were saying and you did it your cue there who you know it was bombard me with that as i'm in a tara geisha. arcus him i was just all over the place just devastated by what i've seen what was going on and then to get here and now you're trying to suggest that i committed the crime. the more monson's interrogation continues through the night as the hours go by the questions progressively turn into accusations so dros she sold rose for you. you killed her she was your girlfriend and all just creating a scenario that they wanted con despite what obvious attempting to
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relate to far as what i'm. so i would go back and forth and back and forth and that interrogation lasted maybe. 4 hours because if it. is important issue you seldom will find a false confession take it in an hour seldom will you find it in 2 hours when you look a false confession cases 121-516-1820 hours to be a pro. and at some point the average person does what an average rational person does they conclude that i need to get out of this situation desperate they hate it here among comfortable i'm stressed and the more i deny it the more they call me a liar and i just can't get out this way so they're looking for a way out of a bad situation.
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tired. confused. that's funny over which storm taken to. 9 floors and to turn. and so i'm up there ready so it's the world can't sleep k. rist. came believe was gone oh. aren't you just can't imagine i'm just americans describe. the process of interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind make them one comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials. now during most interrogation the suspect is not going to just sit there and listen to you while you develop your
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theme they're going to try to deny any involvement whatsoever but that should be expected many guilty people introduce their denials with permission phrases such as can i say one thing which is just listen to me but sir if i could only explain when the interrogator hears those phrases it's important to interject yourself and stop the person from continuing because you let him talk say the words i didn't do it and the more often a person says they didn't do it the more difficult it becomes for us. to get a confession. if you look at any interrogation out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat lie a lie a lie and it's back to back over and over and over and over and it's cutting the person off and like i said it is narrowing your options and giving you this perception that oh my god i am facing this guy knows the things that i'm guilty he
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has all the evidence i know that is bogus these witnesses didn't see me but they're lying on me and he's telling me that the only way that i can get a break from this is by telling him what he wants to hear. there so stressed and may have to do with how long they've been there may have to do with the fact that it's late at night they've been accused of being called a liar they've threatened promises of the maid whatever it is they get to a breaking point where they decide that it's in their best interest to confess at this moment it's in my better interest to confess them to continue denial. lamar munson sees that he is about to be caught in a trap police detective joan going places a file on the table. or the broader her
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office. and. she said there is shared a pile of files on this she mentioned where are you notice she was make a reference to those files being evidence against you against me and i. ok. i'm ok what that is book i haven't done anything and i don't know why i'm down here and i want to go basically. what was inside of this fight. anything. lamar monson tries to ignore her but american police officers have the right to lie to a suspect lying is a normal part of the process used to put suspects under pressure. i can lie. about the evidence i can tell i think i absolutely the courts allow me
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to live up to a point you know there's certain laws that are so outrageous that good records are going to let it but i can tell you all kinds of lies i can tell you that we have 3 or 4 we have 4 witnesses who say that they saw you take the money and you're going to my cock oftentimes it will come in with a file folder filled with papers doesn't matter what's in that file folder it could be take out menus from a restaurant ok and oftentimes there will be clipped on the top of that holder a d.v.d. ok and police officers will tell the suspect that there was a camera across the street that was filming the area where the crime occurred and that there are images on the d.v.d. so there's technological evidence that police officers sometimes use other times
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they'll claim that they've had they found for your prints or blood evidence or d.n.a. evidence imagine a suspect in an interrogation and they're there for again some period of time that is uncomfortable and the police now are lying about the evidence that's suspect may we know full well that he didn't do anything wrong but he's starting to feel trapped and overwhelmed by this presentation of incriminating evidence thinking i didn't do this but they're claiming they've got evidence and whether this is a set up or what i've got to find a better way out anyway. he has been the victim of a high pressure sales tactic knows what this feels like anybody who says that they would never ever confess to a crime that they didn't do they haven't been under this sort of pressure. these tactics are relentless for lamar monson time seems to stand still the police
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detective offers him what appears to be a way out. she was saying that she believed that i didn't do it and this she was willing to help me but i had to help her cope. so. began to give me a scenario. self-defense. she suggested or it probably helped my situation and then. she said if i would cooperate send a statement that i would be home by that time the next day. over a series of other techniques with the interrogator does in narrows down for the suspect. 2 choices to pass oath of them involve the suspect admitting their guilt but one paints the suspect as an evil person
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a monster a cold blooded remorseless killer and the other one provides an excuse for the suspect for why they committed the crime maybe it was self-defense maybe it was an impulsive act not a deliberate act not a premeditated act and over time you know with increasing pressure on the suspect. many suspects will accept the path of least resistance and accept a less heinous. explanation for why they can be taught to cry. during the theme we offer to the suspect psychological justification for the commission of the crime we don't legally justify it but we offer him a moral excuse that will minimize or justify in his own mind committing the crime and this should be done in a monologue format. it comes to the point where i'm doing this over and
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over and i start to see you getting to check to and i get to the point where i think i need to come in with the final question my job my goal of the interrogation is to limit your options and to give you the at least a temporary perception that your only option is to confess to this crime. that's the best route for you to take. legal process the words what we have a conversation we don't process literally what is said we process between the lines we process not what is said but what is implied when an interrogator says i think you're a good person i don't think you meant to do this i think it was an accident by the way i would have done the same thing you're thinking oh this is no big deal i can
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confess and that's my easy way out here. and that's the point at which people can fast. i was out of it and they're. just ready to whatever you want to me to do maybe decide i'm sinusoid it and my mind. turning that he would be able to. there was necessary to shorted out was innocent and i didn't turn into a crime because i didn't commit the crime. on the 30th of january 1996 at 6 o 2 am after 10 hours of interrogation detective ago in obtains a single signature from lamar monson in this document he explains that he involuntarily stabbed christina brown detective going and was subsequently removed from the homicide unit and later terminated from the detroit police and the reason she was removed from the homicide unit was because she was accused of fabricating
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