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a 2nd front has opened up the u.s. europe trade is heading into a storm iran is again in the center of the debate also the circus has come to town and it's called the democratic primary. cross lacking some real news i'm joined by my guests here in moscow dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor it in a smi internet media project and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor of politics 1st magazine our gentleman cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let's go to markets 1st in london the the resumption of u.s. china trade talks is taking a lot of headlines as it should it's a very important issue on the back of the g. 20 but we have this special purpose vehicle being established is established now in europe to bypass the american swiss system for the europeans to trade with iran i wonder when the donald is back in washington how he's going to respond to that
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because i think we all know how he will go ahead marcus the introduction of the instead payment system by the europeans as a way of trying to circumvent the american restrictions on countries wanting to trade with iran and the in 6 payments system is not only a goodwill gesture by the european institute on it is also every year against trying to keep it on in the j.c. you know a do you and it is also a way of the europeans let's have a name access to the iranian well kits which after all is an important market sphere in particular for countries like germany and france but it's paid for the insteps payment system to be sustainable and effective it must apply so oil purchase ends because don't trump start sentients on a wrong which are all completely the most dangerous that's a. america has had placed iran over the last 40 years or go in for wrongs jocular
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and that jocular is iran's ability states to export oil if the european payment system does not apply to the purchases by other countries also it rainin oil then i do strongly suspect that it ran or will eventually lead the j.c. you know a and also the iranian economy will be in serious trouble because trump does wants us fix it the iranian economy exactly that you go for the juggler which is it wrong or markets him before i go to game here how much is this also in a sense of the european union claiming some form of economic sovereignty i mean it wasn't the last time we had a country dictating other countries trade policy was the soviet union with its eastern european satellites i mean this is very very authoritarian dictating to countries who they can trade with i mean this also is a sovereignty issue yes. i agree if you look at the european union wast it
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is a strategic ally it to america it is also an economic zone in full and i applaud the way that lynn and paris are like a term in exchange for trading with it on the way that the germans the french also hold the j.c. but the american representative on iran has recently said you have a. choice it or traits of america what straits of iran and piece of the problem is this is a rerun you know market even though it's lucrative of course it can't compete with the american market and that's where my concern is that when push comes to shove our businesses in germany and france it could very rote ditch iran for the american dominance the intimidation here you know demon one of the one of the rings i wanted to do this topic is because in a much broader way the united states is you. in the dollar in the swiss system it's
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been weaponized ok. this is remarkable that the u.s. is going to leverage the swiss system against its allies against its adversaries here i mean when i see here this is devaluing the currency the global currency the u.s. dollar and it's the us it's doing itself it's very self destructive in it's self inflicted go ahead well i mean look at the statistics in 2013 less than 7 percent of the trade between china and russia was a new one because there were there was a lot of talk about the need to distance ourselves from the dollar but there was no immediate need in 2013 so things were going slowly but already in 2017 already it was 18 percent of the trade that was in other currencies other than dos so the movement is in that direction and it's interesting how the american
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liberal press is reacting to that you know fareed sick or right in the washington post writes that you know this idea of instax is it's basically one inside the can really in the core mind and of the court at least some humor for it's a career well that kerry in the coal mine has been there for many years now because it was not just drum corps a right it's not just drawn administrations abuse of power it's also an abundance administration's abuse of power it's bill clinton's of use of power so things were piling up and we all remember how somehow the war against iraq started after saddam hussein switched their payments for the iraqi oil to europe and we can see the same case we have then we have now with libya as well it's not only europe india you know wall street giorno is right in that it has evidence that india is buying oil from iran. you know bypass in the american banks bypass in the federal
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reserve system which has this terrible system of correspondent banks you not only the correspondent banks can transact so in days doing that turkey of all the qantas after the turkish lira fell dramatically in 2018 you know. is right in that. regard has been blaming for in foreign conspiracies for for the you know what is it is foreigners are doing it openly as if they're. you know all a lot of alternative media and some of the mainstream media in the united states directly linked that the fall of leader 2 of the actions of the night well there is there is absolutely evidence that and evidence which to directly you know that we go back to markets in london i mean that this is a very interesting trend and i think future historians will look back at this and how the u.s. destroyed its own currency position in the world because irrespective of politics it was
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a system where you could get business done now if it's being politicized like this that the trend is why get involved because you get you could get you don't have to be necessarily afraid of the pentagon you have to be afraid of the treasury department now it's this using it as a political weapon is dangerous and self destructive and people are going to start using other mechanisms as we see started in europe go ahead marcus well i think it's plausible to argue that the dollar is even more. so countries around than the american military and i say in my opinion that is absolutely the case but i still do not see any evidence and its current evidence to suggest that the dollar is going to collapse that it is going to be asked why not a currency in the world if we take china for example china is also has also been accused the americans or circumvent the. american restrictions on purchase in oil
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from iraq but it wouldn't take that much money americans to deter china for continuing supply iranian oil why because china's economic progress over the last 30 years begin in revenge which has been miraculous has absolutely based on china's trade and investment relationship with america and the chinese will not do anything to jeopardize that and if that means they stop whining oil from iran then beijing will do that's what's crucial to the chinese economy is america. i mean but there's this sense of process here i agree with marcus papadopoulos i mean they're the dollar isn't going to collapse overnight but it's starting a trend and starting a trend where if you want to avoid political problems maybe diversify your portfolio and not rely so much on the dollar and of course with the political and
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geopolitical events going on in the middle east i mean the petro dollar is at stake here nothing short of that go ahead well right now 60 percent of the savings you know around the world are done in dollars only 20 percent of the savings are done in europe but that is the trend more and more savings are done in your office in japanese yen in chinese you on people are diversifying their investments in order to shield themselves from you know basically a from confiscation you know exactly the reason why russia is talking so much about switching to. our own currency it's between us and china between us and iran and other countries the reason is you know 12 biggest russian companies were under sanctions last year and when it was announced in april 2000 even it was then that the russian central bank started watering that actually our essence in. the united
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states would have frozen and this is written in the mainstream press in the west it's not a secret you know it's nature our minister of finance you want to suggest that company us that trade with their foreign partners in their current system or in rubles that they should get tax breaks so it's becoming profitable more to trade in go here we go back to what i want to switch gears real quick markets i mean there's an iconic picture of floating around where putin needs to resume it looked like they were in divorce court it was really amazing pig's ear he was not happy but he has a lot of reasons not to be happy i guess that that picture is putin's going away present to or go ahead one minute you. well paid surveys of my reading some having been forced out of power by foreign policy indeed by our own cabinets in a similar way we could all get that satchel yes. so i think of lots of reasons why it's a reason might look distorted not so it was missed the points and indeed she actually
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looks distraught paul and when i'm up tolerance and i see from the press gallery she does look a broken person but we also have to remember grits and i'm not sure i've never liked each other and they never will like each other deal with 10 seconds go well i think that she wanted to be frosty and she was frosty she was the snow queen but i'm not sure that is what the point is that had a lasting image if she was still world to see if she stays in history like that she will be for always and you know that's exactly i think that was in the rose city of the worst prime minister in modern history ok out gentlemen i'm going to jump in here thanks marcus after a short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stayed with r.t. .
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backscatter financial survival god stacy let's learn about fill out let's say i'm not sure i get here on grease on bank of the fight. thank you for taking. on the story that's right well that's slavery. it's seemed wrong. to me to get to shape out just to come get educated and engage with equals betrayal.
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when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. as we speak large organized caravans are on the march to the united states. have a new way and a player coming in for carrying. no schools no malls watering down. this is a virtual invasion of our country or so. we see. that i'm at the end i thought of what i meant to this dad are foul and you know that's not going to warm up the feeling you know it's going to get. a nice powerful. if you can do is you know we're going to see the.
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little girls you know to see the show for a player for true. welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered i'm peter lloyd were discussing some real news. ok and now we're going to go to athens and we're joined by alex pursue forro he is the director and writer for the duran dot com alex i'm going to go to you 1st here . i watched i have to confess not all of the 2 democratic debates ok i wasn't willing to give so much time away to that show and i was trying to discuss a catchy phrase for them and i would call them maybe like the free democrats
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because everything is free everything is free except for american citizens so it looks like they were really can't go on the road campaigning canvassing for illegals to get president to participate in it because the. that's all they seem to talk about free healthcare free education. no longer criminalizing breaking that of the law by crossing the border illegally i mean this was really a circus wasn't go ahead alex. peter was it was a cloud show and you're exactly right i think i think the 2nd night of the debates you could watch it was watchable the 1st night i mean was just i think trump something up best with one word it was boring it's very very boring because i mean they all said the same thing. that they all had the same script it was awful it was impossible to watch the whole thing impossible and i don't even know those people you know the actual lot of torrijos actually got through the event but peter you're right the democrats are moving so far left i think democrats people who are
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going to be voting in the primary democrats in middle america in the heartland they don't understand what party this is anymore and the democrats seem to be addressing a voter base that either one doesn't even live in the united states and can't vote or number 2 basically lives in hollywood or somewhere in park avenue or on wall street that's it i mean their whole all the policies that they were discussing peter was all about open borders coupled with hair health care endless war aren't man bad russia did it 50 percent tax rate infanticide i mean these are positions that even even the most progressive america kid is unrecognizable for the democrat party al and alex and all of the issues you just mentioned not even 50 percent of the of the population agrees with those positions it's not even close to 50 percent
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and they're running with it. ok alex and i have poured enormous cold water on these 2 primaries primary debates. when you probably know which 7 minutes one person spoke in the 1st debate that was made sense it is the congresswoman from home why exactly. said this very simple thing nor war with iran. that kind of that was the wisest thing that they heard from that show in which she pushed back against the establishment position on endless war. the openness that the president can have to declare to wage war i mean they really really. that one issue they were all exactly on the same page and it took one brave person to say it was a failure it doesn't work we have to stop it well. charles also pretty good when she said well tired of being 10 minutes away from a war one tweet away from
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a war with iraq iran and short his demand this situation when trump actually said that i just asked our generals home many people are going to die they sent 150 and they cancelled the strike 10 minutes before we went ahead well if indeed iran had been the terrorist state if indeed there. billeted to start terrorist actions in the united states in response right then trump would not be asking how many people are going to die in the run he would ask them how many people are going to die here right so when they say that we have firm evidence iran is involved in terrorist activities they're lying because he never even mentioned you know i don't even i don't know maybe they're lying ok that's possible but they're just plain ignorant and if they are there is no interest in this all is going to go back to athens on this issue because i mean this is something that's
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very close to our heart all 3 of us here i mean we were watching the democratic party essentially become the war party and how dangerous that is. when you have the american public that is so poorly informed on these issues all of these candidates with one exception is grossly uninformed and not even interested because endless war is become part of the political fabric and the and the deep state the arms manufacturers the media are all in on it here and we had as one brave person stand up they've been trying to smear her but that 7 minutes is the only thing memorable enough purse to bait the 2nd debate was a complete loss out. yeah i think the main point of both debates peter is that no one looked presidential except for tall c. cowbird and you know you're right they only gave her 7 minutes i mean they didn't give her any time to actually you know introduce herself to america andrew yang had his mike cut off and now there's rumors floating around that n.b.c.
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did it deliberately they didn't want andrew young to get his policy across to the american people so n.b.c. did a very very poor job during these debates for towsley gabbert she was the most searched person after the after the debate that no one is really reporting that no one is talking about her peter the trump meat to fire bolt in tosi gabbert needs to step in that would be a killer move and for 2020 if you know it but you still that idea from whom because as i say you are pat buchanan right that's exactly right and that would be an awesome awesome outcome and trump would win 2028 without a doubt if he did that it's go back to the debates alex i mean i thought the moderators were supremely awful i mean this was the most the ultimate softball debate that i think i've ever seen in my lifetime no hard questions at all i mean i
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said they're in cahoots here they want to maintain this mano political culture this mano political conversation. here they're asking questions where they had the candidates actually raise their hand yes. listen it was like like you were in school or something you did it to you one was really hands on top of it and we could not talk a little bit about joe biden joe biden would look around to see who was voting if he'd be would put his hand out i mean there is there is conviction for you go a demon. in russia there was some criticism of this debate brain matter only because it looks like no one actually took into account the past or there of the candidates and all of that or the moderators i mean rachel maddow after 2 years all of these tweets hanta for. you know their collusion between trump and russians now she's asking questions and no wonder one of the candidates named that. is telling
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her that basically. drawn plays been unable to stand up to vladimir putin who at that invaded our democracy in 2016 and was invited to do so again by trump well you know trump said don't meddle in our elections with rory and you know he he smiled and all of the american media concentrated on that smile with this focus momentum beaches she had worked out in spanish i mean. because there's no knowledge of international parent to stand there and of all rule statement you know trump has embrace dictators at the expense of grey do more christmas with great democracy is probably. right on exactly all of these. and people in russia are asking ok can you just forget can you just forget that maddow has been saying it all of these 2 years m.s.n. b.c. is a ratings went down because of because of these you know this this whole
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. issue of me it was a hoax about. couldn't help of the same thing with the russians are asking or gay she's saying nice what's now but she went to that war which was profoundly unjust you know at the very wast moment when 1596 when the. people are looking at both of those debate stages was only one person that had any kind of dignity you know alexander chris for his absolutely right she was presidential alex i mean i have to think trumps flight back to the united states is going to have a huge bucket of popcorn i mean. where is the gravitas on the democrat exaggerated nothing there and on top of it bernie is looking more moderate i mean think of 2016 he was on the edge now he's in the middle i think middle america
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is that it's going to be they're not going to recognize this this kind of politics and it's a politics that begets them the democrats have learned nothing from 2016 the heartland continues to be dismissed as deplorable zz and they want to replace the population so they get the vote they want it's like the e.u. one vote fails you keep going over and over again till you get the result you want go ahead yeah i think bernie was the big loser out of out of this and joe joe and joe and i'll get to joe biden as well bernie was a big loser because he has a front runner and he just looked angry and his policies are just not radical at all they're not radical enough actually and he came out just looking really really poor the optics are really bad but i didn't actually cut himself off as he was speaking. but never seen anything like it it was unpressed could you imagine biden going up it gets trump i mean there is no chance there is no chance you have bedo
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and you have cory booker speaking in spanish peter and they don't have any translations but what about the people that are watching the debate and we're trying to understand what these 2 guys were so. n.b.c. didn't have anyone translating no one i mean it can you imagine trump taking the the abuse that howard was giving to biden q. magine a debate where trump is actually sitting there taking that no chance when it's a no chance that these people can go up against trump trump is going to eat them a life or get out but we'll be talking about this a lot in the future but it was camilla harris interestingly enough she's the one that's going to play the race card she started playing the race card 40 seconds alex go ahead and it was staged peter the whole thing was staged she talked about an issue that no one has talked about for in 20 years she had a photo article here this girl 40 years 40 years of a little girl you know ready to go on twitter right away after this whole thing you know went down the whole thing was staged and it wasn't it wasn't fair for biden
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but biden did not look presidential because he just took it he didn't have a response for it he looked weak he looked confused trump is not going to be that easy to deal with not at all. and 2nd well it's interesting that. accused all embracing dictators but they all forgot that joe biden when he was only in your great help in the regime change there he shook hands with all of you will who happens to be the follow all of the national socialist baggio of ukraine ok thank you now if you want to be continued many thanks to my guest here in moscow athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at you see you next time and remember. the great.
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i i don't want to talk to a communist news agency forgive me we'll have to find someone to. lower the trying to stay with this one stick. of the plane to the future just like the jews go through the exactly when my father. died. so in media on this day week you saw me live there i mean yes seeing through that where.
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they are the good guys moving. we have to be the best guys 2. i think i think now is the time to come to this fight. it's an indication of how unfortunate must be for itself so that's also an indication of where the left must move towards we are definitely winning it because we have the people they have people in power but we aren't them us. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or
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rejected. so when you want to be president. or somehow want to. have to go right to the press that's what i'm up for 3 in the morning can't be good . i'm interested always in the waters in the house. first sip. crisis meant if it's i'm in crisis and they share. it's as a scale of natural disaster and got this right. this may bring to this. in the news here when japan. for the problem of you say a group of substances which of the other being so for us governments and international organizations do not have enough time to do that.
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donald trump says it was a great honor meeting kim jong un face to face in north korea is accused of back home of squandering american influence. also this hour syrian state media accuse israel of conducting a strike as a 4 people killed and 21 injured. plus in germany 3 men are charged in connection with the sexual abuse of more than 40 children with 2 pleading guilty a lawyer for one of the victims tells us the authorities failed the children. if you simply unacceptable for a department to react in this manner and then tried to cover up the sort of negligence.

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