to. be really new really. is hard to take so from somebody if you know have something to replace it. we want to do this interview today i had all these markets open then they take me. off area. so how can i tell you start selling drugs if we'll hire someone to put the money in a box. then judge me all the way to life it's almost been basically my color speech before the words do you guys know what secured me security positions open house without. jack me again. you see people get all their cars and i'll see you coming in the harness seems like they'll hurry up and run into the house like they don't want to they don't want to talk to your get your

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vanco i'm so over not there is fortune is asked and made it into billions and billions of dollars and. globally minded person who could theoretically be investing his money in lots a worldwide project if it weren't for the western sanctions because businessman and sportsman who decide he is present clinton's closest circle today my guest is actually about them by. western sanctions against russia are affecting companies and industries but they also targeted russia's most influential businessmen personally what's it like to be persona non-grata your own country will trade ties between russia and the rest of the world survived the sanctions and is russian business so dumped into its new reality evidence and i think. it's great to have you on our program at this really really happy because we have lots to talk about i'm so there's just no. i spread idea in the west that slapping sanctions against

certain people their assets their kompany will push those people to create an opposition to the russian president and that will eventually result in a policy change you're one of the 1st people who are hit by the sanctions and they mean they haven't been since then it's been 5 years and the sections haven't changed russia's stance at all how long are you ready to sustain this pressure like forever. will probably be better without sanctions since it's easier to do business and sanctions do have a certain negative impact on the business. that we are living under these sanctions we had me for a while now and will continue to do so. doesn't bother us really and there are no major disruptions here. is that how much money have you lost because of sanctions and you've got your new tower number. no there is no such

figure. there was the 1st wave that mainly affected the bank because there was a global roche and people started withdrawing money from their accounts and they took out significant amounts out of our bank. at 1st they did a failed operations then we took a number of steps and explain to our clients that it poses no actual risk to them and thankfully they believed. so there is no danger. basically we didn't lose anything you filed a complaint to the european court of justice challenging the restrictive measures imposed on us what are you hoping to achieve i mean the europeans imposed sanctions against you and they did it legally is based on the laws what makes you think that the european court of justice will overturn i challenge the sanctions and it was. we started building the crime near the bridge so they had no basis for imposing

sanctions i went to court and i warned. dissensions to against me in 20142015 or unlawful work. to 15 we started building the bridge so they extended just sanctions and made them what. for you was more about them acknowledging the fact that the sanctions against you are lawful and unfair rather than going to getting something back yes it was about lowering justice because we believed it was completely unjust dissensions were imposed will no reason whatsoever we would build the crimea. well we still have a bit to finish up with the railway tracks and we will be. wrestling through what precious businessman has of state owned companies they stand united in saying that sanctions are all full they hurt business but you know we'll manage to pull through

my at the video will become even stronger as an ordinary person well i don't really see any opportunities here i don't see that things have somehow improved over the last 5 years. i don't see them where do you see them could you explain what this opportunity is are and how the sanctions are modernizing our economy are pushing us forward and it's honestly i don't get it. the sanctions have influenced operations of course you know i simply meant that if we learn how to leave on to these sanctions. it's not the end of the world we don't scare us. let them get all of their pascoe told me that sanction i mean a lack of foreign investment which is very dangerous for the russian economy and that this whole thing is actually about opportunity strangely rather than. how come you don't share his passion is. i think he's being too pessimistic about this. take a greek culture for example. there is been

a fusion breakthrough. now we have a new technology. we're moving away from the row experts roll. because we had to produce something else or develop our own technology. that is definitely a good thing. now we need to get results i think it's very. fast we could afford to be idle and things are from work or not or do them at all but now we need to do. it fast. if we start falling behind if we slow down. we will fall behind and completely. so we have to be proactive all the time. of course it would be easier without saying there's no question about it. so you set

thinking about the legacy behind what after crimea breach of a dream or maybe a plan to build something similarly impressive. fails in march so i don't really get what could be more grandiose than the crimea bridge. there is a number of things really i think it's like giving birth to a baby we made this rage and now it's our baby i have many children to love one of them more than all the others i have to love them equally for russia the bridges on down to be a very important life was a challenging project. for times they tried to start construction and failed. i have many new projects in mind. i don't really want to go into the. but we do have a dream like that of reporters unless you will be working for

a while yet. but you know with whom with why do you think that you know you are interested with a crime a rich construction. very important project because your presence close friend and he knows you and your long time. or because he says something else and you because of their lot of rich people in russia but somehow you got interested in what this project why. many take this to be honest. some were afraid to buy some new. they won't be able to finish the construction many had relatives in ukraine firstly our capacity whether or not we could build the bridge there was then they made a decision and said if you trust us with it we can take this project and build the bridge so you know an engineer architect you spearheaded the construction of

a unique region you had to actually gather a team that could trust 600 percent how did you ever see that word i mean how did you pick the experts consider that i'm going to build or you're not a specialist yourself i mean if anything we had gone wrong responsibility would have fallen on you not the team. you're right i'm not an architect and i didn't mention the instruction works. too well one would happen that we did not build a bridge to the truth be told i couldn't sleep at night knowing. all this 3 and a half years. yes i actually never talked about this those arches would put that was one of a kind operation. it was a meant to be they were trying to imagine is where all the g. is would work seamlessly similar to any us legal if one of them broke down the bridge would be doomed we had never been able to anything that ambitious and that

is why i knew that if we pulled through. then i would have something to be proud of . you our children. rather good but it turned your life upside down but you don't regret it at all because you can't even like get a vacation outside russia actually with a mind that i could go places anyway since i was on the sanctions list so my life didn't change march i do love russia i love them we know a lot of places were going to have a really good time especially now that we have crimea crimea. is absolutely stunning i regret nothing i have many children and i haven't lost my appetite for life and i do enjoy it. when i take a break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to business men and present but closest of friends i've got you know at the back stay with us.

my objection to brag that is not that i'd like to hear you but it without the mollifying influence of the e.u. the brits are going to be exposed face on head on to people like boris johnson and jacob smog who are who are the certifiably and see. good food descriptions sound up even for the owners so how to choose his pet food industry is telling us what to feed our pets really more based on what they want to

sell us than was necessarily good for the pet turns out may not be the best people belief we have animals that have you know diabetes in arthritis they have auto immune disorders allergies we are actually creating these problems it's a huge epidemic of problems all of them i believe can be linked to very simple problem of diet and some dog owners so heartbreaking stories about their pets streets a larger corporations are not very interested in proving or disproving the value of their food because they're already making a $1000000000.00 on it and there's no reason to do that research. you know what i i don't want to talk to a communist news agency forgive me we'll have to find someone else.

well with the trying to say with a swastika meaning of the going to the future just like the jews means exactly when my father. leaves. so i. see and feel that where.

we have to be the bad guys. i think like. this fight also it's an indication of how important market movements are. so that's also good because we're the left must move towards we are definitely winning it because we have the people they have people in power but we are in the muscles. join me every thursday on the alex salmond chill and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics. i'm sure i'll see you then.

we're back where businessmen are gods and. i mean there has to be a reason for this common approach in russia which is you can earn money in russia you can only say. why can't people make money and the honest about how can we change it i mean it's not like we can eradicate corruption by endlessly putting people behind bars one after another i mean look at china they have a death sentence for that just like what it during stalin times but every once in a while presidency yet another corrupt official. to my mind what we need is

a real lucian rechange. your right saying that restrictions and punishments would get us nowhere and you forbid your child to do something they're only keep thinking about how to do that very thing anyway. so no prohibition xenon of these numerous arrests but i think when our president said it they can stir up some fear. but they will not fundamentally change. the deal so how do you have big businesses i mean do you personally see the so-called high profile corruption expos as you publish. or the opposition that the number does this get on your nerves even pay attention you know it may be actually disciplined i think. when a case is transparent and. then we need to expose it so that ready everyone.

has to be there but i think. these people however should not go over the top and the problem was that we were to loss of. our own talent. but that keeps you on your toes right. all the sanctions in place is there any hope that we'll be able to. actually benefit from the busy breakthroughs in technology and artificial intelligence i mean yeah we should advance our own scientific research but it's the west and the us in particular that at the forefront technological progress right now where are we going to get new technologies i mean up or are you thinking. china south korea perhaps. we are smart enough i think. we'll never be lacking in mathematicians software engineers physicists or anyone else for that matter so we have what it takes to develop. so we just need to stop competing with ourselves because everyone is

hugging the blanket. someone develops a new technology or worse because they keep it to themselves who are not willing to share at any cost should be vice versa and we need to join our efforts with that. certain amount socialism and patrick it isn't because when everyone is on their own that's capitalism of the snow when they're one is on their own group it's about capitalism this way the only thing we get is a handful small companies but a little capital of the world where. i think it is way better to. major company look at what alibaba and male dog. building something really big it was when that would be a huge step forward to. start and will have what it takes to actually grow and develop take a look at the defense industry through even though no one in the us we would actually do it but we did. that one then we will need to invest in technology as

much as we did in weapons is this happening. rather with. yes and that is exactly the plan of course the west is not going to stand in wait for us they were trailing behind but we need to move forward any way you can let. we're going to find a way to snow some new technologies from them they would respond with more sanctions and once again will be cut off and would have to go asking for handouts doing something for example intelligence this is serious. anyway when you to move forward whatever it takes and we shouldn't expect help from anyone even china find resources here in russia and tap into the potential we have to. do we even have the money i'm not sure we have the money yes absolutely. because

more asian long it's almost like you always had every ambitious slogans don't lead to 5 year plan in 4 years to be used to say in the soviet times so if we give our people enough inspiration and somehow unite them there will be nothing we couldn't do just as it happened with the crimea break upset about that we have to the east to china i mean is it a good idea for chinese people i talked to they say that this is good for us in the international arena because china russia together are a power to be reckoned with and i also spoke about that with a lot of people from the political and business circles and they think that the chinese are very difficult partners actually and it's difficult to reach an agreement with them on their loans are expensive while the terms and conditions are oppressive also could you share your experience i've had some experience of dealing with them even though i don't have any joint projects or the chinese at this point . are the chinese have

a whole different mindset that's. very different. and that you encourage russian businesses to pull their money off from the off shores because of the risks and the west can arrest the money at any moment in this war of sanctions so why would a russian need an offshore i don't i think ordinary people have certain. taste of the word why can't our businessmen just keep their money in russia. which one is it means is that unprofitable or. what happened because for some time there was a like a honeypot. everyone believe that it was all on stable and on the reliability of russia at least all that and if one was great over the russian businessman they want to do business in the west and it was. everything away from them in russia which now is the opposite of a business is outside of russia were snatched lessons frozen old blog and whine about it and no one can take your business away here and we're good all we have is

in russia. nothing is that are possible but i believe the business climate is getting better and better. and i'm asking this because after crimea there are rules of the game between major businesses and the kremlin have obviously changed now and a businessman who lives in russia and who is wealthy enough has to build something like you had to build a bridge back but it was sanctions right person asks to finance a project and you know our business is so we have no other way than to agree on the whole this way they all have to contribute somehow to russia's geo political interests to compare that to what we had 10 years ago this is not freedom at all i mean your so on free well. if you look at the situation with the bridge for example the president. to come here you are going to build a bridge and if you do and. the opposite is actually. to consider the risks and i was aware of the risks what we do here we do for our

country or because our words should live here and we have no plans to move anywhere else. but why shouldn't we build this bridge when you talk to all the good many of them saying this is local. to all our money here under this president why should we take your. somewhere else. you know she doesn't give orders were telling us what to do with our capital but the words and you go out if you want to in this here in the us they are not the only and they are thought of what your life would be like when the president is not your close friend. experienced something similar in georgia during grab aleutian and no one power change happens in our country so it's that people that you thought you could rely on in here somewhere and this is very surprising because it's not at all like he thought it would be easy understanding you're very close with him president 6 but what is your life going to be like when

he was president. i think about. we've been friends remain friends no matter what our friendship has stood the test of time over 50 years. thanks for ever saying that in the thanks for the lot of work of course and thank you for. their own words or ahead. or behind the word if you will so. every visit. to the letter to the.

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ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the bath and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. my objection to breaks it is not that i'd like to hear you but it without the mollifying influence of the e.u. the brits are going to be exposed face on head on to people like boris johnson and jacob riis mog who are who are the as a certifiably insane. it's hard to take some from somebody if you know have some to replace. the want to do this interview today they don't use market and then they take me. there.

for years on syria. so i'm going to tell you stuff selling drugs if will has some to put the money in it back. then just me all the way in life has almost been basically mccullers peaceful for the words to you as it was to get me security positions open as you know. jack me again. you see people get all their cars and i'll see you coming in the harness seems like they'll hurry up and run into the house like they don't want to they don't want to talk to your get your mail or anything like that. i just want to go. and doing. drugs try really. give me.

the u.s. plans to hit around with a new round of major sanctions later on monday we look though at how washington stance on iran seems to be pulling in different directions also to come a middle east peace plan hailed as the deal of the century by don't move from just rejected by palestine critics say it's trying to bribe our troops into making political concessions to be israel and the parents of critically ill palestinian infants taken from gas it's a better get tossed because in israel of being denied access to their children that's it earnest much harder to obtain for adults plus also to come easily and you are at loggerheads over the country's mounting debts with deputy prime minister mattis salvini.