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ron after claiming he stopped short of the monitor of 150 arrangements he declared further economic warfare not only on the iranian people via sanctions but on iran's head of state to the response from jeff ron is making headlines in the usa iran is the lashing out at the u.s. over a new financial pressure saying there will be no diplomatic end to the standoff this morning a rani and president hassan rouhani called new u.s. sanctions outrageous and idiotic his words now a spokesman for iran's foreign ministry said the measures equal a permanent closure for diplomacy so that it then no more diplomacy and then just ahead of friday's g 20 summit trump tweets about terminating u.s. so-called protection of world oil supplies traversing the persian gulf there was of clearly done so much to protect the middle east so after the tweet drops in iran point man pops up on business channel c.n.n. b c to give jitters to crude futures markets about who pays for maritime security
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the g. 20 is coming up and so that's a good forum for i think leaders to talk about maritime security and freedom of navigation chad brown responded to all this by saying donald trump is 100 percent right the u.s. has no business in the persian gulf it will certainly be a trick for u.k. neo-con politicians to align themselves with this new policy and what else will world leaders have to talk about at the g. 20 in japan this weekend and how isolated will britain in the united states be joining me now via skype from tokyo is professor. japan's representative at the i.m.f. during the western economic crisis thanks so much jessica for coming on the show to tell me about this have a bit of history tell me about out of g. 20 began to replace g 8 after the shock of the $28.00 western economic crisis and the obvious austerity to pay off bank losses. not started in the year the spring of 2000. in. 6 months after the lima shark
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at the spring meeting of the i.m.f. g 8 meeting was scheduled in washington d.c. and i was there as of yet and we're presenting of what the japanese government. and those days actually obama obama administration they they're feeling that it will be a bit difficult situation whereby. for european countries if a russia is included it's 5 might that all united states for its fear or do you think management of either present market in the united states which caused the shock so that the united states. shifted. its rate on g 28 rather than g 8 and what does it feel like for you because you kind of seen it before i want to actually talk about nationalisation whether it's going to be on the agenda this weekend because you were part of the bank nationalization program
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in japan after the 9090 southeast asia greatest crisis did you just treat everyone like you'd seen it all before when. you started those so-called. global standard which we were preached by in western countries we mean include the asian countries including japan countries just i mean with threw away those i think a crisp or a week today they actually they actually preached us away and they just i think riskier big banks and big businesses using the i think taxpayers money you remember of course how well martir is back maybe he's going to be the g. 20 how he was attacked for not supporting i.m.f. orthodoxy and the kind of near liberalism arguably that still hangs around the european union today when we had. the thing asian that he can request is you to
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a certain dr martin who actually proposed to stop the free movement of but of a capital and he had to close down his country and thanks to that he's country i actually recovered very fast but he was heavily criticized by i.m.f. and also we're saying european countries but you really must shock started actually i'm a started to introduce that doctrine into other western european countries so it's an interesting i think history do you think this weekend there will be a greater understanding that democratic accountability of financial institutions is more important rather than neo liberal privatisation. i'm afraid it would take much much longer time for the for people to understand that because there is going to politics works not on the so-called democracy but mainly
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for example you need money for your campaign so i think big business is and always the big banks still have a big voice in the united states and also in europe but is japan in a peculiar situation right now. of course was in tehran when the united states was accusing iran of attacking a japanese tanker in the persian gulf when i worked as a budget examiner in the missile fire and as you know late 1980 s. and also in early 990 s. the same kind of the quizes study ocurred in that home straight at the time of the iraq war and as you know that there was a very hot internal debate what japan can do so i think now this is the time where and when the parents should go back over the president and again i think debate. internally what we should do but of course iran denies attacking the
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japanese tanker and trump's advisers on the record for wanting war with iran before they joined the administration will the g. 20 be in different rooms because china russia and india are of with the 1st to announce try laterals they clearly don't want any kind of war or conflict with iran or economic warfare even tuam and he he made it he made it big clear that he doesn't want any war and he actually i think. your audience actually approved prime minister. how to deal with mr trump so that was why. he decided to go to a thing or 2 or on. then trump tweeted why is the united states subsidizing the protection of the straits of hormuz given that japan relies much on those
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straits for oil imports. but actually it is not only japan but also many asian countries who i think we live up on the wires which go through that are the whole most artists grade and one thing which is very clear to me is internally this crisis would actually help japan to discuss more thing more positively on the issue of the resumption of the nuclear power plant in japan ok but what about the well of sanctions at g 20 because the united states is clearly using sanctions described by its victims as economic warfare as a big tool turkey saying it's going to get s. 400 missile defense system from russia china of course has been repeatedly threatened over the past 12 months what do you think g. 20 leaders are going to tell the united states the most difficult thing in india by
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their negotiations is to bring you or your you're the counterpart onto the i think the militants on table and i believe that i believe that trump as a very is very successful at the business that he knows how difficult it is so he has been throwing lots and lots of balls to many countries like china and russia. and. mexico and canada so we should not take. action too seriously. because i believe that he doesn't have every ennius with the expectation of the result of a. it was asian well just finally they used to call obviously the economies of southeast asia the geese economies following japan you'll remember that well the
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european union its average less than one percent g.d.p. growth since 2008 what do you think about lots of talk in europe spain italy particularly let alone portugal and others who may be looking to southeast asia and more specifically china now rather than to washington well i believe that since up in 2016 the world is in the turning point of history starting with the it because there's a lesson in philippines. the brics it and the victory of 12 followed in 2016 and in 2017 the same train continued with the it in general with that in the election in the united kingdom and also the victory of mccraw. and also only in new york in an election in germany and all of these clearly showed the defeat of so-called the establishment i think
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particularly on both sides of the atlantic. thank you. after the break as washington ratchets up the conflict from venezuela to iran and they pose human existence help humanity avoid catastrophic annihilation we speak to one of the queen's scientists astronomer royal greece of ludlow pioneer of multi-verse is black holes and galaxy formation and 80 is off to libya where the 2 remaining contenders for britain's premiership secret war conflict 100 years since the signing of the treaty of versailles all of them all coming up a bunch of going underground. good food descriptions sound up to tell using even for the owners so how to choose
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this pet food industry is telling us what to feed our pets really more based on what they want to sell us than was necessarily good for the pet turns out and pet food may not be associate people believe we have animals that have you know diabetes in arthritis they have auto immune disorders they've got allergies we are actually creating these problems and it's a huge of a demagogue problems all of them i believe can be linked to very simple problem of diet and some dog owners so heartbreaking stories about their pets less treats the larger corporations are not very interested in proving or disproving the value of their food because they're already making a $1000000000.00 on it and there's no reason to do that research. what politicians do. they put themselves on
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a lot. to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. for something i want to. have to do i have to be for the survival of the 43 of them or 10 people that live in bush the holes in the waters of our. first city. that are older birds or have to go a bit harder or defeated or assert about what are going. to protect every does that mean ok so. if you're sitting pretty good they're going to let or should it be some automatic to move looks. good at a minute to finish it oh my gosh good morning israel's national lead. god since we. don't hate.
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any. kind of system definition in. the news and. welcome back while arguable apologists for israeli violations of un resolutions look to trump's so called bahrain deal of the century we are 48 hours from 100 years since another deal of the century after the outbreak of the german revolution which ended world war one the imperialist treaty of versailles which led inexorably to world war 2 was a deal signed in france to carve up and bankrupt the workers of germany this is what u.k. labor leader jeremy corbin said about misplaced commemorations and the best
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memories about the civil war other than the schools with millions in the main on the east and the wheeling bases it was a fuel all of the big money given the leader of the british labor party is famously anti war so what about his future counterparts given britain's conservatives find themselves in a leadership battle here is one contender appearing to complain that corbin is not ready to join in any trump military action against mideast oil superpower iran do you think it would be pretty obvious who was responsible for this when we actually have video evidence that shows what the iranians have been doing but oh no for jeremy corbin it's all america's fault and this is the same man by the way who refused to condemn after the souls primo chalk attacked iran absolutely denies responsibility for the tanker attacks with jeremy hunt it is not just iran goldman is wrong about it's also britain's world war 2 l.a. russia mind you he is competing with someone who thinks last year's russian world
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cup is comparable to the 1936 olympics held by the treaty of it's size but the fisheries the nazis i think the comparison with 936 is is certainly right and i think it's an image in prospect rightly think of. a beating glorying in this. this is a sporting event given johnson is speaking about a russia that could destroy britain and that he supported tony blair's catastrophic war in iraq now might be a good time to ask about the prospects for humanity as the u.s.s. abraham lincoln sails near iran britain's astronomer royal lord rees astrophysicist colleague of the late jeremy corbyn suborder stephen hawking will today be addressing global threat at the farmers' festival in zurich other speakers include cosmonauts and astronauts as well as musicians like brian eno and queens brian may
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the astronomer royal joins me via skype from cambridge laundries welcome to going on the ground here 3 get a stomach festival in zurich and threat to land tell me about the talks title prospects for humanity based on the book you published earlier where my book covers many topics but in my talk i'm going to focus on the future prospects because the stormers special is a wonderful occasion which gets together the astronauts of the stormers etc and what i will say is that space now is something we use every day through sat nav communication monitoring weather forecasting etc but of course in a sense the glamour went out of its the cause the high points of manned space flight was what we're celebrating now 50 years ago the apollo moon landings and of course we have to ask is the going to be revival of space that will make it is braced will again and i think that we are going to expect that because
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robots are the advance so much the practical case and the need for sending humans is getting less. because machines can now do far more and i would imagine that we will have much cheaper ways of launching sings it to space we have robotic fabricators like to build huge structures in space maybe move a question of industry off the earth and having to sell energy collectors huge radio antennae and things like that in space but what about dual of human beings and i personally think that the human part of space exploration will become really something which is an adventure rather something practical and i think people will want to go to space we should cheer on those who want to go but i think they will be people who will go on cut price high risk ventures because i don't really imagine there's any major country is now going to invest in
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a publicly funded space exploration is in the americans they invested huge amounts to get men on the moon and they then invest and lost in the space shuttle and the shuttle is lost $135.00 times and it failed twice and each of those failures when the shuttle crashed was a big national trauma now a 2 percent failure rate is 2 in $100.00 says he launches is quite acceptable to test pilots in the venturers but the american public wanted something even safer and that's why i think it would be too expensive for the americans and probably for the russians to do a public to funded the space program which is safe enough you know some might be shocked because obviously our own colleagues stephen hawking was a great crowd of german korean in the book and presumably in the talk are advocating the privatization of the exploration of brave private companies as i am because i don't think any taxpayers' money should be spent on it because it's of no
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practical use it's an adventure it's a high risk project you mentioned stephen hawking and i have to say. i strongly disagree with late stephen hawking and with elon musk when they say that we should invade his mass emigration to mars i think that's a dangerous illusion because living on mars is far less comfortable living at the south pole will top of everest and dealing with climate change on earth is a dottle compared to terra forming mars so there's no planet be the organ risk averse people but on the other hand i think we should cheer on these pioneers but the reason they're important is this there's by that time. we will have huge advances in cyber technology and in genetic modification and we're going to regulate these technologies here on earth to potential unethical
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reasons but these guys out on mars their way through the regulations were over they've got a far greater incentive than us on earth to use these techniques because they're clearly ill adapted to mars whereas where well adapted to the earth's so it's those guys are models who will use all those techniques to modify themselves and eventually within a century or 2 they may be in effect a new species whether they'll be still flesh and blood or whether they let them be it organic electronic we don't know in fact in fairness to the late stephen hawking or even beat off so remind us that actually the reason why a taxpayer we could be justify the tax measure pay for it is because the public at large here on earth benefits so much from the side effects of basic knowledge and 3 thanks for asian we're not saying that we shouldn't pay for unmanned space flights i'm saying that because robots are getting more efficient and militarized it may
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drives a shit better i don't think we should spend public money on manned spaceflight but to say why i think it's exciting that issued happen i think that if we envision is the thought future many centuries ahead then these entities on mars will probably be you know tronic. rather than face and blood and if that happens then of course they're not ready in atmosphere at all they may prefer 0 g. they will go off into the blue yonder and if they're near immortal an interstellar voyage is no deterrent to them and so if we imagine the very far distant future then we can imagine that intelligent entities which are in a sense our remote progeny will spread maybe entirely through the galaxy and if this happens the trigger will have been these people on mars now of course we know
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we have a president in the united states who doubt the thousands of climate change doubts arguably scientific elf what would you favor some of these policymakers who are saying well the earth is passing through the door of meteor shower twice a year that's the risk not climate change and i would try and dissuade them of doubts not the consensus view among the experts and that climate change is something we need to address in my do the best way to address it is to accelerate research and development into all kinds of treat energy so clean energy become more efficient and becomes cheaper and countries like india where they now get energy there's no keystone is in there only burning wood and dung and need some sort of grid those countries will be able to leapfrog directly to clean energy and not depend on coal fired power stations you ventilated great deal of important to wealth distribution wealth redistribution something that surely will probably isn't
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supported by perhaps the meritocratic right. and you often do you talk about this in the context of a an issue for him out of his robots begin to replace an occupation that's right i mean it is clear that robots are going to replace certain jobs. not just luke. all are factory jobs but some are white collar jobs like a computer coding accountancy legal work etc and even some medicine and surgery is going to be a massive redistribution and i think it's very important that the companies that own or control the robots should be heavily taxed and that money should be used to set up dignified public service jobs in huge numbers where the human element is crucial and number one among those is care as for people number 2 is probably teaching assistants and things like that and so we want to use numbers it's
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deplorable how few people are employed in that sort of work in most countries and certainly doesn't choose i'm afraid our own country and we need far more than they should have more secure jobs and be more respected and if for instance those who are now working in mind numbing jobs like amazon warehouses all call centers could have a job as a carer then that we have more dignified for human being and as win win situation fashion changing economics cambridge is known for john maynard keynes you think enough of a flower for you to talk about will never come to grips with intel for policymakers with xterm ality is on the account 5 things for people understand whether it be climate impact or impact on foetal welfare the company think about those things well of course. companies may be to sort of self interested so we do need for
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regulation but since you mention keynes i mean he's famous for having said that number 4 today the average working week will be shifty in hours and we would have solved what he called the economic problem. as you would agree he's been too optimistic about that but i think we should bear in. signs that the economy is a means to an end that providing dignified and satisfying work and lives the human beings and just finally on and on the prospects for humanity as regards armageddon apart from climate catastrophe view from port the policy of jeremy corbyn on operating the trident nuclear base they're discussing nonproliferation in the un today what's your view of nuclear weapon vacay prepays 40 they threaten earth with destruction where the proliferation would. certainly threat knows and i think if we look back on the cold war era it's clear that we were lucky rather unwise to
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survive i mean if you listen to walk people i've met in the mara said in their retirement it's fairly clear that there were some close calls during the cold war and perhaps had we known what do the risk was at that time we'd have been less content to have peace guaranteed by this balance of terror and of course that threat is somewhat in abeyance because the number of nuclear weapons now is less that was during the cold war so i think the risk of a massive nuclear exchange the kind of might of devastated europe and north america is lower on the other hand the risk of a nuclear exchange this in some region is probably higher because there are 9 or 10 nuclear powers now and we've got to keep that number down but if you ask what worries me most and i worry far more about bio in cyber attacks because nuclear treaties can be monitored fairly where you can verify compliance
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because they require conspicuous special purpose silage is on the other hand the techniques that could lead to bio weapons or cyber attacks are of course harder to monitor and family law and the see united states says they launch one on iran just in about 3 days indeed them evelyn. yes and i'm sure the russians have also be doing similar things lord rees thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday on g 20 day 2 in a socket which will then keep in touch by social media fuels up day 103 years to the day britney sentenced its diplomat joe di rich republican roger casement to death for his part at least to rise it. is hard to take some from somebody if you know have some to replace him. we want to
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