tv The Alex Salmond Show RT June 20, 2019 2:30am-3:00am EDT
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my that were certain that tell me about this rev a business and the call of influence was all about yeah i don't want it partly it's just a it's just a bit of fun it really winds some people up but i do the regionally store in doing it because firstly just to make myself easier find on the internet because obviously camels are a really common name there are millions of people if you search just your camel there's there was a scotland rugby player a footballer there's a famous canoeist there's a famous gynecologist of all sorts people so by becoming reverends to come on the only one of the let's dispense with the dog food the universe press you impassively thing a good rev of the only thing we've got quite enough on with them as i did the windsor was scott would get started well yeah i mean you see after the after the s.n.p. majority in 2011 it was obese it was going to be a referendum yeah i remember them and i've been. i've been independents guy all my
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life my dad used to work for billy wolfe the former leader of the s.n.p. in bathgate because i want to make a contribution obviously i couldn't go knocking on doors and stuff so i thought to somebody could knock on the doors and buff well yeah it was interesting to say there's not not all of what's to be won there though unfortunately so yeah so i decided to do it online and i tried very brief i looked for other scottish politics websites and there weren't really any very good ones i briefly wrote for one that was run by a variety of people from the various parties but i wrote one article for them and i made a sort of joke in one of the comments and was immediately ostracized and they saw and i thought don't go on i'm going to do this myself are annoying so yeah i just thought it up wings as a it was just a little originally just a short digest of things that were in this coalition unify wings that was scotland coming a bit in the middle of the symbolism behind some people said the symbolism of the.
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wings this year the name just sort of almost happened by accident i'd always written my very 1st website when i was a videogame writer was called world of steer and ever since then i've had blogs that were that w. or x. as the initials were there were various apparently stations all but the most recent one night had was wings over seal and which you may know is the little kind of independent nation just off the off the coast of britain by itself an old world war 2 for it's always find a fascinating place so when i came to write the politics blog it just kind of seemed an obvious progression from wings over city one to wings were scotland and what do you consciously pursue your blog was to. rebalance media in the sense that the written play scotland some people do the television as well as pretty woman only biased against scottish independence so what was your explain to
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some of the union this press as well as pervading the the ordinary information that depend the support is needed yeah i mean it's still is a ridiculous state of affairs where you have a political viewpoint held by roughly half of the country represented by essentially and certainly at the time nor media told there were no newspapers in favor of independence in 2011 when we started but yeah the thing that really drove it was when i started to take more of an interest in scottish politics which was initially in 2007 and really in 2011 i was watching these things being or in the newspapers things on the telly that i knew for a fact where in truth i'm watching and i'm waiting for the journalists or the presenters to go hang on that's not true and it never happened and i couldn't understand why these these obvious false hudes weren't being challenged and it became obvious that you know almost all. going to have to do it myself i mean the
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most obvious one is the the myth that labor can win a u.k. election without scotland and it's just not true it's never been true it's there have been almost no points in history where labor needed scottish m.p.'s to have a majority so this whole thing that scotland becoming independent would somehow be tree the rest of the u.k. and condemn it to tory governments forever there is no the tiniest grain of truth in it and i couldn't believe that this thing was just being repeated over and over on state broadcasters on national television and all the papers always describe the as the controversial. sometimes a lot worse than. i'm used to people point the use of language but at least bad language which i'm trusting of us i can see is not only the state itself it's not you that's right yeah we don't know where it's on the issue firstly how do you how do you defend. firstly the use of the flag and that we as
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a distraction from the serious message on the site i almost always find it comical and ridiculous that scottish people pretend to be offended by a bit swearing who is the most famous the most celebrated the most beloved scottish cultural export of all time it's billy connolly a man who not only isn't ashamed of swearing a man who has turned swearing into an art form and who makes a very strong case case for doing it or most probably our biggest current cultural. certainly entertainment world figure is frankie boyle who is is very much the same we we celebrate fictional characters like malcolm tucker written by the the wonderful armando iannucci who is the most magnificent creative sweeter and in the history of you're not right if you're going to point your rev a bushel. you know having read reviews i don't believe that the we should practice
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going to. apartheid so-called swear words but not in a special sealed section at the back of the dictionary with a warning this is not to be used they're just words they're words which have a purpose and they use and if you want to express a certain view if you. protech say particularly angry about government policy that is going to cause by these means of people to die like the most recent welfare reforms which are beyond any reasonable doubt caused thousands or tens of thousands of people to die an early death how can you express i knew or an adequate and sufficient level of anger about that without using these what was also these words for let's go on to the last and then the broad clear sight that something which quite extraordinary when you look back on it you published a book so i mean i think it's extraordinary because the 5. a very successful web
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site a very popular political blog and they decided to issue a bouquet. of 5 what we have a we blew up from the we were it was kind of a was basically always the goal from from the very early on what i realized is that you're going to have a hard time actually winning anyone over with a pro independence website because before the read ever read your arguments they've got to come they've got to want to come to your website and read it and that people tend not to do that kind of thing if they are opposed to your if there aren't a lot people just aren't interested in it so why i realized very early on was that i was going to have to produce something that we could get physically in people's hands people who would come to a pro independence website people who wouldn't want to read stuff by me and also partly because of the stuff that you say about being vilified by the meanest press they are you know they were the enemy they weren't going to give us a fair show so we had to put something directly in people's hands that we could
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target and just give the normal man and woman in the street our argument the best way we queued so the website has always. only ever really been a tool for the production of that we believe i believe that was i said to me look you know the argument in modern politics like the likes of teals and. in the referendum and 2016 we should keep you know the message is short and simple as possible in the sale of a bus but. totally the opposite direction you know how many pages how many will issue yeah and wonder 72 pages. between us and some other people over 300000 physical copies there were about 800000 copies downloaded on people's i pods and will be bootlegged all over the earth for you we firmly encourage people to do it every really cute people some people print home some people print giant variations it was translated and gallic there were all your books over it we
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absolutely encourage people to get any possible way we could to as many people as we possibly could so that at least hundreds of thousands of. political books will be released do you think that had an impact. where in the start the world spring of 24 we didn't really start getting the print ones in people's hands until the start of september and what i got told by people over and over again in unsolicited e-mails and letters and all kinds of stuff is that we really genuinely changed people's minds they were saying i gave this to my my mom she was never ever going to vote yes and then 2 days later she was like knocking doors with me. and i know seems to that's what people tell me emil you know i wasn't there it wasn't i didn't i had no part in the distribution my mind my kind of right lindsay bruce put together just an unbelievable distribution network where
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we go to every corner of scotland from selkirk to store in a way in the bering. absolutely everywhere and but the fact that that feat was never recognized anywhere really is something i'm still going to be in my bonnet about to that day the fact that nobody that wasn't considered newsworthy by the mainstream media. it's ludicrous. what do you do if we came here where did you work before you came here when you lived well death row and in many us states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor of the death penalty there are some people that because of what they did have given up the right to split them up this summer even proven innocent doctor years on death row and how many more
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exonerations is it kind of take before we as a society realize that this is not working and we actually do something about. this hard to take some from somebody if you know have some to replace. the want to do this interview today and i want to use the market in that they take me. for years off the area. so how can i tell you stop selling drugs if we'll hire somebody because the money in it back. then just means the way in life has almost been basically mccullers peaceful for the worst to you as it would secure any security positions i've been in that day or jack me again. you see people get all their cars and i'll see you coming in the harness seems like
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they'll hurry up and run into the house like they don't want to they don't want to talk see her get your mail or anything like that. i just want to go. and do it. right just try reading. i mean. give me. 1 what is bitcoin point is magic internet money a new type of digital currency the centralized digital scarcity chancellor i'm bringing a 2nd bailout for a bank that's called the genesis blog for reason because being a civil disobedience a source of optimism because i can control my own financial destiny it's just a new way of coming to consensus it's a game changer in the human history and this is columbus discovering
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a new world this paradigm shifting technology that transforms economics and finance in a heartbeat the apollo 11 landing on to the max and stacy. welcome back alex is interviewing top 10 political bloggers to a combo of wings over scotland we take up the story with the website originally designed to help they guess cause in the 2014 referendum making the decision to keep on blogging in the aftermath of their hisself. no the referendum had famously you predicted the result of the estimated the support 45 percent so the referendum was held. to a skull and had been formulated with the cause of progressive independence referendum the us will so the yes get beaten but went to a scottish continues why i hadn't really considered if we were going to continue
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afterwards. it wasn't until i think it was the day after when everyone was was absolutely and broken everybody was in pieces and dying and all of those loyalist orange thugs appeared in george square and i think that galvanized the us movement more than that i think any amount of sort of talking to ourselves about picking ourselves up and getting back into the fight could have been i think i think that huge number of people just when we are not going to be beaten by the people and there was a massive growing saw from wings we've seen can't stop night got to carry on doing this we are we are still in this fight this is this has not been put to bed and yet i've been up there was just no kind of option but the but to keep going so has carried on the go and from success the success in terms of is how many dedicated readers in the town the use of the do you get any reader if you leak. about
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everything unique rebuilt but no i mean it fluctuates it's been yeah you know i'm dying from it peaked around almost a 1000000 in the couple of months we've got to the referendum but our average over the over the periods about a quarter of a 1000000 unique readers every month which from a country of 4000000 adults is a phenomenal reach it's the kind of i still can't quite believe my big go or no imagination that ever when i'm looking back over the many many postings as a one year luke but you'll see that i should have said that wasn't i. i didn't get it right. your mistake shouldn't know of immediately springs to mind the $11.00 of the 1st ones that we got a lot of criticism for was one of the. deceased tory m.p. alex johnson and he issued a horrible attack on a christian call and we're. the lottery winners and s.n.p. dollars and i yeah i called him a quite unpleasant means in the article is the only time we've kind of ever really
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been rude on the website rather than on twitter account which i regard as a separate entity i don't really really direct such and i think it was absolutely fair comment and i don't particularly feel bad about the language either because for the reasons i said earlier on the subject of the a common case it doesn't deal famously one case she brought together for defamation is accepted by the. judge that. you had been defeated because you're not told before that but nonetheless she won the case on the globe is a fair comment it was a da thing to do for you controversial blogger someone who least a pretty strong offense of towns to take a politician to task for me my argued doing something similar to you i won't or would firmly disagree that something somewhere i mean if you don't bill had written
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an article saying she thought i was a horrible human being on i would be perfectly entitled to hold up any and i have no beef with that if you again you'll know better than i do that how much abuse you get if you're involved in politics i get called awful things 100 times a day but there is a there's a difference not only morally but in law between being unpleasant about someone and defaming them by saying things that are factually untrue so i want to clearly have it established and have it in writing as it were. but i am not a homophobe but i wasn't tweeting homophobic things and the people cannot save some people see the association with of controversial bloggers and controversial language actually harms the. dependence cause you're only allowed to think of billy sympathy with it can you see what people are driving or do you think it's just part of the tactics of politics certainly is certainly an attempt to divide and rule but
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mean we've always been incredibly clear on wings that we have no connection to the s.n.p. are never been in the s.n.p. have never voted for the s.n.p. we have nothing to do with the s.n.p. so tell me i don't see how it can. damage the s.n.p. nicholas origin is not responsible for me and i've never suggested it should be i mean if anyone responsible for me it's probably will you any because i've always been a lib ember war. and this is a revolution your make him eligible. we had little from the start with. tory marginal and i came down here when chris patten was the m.p. when i arrived here and the election i ever voted in we kicked him out and bath has been lib dam with the exception of the 2015 election tory go in but then we came back in 2017 so you are basically saying is that if any political party reputation
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is at risk from the the more flawed it style of billions over scotland then that's the liberal democrat salute. on their hands you know you want to make a contribution to their for there and then you saw a continuing hope because of the closeness of the result and because of the desire of people to continue the argument but you know yourself as a practitioner making a contribution or a commentator whose principal purpose is to debunk unionism and the unionist press obviously is both of those are primary. we do see myself as a participant i'm you know wings makes no pretense of being a neutral observer in the independence campaign we are pro independence website so as a poor look there's web site there for you most of the view on the election the independence campaign should well i mean i've said on wings for for some time that the s.n.p. probably the scottish government however you want to put it should probably have
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been more proactive in the last few years i personally would very much i'd like to have seen a court challenge with regard to whether we need a section there in order or not all the referendum because there is a great deal of leonard beagle opinion on both sides of the argument as in norway being the edinburgh agreement which you signed as you know did not issue it kind of moved it to one side and said we will we are having a referendum no and there's a wish based on what you believe the mood is in scotland or is it based on the saudi and westminster again it's a little of both i mean it's very much the mood that i detect in the grassroots movement from people who talk to me every day most people have understood that the scottish government's policy has to sort of essentially sit back and wait for breaks it unfold one way or another but the people i think are increasingly unhappy that more active steps haven't been taken to prepare ourselves for when
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that becomes but surely the s.n.p. leadership's points are a very fair one that. the. in the gift for section 30. a little study was ruled out an official there thought i'd. catalonian style the initiative. up the options. the leadership pathway can act as if we just have to buy time and we for something else to happen well this is the problem in if you if you rule all of those options and the u.k. government just keeps saying no it's not the time forever. you've got nowhere there's nowhere else to go just it will never happen and we all grew old and die before we ever have a 2nd independence referendum so there are only 2 i've been used that i can see one of them being and an arrangement with perhaps a labor government that doesn't have a majority and would be prepared to concede a referendum in exchange for support or we go over the legal route i don't think
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the strategy or just asking over and over again until the until the cave of the canucks of their hearts is ever going to get anywhere so one way or another you determine that the game should be a food once again in scotland another referendum another test so can we anticipate another. oh you certainly can yeah i mean that's again that's still the whole point of going to wings over scotland is to get to a referendum and have another go another we believe we can people's hands there we will be printing this time so 4 to 5 times as many as we did the last time because i think i think it's very powerful to give people facts that's the thing that we do above anything else you don't have to take our word for anything we admit up front that we are biased that we are pro independence but every claim that we make every fact that we assert we give you the source we give you the link we say here's here are the facts you go and look at them don't take our word for it decide for
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yourself whether we are telling you the truth or not have you thought of. success and post-independence will be back to scotland would you give up political controversy over to enter mainstream politics while he got in line for mr campbell in the future yeah my home aside i would move home if we if we go independent or move home permanently and i'm torn from day to day about whether that would be to form a new political party or to go and live in a cave with no internet for the rest of my life she can be taking over for a while the raimi are so convinced liberal democrat voters one thing somebody needs to. still cover i can assure you of a political career of our country is present you with the other exam and quit for appearing on the show no you know the drill or there's no even here in buffalo bill to get your hands on a good scotch and only skull and he did well thank you very much our pleasure let us drill for a 2nd on the extent of the achievement of the 3 blogs we have covered thus far in
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the cities from bases centered in scottish and northern irish politics wins over scotland slow growth to and the craig mundie block have generated huge interest to soar into the u.k. top 10 these 3 are very different in style and content create modest pay enormous far and wide providing devastating critique of u.k. international policy sugru too has become the key source of impartial information on the politics of the province while wings might scathing demolitions of the poor union mainstream media and scotland should be said that this does not endear wings of a scotland site to those on the receiving end of the seating and alice this and some particularly in the hierarchy of the national movement also find wing social media presence far too hot to handle sure campbell does point out that the wings over scotland blog should be the garters as a distinct entity from the wings twitter account but some do not accept this distinction and i q but it is kind of productive. of course political blows not the
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same thing as political parties as liberal voters chicago riley points i don't want wings of a skull into stunned beyond argument as attract a dedicated readership of energized and politically aware achievements while the production of the 3 blue book how did to months ago public affect on the politics of the scottish independence referendum of 2014 a real impact transcending the verified virtual world of the online politically campaigners the new edition promised exclusively on the show will be eagerly awaited by the guest movement in scotland under guard to the some degree of trepidation by the progeny and campaigners. next week return from featuring online politics of today to feature filming of the past i guess mcfadden 1st shot to stardom in 1905 with his protégé of the scottish tito king robert the bruce and the multi oscar winning brief part. now with an expensive film or graffiti under his
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belt he's back at the edinburgh international film festival and i'm sure the proofs to pick up the broadsword once again this is not a sequel but tells the new story. join us next week to find out whether this news though will have the same dramatic impact until then from alex in itself and all that the show is good bye for and i.
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that he was going to move ahead. and the man with the mfi was stubborn and what that meant. i believe that this is one of the therapy is to. tama. absurd really harsh things that happen in life. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy to confront dacian let it be an arms race in this on off and spearing dramatic development only closely i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. what do you do before you came here where you were before you came here when you
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