he lost family members and friends in the towers in the fire at the towers he's obviously upset about that because of the lack of support that has been in the area in terms of health and social care and you know just basic structural support for anyone at all he's feeling rather upset basically unfortunately his anger got the better of him and one point he was jailed for strangling. well yeah he basically he had an altercation with a member of staff who manages the gram false site because the plastic covering that they've put on it keeps coming off despite repeated assurances that they've fixed it now and it didn't matter how strong the winds got that it would stay on this keeps happening and frankly you know it's like ripping a plaster of for an open wound it leads to this is a long time after the fire the actual top woollens and so on on the building the full power comes off all the time it comes off all the time and the only time there is the remote possibility of

a pile when it's just seems to peel away now there may be repeated promises that they were going to fix this frankly when when reese questioned the guy about what was going on the guy was rather a choose should we say time and respects in the last 10 lashed out now that what's really bad is that they have completely made peace about this reeses apologize they moved past it those 2 people and yet for some reason this was still brought to court and he was still charged and he is still languishing in prison at the moment whilst those who are really responsible for that $200.00 foot there is you know less than 50 meters from reese's house are walking free will when it happened there was a lot of mainstream media a conversation about the tragedy people talking about it being emblematic of jury live demo sturdy and so forth what happened it breaks that news just sort of it helps the country forgot about it well i think the attitude seems the prevailing attitude nowadays seems to be you know why have. people got over you know that's an

attitude that we've heard from members of the council as well i mean code referred to some of the comments the members of the council have made in the past so you can use council officials unnamed of racism calling it the afrikaner of kids in chile although it was the last. caliphate of cans and yes all of that starts in minutes of one of the meetings that's absolutely beyond a doubt that that was said because that was said in a meeting in front of dozens of witnesses at the time it was in relation to allowing child refugees into the bar basically saying if they did that it would turn the bar into an islamic caliphate you know frankly our brother an islamic caliphate and you know some neo liberal you know quasi state where basically you don't really have the rule of law you have the rule of money and that's all that talks and you know that's all that's ever listened to and it's ridiculous that to reason may have the cheek and share on gas city to try and claim credit for her actions in relation to graeme felt how i mean on her racism she said that she was

against racism obviously in her resignation speech and she used her resignation speech to talk about the setting up of the independent inquiry into the tragedy the search for the truth that she made a dick a key platform of her legacy to the search for the search for the truth you know basically she had to be dragged kicking and screaming to even agree we're still awaiting for the diverse panel to be appointed for being going to the panel in a 2nd but you saw her when she visited to i was the one who called her a coward time and it made the news because it was it was shockingly it was shockingly tasteless it was shockingly crude and it was shockingly crass of her you know i mean there are often insult her silver to visit to give sympathy the way that she visited there was no tact or diplomacy for a politician you know she certainly doesn't know how to turn on the charm i mean i've heard i've heard people say in the past you know she's been compared to a robot. frankly i find that insulting to robots well in fairness to her which is

gone now she's she's not on he's about to leave and she did set up the inquiry phase one is now over what do you make of this judge mr moore brick some on mobic i mean if you look if you look at the way that people macpherson when he was appointed to the stephen lawrence inquiry i'm hoping that some and more because on a similar journey because you know i mean facing at the time was seen as a stream of the right wing he was seen as you know an establishment character who was absolutely not going to criticize the police and you know he would contain the issue for the government and you know he was absolutely scathing of the many gave us a phrase which we use that they stay which is institutional racism you know which inspired me to use the phrase institutional indifference ok well that's optimistic some kind of hope there because i mean after all what the judge has been the interest on the

over ruled for social cleansing whether in fairness to him there i mean he couldn't really do anything other than and interpret the law at that point you know he didn't have the discretion basically to for one of about well look at the spirit of the law he had to interpret the letter of the law in this regard he has a lot more interpret you know he's a wide he does have a wider remit you know we have seen some movement from him i mean that the fact that he you know depends panel getter is well west that well we're still waiting on that you know i blame the government on that issue as much as i would blame him in that regard you know it does seem that he really don't think he's doing what it is the community wanted what he said today on the way sickly i mean up to the judge it was the same with it was the same with macpherson it's like you know even with the best will in the world the fact that you know you're a privately educated. you know elderly white english judge gives you a completely. from life experience to someone who's grown up on the streets and get

stopped and searched when they want to go to the shop for toilet paper face in need of it the time is basically people to hold his hand and talk him through some of these issues and explain things to him rather bluntly him rather clearly who actually had some weight so he was forced to listen to them i think more bit would benefit from the same he's used to being the top dog in the courtroom you know everyone sort of defers to him in this instance you could say it 1st me in that he had with us where someone sneaked a recording and you could say i'm arguing say no you can you know you can't say this i will you know that when you gave evidence i gave written evidence thankfully i didn't have to go and gave i didn't have to give testimony i may do for phase 2 because obviously involved a lot more in the incompetence of the counsel in the for the year proceeding you know for years going back than i was would sort of as on the night thankfully i was able to get away from the area about 3 34 am in the morning i went to stay with

a friend of mine in west palm park one of my neighbors and a kid i genuinely pity those who had to stay there and sleep on the grass on the estate they slept there that night under the sun to that smoldering wreck of a tower as people were dying in the ok we'll it's an illusion $128.00 households are living on the walkways to. myself included no no re houses a would you think of it should we said that just as we approached the 2 year anniversary on friday police interviewed people finally for criminal we knew that they'd interviewed 11 people i don't get why this was really announced i can't help but think that you know it somehow somehow deliberately been rian and started to steal the thunder from emma dent codes back bench the bay or perhaps to distract attention from racist officers and councillors at kensington and chelsea council and their general incompetence in this matter sent. neither if he would deny that

in the news management we only know what we do i mean not many people may know about these property sales they made 129000000 pounds from property deals loans oh to see how you were and so what. does it feel like to be there and what does it feel like for the others to be there knowing that your cancel your local council got 129 and i mean nobody in just 3 years they made 129000000 that's 17000000 pounds a year they were making on property deals that is an absolutely ridiculous figure but you did receive some help from the county if we really i mean the i'll tell you what but how piracy because i paid my council tax info because i was always hopeless we got though i would always pay in full at the start of every year because i paid it for when the credit crunch hit in 2000 and day i got a 50 pound refund and that 100 pounds refund from the council and that was because i was someone who paid my council tax in full people who actually were on council

tax benefit other ones you should have got that 100 pound back i was working at the time i didn't bloody need it you know i had no need for it whatsoever and i did not get it someone who lives in knightsbridge you know was 100 pounds to someone up there is a little bit of extra keen law that day you know or maybe some organic orange juice it means nothing to people judging amy thank you well we invited the lawyer for reese morris martin davidson on the show but he didn't get back to us in time for this broadcast he has said in the past that mr morris grew up in the shadow of grenfell he is a very active campaign about what happened on the day is that feelings and tensions ran over board he lost his temper as simple as that the complainant and mr morris and their own good terms they've mended their grievances after the break as children have nightmares waiting to be read house we speak to the opposition leader of the richest council in britain about the fight against new liberalism in kensington and chelsea britain and the world and justice for grand final 48 hours ahead of the grenfell silent war what can britain learn from bangladesh and its risk. to munches lethal skyscraper inferno see the faces of the

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lives of $72.00 and made over $100.00 households homeless there is still more than $150.00 buildings across the u.k. that have the same grunfeld planning and with no replacement in sight is the 5th richest nation on earth waiting for another tragedy joining me now is labor leader of the kids in chelsea council at mason beth thanks for coming back on to your county the leader of the opposition do you know the residents have trust in in kensington and chelsea as to how the government along the council have responded to the grand catastrophe no i mean globally no they've done a few things but i mean we still have the government. haven't properly responded to the toll to the judith hackett recommendations and she said in her review over well over a year ago that the. building and fire regulation system was completely unfit for purpose it was a recipe for the builders making up as to go along basically but we have this argument about still this infantile argument about how many people have been housed

how many people have not been housed in front of you were given jail or smith says a 100 for the m.p.'s wouldn't go do we try to get over this or says 128 who's right well of course you can tell a smith is not. looking at the people who are what they call. homeless people who are homeless but are sleeping on somebodies couch they're not counted in and plus the last also counting in people of severe trauma and mental health problems who were who lived in the side of the fire actually in the town itself so little that using different so this isn't arguing about us just how does those people and stop are going about the figures but no nobody really trusts the council of the government i mean the council is trying to close down the grenfell recovery scrutiny committee which was a committee set up to the council's front line response to all things because the job has been done presumably now they want to mainstream everything perhaps they think the job has been done. i mean i don't it tells us that they don't really

understand either what happened at the file what happened to people and if they think that 2 years means that it's the job is done i mean the trauma is really just setting in though we had one of the well known campaigners commit suicide last december we still got people on the suicide watch list brazenly used her resignation speech to say she was presumably proud of the reaction and you got to admit that the british government has said that they will pay for the cladding on towers like that in grand fell although i understand 90 percent of the tower blocks in this country have some sort of planning they haven't replaced all the way to 2 years to say that a fire could have happened any time and in fact it could happen any time now and they're only talking about a.c.i.m. flooding anyway and lots of other combustible materials on blocks on hospitals on all sorts of private buildings that's a sea of private buildings owners out there who as you know i've been arguing for the last 2 years about who should pay for this they don't want to pay for it and

want to give it to the leaseholders a little old to say what it was legal at the time they're only consulting now after 2 years as much right said on another station they're doing absolutely nothing there talking talking talking talking about better fire safety getting rid of combustible climbing fire brigades and they're doing absolutely nothing fabregas union yes i mean this is a failure of new liberalism i understand the you're part of a campaign to save north kensington fire station make it 2013 which is part of the austerity cuts and it was cans it didn't work at a fire station crews that were 1st on the scene 2 years ago underwood 1st on the scene and they were on the scene at the lab or in the lab or grove train disaster in 1909. of course close the whole number of fire stations in london boris johnson did that who might be prime minister he cut $45000000.00 of the fire service in london in the long run mean more londoners getting burnt to death why do you think it became so emblematic of near liberal austerity after the after the crash that a lot of the cost of the. on to people down here it was a complete can in

a sense i mean we know that in the last 2 years for example it is 10 percent in this country about 14 percent richer you'll need to look at this through the 2 worlds you know the world of the stock market and the banks and the multi global companies who run everything no who have user democracy as it were there is no vision for this country apart from the race to the bottom we are now but still a 2007 wage levels we've got 4000000 people in england who are effectively homeless 2000000 in this country americans spend way over trillion a year on arms they are bombing and stuffing 7 countries at the moment whilst china are using that sort of money to go out in the world economically regenerate whole areas instead of bombing and stuffing them while the british government would deny that i think electing britain for foreign wars i'm going to ask you then because the amazon washington post has obtained a leaked leaked or your recording trying to get hold of it here are going

underground suggest state of the us secretary of state by compare former head of the cia saying that the us needs to bring bring him down really before he becomes prime minister nothing surprises me but the us i magine have the mighty us is of the labor leader of the u.k. and this is a man that stood against its african military judge in the south african apartheid campaign he has been to gaza and stood against the israeli army and what i mean is yes he has went there and been involved in some of those actions way back in the past they know that this man means what he says and he will not be swayed by a government and an order that is completely trashing our people's lives any time soon generate carbon will be a number 10 and you know they know that for the 1st time in decades we will have a government in this country that will look after the interests of people in this country and not look after the americans and the friends and the toll. look after

their people in in business we love god and that's what that's what terrifies them about the news and thank you. well in the next 48 hours thousands of people across the u.k. will march to remember the 72 people who died as a result of the grenfell tower 2 years ago where samuel's involved in justice for grandville joins me now thanks so much for coming on would like to think of itself as a great 1st world country there was a tragedy in bangladesh in march which went to 6 people perish in the effort terribly bangladesh capital dhaka people were arrested they've already been arrested you would you think of that discrepancy that people have been arrested but no one in authority has been arrested that's actually a credible breach of trust between citizens and local and central government i think it actually sends a very strong message that they certain people who actually carry weight and the others who it doesn't matter i have to also say that it's only in the past few days

just as we approach this 2 year anniversary there we saw another fire in london another resident saying that they'd previously sold an investigation into fire risk what did you make of the. the fire and embarking in as i think it was quite horrendous to actually see the images of reminders for many of the community especially coming up to the 2nd anniversary but i think again what a dream forced is the fact that actually fire safety is not taken seriously because the residents actually complained about being concerned about safety issues you know it just demonstrates that actually we haven't got regulations that were robust enough to actually protect people in the building industry you know putting wooden balconies you know i mean i'm a lay person i'm. narcotics but for me it doesn't make any sense to put

a wooden balcony on there will be an investigation all the thankfully there are no fatalities we did invite the council of the richest council in britain people to come over the tory council they said no one was available but they said no one would have intentionally put lives at risk and no one foresaw the grenfell tragedy . no one foresaw. i think that indicates a real what we call institutional into friends indicates a lack of duty of care it indicates a kind of carelessness too in terms of your responsibility for. you or the local population the tenants of grenfell tower one housed ultimately by the council even though they had. you know a nick and elmo the kids in chelsea tends management organization responsible for that but at the end of the day it was councils responsibility they made the

decision to save money and put a cheaper cladding on. they made a whole range of decisions that actually meant that grenfell was a death trap. there is an international dimension here what was your reaction when the tories on the council they've appointed a company called e-com or a call. the company that previously got 830000000 pounds for iraqi army contracts after tony blair's war in iraq they will be checking on soil contamination around the grenfell area from from now on or from a little before from now on to the subsidiary was done for price fixing in a us nuclear facility what do you make of this company checking on whether the soil around granville is currently polluted or no well again it raises concerns for the community in terms of trust we've. done our homework we also know you don't know

the facts that you've just explained and you know we are concerned as a community that actually the government is prepared to take on a company. with a business. you know the poor the procurement was not done appropriately to get the contract where you know we want explained how the contract was procured was it put out to tender apparently not. so the media the. get the council's view on that i knew that you also been outspoken actually about the retrofitting of sprinklers what did you make of the scottish council done the city council saying they weren't going to retrofit sprinkler systems to buildings we hear this again and again the fire brigades actually off the grid for quite recently i think it was in february or march any cotton led a campaign to have sprinklers. fitted you know sprinklers save lives

you know that they actually suppress the fire they don't put out a fire but they suppress it so what would be the reason for not doing that if it isn't a cost implication if this always a cost implication when it comes to working class people's lives you know they are they not prioritized and so you begin that frustration that we as a community. feel that following ground for this seems to be a real reluctance to put in place measures like community law richard front you know for to sprinklers you know more than one access fire escape this is a real reluctance and the dragging of the feet to implement this which for us means that we're never going to get justice because justice has to be about a real change a change not just for our community but for the whole country parcels thank you

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