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in hungary 1116 or. so of the american german subsidiaries in hungary immediately became chinese investments so what we can do for how we know how so the thing is that we are always criticised. the so-called 16 plus one for months but no one raises the same question and the german chancellor under french president together meets the chinese leadership and so. you know. how do you explain that it is that. different tiers different sets of rules for different territorial number one this is double standards and number 2 that as i told you at the beginning making business with china is beneficial they don't like to have. a competition issue now the decision making is supposed to be based on consensus which is more than just looking for a compromise or foreign and bargain is actually derived a learned just recently that derives from the latin word for feeling together and
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filling a like in the other many of your interviews you keep saying don't pressure as don't criticize to look at yourself we have to be able to discuss that openly it looks like the old and the new you're somewhat different understanding of consensus do they well unfortunately there have been some debates between the. european countries we absolutely are against. putting the member states of the european union into 2 different leagues. of accession because we are all equal members of the european union our interest is to make do european union united and strong again the question is how to get there there are 2 basic approaches one approach. should make a brussels strong and in the meantime the member states this concept called like the united states of europe. which we totally reject and oppose our concept is
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different because they think that the e.u. can only be stronger again if the member states are getting stronger and stronger so for us a strong european union must be based on strong member states member states which are proud of their national identity and we stick to their religious historic and cultural heritage i think this debate this question is particularly evident when it comes to the issue of migration and what strikes me is that i think much of that debate is rooted not only in attitudes towards the present policies but also in the past the e.u. was set up as a project that is specifically aimed at avoiding a certain kind of past germany's past 1st and foremost don't you think that it's perhaps institutionally set up to ignore other countries historic sensibilities you know for us the migration issue is is number one a security issue. and number 2 issue for an empty issue but it's also utah you keep talking about civilization you're right and you seem to be very much attached to
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your definition of hungry as it is or as it used to be yeah well actually if you would like to maintain unger is a hungary and country and they would like to preserve europe as a european continent and the don't accept the statement that european continent is a christian continent is challenge to read with. statement to be challenged you know what exactly by the way you mean by that because there is a great degree of diversity within christianity there is a great degree continuing to believe in judaism christianity and islam i mean what what do you mean by saying christian content well for us the christian heritage is very important our country has been a christian one for more than 1000 years the european union was established was established on the basis of christian the market what is it specifically what it's like for us equality of men and women. mutual respect the respect virk the forward progress going to come from performance and such kind of things
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and do things to values and not present in other religious traditions or in atheism beachy also sometimes oh i don't want to. religions or other of. their civilization what i know is that europe was based on these values and these values are definitely the christian values now as you alluded before i. don't seem to be troubled of creating an image of a country that is not very welcoming of migrants in fact i think you are consciously trying to create that image but this is definitely not how the germans would like to be seen is this ultimately a conversation about values a conversation about troubled past or some phobias or is it a conversation about power well 1st of all we would like to preserve our right to make a decision on a. home between would like to leave together and this is number one number 2 we preserve our rights as a super and country to make a decision on our own who would like to allow to enter the territory of our country
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on whom we do not want to look. at the territory or country when it was about the migration crisis you know there were 400000 illegal migrants marching through our country while eating garbage order showing totally no respect to or rules regulations expectations regarding behavior or public areas of blocking highways and the railroads so you know the younger people had a very clear instruction towards the government not to have these phenomenon the repeated in the future and we have to act accordingly that's why we have built the fence on our border that's why our military and police is there and that's why no illegal migrant was able to enter the territory or a country just said that. people need to have the right of determining what kind of country they want to be but some people would respond to that when the you are joining the european union you're already committed to a certain type of future to certain type both country and to
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a certain set of values what would you say to that but actually when you become a member of the european union then by definition you exercise part of yourself running together. with the european union and it's obvious you know putting pressure on the member states to change their identity or to allow people to the territorial given country whom they do not want to a low this is not a european value now following the recent success of the elections the. president of your country had a very interesting statement to make he said that gave us the task of stopping immigration all across europe and i think that seems like a very broad interpretation of he is monday and your. it's argued that the germans or somebody else should not tell they can gary and who should live in their countries don't you think you should not speak for the germans i think illegal
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migration should be stopped. if you are in the results you will see that in countries where there are more than 2 parties which is $27.00 of. the highest public support almost 53 percent number 2 is the polish law and justice party who received almost 46 percent then the. people in different areas. so the top 4 parties having a very strong legal. agenda illegal migration had a very serious impact on the entire european union look at the figure since 2015 there are of 33 major terrorist attacks. taking place in the european union committed by persons with the migratory bird grown killing more than 300 people or you look at these which were created in the western european societies you see that they pose a security risk and they culture risk as well because you know i mean such kind of decisions the symbols of christian faith should be taken all from public
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institutions is is really. their religion it's also faced similar pressure. for example there is a pressure off downplaying islamics and i don't know i don't know about any islam country. of the muslim faith was forced to take. any kind of. places but anyway you know when it comes to let's say migration in order to address demography. labor market challenges i think that must be left as a national competence we do all the member states we do not need any kind of migration when it comes to be. allowed the germans and others to make that decision for them i mean you know we've never judged them. you know prime minister was talking about stopping. illegal migration you know i mean if
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a country i mean if we have to leave it doesn't. to make a decision how you would like to address. your challenges this think that. is a bad answer. for 5 years under enormous pressure. to act according to our friends and. people. even the legally i think it's one thing to rail against the establishment it's another thing to offer an alternative to your party is now still a major voting bloc within the european parliament you are part of the establishment is that going to change after. there is a very serious debate. which is still forming the biggest group in the european parliament should go forward now the status quo has been broken. it was enough leaders of the people's party and the socialist party came together
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behind closed doors made some deals and. you were also part of. this is over because the. decrees in the way the. question of the rise which. biggest parties should. our position is. is unacceptable. very successful. political spectrum and. people's party in the future either so we'll see how this. plays. and we take part in the debate. which way this party group should go in the future mr let us take a very short break now but maybe i'll be back in just
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a few moments statement. on. the project was good but you'll run your birth like if you missed it or don't blame people but. the response from old people. give them a fish i assure you. that. this. is new the know you presume this lawyer. you must feel to meet him he used to do this in both the us and us. going to spin bowling is an inning of their history but a few days to. come over there must.
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be as good as you know do you know what more you more you'll. get the whole truth in doing. so. you will meet someone who knows the. meaning. 2 of the most. and also way as. you know to the 27 team the german newspaper developed published an article claiming that the european union has lost 30000000000 euros as a result of its very anti russian sanctions. particularly expected easter. many polish films went broke and he committed suicide . because of those of.
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them do you have to find out why the almost i'm going to. have other kind of unknown. and then let's see in the oh i'm pulling. the smith. welcome back to worlds apart that hungary's foreign affairs minister peter minister the current government has
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a blossoming relationship with the trumpet ministration the you've publicly praised it many times for competing interests when push comes to shove do you think the trumpet administration would be more receptive to hungary's national interest for example the e.u. has been so far but actually one president elected that's was kind of a fresh air in the european politics the leader of the united states of america 1st and gave us the chance to strengthen our position hungary 1st and you know we based our foreign policy on the principle of mutual respect so we respect the national interest of others but we expect others to respect the national interest of ours as well that was not the case with the former u.s. administrator live let's talk about it because i think one potential bone of contention between the u.s. and the americans. is your ana just supplies for the time being you're getting much of your natural gas from russia by ukraine but the americans obviously are very eager to replace that or at least supplement that with that own supplies which are
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more expensive and all of the guaranteed how is it in hungary's national interest to replace something that's cheaper and more reliable something that's more expensive still to me is because many of those fields and all of that peroration and yet the situation is even. more simple because currently hungary is a country. which is one looked as no access to any kind of port and the country which have made its home by building the pipelines to the border but we are surrounded by countries who have not completed their home was just give you 2 ideas number one. is still not building the port in the crook number 2 there was a gas explored discovered on the rumanian territorial black sea or the right of exploitation is. which is an american company and the wind the
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beaches in austria they have not made their final investment decision yet to exploit the current is there we were told to respect even the very complimentary of both of those projects which i totally agree with you on that he had operational and you were very eager to see them moving ahead in fact david corn and i think he is the. question. on a number of occasions that hungry a must that versified center just supplies would be happy to do so but there's no physical law what can i do well i mean that's that's still ongoing i think they remain the unfilled at least is still on the discussion but my point to you is why is it not ok for brussels to tell you what hungry must do and why is it ok for washington to before the american ambassador to tell you what you must do you know you're only going to talk to the americans very. openly and very honestly so when we sit together the american ambassador in budapest whom i respect very much i tell him the thing is that physically we can not diversify why because of.
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course because you or your company and the austrians have not made their final investment decision in the room so currently there are 4 friends and allies us austria rumania and. there we can diversify into future or not but you know he says and operate the industry you cannot make promises and plans you need gas for that and if i can buy gas from croatia because there is no construction works and if i cannot buy gas from rumania because find the investment this is not me i cannot do anything goes' i just continue cooperation and there is delays in the years mandated projects made hungry consider extending agreements with gas from do you see that as a temporary as a kind of band-aid until the freedom gas becomes available or is it something more long term i have to tell you honestly but i mean if the american investor comes to
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you 6 months down the line and says ok exxon mobil is investing i am going to put the plug on the gas. when it comes to gas supply what matters to us to be safe i mean predictable and to be cheap that's a competition so we have to take care of both strategic and tactical interests as well and you know it's a competition so whichever is the cheap whatever is the source is the cheaper and whatever source is more reliable we. the minister and none of those projects that you mentioned operational yet and yet you already put your. contract with gas from into question you were considering whether to extend it and not and this is my question has expired i mean that's another question is has expired because the end of this year or next year delay does it expires but you made it sound that russia is your own. 3rd there were maybe a 2nd safe option if the americans are not there and i'm asking you whether it is fair to russia. well there may be members he never ever while you were at
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a conference i think it was in texas when when you said that you are eager to diversify if the those at the change you said there but there's if it changes and not even put in place why are you discussing them i mean the you said that you need to be safe and stable but that infrastructure does not even exist why you speaking about it that's why that's why i was annoyed you're going to the same level with what russia has been supplying to you for decades no one considers on the same level i mean a continuous dialogue with. this morning i started meeting mr north and. they go to see your meter we have agreed that mr miller. you need for next year. is already delivered this year and view be stored in hungary they have already agreement of next year's supply so we are in continuous negotiations i would like to state here that's what we have agreed so far from was
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delivered has been a reliable partner for us but in the meantime we are definitely interested in any kind of possibility for diversification of their area if for example x. and mobile decides to finally in the vast in into that the remaining failed you would. exclude and turning back on gas from i mean these events are calls you and says come on guys you know. very well if you put these kinds of questions i don't care about investors calling on the instructing me because i always reject any kind of initiative the ambassador of you have talked about the car and drove us to budapest has never made any kind of struck me so this is number one number 2. you know we i mean hungary and companies have. hungary. when it comes
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to the tools and these are national interests so if there's an opportunity to buy gas from a different source. competitive price. that puts another situation of this is. the 3rd. and diversifying the. sources excludes each other. service with the turkish. be operational like $21021.00 because if this is the case that's another form of diversification diversification of routes and they are less i mean. russian them and then i assume it gets done the same level as the freedom gas from the united states well actually . it's a market issue you know that in this day and age particularly with the trumpet
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ministration not everything is the market issue i mean they they bring politics into almost everything and putting the energy issue aside the trumpet ministration is pretty open about threatening european companies european institutions with sanctions and undercutting the. cold the full do you think they will ever come a moment when hungry will have to choose freely choose politically and economically but in brussels and washington well i hope we'll never get to a physician and i tell you why. we have a very open economy. our export of g.d.p. ratio is higher than 85 percent so whatever happens on the international markets or national economy performance pretty much 78 percent or export goes to the european union member states our number one export market outside of the european union is the united states. debate. the e.u. u.s. economy and trade and investment cooperation is harmful to us number one investor
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in germany number 2 investor is the united way to say nobody likes choosing between mum and dad. sometimes drives and he's very particular about it so when push comes to shove do you feel more aligned do you feel your future and the future hungary's more aligned with the european union the american national. are members of the european union for sure so for our interest is to make european union strong again but i really do believe that if you want to make european union stronger that needs a good cooperation with the united states so i rather instead of making fantasies about the choose i love to concentrate on successful negotiations between the u.s. and the european union now we talked about the ears and evelyn's about smaller countries dealing with china but the top of the assertion is far more hawkish when it comes to corporation of the beijing and they are reframing it from an economic security issue and as a member of nato how much room for maneuver do you think hungry has in dealing with
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china you know in this regard i'm always very honest with my american friends and. i myself supervise the intelligence as well as foreign minister of foreign affairs minister and so far. i have not received information. on the way of our economy. of the american intelligence through the year american. you know. evidences. trying to whoever else or anyone else. harm or risk our national security it would be absolutely sure whatever harms our national interest security or whatever we reject if you go. we try to cooperate i give you one other example our american colleagues. the
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president you know. china pretty much. goes. infrastructure. because the 2 main. provider a company in hungary. and you know who are those 2 companies. and so the number one german and the number one british telecommunications company so whenever they they . way. the germans and the british finally if i may minister for a small country congress seems to be very successful at playing at the differences of big powers but it seems that those differences are getting a little bit out of hand i wonder what's your broader outlook on where the world is having i am more concerned or more excited well. excited because changes are going
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on and i'm pretty sure these changes are extremely quick comprehensive. changes. you know make decisions and. take advantage of the changes we as i told you. on the principle of mutual respect and respect others respect respect from others as well and we try to take as many changes as it's just possible for the benefit of our people it's always a pleasure thank you very much because. i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages the. same place same time here.
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