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joining me here today thank you so i guess i'll start with you what do you think what do you give comments by timing a gold i mean she called it a dangerous lie this idea that we will women. sort of like you know we are we going to exercise and should we exercise them if we do are we allowed to wear nice things while doing it i think it's a vicious cycle of people who maybe are overweight or need to be healthier want to work out so you want to look good when you work out meaning a because you know when you feel good about yourself you're more likely to do something but also workout equipment can be dangerous you don't want loose clothing that gets stuck in a barbell or 2nd machine and then disaster ensues. but that same time they're telling you no no your body can't wear that nice tight spandex and stuff so then you're in this vicious cycle of these people want to be healthier they want the clothes to wear and then nike or other women and you know they're making them and people are going no no don't wear it yeah the water is most of you don't go into the kitchen i think it's interesting too that she's commenting on
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a marketing campaign from 90 and that's the whole point of they were trying to do something that was different that was out there and that would appeal to a larger audience so the fact that she's even commenting about it or saying something like about it shows that what they're doing is successful so i think it's notable that they're making a campaign like that but it's also going to be interesting to see what other companies follow suit in that and if it becomes a new trend and then all of a sudden nike is going to have to look for a new marketing campaign to go off of everyone else is doing it and it's not so unique anymore yeah i friended story i find it funny because they're you know close this is always a big discussion amongst women is finding clothes that fit and whether your you know a size 0 or you're a size 16 there's this weird world where if you don't fit into one of those 2 little boxes there's that there's sort of nothing for you i want to have you i find it funny because the diet industry seems to get a pass it's always this way you should you have body positive clothes you shouldn't have body positive and yet these same people are so worried about women's health
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are now going after things like shake all a-g. or whatever like shakes. as somebody who calls them. what you why are we going after that if it's really about health is that what it's about or is it about only it's getting effect where. i think it's that part where they're like use our t's use our coaching systems that plays in that diet culture because that idea that thin is fit and that's not necessarily the case and it's sad because you're putting this idea in people's heads that it is in thin is and you need to be both you can be heavy and in very good shape you can be thin and be in very bad shape you can be on healthy and i think the fact that people pay into this it also screws your mental psyche a little bit because you girls growing up thinking you know i saw that a girl going she's going to go to the gym or lose weight so many pay attention to her because that idea that if she's not thin enough yeah she's not going to get the
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attention that's just wrong and it is interesting to see like these marketing campaigns like she called you don't focus on you know the health of the matter but instead focus on this image that you want to look like and so it's interesting to see ok we may have marketing campaigns right now though will go to try to look for like if you look at night you like they're going to look for average size women well what if all companies do that and then all of a sudden they start scaling back and pushing for really thin women on their mannequins because is that something the majority of the culture wants to see do they want to you know see things that they want to aspire to be more so than what you know right now we may be saying that we want to look at something that looks more like us but if we get better we're going to have been go the opposite route yeah i think that's actually a good way to look at it you want to have you want people to aspire to something we want you know associate how do you want to start something healthy and something interesting and i know you know you're the keyboard warriors is like to say well comments a lot especially working you know and feel like t.v.
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on everything on your appearance and now you have women maybe who you know don't want that to just be the sole focus and they want to be healthy for their children . grandchildren and just be in their lives and i think that's good we should be shaming them and pushing these hoops he's actually no more and literally one of the things i also wanted to get on to talk about healthy women it was the u.s. women's the women's world cup there is something monumentally sexist in my mind of claiming that the women of thailand's team have to be protected from from a loss by you know where i'm sorry who are the snowflakes because i think it's where i think it's a great system this idea of like. so many points against the nation. i've never her i've never heard of more ridiculous saying that these types the thai women are so delicate i don't think it's funny that they that people don't think it's sexist or they don't see anything wrong with the commentary saying you know should a lot up on them the thai team themselves came out said this isn't we don't feel
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disrespected we don't feel like this is wrong we didn't play as well they were not as good as them and even alex morgan went over and comforted the goalie after the last like this wasn't like a ha ha ha ha rubbing in your face kind of thing it's sports and this is a game this is a world tormented you kind of expect them not to celebrate and i think like you said cheer welcome to sports i mean we've all rooted for different teams that we know that sometimes our favorite team goes up against a team that is way better than and they don't come out on top and so it's interesting to see that the conversation has shifted to doubt away from the fact that we have a really incredible women's team that we could be talking about and celebrating but it is interesting to see that now they've still found something to criticize even when they're really good at the sport and you have girls who this is their 1st world cup mallory pugh roosevelt they scored their 1st gold and they're you know parents fans watching should they not be excited i mean if i scored my 1st world cup goal i want to celebrate whether was goal number 10 or goal number 13 you know
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it's an accomplishment when you see n.f.l. players who are known for their celebratory dances in the end zone something that people look forward to so it is interesting to see is the. it's a different bias when it comes to women is this something that's going to continuously as we go on will you i mean you're in the sports world what you know how are people reacting to this you get both sides a spectrum you the canadian answer you actually things is incredibly disrespectful that they are celebrating after goal like 8 but you don't look at the team you don't ask do they have a particular goal in my name is not the goal to rack up a goal differential will matter if it comes down to it at the end of the day so the more gold you have the better that goal differential is going to be for you but you know out morgan is now in the running for the golden boot at the women's world cup she has 5 goals in that game alone maybe that's her personal problem and maybe that's something she wants to watch you say to time to pack like granted there are mental teams that play you know the 3 schools in the run up a 72 to 3 score but we don't see the exact type of criticism you just see maybe
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they shouldn't schedule those teams not stop. i look at all this and we have this idea of you know it's all from like what women wear while we do sports to all and to any final thoughts or anything you want to cut i talk about any of this all together how does this all fit together and is there's a point where there seems to be so many rules of that women are supposed to follow and be mindful of so that we don't make people uncomfortable with ari this. well having to a certain extent to take all of it so seriously because the end of the day everyone's going to have an opinion and a lot of people are pushing a different agenda whether they're talking about criticizing women for what they're doing on the field or for what they're wearing like it's just important to remember that the end of the day those are still people in this about much more than just what they're wearing or whether they scored too many goals against another team and their gender. i think at the end of the day you're going to always have the you know social media trolls the keyboard warriors the think we're going to fix this is
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just it's being done standing is this i'm going to have war or world cup with the news what are you so angry about. it's strange i think we. we are so overly sensitive about certain things and people become overly sensitive about women in general and when you know there's either sports or clothing or something it's always this idea that we have to be careful because we don't want to upset the apple cart and i say whatever what you know what what good came from from her timing like nothing changes and not finding that your own limits you know much of the beginning is this idea of we will blow our own limits out of the water we're the ones who decide those limits not a food critic from a british. newspaper and certainly not you know canadian sports announcers so i want to thank you know. really good today and they gallery thank you so much regina him and rachel blevins thank you so much for coming on today. as we go to
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break off watch yourself or get to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered on facebook and twitter sarah false as our dot com coming up and for i will give you her section and perspective as he talks about the toxicity of the media's obsession with masculinity and why one missouri senator is convinced social media is a parasite to washington. to . be able to show us the real will come you star will just normal drug lords. of the real world will you welcher about your body noticing your old sometimes or. the other was a. filter said some of the points awarded was to be with
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the weapon once missed and then what happened on 3 swung at the observations didn't hit him i never saw any contact with. any kind of went back to where they were so the officers back here there try again 15 feet apart at this point and that's when the officer is gone and he did it on 3. where did you work. well. in many u.s. states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution and most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor of. there are some people because of what they do have given up their rights is this some of these unproven. ratios is it going to take before we. realize this is not working and we actually do something about it.
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in the never ending rush of life and the dazzle of news media here in the 21st century it's easy to lose our footing and stumble through the pain glass window of reason and objectiveness where where then will we no longer find ourselves quickly falling into a void of conformity and irrationality this is why we need to always keep the path the one of us illuminated with the glowing silver screen of a little perception and perspective oh. all right my friends today would start things off with a little toxic masculinity yes for those of you living under a baby boomer rock toxic masculinity is according to the good men project the cultural ideal of manliness where the strength is everything while emotions are a weakness where sex and brutality are yardsticks by which men are measured well
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supposedly feminine traits which can range from emotional vulnerability to simply not being hyper sexual are the means by which your status as a man can be taken away in other words toxic masculinity is every bully from out from pretty much every 1980 s. teen movie from gift 10 to johnny lawrence busy but my friends. apparently all the folks who grew up watching johnny lawrence blocked daniel son's crane kicker cheered when biff tannen stole the sports almanac in the war and are now taking offense to modern cultures current condemnation of toxic masculinity recently writer and speaker matt walsh pop positive in the daily wire that toxic masculinity actually saved the world in world busy war 2 writing on the anniversary of d.-day that quote well $24000.00 of those kinds of men went charging into a hurricane of bullets and blood on this day 75 years ago they went all the way to die or kill or both these were violent men rough men toxic men toxic at least
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those who oppress the innocent and opposed freedom well joining me now to discuss whether toxic masking at least save the world is the. big picture holland book professor of journalism georgetown university chris chambers and the host of the news with rick sanchez the one and only rick sanchez all 3 men you know we're all going to grunt together do you want. me to go i want to start at the mr wallace's. contention that the $24000.00 soldiers who landed at normandy were filled with this toxic mass killing that we are weaker today for not pushing men to quote be like them be a man and be who you are because as long as there is evil in this world we all need men laden thick with toxic masculinity to rise up in me to toxic masculine really really save the world and you have no idea what the hell he's talking about i take bridge with the word that masculinity and toxic should even be ever together because being masculine is not toxic it just means that you're masculine so this
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and by the way as for who fought in world war 2 yeah most of those guys were mad but you know what get ready because in about 20 years all the robots and then we want to have this argument and then a couple years after that it'll be the end of the world. well i mean i think he's conflating violence and aggression with duty loyalty i mean most of. guys were you know were drafted and a lot you know it whatever society you come from people run into a hail of bullets because it's something that they have to do i mean it's a it's you know we were called up we had to do it they're not saying they're going to you know it's i would say it's a job i'm not in the center of gravity thank you very much a lot of. it but it's it's it's not a job but it is in its duty it's loyalty it's something that they felt they had to do i'm sure all $24.00 if that's that of a board rather been and in another place but when you look at it you know 75 years later through the lens of hollywood and all that crap it puts
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a lot of this this weird patina on what your feelings are well i think women in uniform today ought to be retroactively offended by this trope and. back in the day of rosie the riveter was as much a part of the war effort as the guys who were in forward positions everybody was in on this but as you said in your introduction the pendulum kind of swings back and forth clearly we're seeing a backlash to the meat to movement ever since the billy bush tape and everything trump has said ever since to seems to be feeding this red meat fire it really is it bothers me in the sun because it's like when i look at it i don't you know i think you can put i disagree with you rick i think you can put toxic masculinity in the same mold when you're talking about men who are using the worst aspects of masculinity overly aggressive and all of that and then like saying all that
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something i should aspire to be you know i that's something the should be celebrated those are the worst parts about this is whether you use the term with a dash between the 2 words or not i guess that's my particular problem with it if the idea is that you use that term and what you're saying with it is all men when they act masculine are being toxic i call bullcrap on that because i want my son. to be masculine just like i want my daughters are defined as a masculine there is a difference in what we decide is masculine right you know the proper masculine is and you know pinching women in the butt running around you know your actions arm but i don't know what you're doing you're doing the same thing that's bull crap you're doing the same thing too many people do oh do you mean masculine as in misbehaving no i mean masculine as in being a man ok that's all i'm saying and there's nothing wrong with being a man and we have to stop this thing we're doing in the general media today where it's bad to be a man and anybody who acts in a man way is doing something wrong bullcrap. you know. people who
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sexually assault abuse people probably are not the criminals or criminals that are probably not the best soldiers you know i mean they might appear you know you have that again that patina you know and there's this obsession with d.-day to i mean you know this is this is russia today there are millions of russian soldiers that were sitting around going well who am i going to who you know how i'm going to get drunk and rape somebody today their country was invaded very stoically stoically and just automatically said i got to do something about it and that's what i'm talking about that sense of loyalty and duty in the face of just horror you know to be able to just sit there and just not go under and you know when i was watching the movie dunkirk the same thing those guys were not sitting around going to the germans are beautiful you want to do a beer yeah. we did reduce some people you know a lot better stay alive you know as these guys went back to the continent on this
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and fought that you know fought the germans all the way you know back and so i don't know where you know. you know i don't understand where this comes from you know look one of things we got to get to is like look after toxic mad masculine naturally come social media because what better place to fight over you. what does or does not make up of that on the twitter verse. but the social media itself they're saying is now toxic is it toxic to the human experience this is the question recently posed by the recently posed by republican senator out of missouri josh holley when he questioned the methods of financial gain used by social media giants like facebook and twitter social media only works as a business model it consumes users time and attention day after day it needs to replace the various activities we did perfectly well without social media addiction is actually the point that's what social media shareholders are investing in the addiction of users he went on in the usa today piece to call social media
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a parasite on human relationships and societies gentleman this is interesting to me is social media a parasite on society in its current form the one guy who never stops tweeting and never stops facebook in his hall and so i mean let him start i had a psycho therapist nancy collier on my show and you are not overstating it when you say addiction because she talked about court a soul and there is something biochemical that's happening when you get that validation and when we're hyped up to the point where we're always on as opposed to experiencing our environment there is something biochemical happening and as you said this is how they make money it's all about the clicks and we confuse clicks with comrades we think that our online friends are the rands i do not or did that but here here's here is the point i would like to make about this i agree with you by the way and i think it's a point well made that we are come becoming addicted to this stuff and that is not
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healthy everybody knows that we see our kids today they don't even talk to each other husbands and wives don't talk at restaurants everybody has their cities or their just type of yeah i guess you could make that argument but now add to that the phenomenon that started with rush limbaugh and then followed by fox news which is actually says those guys are all the enemies black people are the enemy of the nazis. the enemy in other words all women are the enemies who you know are defending their rights so they created this this is this group of people who hated the other guys and then along comes them as a b. c. and essentially mimics what they're doing so the media created the message that is now being proliferated on social media so you can't just blame social media for the message although you can blame it is all on says for the over you knowledge right amped up the volume and philosophy of it i hate what started somewhere else what are your thoughts on well i mean they're they're they're both right i mean it's the they're talking about different ingredients in the soup and then when you when you
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talk go back to the business model but not really the diction business model but the you know getting people's private information business model which is where the money really is you need both ingredients in the soup to keep people you know in there so it's not like a long continuous parasitic suck it's not like a tape worm it's more like a mosquito it's like like millions of mosquitoes boom boom boom boom boom so it's not really a tape worm it's more like i'm going to. actually read something to you guys because you have examples of it but. it's actually going to play into the whole edward r. murrow one of the university of minnesota talking about television he said the instrument can teach it can illuminate yes and it can even inspire but it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends otherwise it's nothing but wires and lights in a box this is a great and perhaps the decisive battle to be fought against ignorance and tolerance and difference this is the weapon of television is where it could be useful i would add that social media could add to that armory and it is you could
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go right now i've lately gotten into podcasts and i watch you tube a lot more than i used to watch cable news for example i watch you tube and one of my fixations is guys who cut different versions of me and i've got a 1000000 you tube channels but i 2 have some. of butchers and i also like guys who are certain good in math. yeah i'm into all these niches that i happen to like i don't know what you guys like but for me and there's nothing man grier vile about it it's just so it can be ultimately and podcast your partner baking podcast how to say everything there is everything under a song and i got up is developing word and we've got to we've got to push that more than the negative i want to thank you all right holland cook chris chambers you rick sanchez for coming on today that is our show for you today everyone remember in this world we are told that we are up so i tell you all i love you i am tire open for a keep on watching all those talks about the great. we
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you know to go 2017 the german newspaper developed published an article claiming that the european union have lost 30000000000 euros as a result of its very anti russian sanctions. that particularly affected eastern europe many polish farmers went broke and even committed suicide. sometimes i'm cancer come to as i doze off on the get a moment. we'll talk on the clinical rundown autonomous. on does it for younger jim do you have to find out why the office i'm going to get stuff doesn't on time was a kind of a no harm doesn't then let's see in the arm in the pool in the defense one of the semitic don't often position. on doesn't dance with all the folks and that's what
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we call. chose seemed wrong. but old rules just don't hold. me to the world that is yet to shape our disdain you can't get educated and engagement because betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. why a paradise with so much ground turned into a round the experimentation field but agricultural chemicals we know that these chemicals have consequences they are major irritants there's no question otherwise why would that the chemical company workers themselves be geared up that suited up
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locals attempt to combat the on regulated experiments that often in day you have many of these people one foot into the biotech pharma and the other foot in the government regulatory bodies this kind of collusion is reprehensible while the battle goes on the chemicals continue to poison hawaii and its people so one has to ask the question whether there is a form of environmental research going on in hawaii whether these companies feel they can get away with this because the people have less political power.
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a court rules wiki leaks co-founder jewel in the pond will not face with us exhibition clearing and tell next year in america he could face up to 175 years in prison. also this hour the crew of one of the oil tankers damaged in a suspected attack in the gulf of all men say they were hit by a flying projectile apparently contradicting u.s. claims that iran planted a mine on the best. tehran has hit back at the american allegation accusing the united states of resorting to sabotage diplomacy. and tech giants are accused of silencing speech they do not like after the video by project.
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