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those advances and potentially the drone incident well i think they can be somehow relevant in terms of being suspicious because. iran and the united states both have announced that they are not after a military war in the region so but there are some other 3rd parties or even some elements in it within the united states and within the trumpet the ministration who aspire year to see a war between iran and the united states they want and that's why we have been seeing these things iran has been denouncing condemning these things while iranian leader was meeting the prime minister of japan one of those incidents happened in the sea of oman this doesn't make sense for iran to do such a thing at that timing exactly against the japanese tankers and i think in this situation where the iran is expected to react to the threats or pressure by the
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united states that will be much easier to finger point to have the finger pointed towards iran and i think there might be some 3rd parties involved in this issue there are some speculations on social media about the alleged involvement of people's mujahedeen of iran and their organization that is banned in iran but have portrayed in the united states there are also some allegations of their ties with saudi arabia but all at this point all those allegations are on the verified and they will remain and verified unless there is some neutral international investigation into the matter which has not been launched and i don't understand why because this is such a critical area for global maritime trade why do you think the international community remains so lackluster about these attacks 6 attacks already happening in the space of 2 months on the one hand they want to pressure iran because iran has started to redo. and if they you mean the united states or they the international
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community i would say that the 1st that the united states and its allies because they want europeans even they want to have pressure against iran in order to stop iran from reducing its nuclear commitments on the nuclear deal also you know they want to have some make some allegations against iran there is no evidence look what the united arab emirates official said recently they said there is no evidence but before any investigation the americans and some western countries as well as some players in the region to try to let's say make allegations against iran and there was a tape recording between the. official talking to his the whole if there's anybody still very stiff this tape is still on verify yeah but no one has rejected has been no denial i mean you cannot make the whole case on these another but more details
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yeah that is one of the indications this is something this so the arabia and the americans they have been always talking without doing any investigation they have been attacking iran and alleging that iran has done because from an american perspective iran is at fault everywhere and on every issue now this whole situation in iraq has a company here because this whole situation reminds me a little bit the build up to the expected strike against syria back in 2013 that president obama called off in the last minute but baghdad cass's valley was much more serious the goo to attack which both russia and iran believe was staged it involved multiple human casualties and very very gory graphic images thankfully we haven't seen any of that in the case of iran do you think we will you know back then i would say that they were for. flag operations because whenever the those
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armed forces or the terrorists where in a difficult situation those things happen in order to put pressure against the syrian government as well as those who are helping the syrian government to fight back against the terrorists but whether we will have such kind of false flag operations against iran that is also possible because america is they also devoted a budget for such kind of covered operations against iran this is something which was announced by american media. you know hearing those lies about iran is nothing new to my pompei oh when he was talking about his he was director of the cia he said that they told lies they cheated many times they might be telling those lies that they said in the past both this time about they can easily now president trump was very careful not to draw any rad lines but mike paris secretary of state whom you just mentioned essentially did it for him his side that if there is any attack
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involving death of an american citizen it would be considered a cause for retaliation against iran how does it go with the iranian leadership recent pledge to you respond even with greater force in case of any other in choosing across the border the downing of the drone was a warning to the united states in order not to repeat that kind of in tunisia into rain in borders space or integrity. so i think if such a thing happens again you ron. i think will respond again evan stronger because they cannot see than watch the americans coming to you in an airspace and doing everything without being in the middle in the reaction even risking a major confrontation which who definitely take the lives of many and many thousands of iranians that. i would say that the risk will be higher if you run
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does not respond because this will iran will send the signal to the americans that you can come will not react so they will come next time more and more a move will not react but if they react at the 1st point americans will be real think so this can have a high risk iran has learned during the presidency of trump or according to the approach of the americans that if it plays at the low level of risk it will lose but it needs to play at the higher level of the risk and that's why the nuclear essentially mirror trumps own tactics but as changes it may be trying for now at least is essentially playing on the side of the ukrainian leadership because he did not rush into war as some have act him into don't you think that there is something that the iranian leadership could do to solidify these kind of a fact. that he says that he wants to negotiate with iran but he
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left in the go sharing table after years of would say 12 years of negotiations which led to a nuclear deal. in vienna so on now he's talking about negotiations look what happened recently they imposed sanctions against a reign in commanders of the g.c. and they said that they will target iran and foreign minister zarif so if there is going if there is going to be any talks between iran and the united states the most likely life we're going to. iran and foreign minister zarif so by imposing sanctions against that if i think don't trump is imposing the sanctions against diplomacy and the negotiations so this shows contradiction as well as confusion in trumpet ministration i think well that's. perhaps not suppress surprising manifestation mr aslan we have to take a very short break now. that's me we'll be back in just
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a few moments stay tuned. christ it's better if it's i mean crisis and they sure. as a scale of natural disaster and got this right way. and they bring it down to this. here when japan. for the problem of substances which of the weather being so flash and governments and international organizations do not have enough time. i don't want to talk to
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a communist news agency forgive me we'll have to find someone to. go with the trying to say with this one stick. of the claim to. just like the jews . exactly when my father. did this i mean yes see him through the.
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they are the good guys moving to we have to be the bad guys that look them 2 up. i think i acknowledge the. fight falsely believe it's an indication of how important most movements all. sold out assaults would indication of where the left must move towards we are definitely winning it because we have the people they have people in power but we are in the muffler. little.
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lists lists lists lists. list. and very well might continue watching on since last. well the actual supplied by the muscle slimy iranian journalist and political analyst just before the break we started talking about. whether the uranium
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leadership could have a full more flexible approach one towards. president trump and perhaps some other towards more belligerent members of his administration and just a few weeks ago iran's supreme leader posted on his official twitter account that he does not consider the president of the united states as a person deserving to exchange messages with i have no response for him and i will not answer him is that a wise approach i mean you said that the americans are contradictory on the why that they want to have talks but surely iran wants to talk is it the way to talk to the american president well this is not the only the approach of the leader but many in wrong even those who remember by the presidential campaign of mr rouhani inside the country that many there are going for the negotiations with the
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united states in order to resolve the from the issues with the united states underneath their issue was the beginning point in order to resolve other issues maybe including the regional issues so they engage in negotiations that could last for years they had the nuclear deal but the new president inside the united states after taking office he withdrew from the nuclear talks the nuclear deal after some time so. you know iran sees. no guarantee if they engage in talks with this administration in the united states. that the other president or another person or even the same person bo you know there's something you know strange and different again so there is no guarantee for you really is to engage in so there's no guarantees for anyone i mean russia is in a pretty similar situation when it comes to compared with iran i mean it faces the same type of political pressures sanctions intelligence after future it's competing
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with the united states and certain geopolitical fronts and yet i think. that the russians have been taking a very different they're very critical of the american policy but president putin has never said it worth about president trump personally. foolish you know let me complete my answer by saying that you're wrong does not rule out the possibility of any negotiations with the united states iran has said if the united states returns to the nuclear deal and compensates its commitments under the nuclear deal and removes the sanctions that are supposed to be gone that the nuclear deal in that condition iran by the engage in talks with the americans are not ready for the absolutely and the americans say that they will be you know or you know more i'm sure you. know something everything they don't want to be doing so don't you think that perhaps iran and the united states. are behaving towards
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each other in pretty much the same. matter applying the tactic of maximum pressure asking for i'm realizing both things don't you think that in turn in certain terms you have very similar ok so who thought that you brought the you know america's vist through from the nuclear deal iran waited for over a year to see that the other parties and members of the nuclear deal to complain say that withdrawal what happened nothing. so now iran wants to gradually again in order to save the nuclear deal to reduce its nuclear commitments but again in this 2 months of period that the iran gave to the europeans to have done nothing so far so i would say that iran didn't search and explore for a guarantee before starting negotiations with the united states before the j c p a they clinched the deal but what happened americans with true so they have shown
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a record that makes iran to be cautious about them and iran says if you want to engage you have to complain say and you have to keep your commitments and you have to show that you want do you really want to engage in talks but this doesn't. appear from american side now they also introduced personal sanctions against the supreme leader of iran and i see him ayatollah khomeini wasn't planning to vacation at mar a lago or some other american destination say in practical terms i think those sanctions don't amount to much but symbolically of course i think the iranians cannot leave them unnoticed how much of a hinderance is that for any prospect of future talks so this goes against the backdrop of american claim to engage in talks with iran so if you want to talk to iran why are you imposing these sanctions and. then it's interesting that they're
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imposing the sanctions against the the people like foreign minister zarif who might be the person who represent thinking iran in the negotiations or the office of the leader who is the major main figure in the country and can the saw the different issues in coordination with the parliament is a very pretty orderly negotiation i think that indicates that they are not really for the negotiations we have been seeing from tampered with. station officials have been writing themselves directly in the past that. with dressing the negotiation issue they want to leave the possibility of the rhetoric leave open this was stated by the john bolton that in the case that they're not really for negotiation now speaking about broader international formerly the european still pleaded with the iranians to keep up biding by the 2015 agreement even though they started kind of
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threatening iran with certain consequences at a time when they themselves are being threatened with consequences by the americans if they're abide by the deal which of these 2 sides of threats do you think is more potent. i would say that the europeans want to have the nuclear deal in place but they do not want to pay the cost and i think this indicates that saving the nuclear deal is not saving iran but will be saving the credibility as well as the let's say identity of the european side as well because the nuclear deal i think show that if the europeans do not have the americas on their own side. they will not be able to do anything i think this is not a danger against iran this is a good sample to indicate that the same thing can happen to others you know we have iran the phobia in the international arena the same thing happens in relations with
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russia look what the democrats and republicans are doing in relation to russia and now a days we are seeing that the the same thing happening to china american media as well as some journals they were writing about something like triple containment containing china russia as well as iran those who want to have independent policies and those who want to be resisting against the will of the united states who wants to impose its policies to all the parts of the world now last week iran said that it was on course to boast its stockpile of low and reached uranium beyond the limits prescribed by. next month make go even further and raise the level of your own human race meant above 3.67 percent and from a proliferation point of yes far as i understand there is no big deal about it i
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mean every signatory to the nonproliferation treaty has that right it's not an automatic have to nuclear bomb and yet their way this issue has been covered in the media. raises a lot of alarm especially in the west and i sometimes wonder if iran is partially to blame for it because on the one hand it is its own inalienable right to pursue peaceful nuclear energy but on the other hand it uses nuclear issues so much in political and geopolitical negotiations that it's all right seems to be compromised by now you know that's the story which you ron has been saying for years and decades those even possessing the clear warheads. they have been. concerned about iran's civil nuclear in their g these measures which iran has taking have been voluntary on their a nuclear deal called the j c p. if one side and one party doesn't keep to the
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commitments and according to the paragraph 26 of paragraph 36 of the same deal the other side can reduce and abandon fully or even partially it's come at them and iran is going in accordance with that the same thing but the other parties who have not kept to their commitments do not want to see their own share and their own side but to have focused on the rain inside and that's why they are not saying and telling all the truth and this is an issue which you ron has all along said that it wants to go after a non military nuclear program in order to meet its civil needs but the others have . nuclear weapons and interestingly they are worried about nonces nonmilitary usage of that it's not about justice for me it's more about the way the narrative
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has been shaped because 15 years ago when iran made some of its 1st concessions. on enriching uranium and introduced some. confidence building measures those measures were perceived as temporary now these the conversation is almost like iran has to give up its nuclear right all together i mean this is essentially what the trumpet ministration is asking for the total ban on any new clear enrichment any raymond richmond in iran. why do you think this narrative has changed so much and not in the run favor. i think americas think they might. achieve this but this was the story doing the george bush the where are going for 0 in richmond for iran but in the would see the last days of the bush administration in office they understood that they can know this and they wanted to
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shift toward letting iran to have some enrichment and that's why the same thing happened during the obama administration because before those pressures and sanctions against iran iran had a couple of hundreds of centrifuges but in the end it after the sanctions on the pressure it ended up to have thousands of centrifuges and the same story can have happened and be repeated as this i mean we have been seeing these stories in the past years iran if it's 3 european countries they had then they dream and in 2003 but iran that its own party the other part on the pressure of the americans didn't fulfill its commitments and they can we are seeing the americans are repeating the same story well this might happen in future evolve. yes it surely can and i think we're already seeing that scenario unfolding again iran pursuing
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its nuclear program that american skipping some of the strangest sanctions ever at the iranian population i heard you say is suffering it's having its a fact on society i don't know how i would ask that question in relation to my country but do you think it's worth it do you think it's worth you know to fight sore hard for this right to enrich uranium and put so many millions of your citizens and so many generations through so much hardship i think i will know how to dress but you know yes the sanctions bring economic hardship it can. bringing lots of problems to the daily lives of people and contrary to what they say exactly sanctions are targeting ordinary people in every country including in the wrong so but i think the main target of the americans is to change the calculus the behavior or the regime in iran but what is happening in practice you're wrong
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behavior in the region is not changing iran wants to resume the activities the calculus into iran is not changing so iran thinks that maybe its resistance as it happened in the past might change mike what the other way round and change the calculus in washington but it's a vicious circle that harming everybody anyway mr sonner we have to leave it here but i greatly appreciate you coming over and sharing your perspective but that's thank you very much thank you encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and hope to syria again same place same time here on the world's apart.
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a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say by daddy as you're walking out of this it's just it doesn't get easier. donald trump becomes the fast u.s. president and to north korea meeting kim jong un and the demilitarized so but sanctions against pyongyang remain in place i'm looking forward to taking them off i don't like sanctions being under scrutiny i'm looking forward but the sanctions remain useful. and in the stories that shape the week. to overcome that differences at the g 20 summit in japan with all eyes on a meeting between the need to open new wealth. the meeting was good and businesslike we discussed a whole range of issues that are of interest to russia and united states and we had a discussion we had a great actually we had a great discussion and president put by the.

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