on these stories had to want to stay with us now. discussing western sanctions against russia. are not there is fortune is asked and made billions and billions of dollars and. globally minded person who could theoretically be investing his money in lots of worldwide projects if it weren't for the western sanctions because businessman and sportsman who decide. circle today my guest is that. western sanctions against russia are affecting companies. but they also targeted russia's most influential businessman personally. country

will trade between russia and the rest of the world survived the sanctions and russian business into its new reality and i didn't and i think it's great to have you on our program that this really really happy because we have lots to talk about so there is no widespread idea in the west that slapping sanctions against certain people their assets their kompany those people to create an opposition to the russian president and that will ensure a result in a policy change you're one of the 1st people or by the sanctions and they mean they haven't been since then it's been 5 years and the sanctions haven't changed russia's stance at all how long are you ready to sustain this pressure like forever is going to. be better without sanctions. easier to do business and sanctions do have a certain negatives. the impact on the business. that we are living under these

sanctions we had me for a while now and we will continue to do so. it doesn't bother us really and there are no major disruptions here. is that how much money have you lost because of sanctions and you've got your new towel and number. no there is no such figure or there was the 1st wave that mainly affected the banks because there was a global roche and people started withdrawing money from their accounts and they took out significant amounts out of our bank but it was at 1st they did a failed operations then we took a number of steps and explain to our clients that it poses no actual risk to them and thankfully they believed. so there is no danger. basically we didn't

lose anything you filed a complaint to the european court of justice challenging the restrictive measures imposed on what are you hoping to achieve i mean the europeans imposes sanctions against you and they did it legally it's based on the young laws what makes you think that the european court of justice will overturn it i challenge the sanctions and it was before we started building the crimea bridge so they had no basis for imposing sanctions i went to court and i warned. dissensions against me in 20142015 or unlawful button 2015 we started building the bridge so they extended the sanctions and made them was. for us more about them acknowledging the fact that the sanctions against you are an awful and unfair rather than we are getting something back yes it was about low. justice because we

believed it was completely unjust dissensions were imposed will no reason whatsoever. to build the crimea. well we still have a bit to finish up with the railway tracks and we will be all sad for the last months of what precious businessman has of state owned companies they stand united in saying that sanctions are all full they hurt business but you know will manage to pull through my at the video will become even stronger as an ordinary person well i don't really see any opportunities here i don't see that things have somehow improved over the last 5 years. i don't see them where do you see them could you explain what the sum which it is are and how the sanctions are modernizing our economy are pushing us forward. i don't get it. the sanctions have influenced operations of course you know i simply man did we learn how to live on to these sanctions. it's not the end of the world we don't scare us on the

playlist i let them get all of their past told me that sanction i mean a lack of foreign investment which is very dangerous for the russian economy and that in a sense whole thing is actually about opportunity strangely rather than opening up how come you don't share his passion is and. i think he's being too pessimistic about this. take a great culture for example. there is been a fusion breakthrough. now we have a new technology. we're moving away from the royal experts role that if. we had to produce something you know selves develop our own technology. that is definitely a good thing. now we need to get results i think it's very. we could afford to be idle and would things that often weren't. or not or do them

and all but we need to do. in the past. if we start falling behind if we slow down. we will fall behind. on completely. so we have to be proactive all the time. of course it would be easier without saying no question about. you haven't you sat thinking about the legacy you want to leave behind what after crimea a breach of a dream or maybe a plan to build something similarly impressive. sales in march i don't really get what could be more grandiose than the crimea bridge. there is a number of things really i think it's like giving birth to a baby we have made this arrangement and now it's our baby i have many children.

love one of them more than all the others i have to love them equally for russia the bridges on down to be a very important life was a challenging project. for times they tried to start construction and failed. i have many new projects in mind. i don't really want to go into them. but we do have a dream like. you will be working for a while yet. but you are with them with so why do you think that you are interested with the crimea approach construction. very important project because your presence close friend and he knows you for a long time. or. something else and you because of their lot of rich people in russia but somehow you got interested in what this project why. in the one. there were not many takers to be honest. some were afraid to

buy some new. they won't be able to finish the construction many had relatives in ukraine firstly our capacity whether or not we could build the bridge then they made a decision and said if you trust us with it we can take this project and build the bridge so you know an engineer architect you spearheaded the construction of a unique region you had to act together a team that you could trust 600 percent how did you ever see that word i mean how did you pick the experts consider that going out of bridge builder you're not a specialist yourself i mean if anything had gone wrong responsibility would have fallen on you not the team. you're right i'm not an architect and i didn't mention the instruction works. only too well the one that would happen that we did not build a bridge to the truth be told i couldn't sleep at night knowing. all this 3 and

a half years. yes i actually never talked about this. that it was one of a kind operation. it was a meant to be they were trying to americanism where old energy is would work seamlessly similar to any of slinging if one of them broke down the bridge would be doomed we had never build anything that ambitious and that is why i knew that if we pulled through. then i would have something to be proud of. you our children. rather good but you turned your life upside down but you don't regret it at all in the fight you can't even like get a vacation outside russia actually with a mind that i could go places anyway since i was on the sanctions list so my life didn't change march i do love russia i love the more people there know a lot of places were going to have a really good time especially now that we have crimea crimea. is

absolutely stunning i regret nothing i have many children and i haven't lost my appetite for life and i do enjoy it. when i take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to business men and present the closest of friends i've got you know at the back stay with us. birdsall and head. forward if you have a good percentage. of our group. have it is that you.

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talked about is why the u.s. feels compelled to go to war washington's obsession with iran is hardly over. this hard to take some from somebody if you know have someone to replace him. we're going to do this interview today and all these market hoping that they take me. off the area. so i'm going to tell you stop selling drugs if we'll hire someone to put the money in a box. then judge me all the way in life it's almost been basically mccullers peaceful for us all or. do you guys know what securities security positions open. david jack me again. you see people get all their cars and i'll see you coming in the heart and it seems like they'll hurry up and run into the house like they don't want to they don't want to talk to your get your mail or anything like that.

i just want to go. i can do this. just try read a. chance someone give me. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to get a little the politics spoke this list i'm show business i'll see you then. what politicians do. you put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or something i want to be rich. but you going to be for us it's like the local tree in the morning can't be good. i'm

interested always in the waters of our. question. mimes actually brags that it's not that i like to hear you but it without the mollifying influence of the e.u. the brits are going to be exposed face on head on to people like boris johnson and jacob riis mog who are who are the the certifiably insane. show seemed wrong. when all rolls just don't hold. any new gold yet to stamp out disdain becomes agitated and in games from an equal betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground.

and we're back where businessmen are rocking. i mean there has to be a reason for this common approach in russia which is you can earn money in russia you can only say. why can't people these days make money and that is the honest about how can we change that i mean it's not like we can eradicate corruption by endlessly putting people behind bars one after another i mean look at china they

have a death sentence for that just like what it during stalin times but every once in a while president. and other corrupt official. to my mind what we need is a revolutionary changes and. you're right saying that restrictions on the punishments would go just no way. to do something they're only keep thinking about how to do that very thing anyway. so no provisions or none of these numerous arrests but i think even our president said that they can stir up some fear. but they will not fundamentally change. the deal so how do you have big businesses and you personally see the so-called high profile corruption exposé published by. the opposition that the number does this get on your nerves even pay attention you know it may be actually disciplines you i think.

we need to expose it so that ready everyone. certain to punish mint has to be there but i think. these people however should not go over the top and the problem was that we were to loss of. more of our own talent. but that keeps you on your toes right. yes that's true. all the sanctions in place is there any hope that we'll be able to actually benefit from the busy breakthroughs in technology and artificial intelligence i mean yes we should advance our own scientific research but it's the west and the us in particular that at the forefront technological progress right now where are we going to get new technologies i mean are you thinking asia in this china south korea perhaps. we are smart enough i think. we'll never be lacking in mathematicians software engineers

physicists or anyone else for that matter so we have what it takes to develop. so we just need to stop competing with all cells we're not because everyone is hugging the blanket. someone develops a new technology or worse because they keep it to themselves who are not willing to share at any cost should be vice versa and we need to join our efforts. which have a certain amount socialism and patrick it isn't because when everyone is on their own that's capitalism of the snow whenever one is on their own group it's about capitalism this way the only thing we get is a handful small companies but little capital to work with. i think it is way better to. major company look at what bob and me a dog through a. building something really big it was that would be a huge step forward to. start and will have what it takes to actually grow and

develop take a look at the defense industry through the window know when. we would actually do it but we did. that one then we'll need to invest in technology as much as we did in weapons is this happening. yes and that's exactly the plan of course the west is not going to stand and wait for the day we're trailing behind but we need to move forward any way you can. we're going to find a way to snipe some new technologies from them they would respond with more sanctions and once again will be cut off and would have to go asking for handouts need to start doing something in our road for example intelligence this is serious . anyway when you to move forward whatever it takes and we shouldn't expect help from anyone even china find resources here in russia and tap into the potential we

have to. do we even have the money i'm not sure we have the money yes absolutely. we have is more asian alliance who always had every ambitious slogans completed a 5 year plan in 4 years to be used to say in the soviet times so if we give our people enough inspiration and somehow unite them there will be nothing we couldn't do just as it happened with the crimea break upset about that we give it to the east to china i mean is it a good idea for chinese people i talked to they say that this is good for us in the international arena because china russia together are a power to be reckoned with and i also spoke about that with a lot of people from the political and business circles and they think that the chinese are very difficult partners actually and it's difficult to reach an agreement with them on their loans are expensive while the terms and conditions are oppressive also could you share your experience i've had some experience dealing

with them even though i don't have any joint projects or the chinese at this. point . the chinese have a whole different mindset that's. very different. and that you encourage russian businesses to pull their money off from the off shores because of the risks and the west can arrest the money at any moment in this war of sanctions so why would a russian enter printer or need an offshore i don't i think ordinary people have certain tastes of the word why can't our businessmen just keep their money in russia you look at you when you say that i'm profitable. what happened because for some time there was were like a honeypot. everyone believe that it was all on stable and on the reliable of russia at least all that and if one was great over the russian businessman they want to do business in the west and it was. everything away from them in russia which now it's the opposite

a business is outside of russia were snatched less is frozen old blog and whine about it and no one can take your business away here and we're good all we have is in russia. nothing is that are possible but i believe the business climate is getting better and better. and i'm asking this because after crimea there are rules of the game between major businesses and the kremlin have obviously changed now and a businessman who lives in russia and who is wealthy enough has to build something like you had to build the bridge back but slap it with sanctions right person asks to finance a project and you know our businesses have no other way than to agree on the whole this way they all have to contribute somehow to russia's geo political interests to compare that to what we had 10 years ago this is not freedom at all i mean your so on free. of the situation with the bridge for example the president. pay you to come here you are going to build a bridge and if you do. the opposite actually.

to consider the risks and i was aware of the risks what we do here we do to our country or so but there is always should live here and we have no plans to move anywhere else. but why shouldn't we build this bridge when i talk to all the guards many of them say this is local. to all our money here under this president and why should we take you somewhere else because. you know he doesn't give orders were telling us what to do with our capital but the words and you go if you want to hear it why not only i mean our thought of what your alive would be like when the president is not your close friend because i've experienced something similar in georgia. you know one power change happens in our country so it's that people that you could rely on in here somewhere and this is very surprising because it's not at

all like you thought it would be even understanding you're very close with the president but what is your life going to be like when he was president. you think about. being friends remain friends no matter what our friendship has stood the test of time over 50 years. thanks for everything that you know thanks for the work of course and i thank you.

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